(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1800]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[joseph]PB[xavier]WR[2k]BR[5p]DT[2004-10-21]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[I was black and I began well
But I dislike the moves I played after move 69
godman [1k\]: begin ?
GMF [12k?\]: Who was black?!
]
;B[qd]CR[qd]
;W[dc]CR[dc]
;B[pq]CR[pq]
;W[dq]CR[dq]C[moichido [14k?\]: the student
]
;B[oc]CR[oc]C[p7a77 [10k\]: What was the level of the players, please?
]
;W[po]CR[po]C[spingle [8k\]: audio?
Kikuchyo [?\]: guojuan's student
]
(;B[qm]CR[qm]C[agui [5k\]: no audio
Staer [7k\]: no sound
godman [1k\]: y
ivoSF [5k\]: yes
Staer [7k\]: yes
Modomannen [13k\]: ye
GMF [12k?\]: yes
suchmi [9k\]: yes
Nitrose [24k\]: yes
Hunternet [12k\]: yes
OmShanti2 [13k\]: yes
RedPrince [12k\]: yes
Baga [9k\]: yes
Morphi [6k\]: yes
Saiya [4k\]: yes
sputnik [16k\]: yes
GMF [12k?\]: now
zazie [-\]: yes
moichido [14k?\]: yes
Charisma18 [9k\]: yeah
iru [8k?\]: yes
hugogogo [5k\]: y
spingle [8k\]: thnx yeah ;)
grmaster [9k\]: yes
Shinrei [-\]: myu ^^
rhubarb [11k\]: hehe
agui [5k\]: yes now is ok
helium [4k\]: :)
zazie [-\]: :-)
Fatality [16k?\]: I hear you :)
Charisma18 [9k\]: ^^
thomen [12k?\]: :D
edlee [11k\]: If W knows B will likely pincer Q5, is Q5 still a good move for W ?
]
;W[on]CR[on]
;B[om]CR[om]
;W[nm]CR[nm]
;B[ol]CR[ol]
(;W[oq]CR[oq]C[GMF [12k?\]: and the center is open , still i think.. 
Scribe [?\]: this is a mistake by white
]
;B[or]CR[or]
;W[nq]CR[nq]
(;B[nr]CR[nr]
;W[mq]CR[mq]
;B[qo]CR[qo]C[godman [1k\]: b miss a oppertunity
Scribe [?\]: o2 mistake makes white stronger
GMF [12k?\]: q6!
moichido [14k?\]: r4
Smudo [?\]: r6?
Nitrose [24k\]: r6
Nitrose [24k\]: ?
Scribe [?\]: r5 is very dangerous move for black
Charisma18 [9k\]: r4
ivoSF [5k\]: r6
godman [1k\]: r4
eminent [13k\]: R4
agui [5k\]: R3
StoneSage [18k\]: q4
FireFox04 [13k\]: R4
plonk [16k\]: q4
rhubarb [11k\]: r4
iru [8k?\]: r4
pedro69 [12k\]: r4
playgo [3k\]: R4 Q4 R6 ?
GMF [12k?\]: i still thin q6!
Otop [7k\]: r4
]
(;W[cj]CR[cj]
(;B[jd]CR[jd]C[Scribe [?\]: black ends in gote and three stones above are weakened by white r4
Hunternet [12k\]: scribe is doing
grmaster [9k\]: she is talking too fast for my typing :-)
helium [4k\]: no no!
Wook [-\]: no
vosje [17k\]: no
rhubarb [11k\]: no
Nitrose [24k\]: no, its ok
evilpixie [8k\]: no not at all
play4fun [2k\]: no
IceApple [?\]: not really
DrGoPlayer [5k\]: no
GMF [12k?\]: nooooooooooooooo ^^
Hunternet [12k\]: for me its okay ^^
moichido [14k?\]: it is ok
godman [1k\]: no , just fine
puimakzz [17k?\]: no
Tictactoe [-\]: no, i don't think so
Makato [18k?\]: ;-)
Bardock [5k\]: XD
lurchi [15k?\]: no
RikiTiki [6k\]: just right
swordsplay [10k\]: no
Fatality [16k?\]: why whtie shouldn't play K16 ?
vosje [17k\]: too fast for writing only
Scribe [?\]: no you are fine..scribe will get the gist of the lecture
playgo [3k\]: i hear all the phones ringing...
woll997 [5k\]: ☎
godman [1k\]: hehe, always phones coming
GMF [12k?\]: yes
Nitrose [24k\]: yea
vosje [17k\]: yes
suchmi [9k\]: yes
grmaster [9k\]: it is private chat rinnings
Morphi [6k\]: sure
eminent [13k\]: ya
]
;W[nl]CR[nl]C[Scribe [?\]: yes
Staer [7k\]: yes
Smudo [?\]: yes
Otop [7k\]: me too
Tictactoe [-\]: yes, i do
DangoMouse [-\]: Guo, did you know there is a no chats option in the user menu?
]
;B[ok]CR[ok]C[zee [5k\]: yes
abbadan [17k?\]: :)
playgo [3k\]: is the moyo better then the territory ?
Scribe [?\]: see last lecture
]
(;W[rd]CR[rd]
;B[qe]CR[qe]
(;W[ej]CR[ej]C[godman [1k\]: too loose
Scribe [?\]: wrong place.  white must keima at n10, build moyo
helium [4k\]: :))
Marlix [10k\]: you can turn it off gua
helium [4k\]: yes
Smudo [?\]: yes
Korenn [8k\]: turn off sound in options
Staer [7k\]: There is a way
Marlix [10k\]: in the options menu
Tictactoe [-\]: unplug the phone
Scribe [?\]: User menu
DangoMouse [-\]: no chats, under the user menu
bourrette [6k\]: you can block in "user"
evilpixie [8k\]: user menu -? no chat
Scribe [?\]: no chats option
Smudo [?\]: user -> no chat
FireFox04 [13k\]: user-> no chats
Scribe [?\]: User Menu -> no chats
p7a77 [10k\]: thanks  :)
Wook [-\]: And please folks...STOP messaging her
Korenn [8k\]: \\o/
]
;B[mj]CR[mj]C[Otop [7k\]: -*-
zazie [-\]: good !
grmaster [9k\]: better to turn of those rings
Scribe [?\]: vital point for both players
zazie [-\]: it's the vital point 
Tictactoe [-\]: crosspoint of moyo
zazie [-\]: light point of the goban
]
;W[hd]CR[hd]
;B[de]CR[de]TR[dc][hd][cj][ej]C[helium [4k\]: hmm
GMF [12k?\]: white
godman [1k\]: w
puimakzz [17k?\]: w
Fatality [16k?\]: W
FireFox04 [13k\]: W
rhubarb [11k\]: white
GMF [12k?\]: must stronger
moichido [14k?\]: w
Staer [7k\]: white!
Nitrose [24k\]: white
zazie [-\]: :)
pedro69 [12k\]: w
iru [8k?\]: white
eminent [13k\]: attack
hugogogo [5k\]: C16
Ubiquity [1d?\]: kill black
godman [1k\]: attac
bourrette [6k\]: attack
zazie [-\]: attack !
moichido [14k?\]: keep distance
evilpixie [8k\]: cap
eminent [13k\]: DEMOLISH!!!
DocNo [11k\]: attack
GMF [12k?\]: perhaps attacking where w isweak
zazie [-\]: pince !
godman [1k\]: c16
moichido [14k?\]: f16
p7a77 [10k\]: f16?
eminent [13k\]: strengthen self
Tictactoe [-\]: score points
Bardock [5k\]: be aggressive
eminent [13k\]: E16
DrGoPlayer [5k\]: take base away
trestles [2d\]: remove base
evilpixie [8k\]: stop him expanding
Staer [7k\]: Deny base
Scribe [?\]: white is much stronger. black must attack, this move is wrong for attack
DocNo [11k\]: c3 or d3
schokonick [19k\]: tsuke?
ivoSF [5k\]: remove eyes
zazie [-\]: D13 ?
eminent [13k\]: oh
bourrette [6k\]: make a shape and steal life base
GMF [12k?\]: first build strenght
p7a77 [10k\]: d13
eminent [13k\]: D14
rhubarb [11k\]: c13
Otop [7k\]: c16
vince [5k\]: c16
hakkl [18k?\]: d13
zazie [-\]: i will play D13
Scribe [?\]: first step, remove eye shape of opponent
evilpixie [8k\]: c13
Tweenie [-\]: C16
notowuri [2d\]: c16
sputnik [16k\]: d13
Tictactoe [-\]: C16 
Staer [7k\]: C16?
bourrette [6k\]: c16?
lurchi [15k?\]: cut off
moichido [14k?\]: d12
DrGoPlayer [5k\]: c16
Aimless [9k\]: c15?
Bardock [5k\]: c16
agui [5k\]: C16
ivoSF [5k\]: c16?
thomen [12k?\]: e15
playgo [3k\]: C13 ?
Nitrose [24k\]: E14
iru [8k?\]: c16
Wook [-\]: build a base for your own stones, attack from strength
Staer [7k\]: ok
guojuan [5p\]: mingjiu, are you there?
moichido [14k?\]: k
eminent [13k\]: ok
GMF [12k?\]: okay understood
Modomannen [13k\]: ok
mingjiu [7p\]: yes
guojuan [5p\]: time for mingjiu
ArekM [10k\]: C14 it seems be good
godman [1k\]: good
eminent [13k\]: He left
GMF [12k?\]: okay
Bardock [5k\]: ok
p7a77 [10k\]: you can go to file > set preferences and turn off "alarm for tells"
godman [1k\]: go go go
p7a77 [10k\]: that should stop the ringing
Fatality [16k?\]: oki
zazie [-\]: see you lat... aaargh
Wook [-\]: just STOP these annoying messages guys
guojuan [5p\]: pleace go to mingjiu's game
guojuan [5p\]: we will continue here later
Bardock [5k\]: yes
DocNo [11k\]: yes
RedPrince [12k\]: yes!
hakkl [18k?\]: yes
puimakzz [17k?\]: yes
eminent [13k\]: hear
GloiraZEBU [3k?\]: yes
zee [5k\]:             yes     
p7a77 [10k\]: hello
moichido [14k?\]: =) k
vosje [17k\]: ok
lurchi [15k?\]: y
GMF [12k?\]: k
Bardock [5k\]: ok
Wook [-\]: sure guojuan, please sing during the waiting time :o)
moichido [14k?\]: yeah
Santa [5k\]: what song wook?
flogo [2k\]: msn :D
eminent [13k\]: now it's MSN
eminent [13k\]: haha
GloiraZEBU [3k?\]: true
Wook [-\]: santa please choose :)
ArekM [10k\]: we are back
moichido [14k?\]: sounds like a cow shitting
Santa [5k\]: maybe a christmas song?
Korenn [8k\]: guojuan: maybe you should move the microphone a bit away from the keyboard. we can hear the keys
flogo [2k\]: *tap tap tap * msn
GMF [12k?\]: ^^
GloiraZEBU [3k?\]: :) concerto for drums
IceApple [?\]: euh i think we did
godman [1k\]: i know
Wook [-\]: sure :)
vosje [17k\]: yes
moichido [14k?\]: yeah
ArekM [10k\]: yes
pedro69 [12k\]: yes
GMF [12k?\]: yooooooooo
hakkl [18k?\]: yes
Morphi [6k\]: sure
Scribe [?\]: yes please
Bardock [5k\]: yes
DocNo [11k\]: yes
IceApple [?\]: y
RedPrince [12k\]: yup!
Korenn [8k\]: yes!
agui [5k\]: yes
iru [8k?\]: yes
thomen [12k?\]: yes
schokonick [19k\]: yes
puimakzz [17k?\]: yes
bourrette [6k\]: yaaaaah
lurchi [15k?\]: y
ueno [?\]: yes
Shinrei [-\]: myu ^^
pepermite [7k\]: ok
maufred [9k\]: yeah
rhubarb [11k\]: yes
Otop [7k\]: yes
Charisma18 [9k\]: yo
moichido [14k?\]: yo
Bardock [5k\]: yes
Staer [7k\]: Just fine
GMF [12k?\]: noooooooooooooooooooooooo
GMF [12k?\]: ^^
suchmi [9k\]: yes
GMF [12k?\]: yes
godman [1k\]: next time teach in SiChuan Hua
abbadan [17k?\]: yes
GloiraZEBU [3k?\]: can u speak french for me ?
iru [8k?\]: yes, loud and clear
tibra [12k?\]: yes
Charisma18 [9k\]: we can hear you!
zazie [-\]: :-)
zazie [-\]: yep
moichido [14k?\]: d12
agui [5k\]: C16
iru [8k?\]: c16
Scribe [?\]: If you are stronger than opponent then attack, else defend
Scribe [?\]: white is clearly stronger here
eminent [13k\]: D13?
Scribe [?\]: first stop in attacking, take away eye shape
GMF [12k?\]: d13?!
godo123 [-\]: only if strong enough attack, else defend
dr [8k\]: D13?
agui [5k\]: C16
playgo [3k\]: C16 
brx [11k\]: d13
jantiff [-\]: C16
ulven [13k\]: C16
Morphi [6k\]: d13
vosje [17k\]: D13
hakkl [18k?\]: d13
bourrette [6k\]: c16
Orphan [?\]: C15
moichido [14k?\]: d13
Korenn [8k\]: c16
thomen [12k?\]: e15
spingle [8k\]: c16
fahad [18k\]: c 13
agui [5k\]: C16
schimo [2d\]: c15 or c13?
godman [1k\]: c16 better
Scribe [?\]: black c14 is a horrible mistake
bangabongo [19k\]: agreed
spingle [8k\]: phew i thought i was going deaf ;)
]
(;W[fc]CR[fc]
(;B[dh]CR[dh]TR[cj][ej]C[godman [1k\]: fly
GMF [12k?\]: yo
agui [5k\]: ok
moichido [14k?\]: b12
schimo [2d\]: c16
yapee [9k?\]: g14
godo123 [-\]: c16
jantiff [-\]: C16
p7a77 [10k\]: c16?
photobug [-\]: c16 still
vosje [17k\]: C16
bangabongo [19k\]: f 12
swordsplay [10k\]: f12?
yuri [4k\]: underneath
GMF [12k?\]: black is weak
eminent [13k\]: D13
godman [1k\]: c16
Scribe [?\]: not base, not run, this black runs into a closed door, white two stones on line 10
Morphi [6k\]: f12
bolbi [10k\]: C16 
Charisma18 [9k\]: yes!
]
;W[cd]CR[cd]C[zazie [-\]: yep
Scribe [?\]: black is still weak, attack
bangabongo [19k\]: i see
Charisma18 [9k\]: kill black!
]
(;B[gg]CR[gg]C[tibra [12k?\]: yes
]
;W[hf]CR[hf]
(;B[hh]CR[hh]C[Hu [9k\]: "Killing a group is not easy, perhaps you already have this experience"
]
;W[ig]CR[ig]
;B[kg]CR[kg]TR[lh]C[dr [8k\]: j11 now?
GMF [12k?\]: m11?!
vosje [17k\]: yes
moichido [14k?\]: yop
godman [1k\]: moyo is used to fight, not to used for get territory
agui [5k\]: yes
]
;W[fi]CR[fi]TR[kg][li][mj]C[Scribe [?\]: black has two issues, keep the moyo and escape at the same time  too busy
GMF [12k?\]: i jsut thought
]
(;B[hj]CR[hj]
;W[fg]CR[fg]
;B[kq]CR[kq]C[swordsplay [10k\]: has eye shape
godman [1k\]: lose too much in upper left conner
zazie [-\]: attack a wall :)
swordsplay [10k\]: not really
moichido [14k?\]: yes
agui [5k\]: yes
GMF [12k?\]: yes is in danger
eminent [13k\]: no
yuri [4k\]: no
jantiff [-\]: w is thick enough
thomen [12k?\]: no
eminent [13k\]: white is strong
Scribe [?\]: this white group have eye shape or not?  in danger or not?
Scribe [?\]: not in danger
photobug [-\]: white is thick
godman [1k\]: no, it looks like a live shape
eminent [13k\]: weak kills strong
eminent [13k\]: yeah
moichido [14k?\]: n5
bourrette [6k\]: fight in socket
]
(;W[kp]CR[kp]
;B[jp]CR[jp]
;W[ko]CR[ko]
;B[gq]CR[gq]
;W[lq]CR[lq]TR[kq]C[godman [1k\]: it is light
godman [1k\]: coz white is live
]
(;B[do]CR[do]C[Scribe [?\]: very good sente
p7a77 [10k\]: oh yes
bangabongo [19k\]: yes
vosje [17k\]: yes!
swordsplay [10k\]: yes
moichido [14k?\]: yop
puimakzz [17k?\]: yes
suchmi [9k\]: true
Bardock [5k\]: yes
agui [5k\]: yes it is
eminent [13k\]: yes
schokonick [19k\]: true :-)
StoneSage [18k\]: yes
tibra [12k?\]: yes...
GMF [12k?\]: mostly yes
Charisma18 [9k\]: i always have sente - but then i usually lose
Scribe [?\]: must strive to keep sente
Fatality [16k?\]: scribe strike ?
Scribe [?\]: strive....try vigorously
Scribe [?\]: very easy play but this stone is not important, better to take sente abandon L3
]
(;W[ep]CR[ep]
(;B[fo]CR[fo]C[schimo [2d\]: uberspiel
swordsplay [10k\]: black is too thin
Ubiquity [1d?\]: kill kill kill
moichido [14k?\]: nop
jantiff [-\]: looks thin
moichido [14k?\]: overplay
Santa [5k\]: i don't like it
bourrette [6k\]: trick
]
;W[eo]CR[eo]
;B[en]CR[en]C[Scribe [?\]: appears to be dangerous fro white but Black is too thin here
]
;W[gp]CR[gp]
;B[fm]CR[fm]C[godman [1k\]: paper tiger ?
]
(;W[hp]CR[hp]C[dr [8k\]: :D
Santa [5k\]: tiger is 3d
godman [1k\]: haha
]
;B[fp]CR[fp]
;W[fq]CR[fq]C[Scribe [?\]: connecting stones is very oimportant, then cut opponents stones
]
;B[fr]CR[fr]
;W[eq]CR[eq]
;B[hq]CR[hq]
;W[go]CR[go]
;B[fn]CR[fn]C[GMF [12k?\]: understood, ma'm
]
(;W[jo]CR[jo]
(;B[jq]CR[jq]C[PepboyGo [-\]: in sente too, right?
PepboyGo [-\]: as l3 was dangerous?
moichido [14k?\]: k
]
;W[ip]CR[ip]C[GMF [12k?\]: yo
zazie [-\]: ok
]
(;B[lr]CR[lr]C[PepboyGo [-\]: oh well
PepboyGo [-\]: nm
Hu [9k\]: OK to push from behind, Santa, if you are crushing your opponent against an anvil.
GoKlaus [4k\]: j3
p7a77 [10k\]: j3
GMF [12k?\]: j3
vosje [17k\]: j3
godo123 [-\]: J3
vosje [17k\]: cut
Scribe [?\]: how should white play, black shape very weak
moichido [14k?\]: j2
Bardock [5k\]: j3 then n2
]
(;W[mr]CR[mr]
;B[kr]CR[kr]
;W[er]CR[er]
;B[ms]CR[ms]
;W[gl]CR[gl]
;B[fk]CR[fk]C[until this move, I was no so unhappy of what I played, but for the folowwing moves, I thought I could easily found better moves.
]
;W[fl]CR[fl]
;B[el]CR[el]
;W[ek]CR[ek]
;B[hm]CR[hm]
;W[gk]CR[gk]
;B[hn]CR[hn]
;W[io]CR[io]
;B[il]CR[il]
;W[ik]CR[ik]
;B[jk]CR[jk]
;W[ij]CR[ij]
;B[kl]CR[kl]
;W[jm]CR[jm]
;B[jl]CR[jl]
;W[ih]CR[ih]TR[aa][ha][hc][hd][hf][lo][mo][no][lp][mp][np][ar][br][cr][dr][fr]C[ivoSF [5k\]: white escape but can life?
ivoSF [5k\]: err black
godman [1k\]: no choice, but w
Scribe [?\]: time to count
GMF [12k?\]: what to?!
Santa [5k\]: solid points?
yuri [4k\]: very few
zazie [-\]: 20 points in the south east ?
eminent [13k\]: black by about 9.5
ivoSF [5k\]: 70-75
zazie [-\]: 20 sure points
yapee [9k?\]: about 60
godman [1k\]: 60
schimo [2d\]: 50
zazie [-\]: and the moyo
Korenn [8k\]: 60-70
photobug [-\]: maybe black has 25
vince [5k\]: 80
bourrette [6k\]: 70?
Santa [5k\]: 80
moichido [14k?\]: 70-80
agui [5k\]: 90
hum [7k?\]: 100
godman [1k\]:  70 =
dr [8k\]: black moyo about 120
LithiumTwo [13k\]: 100
notowuri [2d\]: 60
godman [1k\]: 70+
p7a77 [10k\]: 110
jantiff [-\]: 70
Saiya [4k\]: over 120
zee [5k\]: 60
ivoSF [5k\]: white 55 or so
tibra [12k?\]: 80
Charisma18 [9k\]: 3
Harleqin [4k\]: 50 moyo + 10 lower right
Ambivlnce [13k\]: 100
lurchi [15k?\]: 80
photobug [-\]: plus twenty or 25 potential from the moyo
borsuk [12k\]: 93
zazie [-\]: 100 points i think
FireFox04 [13k\]: 130
jhudsy [10k\]: 100
LithiumTwo [13k\]: over a 3rd of board
Tweenie [-\]: 60 - 70
flydog [3k\]: < 100
rhubarb [11k\]: w 8590
rhubarb [11k\]: 85
brx [11k\]: 70-80
GMF [12k?\]: more than black
GMF [12k?\]: ^^
ivoSF [5k\]: w 60 inc the komi
iru [8k?\]: 60-70 black
jhudsy [10k\]: 90
zazie [-\]: a lot ! :)
moichido [14k?\]: 60
Scribe [?\]: 10 in lower right
LithiumTwo [13k\]: 60
ArekM [10k\]: black has nore
Korenn [8k\]: 80
bourrette [6k\]: 60?
abbadan [17k?\]: 50-60?
dr [8k\]: white has better thickness, easier to count
eminent [13k\]: solid territory
eminent [13k\]: haha
Ambivlnce [13k\]: 80 w
Morphi [6k\]: 80
LithiumTwo [13k\]: 70
agui [5k\]: 90
pepermite [7k\]: 80
Scribe [?\]: 15 upper left
vince [5k\]: 100
notowuri [2d\]: 75
Charisma18 [9k\]: too much
flydog [3k\]: 80 solid.
jantiff [-\]: 70+
godman [1k\]: 80
LithiumTwo [13k\]: Black is winning?
GoKlaus [4k\]: 75-85
godman [1k\]: about 80
zazie [-\]: 80 points
Santa [5k\]: 10 + 10 + 50
lurchi [15k?\]: same at the left
brx [11k\]: 75
zazie [-\]: yep
iru [8k?\]: ok
agui [5k\]: ten
GMF [12k?\]: the corner in the upper right!!!!
Tweenie [-\]: plus komi for white
agui [5k\]: ten also
Bardock [5k\]: 90
][ivoSF [5k\]: white escape but can life?
ivoSF [5k\]: err black
godman [1k\]: no choice, but w
Scribe [?\]: time to count
GMF [12k?\]: what to?!
Santa [5k\]: solid points?
yuri [4k\]: very few
zazie [-\]: 20 points in the south east ?
eminent [13k\]: black by about 9.5
ivoSF [5k\]: 70-75
zazie [-\]: 20 sure points
yapee [9k?\]: about 60
godman [1k\]: 60
schimo [2d\]: 50
zazie [-\]: and the moyo
Korenn [8k\]: 60-70
photobug [-\]: maybe black has 25
vince [5k\]: 80
bourrette [6k\]: 70?
Santa [5k\]: 80
moichido [14k?\]: 70-80
agui [5k\]: 90
hum [7k?\]: 100
godman [1k\]:  70 =
dr [8k\]: black moyo about 120
LithiumTwo [13k\]: 100
notowuri [2d\]: 60
godman [1k\]: 70+
p7a77 [10k\]: 110
jantiff [-\]: 70
Saiya [4k\]: over 120
zee [5k\]: 60
ivoSF [5k\]: white 55 or so
tibra [12k?\]: 80
Charisma18 [9k\]: 3
Harleqin [4k\]: 50 moyo + 10 lower right
Ambivlnce [13k\]: 100
lurchi [15k?\]: 80
photobug [-\]: plus twenty or 25 potential from the moyo
borsuk [12k\]: 93
zazie [-\]: 100 points i think
FireFox04 [13k\]: 130
jhudsy [10k\]: 100
LithiumTwo [13k\]: over a 3rd of board
Tweenie [-\]: 60 - 70
flydog [3k\]: < 100
rhubarb [11k\]: w 8590
rhubarb [11k\]: 85
brx [11k\]: 70-80
GMF [12k?\]: more than black
GMF [12k?\]: ^^
ivoSF [5k\]: w 60 inc the komi
iru [8k?\]: 60-70 black
jhudsy [10k\]: 90
zazie [-\]: a lot ! :)
moichido [14k?\]: 60
Scribe [?\]: 10 in lower right
LithiumTwo [13k\]: 60
ArekM [10k\]: black has nore
Korenn [8k\]: 80
bourrette [6k\]: 60?
abbadan [17k?\]: 50-60?
dr [8k\]: white has better thickness, easier to count
eminent [13k\]: solid territory
eminent [13k\]: haha
Ambivlnce [13k\]: 80 w
Morphi [6k\]: 80
LithiumTwo [13k\]: 70
agui [5k\]: 90
pepermite [7k\]: 80
Scribe [?\]: 15 upper left
vince [5k\]: 100
notowuri [2d\]: 75
Charisma18 [9k\]: too much
flydog [3k\]: 80 solid.
jantiff [-\]: 70+
godman [1k\]: 80
LithiumTwo [13k\]: Black is winning?
GoKlaus [4k\]: 75-85
godman [1k\]: about 80
zazie [-\]: 80 points
Santa [5k\]: 10 + 10 + 50
lurchi [15k?\]: same at the left
][ivoSF [5k\]: white escape but can life?
ivoSF [5k\]: err black
godman [1k\]: no choice, but w
Scribe [?\]: time to count
GMF [12k?\]: what to?!
Santa [5k\]: solid points?
yuri [4k\]: very few
zazie [-\]: 20 points in the south east ?
eminent [13k\]: black by about 9.5
ivoSF [5k\]: 70-75
zazie [-\]: 20 sure points
yapee [9k?\]: about 60
godman [1k\]: 60
schimo [2d\]: 50
zazie [-\]: and the moyo
Korenn [8k\]: 60-70
photobug [-\]: maybe black has 25
vince [5k\]: 80
bourrette [6k\]: 70?
Santa [5k\]: 80
moichido [14k?\]: 70-80
agui [5k\]: 90
hum [7k?\]: 100
godman [1k\]:  70 =
dr [8k\]: black moyo about 120
LithiumTwo [13k\]: 100
notowuri [2d\]: 60
godman [1k\]: 70+
p7a77 [10k\]: 110
jantiff [-\]: 70
Saiya [4k\]: over 120
zee [5k\]: 60
ivoSF [5k\]: white 55 or so
tibra [12k?\]: 80
Charisma18 [9k\]: 3
Harleqin [4k\]: 50 moyo + 10 lower right
Ambivlnce [13k\]: 100
lurchi [15k?\]: 80
photobug [-\]: plus twenty or 25 potential from the moyo
borsuk [12k\]: 93
zazie [-\]: 100 points i think
FireFox04 [13k\]: 130
jhudsy [10k\]: 100
LithiumTwo [13k\]: over a 3rd of board
Tweenie [-\]: 60 - 70
flydog [3k\]: < 100
rhubarb [11k\]: w 8590
rhubarb [11k\]: 85
brx [11k\]: 70-80
GMF [12k?\]: more than black
GMF [12k?\]: ^^
ivoSF [5k\]: w 60 inc the komi
iru [8k?\]: 60-70 black
jhudsy [10k\]: 90
zazie [-\]: a lot ! :)
moichido [14k?\]: 60
Scribe [?\]: 10 in lower right
LithiumTwo [13k\]: 60
ArekM [10k\]: black has nore
Korenn [8k\]: 80
bourrette [6k\]: 60?
abbadan [17k?\]: 50-60?
dr [8k\]: white has better thickness, easier to count
eminent [13k\]: solid territory
eminent [13k\]: haha
Ambivlnce [13k\]: 80 w
Morphi [6k\]: 80
LithiumTwo [13k\]: 70
agui [5k\]: 90
pepermite [7k\]: 80
Scribe [?\]: 15 upper left
vince [5k\]: 100
notowuri [2d\]: 75
Charisma18 [9k\]: too much
flydog [3k\]: 80 solid.
jantiff [-\]: 70+
godman [1k\]: 80
LithiumTwo [13k\]: Black is winning?
GoKlaus [4k\]: 75-85
godman [1k\]: about 80
zazie [-\]: 80 points
Santa [5k\]: 10 + 10 + 50
lurchi [15k?\]: same at the left
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(;B[ii]CR[ii]
;W[ji]CR[ji]
;B[hi]CR[hi]
;W[hk]CR[hk]
(;B[lm]CR[lm]
;W[pp]CR[pp]
;B[qp]CR[qp]C[eminent [13k\]: score estimator says black by 50 pts
eminent [13k\]: haha
dr [8k\]: eminent: hehe
StarLight [13k\]: black is winning
Korenn [8k\]: =\]
LithiumTwo [13k\]: never believe Socre Est
Scribe [?\]: big black mistake
PepboyGo [-\]: q2
Hu [9k\]: 5.5
p7a77 [10k\]: q2
yuri [4k\]: q2
Tweenie [-\]: Q2 next
zazie [-\]: oooops
Charisma18 [9k\]: q2
Kikuchyo [?\]: iw
flydog [3k\]: Q2
]
;W[pr]CR[pr]
;B[qq]CR[qq]C[vosje [17k\]: q2
lefuet [10k\]: q2
moichido [14k?\]: q2
LithiumTwo [13k\]: Q2
]
;W[os]CR[os]TR[de]C[lefuet [10k\]: p1
Bardock [5k\]: q2
agui [5k\]: q2
zazie [-\]: poor black
godman [1k\]: black will crazy
Scribe [?\]: devestates black
moichido [14k?\]: making eyes
agui [5k\]: ok
p7a77 [10k\]: thank you very much
DocNo [11k\]: thx
Hu [9k\]: Thank you
Korenn [8k\]: thank you!
eminent [13k\]: thank you
bangabongo [19k\]: THANK YOU!\\
IceApple [?\]: thx
tibra [12k?\]: thank you
vosje [17k\]: thanks very much!
godman [1k\]: xiexie 
suchmi [9k\]: thank you very much
moichido [14k?\]: thx =)))
rhubarb [11k\]: thanks
Harleqin [4k\]: thanks
ape [12k\]: thanks a lot
Bardock [5k\]: thx
vince [5k\]: thx
GMF [12k?\]: thank you very much.
godo123 [-\]: thank you very much
DrizztDo [13k\]: hx
Meldor [9k\]: thx
brx [11k\]: thank a lot
yapee [9k?\]: thanks
ihgo [7k\]: thanks
zee [5k\]: thank you very much
puimakzz [17k?\]: thank you
agui [5k\]: Thank you very much
dr [8k\]: thank you guojuan
ulven [13k\]: Thanks
iru [8k?\]: thank you very much
RikiTiki [6k\]: thank you
godman [1k\]: ..........................xiexie 
Morphi [6k\]: thank you
play4fun [2k\]: thank you
Ambivlnce [13k\]: Thank you.
godman [1k\]: ..........................xiexie 
BrunnenG [15k?\]: thank you
LithiumTwo [13k\]: thankyou
kjp [4k\]: tak
Charisma18 [9k\]: thank you!
godman [1k\]: ..........................xiexie 
johnson [2d?\]: Thank you
Wook [-\]: Thank you very much *bows*
Bodo212 [11k\]: thx
def [?\]: thank you very much
capra [12k?\]: thank you very much
pepermite [7k\]: thx you
Rollo [25k\]: thx
Scribe [?\]: Thank you very much GuoJuan and MingJui
Hunternet [12k\]: thank you :)
grmaster [9k\]: thanx
borsuk [12k\]: Thx
gomme [15k\]: thank
bolbi [10k\]: thank you :-)
StoneSage [18k\]: thanks
abbadan [17k?\]: Thank you very much
DiThi [23k?\]: thanks!!
lurchi [15k?\]: thx
bourrette [6k\]: merci beaucoup
agui [5k\]: yes sure
moichido [14k?\]: xiexie cu
DonnieD [15k\]: thank you
PepboyGo [-\]: before q3, was n6 a good threat?
godman [1k\]: ..........................xiexie  guojuan
Hunternet [12k\]: yes
godman [1k\]: ..........................xiexie  guojuan
eminent [13k\]: yup
ueno [?\]: game over! :(
iru [8k?\]: sound is fine
lurchi [15k?\]: fine
jantiff [-\]: thanks, see you
Scribe [?\]: yes we do
vosje [17k\]: yes, sound is perfect
dr [8k\]: yes, very good
Morphi [6k\]: no its ok
Osiris [7k\]: thank you
Bardock [5k\]: not fast
Hu [9k\]: Good sound
RikiTiki [6k\]: it is fine
Korenn [8k\]: clearly
rhubarb [11k\]: no 
schokonick [19k\]: sound is ok
zee [5k\]: clearly
spingle [8k\]: thankyou ;)
moichido [14k?\]: it's clear
godo123 [-\]: very clear
Bardock [5k\]: ok
brx [11k\]: nice and clear
GMF [12k?\]: loed and clear
eminent [13k\]: it's fine
Scribe [?\]: xiexie
GMF [12k?\]: ^^
ape [12k\]: perfect
Shinrei [-\]: thank you very much ^^ myu =^^=
Hu [9k\]: It is ok
Charisma18 [9k\]: you are talking the right speed
ihgo [7k\]: ok
godman [1k\]: ..........................xiexie  guojuan
LithiumTwo [13k\]: no! you're fine!
def [?\]: no, very good
tibra [12k?\]: fine !
Bardock [5k\]: its clear
DonnieD [15k\]: is ok
eternal [?\]: thnks
spingle [8k\]: not fast, loud and lcear
kjp [4k\]: sound very good
Bodo212 [11k\]: yes can hear
Hu [9k\]: Comprehensible.
pedro69 [12k\]: thanks
agui [5k\]: clear
rhubarb [11k\]: bye bye
Bardock [5k\]: thx
eminent [13k\]: cya
play4fun [2k\]: bye bye
ihgo [7k\]: bye
Morphi [6k\]: cu 
schokonick [19k\]: cu
pepermite [7k\]: bye
IceApple [?\]: bb
yapee [9k?\]: bye
suchmi [9k\]: bye bye
vosje [17k\]: c u 
Hu [9k\]: Au revoir.
iru [8k?\]: bye
kjp [4k\]: cu next week
Kikuchyo [?\]: excellent lecture guojuan
moichido [14k?\]: byebye =)
puimakzz [17k?\]: bye
GMF [12k?\]: k nice week then
Charisma18 [9k\]: see ya!
pedro69 [12k\]: bye
BrunnenG [15k?\]: cu
Tweenie [-\]: lectures are fine.  Not too fast.
johnson [2d?\]: bye
agui [5k\]: See you
st85st327 [10k\]: bye!
abbadan [17k?\]: c u
bourrette [6k\]: au revoir
tibra [12k?\]: good bye
eternal [?\]: bye
GMF [12k?\]: cya
plonk [16k\]: thx
vosje [17k\]: bye
GMF [12k?\]: ^^
zee [5k\]: bye
agui [5k\]: bye
vosje [17k\]: good night
moichido [14k?\]: hehe c u =)
ArekM [10k\]: it was pleasure to hear you
Scribe [?\]: au revior
kjp [4k\]: bye
Rollo [25k\]: bye
GMF [12k?\]: byyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
grmaster [9k\]: good bye
lurchi [15k?\]: bye
zazie [-\]: bye Miss Guo :)
Kikuchyo [?\]: bye
puimakzz [17k?\]: bye
ArekM [10k\]: bye
Shinrei [-\]: miaou ^^
Scribe [?\]: did someone ask about last week's lecture?
moichido [14k?\]: have a good time !
ueno [?\]: adios
puimakzz [17k?\]: yes scribe
]
;B[ir]CR[ir]
;W[gr]CR[gr]
;B[ls]CR[ls]
;W[ns]CR[ns]
;B[hr]CR[hr]
;W[fs]CR[fs]
;B[js]CR[js]
;W[qc]CR[qc]
;B[qr]CR[qr]
;W[re]CR[re]
;B[mn]CR[mn]
;W[no]CR[no])
(;B[ln]CR[ln]
;W[pp]CR[pp]
;B[qq]CR[qq]
;W[qp]CR[qp]
;B[qn]CR[qn]
;W[rp]CR[rp]
;B[rq]CR[rq]
;W[lm]CR[lm]
;B[km]CR[km]
;W[mn]CR[mn]))
(;B[]
;W[qc]CR[qc]C[godman [1k\]: conner
]
;B[pc]CR[pc]
;W[qb]CR[qb]
;B[re]CR[re]
;W[sc]CR[sc]C[godman [1k\]: maybe ko
Scribe [?\]: white 90, 80 in top left, 10 below
flydog [3k\]: no ko
dr [8k\]: tripod group
]
;B[ic]CR[ic]
(;W[qp]CR[qp])
(;W[pp]CR[pp]
;B[qq]CR[qq]C[GMF [12k?\]: c7
]
;W[qp]CR[qp]TR[la][lf][sf][sl]C[pepermite [7k\]: 90
moichido [14k?\]: 85
Tweenie [-\]: white leads for sure
eminent [13k\]: w
Harleqin [4k\]: white
Morphi [6k\]: w
vosje [17k\]: white
GMF [12k?\]: w with kiomi
moichido [14k?\]: w
Igo1 [3k\]: w
Igo1 [3k\]: w
agui [5k\]: white
Bardock [5k\]: white
LithiumTwo [13k\]: yeah
Scribe [?\]: white is better for sure
])))
(;W[iq]CR[iq]
;B[ir]CR[ir]C[lefuet [10k\]: k2
]
(;W[mr]CR[mr]C[GoKlaus [4k\]: k2
eminent [13k\]: nono
Bardock [5k\]: never mind
eminent [13k\]: H2
]
;B[kr]CR[kr])
(;W[jr]CR[jr]
;B[kr]CR[kr]C[dr [8k\]: h2 then k2 or vice versa
godman [1k\]: h2
]
;W[hr]CR[hr]C[GMF [12k?\]: h2
Hunternet [12k\]: H2 now
]
;B[js]CR[js]
;W[gr]CR[gr]C[jantiff [-\]: ^^
godman [1k\]: should h2 first
])))
(;B[iq]CR[iq]C[GMF [12k?\]: w lives
Scribe [?\]: must connect
ArekM [10k\]: ok
agui [5k\]: ok
]
;W[kr]CR[kr]
;B[jr]CR[jr]
;W[lr]CR[lr]
;B[hr]CR[hr]))
(;B[ip]CR[ip]
;W[io]CR[io]C[tibra [12k?\]: ok
]
;B[hn]CR[hn]
;W[ho]CR[ho]
;B[jr]CR[jr]))
(;W[iq]CR[iq]C[Scribe [?\]: see abc's of attack and defense, michael redmond
]
;B[ip]CR[ip]
;W[jq]CR[jq]C[bangabongo [19k\]: g6
Bardock [5k\]: h5
GMF [12k?\]: h5
playgo [3k\]: H5 works
godman [1k\]: ladder
GoKlaus [4k\]: h5
moichido [14k?\]: g6 ?
dr [8k\]: L2?
ivoSF [5k\]: ladder
Harleqin [4k\]: ladder
]
(;B[gn]CR[gn]C[photobug [-\]: h5, ladder
yapee [9k?\]: h5
Charisma18 [9k\]: h5
]
;W[ho]CR[ho]
;B[io]CR[io]
;W[hn]CR[hn]
;B[hm]CR[hm]
;W[in]CR[in]C[bangabongo [19k\]: ah\\
GMF [12k?\]: h5!!!!!!!
eminent [13k\]: H5
])
(;B[ho]CR[ho]
;W[gn]CR[gn]C[yapee [9k?\]: h6
ArekM [10k\]: h6
lefuet [10k\]: h6
GMF [12k?\]: h6
photobug [-\]: h6
Hunternet [12k\]: H6
GoKlaus [4k\]: h6
eminent [13k\]: extend on emore
Bardock [5k\]: h6
]
;B[hn]CR[hn]C[vosje [17k\]: h6
]
;W[gm]CR[gm]
;B[gl]CR[gl]C[ArekM [10k\]: g8
Santa [5k\]: push from behind ;->
])))
(;W[fp]CR[fp]C[Scribe [?\]: this is homework why should white connect at f4
]))
(;B[cq]CR[cq]C[Scribe [?\]: too many cutting points in black shape if black f5
]
;W[cr]CR[cr]
;B[cp]CR[cp]
;W[er]CR[er]
;B[cl]CR[cl]C[bangabongo [19k\]: yay c 8!
]
;W[jq]CR[jq]
;B[iq]CR[iq]
;W[kr]CR[kr]C[moichido [14k?\]: nice
]
;B[hm]CR[hm]))
(;W[jq]CR[jq]
;B[iq]CR[iq]
;W[kr]CR[kr]C[Tweenie [-\]: C3
evilpixie [8k\]: sente
]
(;B[ip]CR[ip]C[bangabongo [19k\]: c3
godman [1k\]: conner
swordsplay [10k\]: play corner
])
(;B[cq]CR[cq]C[Charisma18 [9k\]: attack corner
GMF [12k?\]: attackin the corner
Scribe [?\]: very good!
]
;W[ip]CR[ip]
;B[hp]CR[hp]
;W[jo]CR[jo]C[trestles [2d\]: sente sente sente!
playgo [3k\]: D2 
PepboyGo [-\]: e3?
Santa [5k\]: take sente
bangabongo [19k\]: c8
]
;B[dr]CR[dr]C[Ubiquity [1d?\]: kill d3!
PepboyGo [-\]: oo
godman [1k\]: white is stronger + stonger, no efficent
Charisma18 [9k\]: eat my sente
])))
(;B[jq]CR[jq]))
(;W[qp]CR[qp]C[zazie [-\]: white have eye shape
])
(;W[pp]CR[pp]C[Scribe [?\]: attacking strength is not the way\\
]
;B[qp]CR[qp]C[godman [1k\]: even can fight back
]))
(;B[ih]CR[ih]
;W[jg]CR[jg]
;B[jh]CR[jh]
;W[kf]CR[kf]C[Scribe [?\]: black shape is wrong both m11 and m12 are weaknesses
]
(;B[lf]CR[lf])
(;B[lg]CR[lg])))
(;B[hg]CR[hg]
;W[if]CR[if]
;B[ig]CR[ig]
;W[jf]CR[jf]))
(;B[gh]CR[gh]C[godman [1k\]: clear base of b
]
;W[hf]CR[hf]
;B[ih]CR[ih]
;W[jf]CR[jf]
;B[kh]CR[kh]
;W[lf]CR[lf]C[GMF [12k?\]: the nice moyo
GMF [12k?\]: -.-
zazie [-\]: white come in the moyo :( snif
Scribe [?\]: run, split, run, split, destroys the moyo
godman [1k\]: so what's the choice for both
Marlix [10k\]: how to defend black j15?
Charisma18 [9k\]: threaten
GMF [12k?\]: but cannot black counter with j15 now?!
Scribe [?\]: profit from attacking...killing is hard, profiting from attack is easier 
Marlix [10k\]: what about black j15?
moichido [14k?\]: yes
dr [8k\]: yes
Bardock [5k\]: yes
godman [1k\]: yes
agui [5k\]: yes
]))
(;B[cc]CR[cc]C[Scribe [?\]: white play is too soft
Scribe [?\]: black makes eyes immediately
swordsplay [10k\]: weak
swordsplay [10k\]: make eyes
yapee [9k?\]: tsuke
moichido [14k?\]: defend
Wook [-\]: make a base
bourrette [6k\]: musculation
Korenn [8k\]: eyes
GMF [12k?\]: escape
edlee [11k\]: attach
godman [1k\]: pretect self
Bardock [5k\]: get stronger
]
;W[cb]CR[cb]C[Staer [7k\]: slow
lurchi [15k?\]: defend
]
;B[cd]CR[cd]
;W[bb]CR[bb]
;B[ch]CR[ch]C[zazie [-\]: yep
agui [5k\]: yes
moichido [14k?\]: yep
hakkl [18k?\]: yes
Scribe [?\]: much too soft, black is nearly alive
Tweenie [-\]: H16 is not used like this
GMF [12k?\]: yo
Bardock [5k\]: yes
Korenn [8k\]: yes!
moichido [14k?\]: yep
lurchi [15k?\]: ok
Staer [7k\]: yes
pedro69 [12k\]: yes
Morphi [6k\]: yes
agui [5k\]: yes
thomen [12k?\]: tak
Bardock [5k\]: yes
GMF [12k?\]: can be
Staer [7k\]: yes
tiger [3d\]: right
puimakzz [17k?\]: yes
Bardock [5k\]: heh heh
moichido [14k?\]: guojuan gimme some of your tea
moichido [14k?\]: pls
Korenn [8k\]: moichido: sssh ;)
Santa [5k\]: behave moichido 
moichido [14k?\]: =)))
godman [1k\]: b14 ?
GMF [12k?\]: ESCAPE!!!!!
Marlix [10k\]: dont yell
puimakzz [17k?\]: run away
godman [1k\]: run 
]))
(;W[cd]CR[cd]C[godo123 [-\]: 3,3 important
playgo [3k\]: E17  instead of E16 ?
LithiumTwo [13k\]: Just lost sound
dr [8k\]: fixed
LithiumTwo [13k\]: Audoo!
zazie [-\]: we hear you
Staer [7k\]: Back now\\
hakkl [18k?\]: audio back
iru [8k?\]: sound on
tiger [3d\]: audio back :)
moichido [14k?\]: sound back
Wook [-\]: time for white to switch to plan b :)
]
(;B[fe]CR[fe]C[Charisma18 [9k\]: .......moyo..?
zazie [-\]: yep
moichido [14k?\]: no audio :(
Santa [5k\]: don't panic
GMF [12k?\]: sound there
yapee [9k?\]: works
playgo [3k\]: back
]
;W[gc]CR[gc]C[Korenn [8k\]: the black moyo on the right.
Charisma18 [9k\]: what is moyo?
]
;B[he]CR[he]
;W[ie]CR[ie]C[Santa [5k\]: moyo = influence
yapee [9k?\]: potential territory
swordsplay [10k\]: territorial framework
Hu [9k\]: big framework
Charisma18 [9k\]: ok
dr [8k\]: charisma - territorial framework
zazie [-\]: http://senseis.xmp.net/?Moyo
GMF [12k?\]: moyo can be later trerritory
Charisma18 [9k\]: thanks
tiger [3d\]: when w gets j15, it reduces b potential
Wook [-\]: Please see senseis.xmp.net for basic terms
yapee [9k?\]: we too! ;-\]
Marlix [10k\]: .
swordsplay [10k\]: no audio
moichido [14k?\]: sound ???
Staer [7k\]: Just lost sound
dr [8k\]: just lost audio stream
GMF [12k?\]: sound?!
hakkl [18k?\]: sound
tibra [12k?\]: lost sound
thomen [12k?\]: no sound
Scribe [?\]: no sound
]
;B[id]CR[id]
;W[if]CR[if])
(;B[ec]CR[ec]C[Staer [7k\]: ok
]
(;W[dd]CR[dd]
;B[ed]CR[ed]
;W[ee]CR[ee]
(;B[gd]CR[gd]C[eminent [13k\]: harness the power of the empty triangle
]
(;W[ef]CR[ef]C[moichido [14k?\]: k
Tweenie [-\]: E14
]
;B[hc]CR[hc])
(;W[he]CR[he]C[schimo [2d\]: e14
godman [1k\]: e14
Meldor [9k\]: e14
]
(;B[fe]CR[fe]C[Scribe [?\]: attach then hane
]
;W[ef]CR[ef]
;B[ff]CR[ff]
;W[eg]CR[eg]C[playgo [3k\]: E14 F15 G15 ?
zazie [-\]: 2 liberties way
jantiff [-\]: b E14
])
(;B[ef]CR[ef]
;W[fe]CR[fe]
;B[ge]CR[ge]
;W[ff]CR[ff]
;B[gf]CR[gf]
;W[fg]CR[fg]C[bourrette [6k\]: driving!
Tweenie [-\]: driving Tesuji
]
;B[hf]CR[hf]C[moichido [14k?\]: lol
godman [1k\]: w hurted 
])))
(;B[fe]CR[fe]
;W[ef]CR[ef]
;B[gd]CR[gd]
;W[he]CR[he]
;B[ff]CR[ff]
;W[eg]CR[eg]C[Scribe [?\]: not good for black, again it is pushing from behind
]))
(;W[ed]CR[ed]C[GMF [12k?\]: but strange
]
;B[dd]CR[dd]C[vosje [17k\]: but very bad sound
GMF [12k?\]: ^^
]
;W[cc]CR[cc]
;B[fd]CR[fd]C[edouardo [12k\]: i got robotized sound :)
GMF [12k?\]: me as well
Charisma18 [9k\]: C3PO
p7a77 [10k\]: black
vosje [17k\]: :))
moichido [14k?\]: black
Staer [7k\]: Black
zazie [-\]: difficult...
Charisma18 [9k\]: r2d2
Staer [7k\]: Yes
Bardock [5k\]: black
pepermite [7k\]: ok
vosje [17k\]: very bad
BrunnenG [15k?\]: sound is poor
DrGoPlayer [5k\]: yes
swordsplay [10k\]: sound is good
bangabongo [19k\]: yes
Bardock [5k\]: yes
Korenn [8k\]: sound ok now
Santa [5k\]: we can hear you
Morphi [6k\]: yes
tiger [3d\]: yes we hear you
vosje [17k\]: sound is bad
GMF [12k?\]: hear you yes, but strange spound
suchmi [9k\]: quite bad
moichido [14k?\]: sound is poor
rhubarb [11k\]: black good
Tweenie [-\]: bad sound
Saiya [4k\]: w F17 ?
godman [1k\]: complex ladder
zazie [-\]: looks good for black
brx [11k\]: so so
kencabbit [11k\]: poor sound but can hear words n.n
DrGoPlayer [5k\]: sound ok
Charisma18 [9k\]: you sound like R2D2
bourrette [6k\]: sounds like c3po in star wars
notowuri [2d\]: good 4 white
Harleqin [4k\]: good for black
eminent [13k\]: ladder works
GMF [12k?\]: from starwars
eminent [13k\]: oh
eminent [13k\]: nono
dr [8k\]: much better
godman [1k\]: good for black 
zazie [-\]: ok it's good now
eminent [13k\]: doesn't work
moichido [14k?\]: for black
eminent [13k\]: white
zee [5k\]: better sound now
zazie [-\]: for black
hum [7k?\]: B
johnson [2d?\]: black
Tweenie [-\]: black
puimakzz [17k?\]: white
bangabongo [19k\]: w
DrizztDo [13k\]: b
godman [1k\]: turn ladder in middle
Ubiquity [1d?\]: black
hakkl [18k?\]: for white
DocNo [11k\]: whaite
]
;W[ee]CR[ee]
;B[ef]CR[ef]
;W[fe]CR[fe]C[Harleqin [4k\]: yes because of o6
]
;B[ge]CR[ge]
;W[ff]CR[ff]C[GMF [12k?\]: does not work
]
;B[fg]CR[fg]
;W[gf]CR[gf]
;B[hf]CR[hf]
;W[gg]CR[gg]
;B[gh]CR[gh]
;W[hg]CR[hg]
;B[ig]CR[ig]
;W[hh]CR[hh]
;B[hi]CR[hi]
;W[ih]CR[ih]
;B[jh]CR[jh]
;W[ii]CR[ii]
;B[ij]CR[ij]
;W[ji]CR[ji]
;B[ki]CR[ki]
;W[jj]CR[jj]
;B[jk]CR[jk]
;W[kj]CR[kj]
;B[lj]CR[lj]
;W[kk]CR[kk]
;B[kl]CR[kl]
;W[lk]CR[lk]C[GMF [12k?\]: yes
]
(;B[mk]CR[mk]C[playgo [3k\]: ladder works :-)
]
;W[ll]CR[ll]
;B[lm]CR[lm]
;W[ml]CR[ml]C[Charisma18 [9k\]: "oops"
moichido [14k?\]: yip
lurchi [15k?\]: y
eminent [13k\]: oh
zazie [-\]: ok
])
(;B[ll]CR[ll]C[playgo [3k\]: longer ladder
]
;W[mk]CR[mk]
;B[nk]CR[nk]
;W[ml]CR[ml]
;B[nn]CR[nn]C[godman [1k\]: change the ladder to anther
]
;W[mm]CR[mm]
;B[mn]CR[mn]
;W[lm]CR[lm]
;B[km]CR[km]C[GMF [12k?\]: lol
]
;W[ln]CR[ln]
;B[lo]CR[lo]C[bangabongo [19k\]: awesome
]
;W[kn]CR[kn]
;B[jn]CR[jn]
;W[ko]CR[ko]C[Santa [5k\]: wow
Charisma18 [9k\]: that's cool!
]
;B[kp]CR[kp]
;W[jo]CR[jo]
;B[io]CR[io]
;W[jp]CR[jp]
;B[jq]CR[jq]
;W[ip]CR[ip]
;B[hp]CR[hp]
;W[iq]CR[iq]
;B[ir]CR[ir]
;W[hq]CR[hq]
;B[gq]CR[gq]
;W[hr]CR[hr]
;B[gr]CR[gr]C[Levi [11k\]: thats amazing
Meldor [9k\]: jajaja
bangabongo [19k\]: hahahaha
GloiraZEBU [3k?\]: so sexy ladder
moichido [14k?\]: right
tiger [3d\]: hehe
hakkl [18k?\]: yyes
eminent [13k\]: yeah
agui [5k\]: very nice !!!
GMF [12k?\]: never saw some ladder of that kind
bangabongo [19k\]: i woulda ran that as white for sure
puimakzz [17k?\]: wow lol
playgo [3k\]: nice moyo :-)
iru [8k?\]: fantastic!
abbadan [17k?\]: :)))
Santa [5k\]: maybe for christmas
godman [1k\]: turn direction two times
Hu [9k\]: Kageyama's first lesson is "always read ladders!"
])))
(;B[ed]CR[ed]C[GMF [12k?\]: not happy is nice to say it
]
;W[ec]CR[ec]C[Scribe [?\]: normally the best move
]
;B[fd]CR[fd]
;W[gb]CR[gb]
;B[he]CR[he]
;W[ie]CR[ie]C[agui [5k\]: ok
Scribe [?\]: fight will be difficult for black
]))
(;W[dg]CR[dg]C[Bardock [5k\]: c16
tiger [3d\]: c16
yuri [4k\]: c14
]
;B[cc]CR[cc]C[Scribe [?\]: attacking the corner 3x3 is important
])
(;W[ce]CR[ce]C[ludistone [1d\]: ok
]
(;B[dd]CR[dd]
;W[cd]CR[cd]C[Scribe [?\]: black is out and attacking white
]
;B[ec]CR[ec]C[Scribe [?\]: often yields eyes at 3x3
Santa [5k\]: poor H16
pedro69 [12k\]: y
]
;W[cf]CR[cf]C[dr [8k\]: makes H16 weak
iru [8k?\]: yes
]
;B[ge]CR[ge]
;W[he]CR[he]C[moichido [14k?\]: yip
]
;B[hf]CR[hf]C[GMF [12k?\]: yes
lurchi [15k?\]: y
Staer [7k\]: Contact moves too soft
agui [5k\]: yes
Bardock [5k\]: yes
Korenn [8k\]: yes
])
(;B[cf]CR[cf]C[Scribe [?\]: c15 is a risky move
]
;W[cd]CR[cd]TR[hd][cj][ej]C[dr [8k\]: wrong way for b?
]))
(;W[cg]CR[cg]C[playgo [3k\]: E16 
]))
(;W[mj]CR[mj]C[manakem10 [10k\]: can anyone send me script of last lecture?
manakem10 [10k\]: ok thanks
godman [1k\]: s16 test black
]
;B[ni]CR[ni]
;W[mi]CR[mi]
;B[nh]CR[nh]C[Scribe [?\]: ask at end of lecture today
]
;W[qc]CR[qc]
;B[pc]CR[pc]
;W[qb]CR[qb]
;B[re]CR[re]C[godman [1k\]: S16 is last chance , otherwise miss it
]
;W[sc]CR[sc]))
(;W[mj]CR[mj]C[Fatality [16k?\]: why w play C10 instead of K16 ?
GMF [12k?\]: but now, white has big moyo
Scribe [?\]: pushing from behind is bad, game will get better for white as a result
]))
(;B[qp]CR[qp]C[juras [?\]: can anybody write down what is guojuan saying?
]))
(;W[pp]CR[pp]
;B[qp]CR[qp]C[evilpixie [8k\]: r3
])
(;W[qp]CR[qp]
;B[pp]CR[pp]
;W[qn]CR[qn]
;B[ro]CR[ro]
;W[rn]CR[rn]
;B[rp]CR[rp]
;W[op]CR[op]
;B[qq]CR[qq]))
(;B[pp]CR[pp]C[iru [8k?\]: yes
Nitrose [24k\]: yea
]
(;W[op]CR[op]C[Scribe [?\]: better
]
;B[qo]CR[qo]TR[op][nq][oq]C[hugogogo [5k\]: b better
Scribe [?\]: push at o2 is mistake
Staer [7k\]: ugh
Scribe [?\]: connecting all stones is very big
godman [1k\]: so good for black
Scribe [?\]: white has inefficient shape
GMF [12k?\]: agree
Bardock [5k\]: yes
moichido [14k?\]: yea
Charisma18 [9k\]: yes
])
(;W[qo]CR[qo]
;B[op]CR[op]
;W[np]CR[np]
;B[oo]CR[oo]
;W[no]CR[no]
;B[pn]CR[pn]C[godman [1k\]: poor w
eminent [13k\]: see, yummy
])
(;W[qn]CR[qn]
;B[op]CR[op]
;W[np]CR[np]
;B[nr]CR[nr]
;W[lq]CR[lq]
;B[no]CR[no]
;W[oo]CR[oo]
;B[mo]CR[mo]
;W[lp]CR[lp]
;B[nn]CR[nn]
;W[qp]CR[qp]
;B[qq]CR[qq]
;W[rp]CR[rp]
;B[rn]CR[rn]
;W[rr]CR[rr]
;B[rq]CR[rq]
;W[sq]CR[sq]C[Scribe [?\]: white will die here
]
;B[pr]CR[pr]
;W[mr]CR[mr]
;B[pm]CR[pm]
;W[rm]CR[rm]C[godman [1k\]: w 2 b 3
]
;B[pn]CR[pn]
;W[qo]CR[qo]
;B[rl]CR[rl]
;W[ns]CR[ns]
(;B[sm]CR[sm]
;W[os]CR[os]
;B[ro]CR[ro]
;W[sp]CR[sp]
;B[sr]CR[sr]
;W[ss]CR[ss]
;B[so]CR[so]
;W[sr]CR[sr]
;B[qr]CR[qr])
(;B[ro]CR[ro]
;W[sp]CR[sp]
;B[sr]CR[sr]
;W[ss]CR[ss]
;B[sm]CR[sm]C[Staer [7k\]: yes
Bardock [5k\]: yes
Hunternet [12k\]: yes
godman [1k\]: s7 good, we should learn
agui [5k\]: yes
moichido [14k?\]: b wins
]
;W[qr]CR[qr]C[GMF [12k?\]: yes
]
;B[so]CR[so]C[iru [8k?\]: black
]
;W[sr]CR[sr]
;B[qs]CR[qs]C[Otop [7k\]: b.
]))))
(;W[qn]CR[qn]
;B[rm]CR[rm]
;W[nq]CR[nq]
;B[nn]CR[nn]
;W[no]CR[no]
;B[mn]CR[mn]
;W[mo]CR[mo]
;B[ln]CR[ln]
;W[kp]CR[kp]
;B[jn]CR[jn]C[Scribe [?\]: joseki for moyo building by black
zazie [-\]: :-)
Baga [9k\]: ;)
GMF [12k?\]: but the bottom is now white
srjh [-\]: there is also possibility to live in corner later ?
]))
(;B[np]CR[np]
;W[qq]CR[qq]
;B[qr]CR[qr]
;W[qp]CR[qp]
;B[or]CR[or]
;W[qk]CR[qk]TR[oc][qd]C[ArekM [10k\]: she has nice voice :)
godman [1k\]: w
rhubarb [11k\]: w
GMF [12k?\]: better for white
Staer [7k\]: White
borsuk [12k\]: W
Nitrose [24k\]: good for white
zazie [-\]: for black ?
iru [8k?\]: white
agui [5k\]: for white
fahad [18k\]: w
Saiya [4k\]: w
zazie [-\]: oups 
thomen [12k?\]: w
Saiya [4k\]: r16
ivoSF [5k\]: d3 low
godman [1k\]: live easy in black
rhubarb [11k\]: lives in black space
Staer [7k\]: Get's to play near Q10
eminent [13k\]: black is crammed
moichido [14k?\]: black can be shrunk
zazie [-\]: but if black play R11 ?
ArekM [10k\]: :)
agui [5k\]: black loses potential on the right
borsuk [12k\]: black cant play r10
GMF [12k?\]: first, the expnsion is not possible anymore.
iru [8k?\]: blackl thickness top right is reduced in use
])
(;B[pl]CR[pl])
(;B[pm]CR[pm])
(;B[pk]CR[pk]TR[oc][qd]C[Scribe [?\]: Good for White.  The powerful upper right corner must be used to advantage
Scribe [?\]: Must pincer!  
agui [5k\]: but not r9 , right ?
Tweenie [-\]: what about R5 instead of pincer ?
])
(;B[qo]CR[qo]
;W[qn]CR[qn]
;B[qp]CR[qp]
;W[pm]CR[pm]
(;B[nq]CR[nq]
;W[qi]CR[qi]C[Snuva [19k?\]: white
Nitrose [24k\]: white
puimakzz [17k?\]: w
Staer [7k\]: White
DrizztDo [13k\]: w
Bardock [5k\]: white
eminent [13k\]: white
StoneSage [18k\]: good for white
GMF [12k?\]: both
fahad [18k\]: white
agui [5k\]: white
pedro69 [12k\]: w
godman [1k\]: god 4 w
moichido [14k?\]: even
zazie [-\]: i prefer black but..
eminent [13k\]: same idea
srjh [-\]: q10 instead o3 ?
eminent [13k\]: isn't Q6 better?
eminent [13k\]: more solid
Scribe [?\]: too easy on white, not using upper right power
])
(;B[pj]CR[pj]
;W[oq]CR[oq]
;B[pp]CR[pp]
;W[op]CR[op]
;B[oo]CR[oo]
;W[pn]CR[pn]
;B[no]CR[no]
;W[or]CR[or]
;B[pr]CR[pr]
;W[lq]CR[lq])))