(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1800]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[guojuan]PB[guojuan]WR[5p]BR[5p]DT[2004-11-21]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]AW[gc][jc][oc][pk][dp][fp][mq][pq]AB[dc][qd][de][dh][dk][cn][no][qo]LB[pe:B][qg:A][cq:D][qq:C]TR[qd][pk][dp][fp][mq][pq]C[MoyoJojo [16k\]: where is my donkey
Uvas [12k?\]: wee!
Dreggo [4k\]: b has a favourable position=)
tjip [?\]: yes
Heretix [15k?\]: yep
Uvas [12k?\]: yes
Spark5309 [11k\]: yes
Dreggo [4k\]: yes
Melancthon [12k\]: yes
zee [5k?\]: y
QI [6k?\]: yes
agui [5k\]: yes
moichido [12k\]: yes
ReeZe [15k\]: yes
pepermite [7k\]: yes
Haikane [18k\]: yes
RedPrince [11k\]: yes
smuin [?\]: yes
Boudje100 [20k\]: jee :D
Wasserfall [4k\]: yes, hello
lurchi [15k?\]: upgrade
Uvas [12k?\]: ok
moichido [12k\]: update to 2.6.7 ???
lurchi [15k?\]: upgrade
Heretix [15k?\]: Maybe he needs to upgrade his KGS client?
tjip [?\]: ok :D
Spark5309 [11k\]: great
agui [5k\]: ok, thanks
DrGoPlayer [5k\]: thank you
MoyoJojo [16k\]: bless you
Melancthon [12k\]: hey, we have a doctor
MoyoJojo [16k\]: wow
Uvas [12k?\]: she fell down?
MoyoJojo [16k\]: " beatbox"
ReeZe [15k\]: lol
tjip [?\]: microphone is a bit close to the keyboard i guess
Heretix [15k?\]: no, typing...
Haikane [18k\]: hihio
amigo [13k\]: time for some more chicken soup :)
Boudje100 [20k\]: gaat niet echt lekker he....
DrGoPlayer [5k\]: i say echinacia for our teacher's cold
moichido [12k\]: A
ReeZe [15k\]: c
Boudje100 [20k\]: ghehe :P
pepermite [7k\]: A
lurchi [15k?\]: a
Wasserfall [4k\]: A
seku [17k\]: B
Spark5309 [11k\]: a
shaokhan [8k\]: a
swordsplay [10k\]: a
cocoon [13k\]: a
zee [5k?\]: a
xbubu [17k\]: a
hansb [2k\]: B
amigo [13k\]: a
LithiumTwo [13k\]: b
MoyoJojo [16k\]: A
smuin [?\]: a
QI [6k?\]: a
Heretix [15k?\]: A
Excel [29k?\]: a
tt [1d\]: A
LithiumTwo [13k\]: B
Bodo212 [12k\]: B to play?
cocoon [13k\]: a/b
agui [5k\]: A
lurchi [15k?\]: later
DonGogo [-\]: d
postmanpat [8k\]: b
monchacha [11k\]: a
tjip [?\]: A
MoyoJojo [16k\]: D
nicegame [6k\]: b
li92093 [4k\]: C
Melancthon [12k\]: I'll say c to be different =)
moichido [12k\]: A
Uvas [12k?\]: c
vince [5k\]: b
tjip [?\]: B looks good too
Lilltiger [19k\]: tengen :)
Scribe [?\]: Problem: Black toplay
MoyoJojo [16k\]: d
moichido [12k\]: A
Scribe [?\]: right side most important
QI [6k?\]: a defends and attacks
tjip [?\]: yes
cocoon [13k\]: P 17 is harder to attack because it can attach to R 16 .. so a
moichido [12k\]: yes
tjip [?\]: yes
lurchi [15k?\]: right
Bodo212 [12k\]: yes
kjp [5k\]: 3 stones in that area
Scribe [?\]: upper right quarter board is most open
nicegame [6k\]: help: cut the board in 4 pieces (in your mind), and see where are the fewest stones
MoyoJojo [16k\]: D is big
stalkor [7k\]: d is slow
Melancthon [12k\]: lol, I like the (in your mind) part nicegame
Bodo212 [12k\]: ok
nicegame [6k\]: ^^
stalkor [7k\]: A is great because it helps q9
Scribe [?\]: lower left is also quite open but these two stones (r16, q9) a could either attack or be attacked
MoyoJojo [16k\]: Q12
QI [6k?\]: A is also a nice move for white
DrGoPlayer [5k\]: marked stones can be attacked or attack
nicegame [6k\]: r14 ist better than r12, both in the right direction
tjip [?\]: yes
Bodo212 [12k\]: ok
Scribe [?\]: c3 not urgent
agui [5k\]: ok
Bodo212 [12k\]: ok
tjip [?\]: nah, irc
]
(;B[cq]CR[cq]
;W[cp]CR[cp]
;B[bp]CR[bp]C[Scribe [?\]: right side most urgent
]
(;W[qf]CR[qf]TR[qd][pk]C[Scribe [?\]: r12 is a little soft
])
(;W[qg]CR[qg]C[Scribe [?\]: white gets gote from bottom left
])
(;W[qh]CR[qh]C[Scribe [?\]: black gote from bottom left
]))
(;B[qq]CR[qq]C[LithiumTwo [13k\]: ok
Uvas [12k?\]: yay
]
;W[qr]CR[qr]
;B[pp]CR[pp]
;W[oq]CR[oq]C[kjp [5k\]: sente is important
Scribe [?\]: now take sente to play on right side (black takes sente)
Heretix [15k?\]: yup
]
(;B[rq]CR[rq]C[pepermite [7k\]: gote
moichido [12k\]: yes
Scribe [?\]: nice move, makes base for black
Melancthon [12k\]: k
agui [5k\]: is gote
Wasserfall [4k\]: yes
markKo [23k\]: yes
ReeZe [15k\]: yes
QI [6k?\]: too slow ?
tjip [?\]: S3 that important?
Lilltiger [19k\]: white got sente?
tjip [?\]: why not ignore S3 and move up right?
Scribe [?\]: but again it is gote for black and white attacks on the right side
stalkor [7k\]: lol i keep on hearing the computer of guo making sounds from the moves;p
]
;W[qg]CR[qg]C[LithiumTwo [13k\]: still doesn't help top right
Uvas [12k?\]: :(
Heretix [15k?\]: yep
Bodo212 [12k\]: ok
moichido [12k\]: yes
])
(;B[qg]CR[qg]))
(;B[qg]CR[qg]TR[no][qo][mq][pq]C[agui [5k\]: yes
tjip [?\]: yes
kjp [5k\]: yes
moichido [12k\]: clear
LithiumTwo [13k\]: yes
Spark5309 [11k\]: yes
Uvas [12k?\]: yup
Codexus [9k\]: yes
GrandYanII [7k?\]: Yes...
Melancthon [12k\]: yes
markKo [23k\]: yes
Bardock [4k\]: yes
Scribe [?\]: therefore black must create a base immediately and deny white a base by playing r13
DrGoPlayer [5k\]: now w stone has no nice move
melany [3k\]: how should white respond?
]
;W[qp]CR[qp]C[tjip [?\]: yep, msn ^^
QI [6k?\]: is R13 better then Q12 ?
Bardock [4k\]: lol
agui [5k\]: q5
hansb [2k\]: Q6
lurchi [15k?\]: s5
Melancthon [12k\]: r8?
DonGogo [-\]: q6
zee [5k?\]: S5
LithiumTwo [13k\]: q6
Scribe [?\]: how does black answer this white move (r4) ?
GrandYanII [7k?\]: q5
moichido [12k\]: r7 ?
postmanpat [8k\]: r6
]
(;B[po]CR[po])
(;B[op]CR[op]
;W[oq]CR[oq]
;B[rp]CR[rp]C[Melancthon [12k\]: ah
]
;W[rq]CR[rq]C[tjip [?\]: yes
moichido [12k\]: yes
seku [17k\]: y
Bardock [4k\]: yes
agui [5k\]: yes
Melancthon [12k\]: yes
Lilltiger [19k\]: yes
LithiumTwo [13k\]: yup
Wasserfall [4k\]: yes
HngryHippo [9k\]: yes
Uvas [12k?\]: yes
pepermite [7k\]: yes
]
(;B[ro]CR[ro])
(;B[lo]CR[lo]C[GrandYanII [7k?\]: q4 first?
Bardock [4k\]: sente
kjp [5k\]: take sente
LithiumTwo [13k\]: sente
agui [5k\]: keep sente
kjp [5k\]: press white low
Scribe [?\]: should black save the single stone at s4 or take sente?
Scribe [?\]: take sente!
moichido [12k\]: thx
tjip [?\]: thx
kjp [5k\]: thank you
Bardock [4k\]: thx
tjip [?\]: cya
Melancthon [12k\]: k
Dreggo [4k\]: thank you
Codexus [9k\]: ok
stalkor [7k\]: welll for this one time:p
Wasserfall [4k\]: thank you
Li [7k?\]: thx
agui [5k\]: ok thanks
GrandYanII [7k?\]: Thanks.
guojuan [5p\]: mingjiu are you there
LithiumTwo [13k\]: okay =)
LithiumTwo [13k\]: thanks =)
])))
(;B[pe]CR[pe]C[Scribe [?\]: what is the best black move on the right side?
tjip [?\]: R13 forced Q17
agui [5k\]: white has a extension
QI [6k?\]: bit slow again
Melancthon [12k\]: w can still attack
Scribe [?\]: r13 possible
pepermite [7k\]: w r13
shaokhan [8k\]: slow?
moichido [12k\]: black is too open
GrandYanII [7k?\]: This is nice...
lurchi [15k?\]: no base
kjp [5k\]: O15 will press white down
stalkor [7k\]: doesnt force anything
li92093 [4k\]: no attacking
agui [5k\]: q13
monchacha [11k\]: small
hakkl [18k\]: q12
flogo [2k\]: msm
flogo [2k\]: msn*
flogo [2k\]: lol
]
;W[qh]CR[qh]C[Scribe [?\]: q15 is not good because it leaves black open to whites attack on the right side at q12
kjp [5k\]: O16 will now press white down
agui [5k\]: ok
Bodo212 [12k\]: ok
LithiumTwo [13k\]: *r12
]))