(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[2100]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[guojuan]PB[guojuan]WR[5p]BR[5p]DT[2004-12-05]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]AB[dd][jd][pd][dj][jj][pj][dp][jp][pp]C[Evan [10k?\]: no, thanks
BEheMOt [?\]: no
planar [5k\]: I learned this when I was 10k...
ivoSF [5k\]: i thought it was a low kyu mistake
Grimley [7k?\]: most people know it around 10k i thought
]
(;B[]
(;W[nq]CR[nq]
;B[pn]CR[pn]
;W[fq]CR[fq]
;B[cn]CR[cn]
;W[jn]CR[jn]C[Scribe [?\]: recap of earlier lecture
Zinc [15k?\]: g3
au2 [2k\]: G4
handtalk [?\]: g4
Ambivlnce [13k\]: g4
DrGoPlayer [5k\]: g4\\
glorfindel [12k\]: g4
Scribe [?\]: Walk 5 stones ahead then may tenuki
]
(;B[gp]CR[gp]C[grassinger [15k\]: g4
Scribe [?\]: Perfect for Black 
ligo [8k\]: i reconnect and it works now
]
(;W[fp]CR[fp]C[sojun [?\]: g5
au2 [2k\]: G5
handtalk [?\]: g5
Scribe [?\]: G%
]
;B[go]CR[go]C[Bardock [4k\]: g5
grassinger [15k\]: g5
]
;W[fo]CR[fo]
;B[gn]CR[gn]C[trry [?\]: g5
glorfindel [12k\]: g5
]
;W[fn]CR[fn]
;B[gm]CR[gm]
;W[fm]CR[fm]
;B[gl]CR[gl]
;W[fl]CR[fl]C[sojun [?\]: walk 5 stones
])
(;W[nc]CR[nc]
;B[gq]CR[gq]
;W[pc]CR[pc]
;B[qc]CR[qc]
;W[qd]CR[qd]C[sojun [?\]: s17
kjp [5k\]: s17
Kasper [13k\]: s17
au2 [2k\]: S17
glorfindel [12k\]: s17
li92093 [4k\]: s17\\
Scribe [?\]: S17
Zinc [15k?\]: s17
Pterygoid [?\]: s17
grassinger [15k\]: s17
]
;B[rc]CR[rc]C[tobe30k [20k\]: :)
Santa [-\]: lol
Zinc [15k?\]: lol
]
;W[qe]CR[qe]
;B[pe]CR[pe]
;W[pf]CR[pf]C[handtalk [?\]: p15
tobe30k [20k\]: p15
au2 [2k\]: P15
Bardock [4k\]: p15
sojun [?\]: i would say: guojuan taught me this one :p
kjp [5k\]: p15
grassinger [15k\]: p15
Pterygoid [?\]: p15
Kasper [13k\]: p15
]
;B[oe]CR[oe]C[li92093 [4k\]: p17
]
(;W[qg]CR[qg]
;B[oc]CR[oc])
(;W[oc]CR[oc]
;B[qf]CR[qf]C[agui [5k\]: ok
Pterygoid [?\]: ok
agui [5k\]: no
Pterygoid [?\]: no
])))
(;B[mp]CR[mp]C[Pterygoid [?\]: walk 5 stones
ligo [8k\]: i got webserver is refusing audio connections error- no sound 
]
(;W[np]CR[np]
;B[mo]CR[mo]
;W[no]CR[no]
;B[mn]CR[mn]
;W[nn]CR[nn]
;B[mm]CR[mm]
;W[nm]CR[nm]
;B[pl]CR[pl]
;W[ml]CR[ml]
;B[km]CR[km])
(;W[pq]CR[pq]
;B[qq]CR[qq]
;W[qr]CR[qr]
;B[qp]CR[qp]
;W[or]CR[or]
;B[np]CR[np]C[bison [9k\]: small
])))
(;W[fc]CR[fc]C[ivoSF [5k\]: it does?
]
;B[hc]CR[hc]
;W[cc]CR[cc]
;B[dc]CR[dc]
;W[cd]CR[cd]
(;B[de]CR[de]
;W[db]CR[db]
;B[eb]CR[eb]
;W[cb]CR[cb]C[sojun [?\]: yes, made L16 inefficient in that game
]
;B[ec]CR[ec]
;W[cf]CR[cf]C[sojun [?\]: yes
Santa [-\]: yes
Pterygoid [?\]: yes
glorfindel [12k\]: yes
agui [5k\]: yes
ADM [10k\]: yes
Kasper [13k\]: yes
Scribe [?\]: White is sealed in
agui [5k\]: ok
BEheMOt [?\]: k
sojun [?\]: yes
])
(;B[ce]CR[ce]C[ivoSF [5k\]: bad becouse black no big side?
flogus [1k\]: C18 
agui [5k\]: C18
Pterygoid [?\]: c18
handtalk [?\]: mistake
Grimley [7k?\]: c18 for white
trry [?\]: c18
FlowerKing [6k\]: d15
grftjx [4k\]: d15
flogus [1k\]: C18 D18 D15 
FlowerKing [6k\]: but b cant play c15
sojun [?\]: this is overplay
Grimley [7k?\]: c18
Pterygoid [?\]: c18
Scribe [?\]: WHite must punish
agui [5k\]: c18
sojun [?\]: cut
handtalk [?\]: d18
enfo [9k\]: crosscut?
glint [21k?\]: cut
glorfindel [12k\]: what if withe play d18 instead of c18?
Scribe [?\]: This move is a common mistake
Scribe [?\]: White must punish by playing at C18
]
(;W[be]CR[be]C[Scribe [?\]: Black C15 is a common mistake.
]
;B[cf]CR[cf]
;W[bf]CR[bf]
;B[cg]CR[cg]
;W[db]CR[db]
;B[eb]CR[eb]
;W[cb]CR[cb]
;B[ec]CR[ec]TR[cg]C[Santa [-\]: white is crawling
agui [5k\]: white is low
sojun [?\]: black gained a line
ADM [10k\]: w is squeezed
Osiris [7k\]: black is ahead
goglu [-\]: white is lower
li92093 [4k\]: d18low for w
ivoSF [5k\]: white lower and not ahead
Isobeutel [14k\]: mor b influence
Grimley [7k?\]: whie on 2nd lined
kjp [5k\]: W is pressed low
Chocobovn [6k\]: w is sealed
trry [?\]: w enclosed
au2 [2k\]: w is closed in
ralph [6k\]: black ahead
Scribe [?\]: This result is better for Black than the joseki
])
(;W[cb]CR[cb]C[Ridgeback [6k\]: punishment is at hand :)
goglu [-\]: C18 or D18
ADM [10k\]: yup
Scribe [?\]: Most severe move
]
(;B[de]CR[de]
;W[db]CR[db]
;B[fd]CR[fd]
;W[ec]CR[ec]
;B[gd]CR[gd]C[Scribe [?\]: best that Black can do after WHite c18
])
(;B[db]CR[db]C[agui [5k\]: ok
]
;W[de]CR[de]C[Santa [-\]: yes
agui [5k\]: ok
]
(;B[fd]CR[fd]
;W[cf]CR[cf]
;B[be]CR[be]C[Scribe [?\]: White wins
]
;W[bf]CR[bf])
(;B[cf]CR[cf]C[BEheMOt [?\]: k
flogus [1k\]: E16 
Grimley [7k?\]: e16
Santa [-\]: E16
agui [5k\]: e16
Pterygoid [?\]: e16
Bardock [4k\]: e16
]
(;W[ed]CR[ed]C[Evan [10k?\]: e16 stops high escape?
agui [5k\]: yes
sojun [?\]: yes
Bardock [4k\]: yes\\
handtalk [?\]: b e15?
FlowerKing [6k\]: e16 stops everything :)
Lilltiger [18k\]: e15
kjp [5k\]: when is c14 good for white
Pterygoid [?\]: no
agui [5k\]: no
grassinger [15k\]: no
Evan [10k?\]: no
goglu [-\]: what idf D18 instead of C18
sojun [?\]: often these things start to look like avalanche joseki
]
(;B[fb]CR[fb]C[agui [5k\]: e18
Chocobovn [6k\]: e18
au2 [2k\]: E18
Bardock [4k\]: e18\\\\
Scribe [?\]: E16 is whites only move
Pterygoid [?\]: e18
]
;W[eb]CR[eb]C[Scribe [?\]: E18 is also only move
]
;B[ea]CR[ea]
;W[ec]CR[ec]C[Lilltiger [18k\]: what if black playes e15?
]
;B[da]CR[da]
;W[ca]CR[ca]
;B[fa]CR[fa]
;W[gb]CR[gb])
(;B[ee]CR[ee]
;W[df]CR[df]
;B[ec]CR[ec]
;W[fd]CR[fd]
;B[fb]CR[fb]
;W[da]CR[da]
;B[eb]CR[eb]
;W[gb]CR[gb]C[TenchiK [7k\]: B2 bomber
TenchiK [7k\]: :)
]))
(;W[ee]CR[ee]C[Santa [-\]: F18 
agui [5k\]: f18
au2 [2k\]: E18
Bardock [4k\]: f18
]
;B[fb]CR[fb]C[TenchiK [7k\]: G19
]
;W[gb]CR[gb]
;B[gc]CR[gc]
;W[eb]CR[eb]
;B[fd]CR[fd]
;W[fa]CR[fa]
;B[ed]CR[ed]))))
(;W[de]TR[cc][dc][cd][dd][ce][de]C[Scribe [?\]: White c18 is the best way to punish black c15
Chocobovn [6k\]: c18
goglu [-\]: C18
sojun [?\]: c18?
agui [5k\]: c18
]
(;B[cb]CR[cb]
;W[bb]CR[bb]
;B[db]CR[db]
(;W[cf]CR[cf]
;B[be]CR[be]
;W[bd]CR[bd]C[Isobeutel [14k\]: no
]
;B[ad]CR[ad]
;W[bc]CR[bc]C[Santa [-\]: poor white
]
;B[bf]CR[bf]C[glint [21k?\]: ouch
])
(;W[be]CR[be]
;B[cf]CR[cf]
;W[bf]CR[bf]
;B[cg]CR[cg]
;W[ee]CR[ee]C[ADM [10k\]: f18?
agui [5k\]: f18
Scribe [?\]: F18?
Evan [10k?\]: f18
]
;B[fb]CR[fb]C[Santa [-\]: F16 and F18
]
;W[gb]CR[gb]
;B[gc]CR[gc]
;W[eb]CR[eb]
;B[fd]CR[fd]
;W[fa]CR[fa]
;B[ed]CR[ed]C[agui [5k\]: ok
Bardock [4k\]: yes
kjp [5k\]: y
sojun [?\]: yes
ADM [10k\]: hehe yes
Lilltiger [18k\]: yes
Evan [10k?\]: yep
FlowerKing [6k\]: i agree :)
ADM [10k\]: ponnuki useless
]))
(;B[cf]CR[cf]
;W[db]CR[db]))
(;W[db]CR[db]
;B[eb]CR[eb]
;W[cb]CR[cb]
;B[ec]CR[ec]C[Grimley [7k?\]: white can play c14
Scribe [?\]: Less severe
]
(;W[de]CR[de]
;B[cf]CR[cf]C[ivoSF [5k\]: how black best reduce the damage? playing wall at b15?
goglu [-\]: C14 instead of cut ?
])
(;W[cf]CR[cf]C[DeSade [-\]: and with D15 at C14?
])))))
(;C[FlowerKing [6k\]: i didnt know it exactly
]
;B[]
(;W[lq]CR[lq]
;B[nq]CR[nq]C[flush [-\]: You'd be amazed...
]
;W[jq]CR[jq]
;B[iq]CR[iq]C[sojun [?\]: hey, this looks like upper right example
sanjose [4k\]: l3
]
(;W[ip]CR[ip]C[Grimley [7k?\]: :)
sanjose [4k\]: h3
TenchiK [7k\]: i never knew this
enfo [9k\]: H3
TenchiK [7k\]: <.<
])
(;W[ir]CR[ir]))
(;W[dg]CR[dg]C[sojun [?\]: :)
]
;B[pf]CR[pf]C[evilpixie [8k?\]: e15
]
;W[gd]CR[gd]C[sanjose [4k\]: f15
sojun [?\]: yes
BEheMOt [?\]: g14
Grimley [7k?\]: yes
trry [?\]: e14
spingle [8k\]: yeah
ralph [6k\]: yes
handtalk [?\]: yes
tian [1d\]: yes :)
swordsplay [10k\]: yes
BrunnenG [16k?\]: yes
li92093 [4k\]: b F18 then yes
Grimley [7k?\]: please
Kasper [13k\]: yes
swilks [5k\]: yes
Isobeutel [14k\]: yes
ADM [10k\]: c17 and be a coward ^^
bison [9k\]: yes
ivoSF [5k\]: of course
Evan [10k?\]: yes!
jbrown6001 [8k\]: sure
])
(;W[nq]CR[nq]
;B[pn]CR[pn]
;W[gp]CR[gp]
;B[jn]CR[jn]
;W[dn]CR[dn]C[sanjose [4k\]: e6
au2 [2k\]: ok
BEheMOt [?\]: yes
Pterygoid [?\]: ok
Isobeutel [14k\]: ya
TenchiK [7k\]: ok
handtalk [?\]: great
Grimley [7k?\]: yes cool
goglu [-\]: ok
]
;B[cf]CR[cf]C[Evan [10k?\]: yes
Kasper [13k\]: yes thanks
ADM [10k\]: sure
agui [5k\]: ok
ralph [6k\]: suffered today
Kasper [13k\]: cross-cut is hard
ralph [6k\]: these moves
kjp [5k\]: good
sojun [?\]: ok
Pterygoid [?\]: ok
Chocobovn [6k\]: thanks you
Bardock [4k\]: thx
Pterygoid [?\]: thx
TenchiK [7k\]: ok
au2 [2k\]: thank you for the lesson
kjp [5k\]: thx
agui [5k\]: Yes , very good !
glorfindel [12k\]: thx
Scribe [?\]: Xiexie Guojuan laoshi!
enfo [9k\]: thanks
ADM [10k\]: thank you for your time
silver2k4 [?\]: thx
Evan [10k?\]: ok, been really good
TenchiK [7k\]: thanks
sojun [?\]: thx for the lesson
mattC [?\]: thanks
rapentire [26k?\]: thanks 
tiger1 [8k\]: thx
Zinc [15k?\]: ok, thanks you very much
Liberson [14k\]: thank you
Isobeutel [14k\]: thx too
DrGoPlayer [5k\]: thanks
handtalk [?\]: thanks guojuan
nyaa [21k?\]: thank you guojuan!
planar [5k\]: thank you
kjp [5k\]: mojn
Kasper [13k\]: thank you!
trry [?\]: thx
bison [9k\]: thanks
BEheMOt [?\]: thank you very much
ralph [6k\]: have a nice santa party
grftjx [4k\]: thank you very much
curlie [6k\]: thanks
BrunnenG [16k?\]: thx
au2 [2k\]: thanks to ING FOUNDATION
agui [5k\]: Thank you very much !
jbrown6001 [8k\]: cu bye
ivoSF [5k\]: thanks guo juan and mingjiu for the intresting lecture
DrGoPlayer [5k\]: see u next week
Nagare [?\]: Thank You Laoshi
tian [1d\]: thx
Alchem [20k\]: thank you very much
rapentire [26k?\]: ING RULES
Aristocles [11k\]: thanks
flush [-\]: Thanks
sojun [?\]: thx to you both and ING foundation
agui [5k\]: See you next week.
flush [-\]: Hehe
Pterygoid [?\]: :)
flush [-\]: Sinterklaas
FlowerKing [6k\]: i want to know it now :(
abbadan [17k?\]: thanks
Kasper [13k\]: :)
Isobeutel [14k\]: lol
chrys [16k?\]: thanks for the lesson!
Grimley [7k?\]: hehe :)
Zinc [15k?\]: lol
Evan [10k?\]: he he
Grimley [7k?\]: have fun!
tian [1d\]: have fun :)
ivoSF [5k\]: hehe
glint [21k?\]: thank you GuoJuan and MingJui - have a great party :)
Grimley [7k?\]: thnx dont eat too much candy
kjp [5k\]: cu
au2 [2k\]: bye bye
Kasper [13k\]: bye
abbadan [17k?\]: cu
Zinc [15k?\]: bye
handtalk [?\]: bye
eternal [?\]: bye
sojun [?\]: cya
tobe30k [20k\]: c ya
ralph [6k\]: cu bye
curlie [6k\]: bye!
agui [5k\]: bye
swordsplay [10k\]: bye
Evan [10k?\]: bye 
Liberson [14k\]: see u 
spingle [8k\]: bye
flush [-\]: Bye :)
silver2k4 [?\]: bye
Centurion [8k\]: thanks
mingjiu [7p\]: see you
]
;W[qh]CR[qh]C[kjp [5k\]: yes please
ralph [6k\]: good!
]
;B[qf]CR[qf]C[sojun [?\]: cool
agui [5k\]: yes, very interesting
]
;W[qj]CR[qj]
;B[qk]CR[qk]C[sojun [?\]: nobi i think
]
;W[pk]CR[pk])))