(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1800]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[guojuan]PB[guojuan]WR[5p]BR[5p]DT[2004-11-21]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]AW[oc][dd][gd][of][pp]AB[kd][qd][qg][dj][cp][eq]C[Tweenie [-\]: Do you get these from a book ?
GrandYanII [7k?\]: Chinese pro...Oh :)
Scribe [?\]: from a book by a chinese pro teacher
Scribe [?\]: middle and high level problems
GralAnibal [8k\]: Guojuan, the voice sund is Lower than previous lecture
QI [6k?\]: K4 ?
GralAnibal [8k\]: sound seems too low
GrandYanII [7k?\]: Not really...
Scribe [?\]: GuoJuan what is the name of the book?
Scribe [?\]: in chinese
monchacha [11k\]: hi goujuan if you put some cloth around your neck that will make your neck warm and keep out of cough.
tjip [?\]: yes
Heretix [15k?\]: yeap
ivoSF [5k\]: yes
tukan [23k\]: yes
Wasserfall [4k\]: yes
moichido [12k\]: yes
Scribe [?\]: Problem: White to play
Tweenie [-\]: L14
GrandYanII [7k?\]: Lower side seems biggest....
Dreggo [4k\]: k3
zee [5k?\]: O3
QI [6k?\]: K4 
ivoSF [5k\]: l14?
Heretix [15k?\]: K4
agui [5k\]: K4
raitai [17k\]: K4
hansb [2k\]: Q12
GrandYanII [7k?\]: K$
pel [13k\]: k3
postmanpat [8k\]: q17
GrandYanII [7k?\]: Eh, k4
Reivilo [14k\]: k3
meerkat [7k\]: k3
ReeZe [15k\]: n3
lefuet [10k\]: c13
nicegame [6k\]: p12
idunnoyou3 [9k\]: J17 ?
amigo [13k\]: o4
idunnoyou3 [9k\]: ?J17 
ivoSF [5k\]: ohh white hehe
moichido [12k\]: r18 ?
Lilltiger [19k\]: m17?
DrGoPlayer [5k\]: q15
li92093 [4k\]: j17
QI [6k?\]: prevent double wing
Spark5309 [11k\]: l16 stone
idunnoyou3 [9k\]: J17 ?
Lilltiger [19k\]: L16 is lonley
Spark5309 [11k\]: L16
TheDod [21k?\]: what is double wing -_- ?
Wasserfall [4k\]: q12 ?
DrGoPlayer [5k\]: one black stone is alone
kjp [5k\]: R17 will make a base for White
]
;B[]LB[hq:G][iq:F][jq:E][kq:D][lq:C][mq:B][nq:A]C[Scribe [?\]: a scarf will keep your neck warn and prevent cough
Scribe [?\]: black L17 not really weak
Lilltiger [19k\]: lower right
agui [5k\]: bottom
ivoSF [5k\]: o3
Codexus [9k\]: bottom
Spark5309 [11k\]: bottom
melany [3k\]: K3
moichido [12k\]: right lower side
kjp [5k\]: LR
Scribe [?\]: most open area on the bottom
GrandYanII [7k?\]: Low side.
Scribe [?\]: moyo
Heretix [15k?\]: no sound
agui [5k\]: ok, now fine
amigo [13k\]: d
Wasserfall [4k\]: e has a continuation
QI [6k?\]: e
Scribe [?\]: where should white play on the bottom?
li92093 [4k\]: g
tjip [?\]: shouldn't one count till C4?
Scribe [?\]: yet black's is less vulnerable to invasion
jantiff [-\]: no really reducing either... ^^
QI [6k?\]: L16 can be attacked
]
(;W[kf]CR[kf]C[shaokhan [8k\]: L14
GralAnibal [8k\]: N16?
]
;B[ic]CR[ic]
;W[gc]CR[gc]
;B[mc]CR[mc]C[amigo [13k\]: attack too early
monchacha [11k\]: hi guojuan did you see what i wrote from above is good for you
Scribe [?\]: black lived easy
monchacha [11k\]: look up\]
Heretix [15k?\]: wrap cloth around neck he said
TheDod [21k?\]: double wing ? ! O.o...what is that please ? ...sorry for being noob 
])
(;W[jq]CR[jq]C[idunnoyou3 [9k\]: J17 ?
Scribe [?\]: black can create a moyo on the bottom left. 
monchacha [11k\]: warm neck will stop coughing
TheDod [21k?\]: moyo ?!
moichido [12k\]: f
Scribe [?\]: white k3 can work in either direction, two space jump to the left or build towards the center or attack black should black enter at o3
agui [5k\]: it's clear, thanks
guojuan [5p\]: 1 territory
TheDod [21k?\]: moyo = teritory ?
Scribe [?\]: white k4 does reduce black lower left, but white k3 reduces and creates terrority possibilities
GralAnibal [8k\]: shh, let her type
Lilltiger [19k\]: moyo = framework, potentional territory
guojuan [5p\]: 2, take away eye shapie
Santa [-\]: moyo can become territory
FireFox04 [13k\]: moyo= potential territory
Heretix [15k?\]: yup
nicegame [6k\]: http://senseis.xmp.net/?moyo
jantiff [-\]: or secure eye shape
TheDod [21k?\]: ohhh tthx
Scribe [?\]: invade
ivoSF [5k\]: invade
DrGoPlayer [5k\]: make base
ndkrempel [9k\]: undermine opponent territory
guojuan [5p\]: 3, make base
guojuan [5p\]: make eye
Heretix [15k?\]: yup
agui [5k\]: ok, very interesting !
Bodo212 [12k\]: yes
TheDod [21k?\]: yes
agui [5k\]: good to remember
Dreggo [4k\]: there goes my theory to pro's playing random:=)
Heretix [15k?\]: very good tip
Heretix [15k?\]: yep, that's ok
kjp [5k\]: yes, 
Lilltiger [19k\]: sure
Bardock [4k\]: ok
Spark5309 [11k\]: yes
Matthex [25k?\]: ok
tjip [?\]: ok
Codexus [9k\]: ok thanks a lot
DrGoPlayer [5k\]: thank you
Spark5309 [11k\]: please rest
Bardock [4k\]: sure
Lilltiger [19k\]: tnx alot
darron [9k?\]: thank you
smuin [?\]: sure
ivoSF [5k\]: sure
Bodo212 [12k\]: ok thx
postmanpat [8k\]: thanks
seku [17k\]: sure, thank you for teaching
Scribe [?\]: Thank you very much GuoJuan LaoShi
Wasserfall [4k\]: ok, thank you
monchacha [11k\]: sure
agui [5k\]: ok Thanks a lot
GrandYanII [7k?\]: Thanks a lot for the lessons!
au2 [2k\]: thank you
amigo [13k\]: bye guo, thx
darki [15k?\]: thanks
Santa [-\]: rest well
smudge [9k\]: yes, please get some rest :)
bolbi [10k\]: thanks a lot :-)
vince [5k\]: yes go to rest
melany [3k\]: thank you.
jbrown6001 [8k\]: thnx
moichido [12k\]: thx a lot
Matthex [25k?\]: thanks
Stav [6k?\]: thanks guo juan! take care
FireFox04 [13k\]: thnakyou
gg32 [1d?\]: thank you
Bardock [4k\]: please rest
meerkat [7k\]: thanks, get well...
vantoch [15k\]: thx
Lilltiger [19k\]: hope you will get better soon :)
Dreggo [4k\]: you should rest, thank you 
Bardock [4k\]: tthx
TheDod [21k?\]: when is the next lesson will take place ?
spingle [8k\]: poor guojuan ;)
melany [3k\]: we love you.
lefuet [10k\]: thank you
monchacha [11k\]: thank you
kjp [5k\]: pless you
pel [13k\]: thx
GrandYanII [7k?\]: Rest well!
nanashi0 [?\]: Thank you. Rest well.
au2 [2k\]: I HOPE YOU FEEL BETTER SOON
gogy [9k\]: thank you
nicegame [6k\]: thanks scribe, also
grassinger [15k\]: thank you
Santa [-\]: @)>---->----- a flower for guojuan
agui [5k\]: Hope you get better !
Scribe [?\]: records at http://www.bresler.org/Go/IngGoeSchool/ in 5 minutes
Lilltiger [19k\]: dont be sorry :)
pel [13k\]: get well soon!
zee [5k?\]: thanks
ivoSF [5k\]: how about kgs plus?
moichido [12k\]: GOD BLESS YOU FOR TEACHING WITH A COLD GUOJUAN
TheDod [21k?\]: toda (thank you , in hebrew ^_^)
Codexus [9k\]: Get better soon ^_^
kjp [5k\]: get well
Bardock [4k\]: no worries
Ambivlnce [13k\]: Thank you very much :)
DonnieD [15k\]: cu
QI [6k?\]: thanks
Lilltiger [19k\]: cu
plonk [16k\]: thx a lot, bye
Dreggo [4k\]: see you
GrandYanII [7k?\]: See you!
Heretix [15k?\]: see you!
]
(;B[lq]CR[lq]
;W[gq]CR[gq]C[Scribe [?\]: not enough space for two space jump to right of white j3
])
(;B[hq]CR[hq]C[Scribe [?\]: therefore white k3 is best
]
(;W[jo]CR[jo]C[agui [5k\]: ok
Heretix [15k?\]: ahh understand
vince [5k\]: yes
]
;B[ho]CR[ho]C[agui [5k\]: would K4 be possible ?
Heretix [15k?\]: yep
Wasserfall [4k\]: yes
Lilltiger [19k\]: yes
moichido [12k\]: yes =)
Spark5309 [11k\]: yes
]
;W[jm]CR[jm])
(;W[jp]CR[jp])))
(;W[ch]CR[ch]
(;B[kp]CR[kp]C[tukan [23k\]: why not j3 for W
])
(;B[nq]CR[nq]
;W[qn]CR[qn]
;B[kp]CR[kp]TR[qg][qn]C[Dreggo [4k\]: j3 doesn't have a good extension to the left
tukan [23k\]: ok
jantiff [-\]: J3 is one space too far
]))
(;W[nq]CR[nq]C[Scribe [?\]: white k3 prevents this
nicegame [6k\]: No AUDIO, forgot to switch on?
agui [5k\]: no sound
]
(;B[mq]CR[mq]C[GrandYanII [7k?\]: Framework of territory.
])
(;B[jp]CR[jp]))
(;W[kq]CR[kq]C[ReeZe [15k\]: d
TheDod [21k?\]: g
Scribe [?\]: which white is best?
]
;B[iq]CR[iq]
;W[ko]CR[ko]
;B[io]CR[io]
;W[km]CR[km]
;B[im]CR[im]SQ[fq][gq][hq][lq][mq][nq][oq]C[Scribe [?\]: white L3 not so bad both build, but white's is bigger
])
(;W[iq]CR[iq]C[swordsplay [10k\]: l3?
tjip [?\]: so that black is building bigger?
hansb [2k\]: O3
Scribe [?\]: why not white j3?
Wasserfall [4k\]: o3
Heretix [15k?\]: black can invade?
agui [5k\]: L3
swilks [5k\]: black will invade
nicegame [6k\]: no 2space jump possible to f3
Dreggo [4k\]: l3
jbrown6001 [8k\]: o3
]
(;B[nq]CR[nq]C[GrandYanII [7k?\]: Too close....and too far...:)
smuin [?\]: o3
]
;W[lq]CR[lq]
;B[qq]CR[qq]
;W[pq]CR[pq]
;B[qp]CR[qp]
;W[po]CR[po]
;B[pr]CR[pr]
;W[or]CR[or]
;B[qr]CR[qr]
;W[oq]CR[oq]
;B[qn]TR[qg][qn][iq][lq]C[Scribe [?\]: white will punish black o3 after white j3
ndkrempel [9k\]: black L3
smuin [?\]: i see
Scribe [?\]: white have perfect shape
])
(;B[kq]CR[kq]
;W[gq]CR[gq]C[GrandYanII [7k?\]: Perfect shape...
agui [5k\]: o3
vince [5k\]: o3
]))
(;W[hq]CR[hq]C[Scribe [?\]: if black L3 after white j3, white will not have space to make two eyes only one.
]
;B[jq]CR[jq])
(;W[jp]CR[jp]TR[qg]C[GrandYanII [7k?\]: Yes, very clear.
TheDod [21k?\]: i guess so
tjip [?\]: yes
Heretix [15k?\]: ahh, understood
GrandYanII [7k?\]: Yes.
Codexus [9k\]: yes
Lilltiger [19k\]: yes
agui [5k\]: yes
TheDod [21k?\]: yes
Scribe [?\]: white will be open at the bottom after k4, white will be forced to make a slow move to close the bottom (white k3 still needed)
jantiff [-\]: so when playing 4th line, be ready for the keima approach (H3 vs. K4)
hansb [2k\]: no sound
agui [5k\]: no sound
Cube [4k\]: true
QI [6k?\]: w can tenuki after H3 
GrandYanII [7k?\]: Turned off...?
ihgo [7k\]: no sound anymore
guojuan [5p\]: three reasons for high moves
TheDod [21k?\]: tenuki ? -_-
idunnoyou3 [9k\]: she couching
guojuan [5p\]: 1, moyo
Heretix [15k?\]: cough break
idunnoyou3 [9k\]: let her rest
guojuan [5p\]: 2, attack
guojuan [5p\]: 3. reduce
agui [5k\]: aha
agui [5k\]: sound ok now
amigo [13k\]: after w-k3  bh3 w>k5 or n3 ?
agui [5k\]: ok
Scribe [?\]: white k4 does not create a moyo. black r13 prevents the big moyo
agui [5k\]: no
kjp [5k\]: no
Scribe [?\]: white k4 does not attack anything. black lower left very strong
][GrandYanII [7k?\]: Yes, very clear.
TheDod [21k?\]: i guess so
tjip [?\]: yes
Heretix [15k?\]: ahh, understood
GrandYanII [7k?\]: Yes.
Codexus [9k\]: yes
Lilltiger [19k\]: yes
agui [5k\]: yes
TheDod [21k?\]: yes
Scribe [?\]: white will be open at the bottom after k4, white will be forced to make a slow move to close the bottom (white k3 still needed)
jantiff [-\]: so when playing 4th line, be ready for the keima approach (H3 vs. K4)
hansb [2k\]: no sound
agui [5k\]: no sound
Cube [4k\]: true
QI [6k?\]: w can tenuki after H3 
GrandYanII [7k?\]: Turned off...?
ihgo [7k\]: no sound anymore
guojuan [5p\]: three reasons for high moves
TheDod [21k?\]: tenuki ? -_-
idunnoyou3 [9k\]: she couching
guojuan [5p\]: 1, moyo
Heretix [15k?\]: cough break
idunnoyou3 [9k\]: let her rest
guojuan [5p\]: 2, attack
guojuan [5p\]: 3. reduce
agui [5k\]: aha
agui [5k\]: sound ok now
amigo [13k\]: after w-k3  bh3 w>k5 or n3 ?
agui [5k\]: ok
]
;B[hq]CR[hq]
;W[jq]CR[jq]C[agui [5k\]: J5
Scribe [?\]: white k4? good question!
]))