(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]
PW[mingjiu]PB[mingjiu]WR[7p]BR[7p]DT[2004-11-28]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[Codexus [9k\]: Hello, mingjiu
mingjiu [7p\]: hi
jbrown6001 [8k\]: hello
Mythenmetz [17k\]: hi
eternal [?\]: hello Mingjiu
hansb [2k\]: hi
jbrown6001 [8k\]: yes
Bardock [4k\]: yes
pepermite [7k\]: hello
Codexus [9k\]: I hear you clearly
pepermite [7k\]: yes
Naje [15k\]: hi, yes
sojun [?\]: np, thx for teaching us :)
]
;B[dp]CR[dp]C[abbadan [17k?\]: yes
]
;W[pd]CR[pd]
;B[cd]CR[cd]
;W[pp]CR[pp]C[kurf [8k\]: ^^
]
;B[ec]CR[ec]
;W[cj]CR[cj]
;B[ch]CR[ch]
;W[cn]CR[cn]
(;B[fq]CR[fq]
;W[bp]CR[bp]
;B[cq]CR[cq]C[Scribe [?\]: same as before per Mingjiu
]
;W[dl]CR[dl])
(;B[fp]CR[fp]C[Scribe [?\]: both side settle quicly
]
;W[bp]CR[bp]C[Scribe [?\]: one choice
]
;B[cq]CR[cq]
;W[dl]CR[dl]
;B[jq]CR[jq])
(;B[cl]CR[cl]C[Scribe [?\]: Lecture on Shape
Scribe [?\]: need to learn that if Black splits what should White do?
sojun [?\]: pincer?
Tweenie [-\]: E6
tomh [8k\]: e6
sojun [?\]: is there no other move?
]
(;W[en]CR[en]C[hansb [2k\]: E6
Scribe [?\]: Allowing both White B4 and D9, is too good for White 
]
(;B[fp]CR[fp]
(;W[dk]CR[dk]
;B[bp]CR[bp]C[Scribe [?\]: Black plays here or tenuki's
]
;W[]C[Scribe [?\]: currently easy for Black to connect
Scribe [?\]: by playing at B6
]
(;B[bn]CR[bn])
(;B[]))
(;W[bp]CR[bp]
(;B[cq]CR[cq]
;W[dk]CR[dk]TR[bp]C[Scribe [?\]: Most times White wants to enter corner first at B4 before D9
])
(;B[dk]CR[dk]
;W[cq]CR[cq]TR[cj][fp]C[Scribe [?\]: If Black runs, White takes the corner
])))
(;B[fq]CR[fq]
(;W[bp]CR[bp]
(;B[dk]CR[dk]
;W[cq]CR[cq]
;B[iq]CR[iq]C[Scribe [?\]: If black wants to kill C10, then Black should play low at F3, not F4
])
(;B[cq]CR[cq]
;W[dk]CR[dk]))
(;W[dk]CR[dk]
;B[bp]CR[bp])))
(;W[bl]CR[bl]LB[bk:B][bm:A]C[Scribe [?\]: easy for both if White jumps to E6
agui [5k\]: yes
sojun [?\]: no
Spark5309 [11k\]: yes
pepermite [7k\]: no
rhubarb [11k\]: no
spingle [8k\]: to connect?
jantiff [-\]: defensive, patient move
sojun [?\]: cool
moichido [13k\]: A
]
(;B[fq]CR[fq]
;W[dl]CR[dl]
;B[co]CR[co]
;W[dn]CR[dn]
;B[bn]CR[bn]
;W[bm]CR[bm]C[sojun [?\]: doesn't black get too much now?
Scribe [?\]: too easy fro White
])
(;B[bm]CR[bm]C[playgo [3k\]: any better moves then a or b ?
]
;W[cm]CR[cm]
;B[bk]CR[bk]C[Scribe [?\]: no choice, Black must D3 after White c4
Scribe [?\]: Good for Black
]
(;W[dl]CR[dl]
;B[ck]CR[ck]
;W[dk]CR[dk]C[gogy [10k\]: ?
]
;B[bj]CR[bj]
;W[bn]CR[bn]
;B[bp]CR[bp]C[agui [5k\]: no
sojun [?\]: no
Spark5309 [11k\]: no
Grimley [7k?\]: no
]
;W[am]CR[am]C[Scribe [?\]: Good for Blakc
Scribe [?\]: still no two eyes
Scribe [?\]: for WHite
])
(;W[bn]CR[bn]C[Scribe [?\]: Be sure to learn this move
kjp [5k\]: connect
]
(;B[bp]CR[bp]C[hansb [2k\]: C9
agui [5k\]: capture
kjp [5k\]: capture
]
;W[ck]CR[ck]
(;B[dl]CR[dl]
;W[am]CR[am]C[Scribe [?\]: hard for Black to play this way
])
(;B[al]CR[al]C[agui [5k\]: nice !
]
;W[dl]CR[dl]))
(;B[al]TR[al][bn]C[Scribe [?\]: D8 ?
Scribe [?\]: Black should have played B4 but had to play B10(?). Good for WHite
kjp [5k\]: yes
moichido [13k\]: yes
agui [5k\]: yes
sojun [?\]: yes
Bardock [4k\]: yes
Codexus [9k\]: yes
]
;W[dl]CR[dl]
;B[ck]CR[ck]
;W[dk]CR[dk]TR[al]C[Sarenda [?\]: c3
]
;B[bj]CR[bj]TR[al][bn][bp]C[Scribe [?\]: same as before when white played D8 in place of B6
])
(;B[dl]CR[dl]
;W[am]CR[am]
;B[ck]CR[ck]
;W[en]CR[en])
(;B[ck]CR[ck]
(;W[am]CR[am]C[Scribe [?\]: D8 is the wrong choice
]
;B[dl]CR[dl]C[Scribe [?\]: Black must connect solid
jantiff [-\]: lol
agui [5k\]: no
Scribe [?\]: at C9
])
(;W[cq]CR[cq]C[kjp [5k\]: how about pressing white in the corner c4
]
(;B[dq]CR[dq]
;W[cp]CR[cp]C[Scribe [?\]: White traded C10 for the corner
]
;B[hq]CR[hq]TR[cj]C[kjp [5k\]: how about the other hane
rhubarb [11k\]: if black hane other side?
agui [5k\]: what if black hanes the other way
])
(;B[cp]CR[cp]
;W[dq]CR[dq]C[Scribe [?\]: Black got C10 and position on the bottom
Scribe [?\]: hard for Black to fix
]
(;B[ep]CR[ep]
;W[bp]CR[bp])
(;B[bq]CR[bq]
;W[ep]CR[ep]
;B[eo]CR[eo]
;W[fp]CR[fp]C[Scribe [?\]: Good for White
]
;B[dn]CR[dn]
;W[bp]CR[bp]))))))
(;B[bk]CR[bk]C[Codexus [9k\]: yes
Lilltiger [19k\]: yes
Naje [15k\]: yes
Bardock [4k\]: yes
moichido [13k\]: yep
rhubarb [11k\]: yes
agui [5k\]: yes, very clear
pel [13k\]: yup
playgo [3k\]: or play ladder breaker first ?
Spark5309 [11k\]: ckear
kjp [5k\]: yes, but hard
sojun [?\]: yes
spingle [8k\]: yeah, hard ;)
Tweenie [-\]: very clear.  Excellent lesson !
Codexus [9k\]: yes I will
Grimley [7k?\]: great lesson
jantiff [-\]: this will be useful
]
(;W[bm]CR[bm]
;B[ck]CR[ck]C[Scribe [?\]: Horrible for White
])
(;W[ck]CR[ck]C[Scribe [?\]: Must cut
]
;B[bm]CR[bm]C[Scribe [?\]: White must cut
]
;W[dl]CR[dl]
;B[cm]CR[cm]
;W[dm]CR[dm]C[Tweenie [-\]: d6
Spark5309 [11k\]: b6
moichido [13k\]: b10 ?
playgo [3k\]: B10 
kjp [5k\]: b6
DangoMouse [-\]: e6
spingle [8k\]: b5
amigo [13k\]: b6
DangoMouse [-\]: *d6
jantiff [-\]: can cut at D6 ?
kurf [8k\]: b4
Scribe [?\]: A is sente descent
]
(;B[bj]CR[bj]
;W[bn]CR[bn]
;B[al]CR[al]
;W[en]CR[en]LB[an:A]C[Scribe [?\]: B10 is too easy on White
Scribe [?\]: Very good for WHite
Scribe [?\]: corner in great danger
])
(;B[bn]CR[bn]C[Scribe [?\]: Disaster for Black, pressed low on second line
]
;W[co]CR[co]
(;B[cp]CR[cp]C[jantiff [-\]: forbidden :)
]
;W[bo]CR[bo]
;B[bj]CR[bj]
;W[al]CR[al]C[Scribe [?\]: Black B6 has no continuation
])
(;B[bo]CR[bo]
;W[cp]CR[cp]))
(;B[dn]CR[dn]C[Scribe [?\]: Black MUST cut
]
;W[bn]CR[bn]
;B[al]CR[al]LB[bk:A]C[Tweenie [-\]: A6
kjp [5k\]: d5
Grimley [7k?\]: a6?
jantiff [-\]: force at A6 ?
playgo [3k\]: C4 
agui [5k\]: C3
Grimley [7k?\]: a10 instead of b10?
Scribe [?\]: Good for Black, the connection at A7 is the key move
Grimley [7k?\]: nm
agui [5k\]: invade the corner
wildwolf [?\]: c4 or d5?
Scribe [?\]: Black has many cutting points A B, and C.  Black can not handle this
Scribe [?\]: WHen the ladder is good for white, black can not hane at A
]
(;W[an]CR[an]C[neing [12k\]: b10
]
(;B[bj]CR[bj]
;W[am]CR[am]
;B[bl]CR[bl]
;W[bi]CR[bi])
(;B[am]CR[am]C[Scribe [?\]: Must connect
jantiff [-\]: secure eye
]
;W[bj]CR[bj]
;B[co]CR[co]
;W[en]CR[en]
;B[do]CR[do]))
(;W[do]CR[do]
;B[en]CR[en]
;W[eo]CR[eo]C[Scribe [?\]: If ladder works black must extend at F6 and then B10,  result is good for White
]
(;B[co]CR[co]
;W[fn]CR[fn]C[Scribe [?\]: If ladder works then white can play this way
])
(;B[fn]CR[fn]
;W[cp]CR[cp]
;B[bj]CR[bj]
;W[ej]CR[ej])
(;B[fo]CR[fo]
(;W[ep]CR[ep]
;B[co]CR[co])
(;W[cp]CR[cp]
;B[ep]CR[ep]
;W[co]CR[co]LB[bj:C][fn:A][fp:B]C[Scribe [?\]: White can not play E4 in place of C4
])))
(;W[cp]CR[cp]C[Scribe [?\]: A (B9)
rhubarb [11k\]: e2 shape move?
]
(;B[do]CR[do]
;W[cq]CR[cq]
;B[bj]CR[bj]
(;W[er]CR[er]C[Scribe [?\]: Broken ladder for White, White must play C4
agui [5k\]: would to press white on the second line be possible ? For example beginning with C7 ?
sojun [?\]: E2 important?
])
(;W[ej]CR[ej]
;B[dq]CR[dq]C[jantiff [-\]: E2 vital to reach out and continue attack
]
;W[dr]CR[dr]
;B[er]CR[er]
;W[cr]CR[cr]C[Scribe [?\]: E2 very very important, D3 is Black's sente
sojun [?\]: ok, white dies otherwise
Scribe [?\]: White must fix, Black seals white in the corner
sojun [?\]: yes
kjp [5k\]: ok
Naje [15k\]: yes
Spark5309 [11k\]: yes
rhubarb [11k\]: yes
Bardock [4k\]: yes
moichido [13k\]: yes
Scribe [?\]: How should Black contine on bottom?
agui [5k\]: yes, 
guojuan [5p\]: yes
guojuan [5p\]: I am here
moichido [13k\]: =)
Chocobovn [6k\]: yes
sojun [?\]: :)
kjp [5k\]: thx mingjiu
gogy [10k\]: thx
Chocobovn [6k\]: thx
]))
(;B[bj]CR[bj]))))))))