(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1800]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[guojuan]PB[guojuan]WR[5p]BR[5p]DT[2004-11-21]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]AW[kc][oc][dd][ck][om][pm][pn][qo][np][pp][qp][qq]AB[qd][pe][on][no][oo][po][cp][ep][op][kq][oq][pq]LB[fc:D][qi:C][cm:E][nm:A][hq:B]C[Melancthon [12k\]: hi
Heretix [15k?\]: yep
Spark5309 [11k\]: yes
Bardock [4k\]: yes
melany [3k\]: yes
tjip [?\]: yes! :D
mingyaod [13k\]: yes
Codexus [9k\]: yes
QI [6k?\]: hi, yes
postmanpat [8k\]: yes
Melancthon [12k\]: yes
tiger1 [8k\]: yes
Scribe [?\]: Yes we do
kjp [5k\]: yes
eternal [?\]: yes
Spark5309 [11k\]: clear
hakkl [18k\]: yes
FireFox04 [13k\]: yes
Bardock [4k\]: clear
agui [5k\]: Hello
Bodo212 [12k\]: now yes
tjip [?\]: crystal ^^
Scribe [?\]: yes you do
Lilltiger [19k\]: yhee
Codexus [9k\]: perfectly clear
mailinh [7k\]: YES
Nadya [26k?\]: hi
QI [6k?\]: no problem
Nadya [26k?\]: its ok
tjip [?\]: sounds the same as last weak (= good)
amigo [13k\]: chicken soup !!
Spark5309 [11k\]: ok
agui [5k\]: ok
kjp [5k\]: ok
Nadya [26k?\]: yes
Bodo212 [12k\]: yes
tjip [?\]: np
LithiumTwo [13k\]: ok
DrGoPlayer [5k\]: echinacia
Nadya [26k?\]: ok
Bardock [4k\]: its ok
Scribe [?\]: Problem: Black to play
abbadan [17k?\]: b
Nadya [26k?\]: с
xbubu [17k\]: D
QI [6k?\]: c
guojuan [5p\]: b to play 
FireFox04 [13k\]: C
mmm1 [?\]: a
Stav [6k?\]: C
LithiumTwo [13k\]: c
patanjali0 [4k\]: c
R15S [12k\]: D
melany [3k\]: c
Codexus [9k\]: C
Bodo212 [12k\]: C
meerkat [7k\]: c
hakkl [18k\]: c
amigo [13k\]: c
tjip [?\]: c
seku [17k\]: C
Spark5309 [11k\]: d
Bardock [4k\]: C
Heretix [15k?\]: C
Ambivlnce [13k\]: c
Melancthon [12k\]: c
Scribe [?\]: C help weak stones
kjp [5k\]: C, make black strong
evilGOer [17k?\]: c
QI [6k?\]: c to make the group safe
Scribe [?\]: create base
lurchi [15k?\]: c
noluck [1d\]: C11 
MoyoJojo [16k\]: lol
lefuet [10k\]: d
Tweenie [-\]: D
mailinh [7k\]: c
Scribe [?\]: slow, very slow
]
(;B[nm]CR[nm]
;W[gq]CR[gq]C[nicegame [6k\]: q15 / r16 are still weak
])
(;B[hq]CR[hq]C[R15S [12k\]: D
Scribe [?\]: covers white's head, but plays from black's thickness, ignoring weak stones in upper right,
melany [3k\]: slow
tjip [?\]: too concentrated
whome [2k\]: too low
kjp [5k\]: over concentrated
QI [6k?\]: only makes points
Codexus [9k\]: not urgent?
FireFox04 [13k\]: too low
Heretix [15k?\]: too conservative
patanjali0 [4k\]: low
amigo [13k\]: overconcentrated
Lilltiger [19k\]: white will play around R11
LithiumTwo [13k\]: not urgent
])
(;B[hp]CR[hp]C[Melancthon [12k\]: top right more weak
Scribe [?\]: better than 'b'
])
(;B[qi]CR[qi]C[nicegame [6k\]: A is playing from strength (overconcentrated) = bad
DrGoPlayer [5k\]: H4 is better
nicegame [6k\]: B = big b but not urgend
hakkl [18k\]: yes
Heretix [15k?\]: yeah
Melancthon [12k\]: yes
LithiumTwo [13k\]: good
QI [6k?\]: best move
kjp [5k\]: helping weak stones
patanjali0 [4k\]: yes
Nadya [26k?\]: yes
FireFox04 [13k\]: yes
LithiumTwo [13k\]: I like C
stalkor [7k\]: good shape now
MoyoJojo [16k\]: C13
tjip [?\]: yes
Lilltiger [19k\]: still F17 is very good for white
Scribe [?\]: urgent, provides base to two weak stones, cant let white squeeze black 
Bodo212 [12k\]: q 11
Melancthon [12k\]: we still love you =)
]
(;W[]
;B[rm]CR[rm]C[patanjali0 [4k\]: no prob
Bodo212 [12k\]: aha
])
(;W[df]CR[df]))
(;B[cm]CR[cm]
(;W[ph]CR[ph])
(;W[ek]CR[ek]C[stalkor [7k\]: still playing from thickness
seku [17k\]: its only helping white?
]
;B[em]CR[em]
;W[gk]CR[gk]TR[ce][cf][cg][ch][ci][cj][cn][co]C[Heretix [15k?\]: white
Scribe [?\]: white is building territory faster
noluck [1d\]: what about B C11 instead of C14?
DrGoPlayer [5k\]: invade since w has bigger terr
melany [3k\]: but white is still open to invasion.
tjip [?\]: yes
Heretix [15k?\]: understood
Melancthon [12k\]: yes
Scribe [?\]: therefore invade, not build from outside
Codexus [9k\]: makes sense
agui [5k\]: yes
nicegame [6k\]: white is building bigger --> invade
Bodo212 [12k\]: yes
]))
(;B[cf]CR[cf])
(;B[fc]CR[fc]C[kjp [5k\]: please repeat
Scribe [?\]: big indeed, very big
Scribe [?\]: this is number 2 move
nicegame [6k\]: f17 = Nr. 2
Heretix [15k?\]: should white play H17 after this?
nicegame [6k\]: scribe, please use coordinates as well, thanks
tjip [?\]: yes
Bodo212 [12k\]: yes
Lilltiger [19k\]: yes
HngryHippo [9k\]: very clear
Nadya [26k?\]: yes
mailinh [7k\]: yes
Scribe [?\]: q11 more urgent
Spark5309 [11k\]: clear
Melancthon [12k\]: yes, right side more urgent
DrGoPlayer [5k\]: yes great guo juan
uno [7k?\]: but locally, what's the best response to F17?
]
(;W[])
(;W[ph]CR[ph]C[Heretix [15k?\]: ahh yes
Heretix [15k?\]: understood
patanjali0 [4k\]: yes
])
(;W[hc]CR[hc]
;B[cc]CR[cc]
;W[dc]CR[dc]
;B[cd]CR[cd]C[tjip [?\]: how dangerous is Q12 for black?
]
;W[de]CR[de]
;B[db]CR[db]
;W[eb]CR[eb]
;B[cb]CR[cb]
;W[ec]CR[ec]
;B[cf]CR[cf]
;W[ph]CR[ph]C[LithiumTwo [13k\]: very
Codexus [9k\]: yes
kjp [5k\]: yes
Heretix [15k?\]: yep
tjip [?\]: yes
Melancthon [12k\]: yes
Lilltiger [19k\]: yes
Bodo212 [12k\]: ok
agui [5k\]: yes
mailinh [7k\]: ok
LithiumTwo [13k\]: yeah
QI [6k?\]: b still has Q17 ?
Scribe [?\]: urgent moves, are the most important moves
evilGOer [17k?\]: thanks scribe & nice
])))