(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]
PW[mingjiu]PB[mingjiu]WR[7p]BR[7p]DT[2004-11-28]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[Chocobovn [6k\]: hi
sojun [?\]: hi
CALVINSUN [1k\]: hi
li92093 [4k\]: hi
playgo [3k\]: hi
Zanthia [17k?\]: hi
Spark5309 [11k\]: hi
sojun [?\]: we can hear you
mingyaod [13k\]: hello
Lilltiger [19k\]: hi :)
sojun [?\]: :)
swilks [5k\]: hi
Spark5309 [11k\]: we hear you
DonnieD [15k\]: hi
glint [21k?\]: :)
agui [5k\]: Hi
Lifespace [22k\]: hi
Kronstadt [19k?\]: hi
smudge [9k\]: we can hear you :)
dfg [?\]: hello
pel [13k\]: hola
]
;B[cp]CR[cp]C[kjp [5k\]: mojn
]
;W[pd]CR[pd]
;B[dc]CR[dc]
;W[pp]CR[pp]
;B[eq]CR[eq]
;W[de]CR[de]
;B[dh]CR[dh]LB[ec:A][gd:C][hd:D][fe:B][ge:E]C[Scribe [?\]: very common joseki
Scribe [?\]: white has many responses, A - E
Scribe [?\]: NOT joseki
Chocobovn [6k\]: no
zephi [6k\]: for corner eyespace
]
(;W[cc]CR[cc]C[Tweenie [-\]: F16 as well ?
agui [5k\]: no
swilks [5k\]: no
Bardock [4k\]: no
Scribe [?\]: now white can attach at c17 after two one space jumps
]
;B[cb]CR[cb]C[guojuan [5p\]: now black walks ahead
]
;W[cd]CR[cd]
;B[eb]CR[eb]C[playgo [3k\]: pushing from the behind...
]
(;W[fe]CR[fe]
(;B[gc]CR[gc]
;W[he]CR[he]C[agui [5k\]: white has no extension
playgo [3k\]: b walks faster
Grimley [7k?\]: black doenst need to answer
])
(;B[gd]CR[gd]C[jantiff [-\]: E18 gains momentum
]
;W[ge]CR[ge]
;B[hd]CR[hd]
;W[he]CR[he]
;B[id]CR[id]C[zephi [6k\]: scribe is sweet to write it out :)
]))
(;W[cg]CR[cg]
;B[ch]CR[ch]
;W[dg]CR[dg]
;B[eh]CR[eh]
;W[ff]CR[ff]C[jantiff [-\]: too good for black,
]
;B[hc]CR[hc]C[zephi [6k\]: b likes that too much?
Scribe [?\]: This is too good for blakc
]))
(;W[fe]CR[fe]C[jantiff [-\]: reach out first
tibra [12k?\]: yes
Lilltiger [19k\]: yes
Bardock [4k\]: yes
agui [5k\]: yes
Naje [15k\]: yes
Codexus [9k\]: yes
Chocobovn [6k\]: yes
kjp [5k\]: yes
sojun [?\]: yes
buszmen [16k\]: yep
Zanthia [17k?\]: yes
swilks [5k\]: yes
glint [21k?\]: :)
Spark5309 [11k\]: yes
guojuan [5p\]: the order of tthe moves are important
rhubarb [11k\]: thanks mingjiu
abbadan [17k?\]: yes
]
(;B[fc]CR[fc]
(;W[he]CR[he]
;B[hc]CR[hc]
;W[cc]CR[cc]
;B[cb]CR[cb]
;W[cd]CR[cd])
(;W[cc]CR[cc]C[zephi [6k\]: good to know
Scribe [?\]: If white wants to attack at c17, first he must one space jump to the center
Bardock [4k\]: yes
kjp [5k\]: yes
agui [5k\]: yes
Naje [15k\]: yes
Codexus [9k\]: ok
Kronstadt [19k?\]: yes
tibra [12k?\]: yes
Lilltiger [19k\]: yes
Spark5309 [11k\]: yes
rhubarb [11k\]: yes
zephi [6k\]: OSU!
kjp [5k\]: nice
glint [21k?\]: :)
Chocobovn [6k\]: yes
Scribe [?\]: attack -> attach
buszmen [16k\]: what if black c16 ??
guojuan [5p\]: nothing happening
jantiff [-\]: why exactly does w play C17 ?
]
;B[cd]CR[cd]
;W[dd]CR[dd]TR[bc][dh]
;B[bc]CR[bc]C[guojuan [5p\]: sorry
]
(;W[cb]CR[cb]C[Stonehenge [12k\]: for ex
Scribe [?\]: sets up white attack against black d12, depends upon who holds lower left corner
]
;B[db]CR[db]C[Stonehenge [12k\]: why not C18 ?
]
;W[ce]CR[ce]
;B[bd]CR[bd]
;W[be]CR[be]C[Stonehenge [12k\]: hm
]
;B[bb]CR[bb]
;W[dk]CR[dk]TR[cp][eq]C[zephi [6k\]: c18 gives b the corner
zephi [6k\]: but w can attack d12 after
])
(;W[ec]CR[ec]
;B[cb]CR[cb]
;W[db]CR[db]
;B[cc]CR[cc]C[zephi [6k\]: e18 is sente against the corner?
]
;W[eb]CR[eb])))
(;B[gc]CR[gc])
(;B[gd]CR[gd]C[agui [5k\]: ok
]
;W[ec]CR[ec]C[Scribe [?\]: this black not possib le
]
;B[ed]CR[ed]
;W[fd]CR[fd]C[Scribe [?\]: broken shape
]
;B[fc]CR[fc]
;W[eb]CR[eb]C[Stonehenge [12k\]: why b C18 and not C16 ? well too late...
Scribe [?\]: black will be cut
Scribe [?\]: no continuation for black, 
])))