(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[0.50]TM[1200]OT[5x60 byo-yomi] PW[Go9x9]PB[agui]WR[4k]BR[5k]DT[2004-10-14]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[Go9x9 [4k\]: hi agui [5k\]: Hello dkiller [8k?\]: yes Kikumaru [12k\]: yah playgo [3k\]: yes ericlavine [5k?\]: yes smudge [7k?\]: yes Wagner [1k\]: yes adulescens [?\]: yes ndkrempel [9k\]: hi xbubu [18k\]: yup Hu [8k\]: Hello rhubarb [10k\]: yes Th4n4t0s [7k\]: yes liangsanbo [3k\]: yes Kikumaru [12k\]: little softer ^^;; dkiller [8k?\]: please to hear you Hu [8k\]: No audio now. ericlavine [5k?\]: go9x9 is a computer? ]RE[W+Resign] ;B[qd]CR[qd]BL[1480.614]C[ndkrempel [9k\]: no Harleqin [4k\]: i don't think so ] ;W[dp]CR[dp]WL[1496.437] ;B[pq]CR[pq]BL[1474.062]C[Kikumaru [12k\]: agui MM [23k?\]: hello ] ;W[dd]CR[dd]WL[1493.589]C[DangoMouse [2k\]: i think he loaded another demo Guo ] ;B[fc]CR[fc]BL[1467.626] ;W[hc]CR[hc]WL[1481.724] ;B[oc]CR[oc]BL[1462.597]C[Kikumaru [12k\]: aw well =P ] ;W[po]CR[po]WL[1477.659]C[ericlavine [5k?\]: seems good, extension plus pincer ] (;B[qk]CR[qk]BL[1444.31]C[GodRaisty [15k\]: yes Kikumaru [12k\]: yup TheCooler [9k\]: s Harleqin [4k\]: yes adulescens [?\]: yes velobici [9k\]: yes ericlavine [5k?\]: yes MM [23k?\]: yes Morphi [6k\]: yes whisla [1k\]: yes bananarok [20k?\]: yep xbubu [18k\]: yep borsuk [13k\]: yes Berti [13k\]: yes playgo [3k\]: yes Stardust [?\]: yes liangsanbo [3k\]: yes dkiller [8k?\]: yes galopin [13k\]: yes, very well Pang33rd [?\]: yes tiuri0 [11k\]: yes Bardock [5k\]: yes Morphi [6k\]: its ok playgo [3k\]: ok dkiller [8k?\]: perfect Kikumaru [12k\]: it's perfect Harleqin [4k\]: it is ok MM [23k?\]: fine xbubu [18k\]: ok Pang33rd [?\]: perfect galopin [13k\]: it's perfect Berti [13k\]: ok whisla [1k\]: ok GodRaisty [15k\]: it's good Stardust [?\]: perfect TheCooler [9k\]: perfect bananarok [20k?\]: ok :-) agui [5k\]: yes I hear you velobici [9k\]: tenuki after white h17 is ok??? Mukoji [23k?\]: perfect SoulDevil [4k?\]: :D agui [5k\]: thanks MM [23k?\]: thank you boubou [4k\]: bad TheCooler [9k\]: ok SoulDevil [4k?\]: too far galopin [13k\]: to far TonyTiger [7k\]: soso playgo [3k\]: looks interesting MM [23k?\]: soso velobici [9k\]: need to help f17 borsuk [13k\]: bad move galopin [13k\]: q10 better Bardock [5k\]: soso DangoMouse [2k\]: not severe? Harleqin [4k\]: it's ok, extension with pincer boubou [4k\]: too midlle srjh [1k\]: how about r5 ? MM [23k?\]: white can play R13? playgo [3k\]: w cant make base yet velobici [9k\]: attack closely, this is too far, not attack, so so move dkiller [8k?\]: ok agui [5k\]: ok ] ;W[oq]CR[oq]WL[1444.734]C[ericlavine [5k?\]: so what is good move here? ] ;B[or]CR[or]BL[1424.725] ;W[op]CR[op]WL[1439.926] ;B[nr]CR[nr]BL[1405.785] ;W[qq]CR[qq]WL[1391.619]C[velobici [9k\]: p2 very good ] (;B[qr]CR[qr]BL[1354.166] ;W[pp]CR[pp]WL[1388.087] ;B[pr]CR[pr]BL[1351.338]C[schimo [1d?\]: b is too low ] (;W[mp]CR[mp]WL[1373.795]C[velobici [9k\]: gote for black Harleqin [4k\]: too short velobici [9k\]: due to r2 move ] ;B[lq]BL[1334.831]TR[mp][lq]C[playgo [3k\]: lol dkiller [8k?\]: yes agui [5k\]: yes Hu [8k\]: good Stardust [?\]: yep Morphi [6k\]: yes GodRaisty [15k\]: yeah DrGoPlayer [5k\]: b walks ahead here velobici [9k\]: now white has fallen behind ] (;W[ko]CR[ko]WL[1215.527]C[MM [23k?\]: heh flush [2d\]: darn ivoSF [5k\]: 20 to 15k ^^ ] (;B[jq]CR[jq]BL[1319.376]C[Naruchan [15k?\]: 15k to 10k ^^ MM [23k?\]: shh^ MM [23k?\]: =p ericlavine [5k?\]: would be nice to be suddenly 1dan Hu [8k\]: K4? malte [-\]: K4 moodindigo [15k?\]: too low Morphi [6k\]: k4 flush [2d\]: stay ahead ericlavine [5k?\]: k4 DrGoPlayer [5k\]: good for b ] (;W[dj]CR[dj]WL[1205.86]C[MM [23k?\]: territory. agui [5k\]: ok ] ;B[cf]CR[cf]BL[1311.123]C[velobici [9k\]: direction of play issue: white moyo forming on the left side, so black must destrpy the left side if possible ] (;W[df]CR[df]WL[1195.287]C[vince [5k\]: good for b ericlavine [5k?\]: how about white c15? Bardock [5k\]: yes agui [5k\]: yes DrGoPlayer [5k\]: d10 aims for moyo ] (;B[cc]CR[cc]BL[1237.727]C[jotarokung [2d\]: keep sente ] ;W[ce]CR[ce]WL[1182.656]C[playgo [3k\]: good for w , more prospects ] ;B[dc]CR[dc]BL[1234.441] ;W[cg]CR[cg]WL[1180.17]C[malte [-\]: good for white i think flush [2d\]: b Bardock [5k\]: white tiuri0 [11k\]: b flush [2d\]: good for b SoulDevil [4k?\]: black malte [-\]: oh :) Berti [13k\]: w boubou [4k\]: a bit better for black no? borsuk [13k\]: b ericlavine [5k?\]: white concentrated liangsanbo [3k\]: B velobici [9k\]: ?? a what ?? borsuk [13k\]: good for black ] (;B[fq]CR[fq]BL[1179.296]TR[gr][hr][ir][gs][hs][is]C[velobici [9k\]: wrong direction ericlavine [5k?\]: i can't even find such a ladder :( ivoSF [5k\]: to reduce from below is j5 best? flush [2d\]: doesnt stop the ladder, b can kill w stone but w doesnt want to make bad shape astern [?\]: k3 is strong? Naruchan [15k?\]: but i love playing randomly ^^ velobici [9k\]: bottom is small Hu [8k\]: Lets W make moyo boubou [4k\]: k3 low? timewarp [7k\]: erd row h0029478 [7k\]: corner become solid playgo [3k\]: b already safe here amigo [12k\]: forcing w mojo timewarp [7k\]: 3erd row dkiller [8k?\]: bottom is small GodRaisty [15k\]: lets white get cebtre velobici [9k\]: moyo to destroy is on the left boubou [4k\]: no further potential timewarp [7k\]: better from the other side jantiff [4k\]: helping white's moyo, black is low ericlavine [5k?\]: black encouraging white to develop moyo GodRaisty [15k\]: centre* velobici [9k\]: black c4 dkiller [8k?\]: :-) flush [2d\]: q12 Kikumaru [12k\]: white can gain a lot more Kikumaru [12k\]: =P ] (;W[eq]CR[eq]WL[1176.628]C[agui [5k\]: yes ] ;B[fp]CR[fp]BL[1174.428] ;W[cn]CR[cn]WL[1175.831]C[Marlix [10k\]: now white helps black ] ;B[jc]CR[jc]BL[1121.899]C[DrGoPlayer [5k\]: e3 doesnt hold corner ] ;W[rd]CR[rd]WL[1164.154]C[DrGoPlayer [5k\]: helps b Looser [28k?\]: no ericlavine [5k?\]: no jantiff [4k\]: a probe borsuk [13k\]: no Rud0lf [1k\]: probe? boubou [4k\]: test black? schimo [1d?\]: probe tiuri0 [11k\]: no ;P HarSig [?\]: no jantiff [4k\]: asking move Haikane [18k\]: no jenofonte [?\]: no playgo [3k\]: very complex Bardock [5k\]: no Berti [13k\]: no pyro [7k\]: sabaki manouvre dkiller [8k?\]: little about it ndkrempel [9k\]: R15, R17, S17, S15 velobici [9k\]: asking move? take corner or take side? h0029478 [7k\]: eat up R9? Naruchan [15k?\]: no adulescens [?\]: asking flogo [2k\]: corner or influence HellBoy1 [9k\]: make sabiki Naruchan [15k?\]: oo flush [2d\]: Idea to see if black wants moyo or territory ] (;B[qe]CR[qe]BL[1095.609]TR[hc]C[moodindigo [15k?\]: i've seen it before, but looks complicated... DrGoPlayer [5k\]: h17 weak ] (;W[re]CR[re]WL[1153.401]C[Looser [28k?\]: yea Kikumaru [12k\]: that's why you try to save those ones ADM [10k?\]: thankyou for your patience ] ;B[rc]CR[rc]BL[1084.265] ;W[qf]CR[qf]WL[1151.197] (;B[qg]CR[qg]BL[1071.878]C[moodindigo [15k?\]: ok dkiller [8k?\]: Q14 is better than S14 ? Restore [9k\]: do not touch what you are attacking ] (;W[rf]CR[rf]WL[1141.026]C[DrGoPlayer [5k\]: walk out moodindigo [15k?\]: mm velobici [9k\]: bit error for black to play r13 agui [5k\]: yes ] (;B[rg]CR[rg]BL[1060.765] ;W[pg]CR[pg]WL[1136.37] ;B[ph]CR[ph]BL[1037.423] ;W[pe]CR[pe]WL[1129.567] ;B[og]CR[og]BL[1022.026] ;W[qc]CR[qc]WL[1124.555] ;B[pd]CR[pd]BL[1019.942] ;W[pc]CR[pc]WL[1122.607] ;B[od]CR[od]BL[1016.164] ;W[rb]CR[rb]WL[1121.696] ;B[pb]CR[pb]BL[997.64] ;W[qb]CR[qb]WL[1120.046] ;B[pf]CR[pf]BL[992.171] ;W[he]CR[he]WL[1113.462] ;B[je]CR[je]BL[988.708] ;W[dm]CR[dm]WL[1094.767] ;B[rp]CR[rp]BL[954.241] ;W[ro]CR[ro]WL[1080.995] ;B[qp]CR[qp]BL[946.307] ;W[qo]CR[qo]WL[1077.369] ;B[rq]CR[rq]BL[944.604] ;W[pl]CR[pl]WL[1075.126] ;B[ql]CR[ql]BL[942.038] ;W[pk]CR[pk]WL[1073.576] ;B[pj]CR[pj]BL[862.812] ;W[nk]CR[nk]WL[1070.1] ;B[bd]CR[bd]BL[827.812] ;W[ib]CR[ib]WL[1065.682] ;B[be]CR[be]BL[800.335] ;W[bf]CR[bf]WL[1061.546] ;B[gb]CR[gb]BL[786.861] ;W[jb]CR[jb]WL[1056.073] ;B[ic]CR[ic]BL[732.054] ;W[hb]CR[hb]WL[1054.062] ;B[kb]CR[kb]BL[668.151] ;W[gd]CR[gd]WL[1043.043] ;B[jh]CR[jh]BL[617.354] ;W[oj]CR[oj]WL[1033.146] ;B[qm]CR[qm]BL[593.312] ;W[qj]CR[qj]WL[1016.166] ;B[pi]CR[pi]BL[586.521] ;W[pm]CR[pm]WL[1015.205] ;B[rj]CR[rj]BL[565.216] ;W[lb]CR[lb]WL[1012.651] ;B[kc]CR[kc]BL[557.239] ;W[ka]CR[ka]WL[1009.979] ;B[mc]CR[mc]BL[544.239] ;W[fr]CR[fr]WL[1006.802] ;B[gr]CR[gr]BL[541.33] ;W[er]CR[er]WL[1006.004] ;B[hp]CR[hp]BL[529.468] ;W[hh]CR[hh]WL[980.106] ;B[hg]CR[hg]BL[449.221] ;W[ig]CR[ig]WL[975.375] ;B[ih]CR[ih]BL[430.437] ;W[hi]CR[hi]WL[972.187] ;B[if]CR[if]BL[415.337] ;W[gg]CR[gg]WL[970.734] ;B[hf]CR[hf]BL[412.128] ;W[gf]CR[gf]WL[969.802] ;B[fe]CR[fe]BL[406.217] ;W[fd]CR[fd]WL[967.856] ;B[jk]CR[jk]BL[375.47] ;W[mi]CR[mi]WL[965.426] ;B[ni]CR[ni]BL[357.303] ;W[mj]CR[mj]WL[958.648] ;B[mh]CR[mh]BL[349.674] ;W[kj]CR[kj]WL[955.471] ;B[km]CR[km]BL[321.334] ;W[lh]CR[lh]WL[953.492] ;B[lg]CR[lg]BL[314.523] ;W[jj]CR[jj]WL[949.306] ;B[ik]CR[ik]BL[300] ;W[in]CR[in]WL[947.085] ;B[lo]CR[lo]BL[300] ;W[lp]CR[lp]WL[945.473] ;B[jo]CR[jo]BL[300] ;W[jn]CR[jn]WL[943.708] ;B[kn]CR[kn]BL[300] ;W[kp]CR[kp]WL[942.841] ;B[kq]CR[kq]BL[300] ;W[io]CR[io]WL[940.083] ;B[jp]CR[jp]BL[300] ;W[gn]CR[gn]WL[939.33] ;B[ij]CR[ij]BL[240] ;W[ii]CR[ii]WL[936.721] ;B[ji]CR[ji]BL[240] ;W[kk]CR[kk]WL[928.06] ;B[kl]CR[kl]BL[180] ;W[en]CR[en]WL[885.818] ;B[gh]CR[gh]BL[180] ;W[gi]CR[gi]WL[834.617] ;B[fh]CR[fh]BL[180] ;W[fi]CR[fi]WL[830.273] ;B[eh]CR[eh]BL[180] ;W[ge]CR[ge]WL[802.681] ;B[ei]CR[ei]BL[180] ;W[fk]CR[fk]WL[769.236] ;B[gk]CR[gk]BL[180] ;W[fj]CR[fj]WL[763.388] ;B[hm]CR[hm]BL[180] ;W[go]CR[go]WL[756.539] ;B[im]CR[im]BL[180] ;W[kg]CR[kg]WL[739.125] ;B[jg]CR[jg]BL[180] ;W[mg]CR[mg]WL[736.632] ;B[li]CR[li]BL[180] ;W[lf]CR[lf]WL[730.913] ;B[ki]CR[ki]BL[180] ;W[nh]CR[nh]WL[727.117] ;B[ml]CR[ml]BL[180] ;W[mk]CR[mk]WL[724.174] ;B[mo]CR[mo]BL[180] ;W[mq]CR[mq]WL[721.952] ;B[mm]CR[mm]BL[180] ;W[mr]CR[mr]WL[719.625] ;B[lr]CR[lr]BL[180] ;W[lc]CR[lc]WL[707.411] ;B[ld]CR[ld]BL[180] ;W[md]CR[md]WL[703.179] ;B[mb]CR[mb]BL[180] ;W[la]CR[la]WL[701.476] ;B[ja]CR[ja]BL[180] ;W[ia]CR[ia]WL[699.617] ;B[ma]CR[ma]BL[180] ;W[ja]CR[ja]WL[698.153] ;B[le]CR[le]BL[180] ;W[me]CR[me]WL[695.318] ;B[nf]CR[nf]BL[180] ;W[ke]CR[ke]WL[634.31] ;B[kd]CR[kd]BL[180] ;W[kf]CR[kf]WL[628.575] ;B[mf]CR[mf]BL[180] ;W[id]CR[id]WL[625.164] ;B[jd]CR[jd]BL[180] ;W[jf]CR[jf]WL[624.192]C[Go9x9 [4k\]: thx agui [5k\]: thx ]) (;B[pf]CR[pf]C[velobici [9k\]: must get out Kikumaru [12k\]: weak for black MM [23k?\]: thank you Kikumaru [12k\]: ^^ ] (;W[pg]CR[pg] ;B[qh]CR[qh]C[Kikumaru [12k\]: lot's of cutting ] ;W[pe]CR[pe] ;B[of]CR[of] ;W[qc]CR[qc] ;B[pd]CR[pd]C[Restore [9k\]: black has too many cutting poitns flogo [2k\]: stop the river ! ] ;W[pc]CR[pc] ;B[od]CR[od] ;W[rb]CR[rb]C[Kikumaru [12k\]: white gets nice corner Looser [28k?\]: free white! agui [5k\]: yes too easy on white ]) (;W[qc]CR[qc]C[ADM [10k?\]: ah, a leadup Restore [9k\]: hm, interesting DrGoPlayer [5k\]: cut where yu dont want to be moodindigo [15k?\]: see MM [23k?\]: crazyness. Kikumaru [12k\]: can you repeat that? agui [5k\]: Oh interesting ! good tip HellBoy1 [9k\]: see jantiff [4k\]: cut the side you don't want, offering a sacrifice, yes tiuri0 [11k\]: cutting: play first where you do not want to be Looser [28k?\]: repeat what whisla [1k\]: black can still choose Q13 velobici [9k\]: cut where you dont want, first cutting stone is to be sacrificed whisla [1k\]: right ? TheCooler [9k\]: yes tiuri0 [11k\]: yes HarSig [?\]: yes agui [5k\]: yes Bardock [5k\]: yes ADM [10k?\]: yup HellBoy1 [9k\]: yup GodRaisty [15k\]: yay Looser [28k?\]: opposite czarny [8k\]: yup ] ;B[qb]CR[qb] ;W[pg]CR[pg] ;B[of]CR[of]C[Restore [9k\]: ok Naruchan [15k?\]: ok ] ;W[qh]CR[qh]C[Kikumaru [12k\]: very big MM [23k?\]: oh damn Kikumaru [12k\]: reduce black's moyo ]))) (;W[pf]CR[pf]C[ericlavine [5k?\]: that is bad moodindigo [15k?\]: why s14 MM [23k?\]: i'm still learning .so.sorry if i ask stupid question. Kikumaru [12k\]: q14? moodindigo [15k?\]: ? Kikumaru [12k\]: yah Kikumaru [12k\]: =P ])) (;B[qh]CR[qh]) (;B[pf]CR[pf]C[MM [23k?\]: to much. ivoSF [5k\]: q5 sudenly not any future danger ] (;W[qg]CR[qg]C[dkiller [8k?\]: for white ] ;B[pg]CR[pg] ;W[qh]CR[qh]C[Naruchan [15k?\]: paper tigerr = tonytiger ] ;B[ph]CR[ph]C[ericlavine [5k?\]: that makes life too easy though ] ;W[qi]CR[qi]C[Kikumaru [12k\]: he meant MM [23k?\]: LOL dkiller [8k?\]: after b13 Restore [9k\]: he asked about White q14 TonyTiger [7k\]: no paper is not me jantiff [4k\]: pushing from behind Kikumaru [12k\]: the q14 for white Marlix [10k\]: meant q14 for white agui [5k\]: no good for black jenofonte [?\]: But w is closed then ADM [10k?\]: hehe Kikumaru [12k\]: meant q14 for white when black played the mistakes at r13 ]) (;W[pg]CR[pg] (;B[rf]CR[rf]C[MM [23k?\]: cutting. pt. ] ;W[qg]CR[qg]C[Looser [28k?\]: where has all the moyo gone ] ;B[se]CR[se] ;W[rg]CR[rg] ;B[sd]CR[sd]C[Kikumaru [12k\]: no DrGoPlayer [5k\]: w sac MM [23k?\]: small house for black ] ;W[ng]CR[ng]C[borsuk [13k\]: no czarny [8k\]: nop jantiff [4k\]: terrible :) ADM [10k?\]: r9 weak TonyTiger [7k\]: where is moyo now? Looser [28k?\]: nop boubou [4k\]: no Kikumaru [12k\]: black at r9 very weak moodindigo [15k?\]: shuts himself in boubou [4k\]: r9 weak MM [23k?\]: white spread out ]) (;B[qg]CR[qg] ;W[rf]CR[rf]TR[qg]C[agui [5k\]: yes DrGoPlayer [5k\]: b too many cutting points Kikumaru [12k\]: T_T MM [23k?\]: i agree DR. ADM [10k?\]: thankyou for your lesson jenofonte [?\]: Thx Th4n4t0s [7k\]: thank U Looser [28k?\]: bye DrGoPlayer [5k\]: thanks HellBoy1 [9k\]: ok moodindigo [15k?\]: thanks Kikumaru [12k\]: cheche ivoSF [5k\]: thank you smudge [7k?\]: thank you! LithiumTwo [13k\]: okay - thanks Morphi [6k\]: ok thank you SoulDevil [4k?\]: thanks a lot Hu [8k\]: Thank you! flush [2d\]: Ok dkiller [8k?\]: thanks for lesson TonyTiger [7k\]: See you next week pyro [7k\]: thank you borsuk [13k\]: thx :) velobici [9k\]: yes thank you VERY much flush [2d\]: Thank you MM [23k?\]: Thank you seif [9k\]: thanks TheCooler [9k\]: sure thanks a lot GodRaisty [15k\]: thanks a lot rhubarb [10k\]: thanks Googo [?\]: thx DrizztDo [13k\]: thx tiuri0 [11k\]: thank you very much tomh [8k\]: thank you Wagner [1k\]: thx mjm [2k\]: thx very much czarny [8k\]: thank You playgo [3k\]: thanks very much nanashi0 [?\]: Thank you so much. Ambivlnce [13k\]: Thank you. def [?\]: thank you , so interesting ! meerkat [7k\]: thanks vince [5k\]: thank you HellBoy1 [9k\]: thx MajorTom [18k\]: Thx TonyTiger [7k\]: thanks agui [5k\]: ok Thanks you very much for the explanations tasuki [4d\]: thank you flogo [2k\]: thx Ralf [13k\]: thanks a lot^^ Berti [13k\]: thx LithiumTwo [13k\]: =) =) Wook [-\]: Thank you very much whisla [1k\]: thanks MM [23k?\]: its ok. raistlin [8k\]: thanks flush [2d\]: Good lesson amigo [12k\]: thx , cy guo HarSig [?\]: thanks Kikumaru [12k\]: hehe MM [23k?\]: thank you SO MUCH jenofonte [?\]: When did the class setartged? TonyTiger [7k\]: No worries MM [23k?\]: =) jenofonte [?\]: started? plonk [16k\]: thx a lot! Bodo212 [11k\]: thx boubou [4k\]: thx to you Kikumaru [12k\]: cheche Hu [8k\]: Au revoir TonyTiger [7k\]: ok HellBoy1 [9k\]: thx DangoMouse [2k\]: thanks HarSig [?\]: bye rhubarb [10k\]: bye Restore [9k\]: see you too :) pyro [7k\]: cu soon Morphi [6k\]: see you Haidiho2 [?\]: thx MM [23k?\]: bye TonyTiger [7k\]: bye bye Berti [13k\]: bye GodRaisty [15k\]: bye TheCooler [9k\]: see you Haikane [18k\]: time? ericlavine [5k?\]: byebye Stavrogin [9k\]: thanks! bye! Restore [9k\]: bye Stardust [?\]: thank you cu whisla [1k\]: bye :) boubou [4k\]: bye ndkrempel [9k\]: byeeeeee ADM [10k?\]: oyasumi borsuk [13k\]: By :) dkiller [8k?\]: 16:00 GMT jenofonte [?\]: Bye, thx moodindigo [15k?\]: (^_^)/~# galopin [13k\]: bai bai Th4n4t0s [7k\]: bye raistlin [8k\]: cu TonyTiger [7k\]: bye bye LithiumTwo [13k\]: bye flush [2d\]: bye DrizztDo [13k\]: bye agui [5k\]: thanks again bye vince [5k\]: bye dkiller [8k?\]: bye bye malteb [?\]: Thanks, bye Naruchan [15k?\]: bye bye thank u ^^ fido [2d\]: bye MM [23k?\]: Cool. jotarokung [2d\]: bye Harleqin [4k\]: bye thanks yunhwa [?\]: bye! bye! jotarokung [2d\]: thx jenofonte [?\]: SO, two hours ago? KY0 [-\]: ♥ :) MM [23k?\]: thank you. ivoSF [5k\]: you come to brussel? jotarokung [2d\]: ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ MM [23k?\]: bye. ])))) (;W[qc]CR[qc] ;B[pc]CR[pc] ;W[qb]CR[qb] ;B[re]CR[re] ;W[sc]CR[sc]) (;W[lc]CR[lc] ;B[id]CR[id] ;W[hd]CR[hd] ;B[he]CR[he]) (;W[he]CR[he] ;B[je]CR[je] ;W[ig]CR[ig] ;B[kg]TR[kg][qk]C[DrGoPlayer [5k\]: w walk ahead ericlavine [5k?\]: white walking ahead, but black getting all the benefit DrGoPlayer [5k\]: b moyo GodRaisty [15k\]: white is getting his own moyo from this amigo [12k\]: q10? DrGoPlayer [5k\]: enter just before close doors ] ;W[ji]CR[ji] ;B[li]CR[li] (;W[kk]CR[kk] ;B[nj]CR[nj]) (;W[pj]CR[pj]C[velobici [9k\]: enter the moyo just before the door(s) close dkiller [8k?\]: ok agui [5k\]: Yes , interesting idea pyro [7k\]: yes MM [23k?\]: can white play k19? DrGoPlayer [5k\]: if several doors open can wait on reducing ivoSF [5k\]: how abot r11? if k11 and m11 arnt done? ])) (;W[qi]CR[qi] ;B[pj]CR[pj]C[MM [23k?\]: monkey jump . K19?if door closes ])) (;B[rc]CR[rc]C[ivoSF [5k\]: maybe after running h15 one move? ] ;W[qe]CR[qe] (;B[pd]CR[pd] ;W[qh]CR[qh]) (;B[re]CR[re]C[ericlavine [5k?\]: k19 is not monkey jump ] ;W[pd]CR[pd] ;B[qc]CR[qc] ;W[rf]CR[rf] ;B[sd]CR[sd]C[MM [23k?\]: can white play there? czarny [8k\]: no way whisla [1k\]: P13 MM [23k?\]: though adulescens [?\]: p13 timewarp [7k\]: Q14 jotarokung [2d\]: r11 boubou [4k\]: q13? agui [5k\]: p13 moodindigo [15k?\]: q14 Naruchan [15k?\]: Q14 playgo [3k\]: P13 ? tiuri0 [11k\]: Q14? pyro [7k\]: P13 ADM [10k?\]: r14 Naruchan [15k?\]: yes DrGoPlayer [5k\]: dont need to save all stones Kikumaru [12k\]: the least amount of stones to make the largest territory is the goal =P ADM [10k?\]: ah i see czarny [8k\]: it's not better - it's different ] (;W[og]CR[og]C[DangoMouse [2k\]: q12? dkiller [8k?\]: P13 amigo [12k\]: q13 GodRaisty [15k\]: q14 Naruchan [15k?\]: go is better than chess... ] ;B[qf]CR[qf]C[DrGoPlayer [5k\]: w heay Hu [8k\]: (I will resist asking "wots chess" ^^ ) DrGoPlayer [5k\]: light Th4n4t0s [7k\]: r13 timewarp [7k\]: R13 velobici [9k\]: sacrifice ston agui [5k\]: r13 boubou [4k\]: r13? Naruchan [15k?\]: R13 Restore [9k\]: r13 of course playgo [3k\]: R13 Harleqin [4k\]: p9 h0029478 [7k\]: must R13 pyro [7k\]: Q14 velobici [9k\]: make sabaki dkiller [8k?\]: r13 ] (;W[pe]CR[pe]C[Naruchan [15k?\]: R13 Looser [28k?\]: yep14q dkiller [8k?\]: no TheCooler [9k\]: Q1^4 DrGoPlayer [5k\]: no Th4n4t0s [7k\]: no czarny [8k\]: no way Haikane [18k\]: r 13 Restore [9k\]: white r13 ] ;B[qg]CR[qg]C[Bardock [5k\]: r13 ]) (;W[qg]CR[qg] ;B[pe]CR[pe]C[Naruchan [15k?\]: white go q13 ] ;W[ok]CR[ok]C[Looser [28k?\]: q13 jantiff [4k\]: gaining power over R9 Naruchan [15k?\]: yes ^^ ] ;B[qi]CR[qi] ;W[oi]CR[oi] ;B[rg]CR[rg]C[velobici [9k\]: now r9 is weak HarSig [?\]: yes ADM [10k?\]: i see ^^ i dont read far enough ahead ^^" Restore [9k\]: yes agui [5k\]: yes DrGoPlayer [5k\]: w make sabaki with sacrifice MM [23k?\]: white gains center? Looser [28k?\]: hai Kikumaru [12k\]: XD MM [23k?\]: thats me.lol yunhwa [?\]: ha ha Naruchan [15k?\]: yes ADM [10k?\]: yes agui [5k\]: yes Naruchan [15k?\]: ^^ moodindigo [15k?\]: nod DrGoPlayer [5k\]: keep only important stones ivoSF [5k\]: the wall czarny [8k\]: cutting stones ADM [10k?\]: p13 DrGoPlayer [5k\]: which are important? GodRaisty [15k\]: p line sotnes Looser [28k?\]: p 13 p11 Marlix [10k\]: on the p line moodindigo [15k?\]: ones on p line playgo [3k\]: P13 P11 P9 are important velobici [9k\]: stones that cut two weak groups ericlavine [5k?\]: borders of territory, large groups of stones, cutting stones velobici [9k\]: stones that make base jenofonte [?\]: How can we know if a stone is a good one? flush [2d\]: :) agui [5k\]: ok I see MM [23k?\]: but. dont you have to protect cutting stone? ])) (;W[qf]CR[qf]C[HellBoy1 [9k\]: sabaki ericlavine [5k?\]: mm: black could respond j18, easy to block Looser [28k?\]: p14 DrGoPlayer [5k\]: white weak ioutside Th4n4t0s [7k\]: heavy ndkrempel [9k\]: r11 ADM [10k?\]: yes ^^" MM [23k?\]: yea ADM [10k?\]: i see MM [23k?\]: oops. =P ] ;B[qh]CR[qh]C[MM [23k?\]: i agree/ ]) (;W[pg]CR[pg]C[MM [23k?\]: Q14 ])))) (;W[dn]CR[dn]C[DrGoPlayer [5k\]: f3 makes few points ] ;B[hp]CR[hp])) (;B[cn]CR[cn]C[DrGoPlayer [5k\]: d6 makes more points ]) (;B[ph]CR[ph] ;W[dn]CR[dn]C[agui [5k\]: ok TheCooler [9k\]: C3 ? dkiller [8k?\]: no Harleqin [4k\]: top side ] ;B[fq]CR[fq]C[velobici [9k\]: not f3 for black Berti [13k\]: g3 flush [2d\]: No d2 if at all h0029478 [7k\]: K17? moodindigo [15k?\]: why notk16 ])) (;B[dg]CR[dg]C[liangsanbo [3k\]: W flush [2d\]: not overconentracted just gote for white hurts dkiller [8k?\]: good fotr black ] ;W[ef]CR[ef] (;B[cc]CR[cc] ;W[ce]CR[ce] ;B[dc]CR[dc] ;W[eg]CR[eg]) (;B[cd]CR[cd]C[jotarokung [2d\]: W c17 malte [-\]: yeah TheCooler [9k\]: sure Bardock [5k\]: yes velobici [9k\]: yes Morphi [6k\]: yep agui [5k\]: I see the important side is the left side moodindigo [15k?\]: ys DrGoPlayer [5k\]: moyo is on left not corner so destroy left dkiller [8k?\]: ok malte [-\]: heh MM [23k?\]: i need help with that. hehe ] ;W[ce]CR[ce] ;B[be]CR[be] ;W[de]CR[de] ;B[bg]CR[bg] ;W[cc]CR[cc] ;B[bd]CR[bd] ;W[eg]CR[eg] ;B[dh]CR[dh]C[MM [23k?\]: yes ]))) (;W[ee]CR[ee] ;B[cc]CR[cc] ;W[cd]CR[cd] ;B[dc]CR[dc] ;W[gd]CR[gd]C[flush [2d\]: w play c17? DrGoPlayer [5k\]: consistent with d10 ] ;B[ed]CR[ed] ;W[de]CR[de] ;B[bd]CR[bd] ;W[be]CR[be] ;B[bc]CR[bc] ;W[dg]CR[dg]C[velobici [9k\]: d13 very nice. ericlavine [5k?\]: whoa, d13 instead of c15? agui [5k\]: ok, I see DangoMouse [2k\]: stops the ladder eric ])) (;W[ip]CR[ip] ;B[iq]CR[iq] ;W[hp]CR[hp]C[moodindigo [15k?\]: white has caught up velobici [9k\]: now black fell behind Morphi [6k\]: yes playgo [3k\]: yes malte [-\]: yes GodRaisty [15k\]: yes Bardock [5k\]: yes HarSig [?\]: yes Naruchan [15k?\]: yes jotarokung [2d\]: ye TonyTiger [7k\]: yes DrGoPlayer [5k\]: w walks ahead now amigo [12k\]: is k4 urgent on board ? agui [5k\]: yes but k4 looks a litle thin to me Naruchan [15k?\]: ok ^^ ])) (;B[jp]CR[jp]C[DrGoPlayer [5k\]: yes ])) (;W[lp]CR[lp]C[velobici [9k\]: in this pushing ] ;B[kq]CR[kq] ;W[kp]CR[kp] ;B[jp]CR[jp] ;W[jo]CR[jo] ;B[ip]CR[ip]C[MM [23k?\]: black has big side. Kikumaru [12k\]: ^^ agui [5k\]: yes Naruchan [15k?\]: 5 kyu!! playgo [3k\]: 5k stronger ? Naruchan [15k?\]: stronger!!! Hu [8k\]: good concept. GodRaisty [15k\]: yay 5 kyu Naruchan [15k?\]: xD MM [23k?\]: i wish. ])) (;W[lp]CR[lp]C[ericlavine [5k?\]: black can cut r4 though, i think that was the idea MM [23k?\]: yes DrGoPlayer [5k\]: w walks ahead here TonyTiger [7k\]: It would be running lazy [?\]: go sounds like a mine-field ;p lazy [?\]: (i hope i won't get a ticket cause of thinking about it;P) ])) (;B[pr]CR[pr] (;W[qp]CR[qp] (;B[mp]CR[mp]) (;B[lq]CR[lq]C[DrGoPlayer [5k\]: ood for b ])) (;W[lp]CR[lp] ;B[qp]CR[qp] ;W[qo]CR[qo]))) (;B[qm]CR[qm]) (;B[pl]CR[pl]))