(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]
PW[Robert Rehm]PB[Geert Groenen]WR[5d]BR[6d]DT[2004-12-05]EV[Martinicup 2004]RO[2]PC[Groningen]AN[Paul Cuypers/Geert Groenen]C[au2 [2k\]: yes
Bardock [4k\]: yes
guojuan [5p\]: yes
rapentire [26k?\]: yup
au2 [2k\]: hello
Kasper [13k\]: yes
ivoSF [5k\]: yes
grassinger [15k\]: yes
ligo [8k\]: hi
swordsplay [10k\]: yes
Ridgeback [6k\]: yep
eternal [?\]: yes
glorfindel [12k\]: hi
Looser [27k?\]: hello
bolbi [10k\]: hello :-)
pepermite [7k\]: hello
tobe30k [20k\]: hi
toktok [?\]: pls moderate ...
]
;B[qd]CR[qd]
;W[cp]CR[cp]
;B[pq]CR[pq]
;W[dd]CR[dd]
;B[ep]CR[ep]
;W[po]CR[po]
;B[qm]CR[qm]C[agui [5k\]: Hello
]
;W[qq]CR[qq]C[Grimley [7k?\]: sounds dutch
guojuan [5p\]: is one of the top Dutch players
]
(;B[qr]CR[qr]
;W[qp]CR[qp]C[guojuan [5p\]: geert groenen
Grimley [7k?\]: cool
]
(;B[mq]CR[mq]C[guojuan [5p\]: he won few times Dutch championship
]
;W[on]CR[on]
;B[pk]CR[pk]C[Looser [27k?\]: wow
]
(;W[or]CR[or]C[agui [5k\]: no
pepermite [7k\]: no
Looser [27k?\]: yea
Santa [-\]: a little
KatzenAuge [13k?\]: no
guojuan [5p\]: he is a very talented player when he was young
]
(;B[pr]CR[pr]C[Looser [27k?\]: was?
]
;W[oq]CR[oq]C[Grimley [7k?\]: im afraid i started too late;)
]
;B[op]CR[op]C[Santa [-\]: oh
guojuan [5p\]: very smart guy
]
(;W[np]CR[np]C[guojuan [5p\]: q4 is the only move
swordsplay [10k\]: yes
sojun [?\]: yes
guojuan [5p\]: order wrong
Bardock [4k\]: yes
agui [5k\]: yes
ralph [6k\]: yes
ivoSF [5k\]: clear
Looser [27k?\]: yea
]
(;B[os]CR[os]
;W[pp]CR[pp]
;B[nr]CR[nr]
;W[oo]CR[oo]
;B[jq]CR[jq]
;W[od]CR[od]
;B[oe]CR[oe]
;W[ne]CR[ne]
;B[of]CR[of]
;W[pd]CR[pd]
;B[qe]CR[qe]
;W[kd]CR[kd]
;B[qc]CR[qc]TR[pk][qm]C[Looser [27k?\]: looks strange
]
;W[dn]CR[dn]
;B[fc]CR[fc]LB[kd:A]C[Santa [-\]: was O4 a trickplay?
Scribe [?\]: Black p15
]
(;W[hc]CR[hc]TR[kd]C[Scribe [?\]: Black two stones work well with top right
Scribe [?\]: White P15 bad move?  touch weak stone?
]
;B[cc]CR[cc]
;W[dc]CR[dc]
;B[cd]CR[cd]
;W[de]CR[de]
;B[db]CR[db]
;W[eb]CR[eb]
;B[cb]CR[cb]
;W[ec]CR[ec]
;B[cf]CR[cf]LB[kd:A][md:B]TR[eb][dc][ec][hc][dd][de]C[swordsplay [10k\]: good for white
Grimley [7k?\]: good for black?
agui [5k\]: good for black
glorfindel [12k\]: for both
ivoSF [5k\]: white behind pretty much for so soon
KatzenAuge [13k?\]: favours white?
grftjx [4k\]: white makes territory with an open skirt?
Scribe [?\]: Good for Black both top and left are open to Black 
Grimley [7k?\]: white still open on upper right
ralph [6k\]: white overconcentrated?
agui [5k\]: the two stones on the bottom left work litle
sojun [?\]: white has wrong direction
sojun [?\]: R17 is making white moyo smaller
Scribe [?\]: White L16 is inefficient
Scribe [?\]: better to be at N
Scribe [?\]: B
agui [5k\]: ok
Scribe [?\]: White D17 is wrong direction
]
;W[eq]CR[eq]
;B[fq]CR[fq]
;W[er]CR[er]
;B[eo]CR[eo]C[Scribe [?\]: E5 is slow move
mpu [2d\]: E5 was wrong, what should B have played instead of E5?
]
;W[fr]LB[cp:1][ep:2][eq:3][fq:4][er:5]TR[dn][eo][fr]C[agui [5k\]: bad for black
Scribe [?\]: sequence with out marked stone
Scribe [?\]: with the marked stone this is not joseki
Looser [27k?\]: stone destroys joseki?
]
(;B[cl]CR[cl]
(;W[gq]TR[cl][eo][ep][fq][gq]C[Ridgeback [6k\]: what should B play in stead of E5?
Santa [-\]: wrong place
Scribe [?\]: Black is better in this area after these two moves
Scribe [?\]: Black can give up the three stones, they are very light
]
;B[df]CR[df]C[Santa [-\]: ;-)
FlowerKing [6k\]: hehe
Looser [27k?\]: ay
Scribe [?\]: Black gives up three stones and damages white deeply
]
;W[ef]CR[ef]
;B[eg]CR[eg]
;W[fg]CR[fg]
;B[eh]CR[eh]
;W[ff]CR[ff]C[dougm [?\]: F12 better than E8?
Santa [-\]: should he play F12?
]
(;B[el]CR[el]C[au2 [2k\]: good for b
Santa [-\]: looks timid
Scribe [?\]: slow move
Grimley [7k?\]: :)
]
(;W[oi]CR[oi]C[Scribe [?\]: at E8
Looser [27k?\]: walks to middle?
Scribe [?\]: good reducing move
Ridgeback [6k\]: O14 game winning move :)
Scribe [?\]: Black o14 is urgent
]
(;B[qi]CR[qi]
;W[nf]CR[nf]C[guojuan [5p\]: see, Robert is a smart player
]
;B[ng]CR[ng]C[ivoSF [5k\]: passive right?
]
;W[og]CR[og]
;B[pg]CR[pg]
;W[mg]CR[mg]
;B[oh]CR[oh]
;W[nh]CR[nh]C[FlowerKing [6k\]: so w isnt that smart?
]
;B[og]CR[og]
;W[mh]CR[mh]C[Santa [-\]: I think Geert will win Guo Juan
guojuan [5p\]: only now he is over 50, so often blunder move :)
]
(;B[nc]CR[nc]
;W[nd]CR[nd]
;B[nb]CR[nb]
(;W[ej]CR[ej]TR[oi]C[bison [9k\]: not too deep?
Santa [-\]: overplay
]
(;B[co]CR[co]
;W[cn]CR[cn]
;B[do]CR[do]
;W[bo]CR[bo]
;B[bp]CR[bp]
;W[bq]CR[bq]
;B[bn]CR[bn]
;W[ap]CR[ap]
;B[bm]CR[bm]
;W[en]CR[en]
;B[dj]CR[dj]C[guojuan [5p\]: messy 
]
;W[fn]CR[fn]
;B[ei]TR[ei][dj][co][do][eo][ep][fq]C[FlowerKing [6k\]: ?
Santa [-\]: crazy
Grimley [7k?\]: good for white
ADM [10k\]: interesting
Scribe [?\]: Black lost a large corner
ivoSF [5k\]: first run since weak weak too
Santa [-\]: white sente too
ivoSF [5k\]: white?
grftjx [4k\]: black got what he already had
Santa [-\]: yes
kjp [5k\]: yes
sojun [?\]: yes
Lilltiger [18k\]: yes
agui [5k\]: yes
Grimley [7k?\]: white g11 now?
BEheMOt [?\]: jo
FlowerKing [6k\]: why did b played this?
ralph [6k\]: no comment ;-)
ivoSF [5k\]: say a so say b too
ADM [10k\]: who won? ^^
li92093 [4k\]: who won the game?
FlowerKing [6k\]: what was bs mistake here?
ADM [10k\]: lol alright
guojuan [5p\]: yes :)
guojuan [5p\]: I am here
bison [9k\]: thank you
au2 [2k\]: thank you
sojun [?\]: thx
ralph [6k\]: thanks
bing0 [21k\]: thx
Bardock [4k\]: thx
jbrown6001 [8k\]: thnx
handtalk [?\]: thx
grassinger [15k\]:  thanks
Zinc [15k?\]: thx
grftjx [4k\]: thank you
nyaa [21k?\]: thank you mingjiu!
Evan [10k?\]: thank you
ivoSF [5k\]: thanks 
agui [5k\]: Thank you very much
BEheMOt [?\]: thx
Pterygoid [?\]: thx
Jambon [18k\]: thx
guojuan [5p\]: I will open a game again
au2 [2k\]: thanks to ING FOUNDATION
silver2k4 [?\]: thx
Mythenmetz [17k\]: thank you
ADM [10k\]: thank you
]
;W[gi]CR[gi]
;B[mp]CR[mp]
;W[mn]CR[mn]
;B[nj]CR[nj]
;W[lj]CR[lj]
;B[lk]CR[lk]
;W[kk]CR[kk]
;B[kj]CR[kj]
;W[mk]CR[mk]
;B[ll]CR[ll]
;W[jj]CR[jj]
;B[ki]CR[ki]
;W[mj]CR[mj]
;B[jk]CR[jk]
;W[kl]CR[kl]
;B[ii]CR[ii]
;W[ij]CR[ij]
;B[hj]CR[hj]
;W[ik]CR[ik]
;B[hi]CR[hi]
;W[fi]CR[fi]
;B[hk]CR[hk]
;W[il]CR[il]
;B[hl]CR[hl]
;W[ji]CR[ji]
;B[hg]CR[hg]
;W[fj]CR[fj]
;B[ek]CR[ek]
;W[di]CR[di]
;B[dg]CR[dg]
;W[dk]CR[dk]
;B[cj]CR[cj]
;W[gh]CR[gh]
;B[jh]CR[jh]
;W[dl]CR[dl]
;B[im]CR[im]
;W[jl]CR[jl]
;B[dm]CR[dm]
;W[fl]CR[fl]
;B[fk]CR[fk]
;W[gk]CR[gk]
;B[ck]CR[ck])
(;B[fh]CR[fh]
;W[gh]CR[gh]
;B[gi]CR[gi]
;W[fi]CR[fi]
(;B[ce]CR[ce]C[Grimley [7k?\]: why c15?
Scribe [?\]: e10 gives a chance to black
ralph [6k\]: :-)
]
;W[]
;B[gg]CR[gg]
;W[hh]CR[hh]
(;B[ee]CR[ee]
;W[fe]CR[fe])
(;B[fb]CR[fb]
;W[ea]CR[ea]
;B[ee]CR[ee]
;W[fe]CR[fe]
;B[fd]CR[fd]
;W[ed]CR[ed]
;B[hd]CR[hd]))
(;B[gj]CR[gj]
;W[ce]CR[ce]
;B[be]CR[be]
;W[dg]CR[dg]C[Grimley [7k?\]: ah ok:)
]
;B[dh]CR[dh]C[Scribe [?\]: white c17 is forcing
]
;W[bf]CR[bf]C[FlowerKing [6k\]: hm
Looser [27k?\]: ouch
ADM [10k\]: ow
])))
(;W[fh]CR[fh]
;B[ei]CR[ei]
;W[fi]CR[fi]C[guojuan [5p\]: this is typical Robert
]
(;B[]
(;W[ej]CR[ej]
;B[dj]CR[dj]
;W[di]CR[di])
(;W[]))
(;B[fj]CR[fj]
;W[gj]CR[gj]
;B[fk]CR[fk]
;W[pi]CR[pi]
;B[qh]CR[qh]
;W[ok]CR[ok]C[Santa [-\]: white is taking the whole board
ivoSF [5k\]: g9?
FlowerKing [6k\]: there is still the cut at c5
]
;B[co]CR[co]
;W[do]CR[do]
;B[dp]CR[dp]
;W[cq]CR[cq]
;B[cn]CR[cn]
;W[pl]CR[pl]
;B[ql]CR[ql]
;W[qk]CR[qk]
;B[rk]CR[rk]
;W[pj]CR[pj]
;B[qj]CR[qj]
;W[hl]CR[hl])))
(;B[fh]CR[fh]
;W[gh]CR[gh]
;B[gi]CR[gi]
(;W[hi]CR[hi]C[Scribe [?\]: Big must not urgent to play o17
]
;B[gj]CR[gj]
;W[hh]CR[hh]
;B[nc]CR[nc]
;W[nd]CR[nd]
;B[nb]CR[nb]C[ADM [10k\]: ah i see ^^
Scribe [?\]: growing the left while reducing the center is must more urgent
])
(;W[hh]CR[hh]
;B[nc]CR[nc])))
(;B[nf]CR[nf]C[Santa [-\]: simple cut
ivoSF [5k\]: this is the good stuff to learn :)
]
;W[qi]CR[qi]
;B[qj]CR[qj]C[Scribe [?\]: did not lose much
]
;W[ri]CR[ri]
;B[nk]CR[nk]
;W[mi]CR[mi]
;B[lk]CR[lk]LB[co:A]TR[nf][qg][rg][sg][qh][rh][sh][mi][oi][qi][ri][si][dn][on][oo][po][np][pp][qp][oq][qq][or]C[ADM [10k\]: i think thats better for b
ADM [10k\]: because of lower right
Scribe [?\]: Too easy for Black
Santa [-\]: it has gone
Scribe [?\]: White has lost moyo potential and must deal with the two weak groups
Scribe [?\]: that are split by Black stones on line 9
]))
(;W[nf]CR[nf]
;B[ng]CR[ng]
;W[mg]CR[mg]
;B[nh]CR[nh]))
(;B[co]CR[co]
;W[do]CR[do]
;B[dp]CR[dp]C[Scribe [?\]: ;)
]
;W[cq]CR[cq]C[Looser [27k?\]: clapping for scibe
]
;B[cn]CR[cn]C[ADM [10k\]: scribe is it hard being a go player *and* a new zealand hip hop identify? you seem to juggle both responsibilities well
]
;W[dm]CR[dm]C[Scribe [?\]: Black should immediately cut
Scribe [?\]: Black has gained the marked territory
]
;B[cm]CR[cm]
(;W[fm]CR[fm]
;B[go]CR[go])
(;W[dl]CR[dl]
;B[dk]CR[dk]
;W[ek]CR[ek]
;B[dj]CR[dj]TR[ak][bk][al][bl][am][bm][an][bn]C[guojuan [5p\]: the head
guojuan [5p\]: and walk ahead
Scribe [?\]: Black canstill give up the four stones
]))
(;B[fh]CR[fh]))
(;W[df]CR[df]
;B[cg]CR[cg]
;W[dg]CR[dg]
;B[dh]CR[dh]
;W[eh]CR[eh]
;B[di]CR[di]
;W[ei]CR[ei]
;B[dj]CR[dj]
;W[nf]CR[nf]
;B[co]CR[co]
;W[do]CR[do]C[Scribe [?\]: Now white is building a big moyo
]
;B[dp]CR[dp]
;W[cq]CR[cq]
;B[cn]CR[cn]
;W[dm]CR[dm]
;B[cm]CR[cm]
;W[gq]CR[gq]))
(;B[gq]CR[gq]TR[jq][mq]C[Scribe [?\]: F2 takes a lot of territory from Black
]))
(;W[ec]CR[ec]
;B[fd]CR[fd]
;W[df]CR[df]
;B[ic]CR[ic]
(;W[jb]CR[jb]LB[eq:A]C[Looser [27k?\]: y
Scribe [?\]: attacks black
])
(;W[eq]CR[eq])))
(;B[pp]CR[pp]
;W[nq]CR[nq]C[rapentire [26k?\]: o3?
]
(;B[no]CR[no]
;W[oo]CR[oo]C[Scribe [?\]: white o4 is an error
]
;B[mp]CR[mp]
(;W[mr]CR[mr]
;B[os]CR[os]
;W[nr]CR[nr]
;B[lr]CR[lr]
;W[mo]CR[mo]
;B[nn]CR[nn]
(;W[nm]CR[nm]
;B[mn]CR[mn]
;W[lq]CR[lq]
;B[lp]CR[lp]
;W[lo]CR[lo]
;B[kp]CR[kp]
;W[ln]CR[ln])
(;W[lq]CR[lq]
;B[om]CR[om]
(;W[qn]CR[qn]
;B[lp]CR[lp]
;W[lo]CR[lo]
;B[kp]CR[kp])
(;W[lp]CR[lp]
;B[qo]CR[qo]C[au2 [2k\]: good for b
Looser [27k?\]: lethal
KatzenAuge [13k?\]: goood for black
Grimley [7k?\]: good for black ofcourse
Grimley [7k?\]: resign
ivoSF [5k\]: black powerfull group
])))
(;W[os]CR[os]
;B[ns]CR[ns]
;W[mo]CR[mo]
;B[nn]CR[nn]
;W[mr]CR[mr]C[Santa [-\]: very clever
]
;B[ps]CR[ps]))
(;B[qo]CR[qo]C[guojuan [5p\]: big flood
]
(;W[oo]CR[oo]
;B[ro]CR[ro]TR[on][oo][po])
(;W[qn]CR[qn]C[Looser [27k?\]: ja
]
;B[ro]CR[ro]
;W[rn]CR[rn]
;B[oo]CR[oo]
;W[pn]CR[pn]
;B[no]CR[no]
(;W[rp]CR[rp]C[guojuan [5p\]: black river
]
;B[mp]CR[mp]C[Looser [27k?\]: awful shape of w
guojuan [5p\]: river runs out
])
(;W[mp]CR[mp]
;B[rq]CR[rq])))
(;B[oo]CR[oo]C[Scribe [?\]: Good for White due 
]
;W[no]CR[no]C[Looser [27k?\]: jangtsekiang
]
;B[pn]CR[pn]
;W[om]CR[om]
;B[qo]CR[qo]
;W[hp]CR[hp]C[kjp [5k\]: a little better now for white
])))
(;W[pp]CR[pp]C[Scribe [?\]: correct move
Scribe [?\]: tesuji by black at p1
Looser [27k?\]: that is what w wants
]
(;B[os]CR[os]C[FlowerKing [6k\]: nice
]
;W[np]CR[np]
;B[nr]CR[nr])
(;B[nq]CR[nq]C[Looser [27k?\]: why not o3?
guojuan [5p\]: Robert is 5dan
]
(;W[np]CR[np]
;B[os]CR[os]C[guojuan [5p\]: Geert is 6dan
])
(;W[os]CR[os]C[Santa [-\]: descent to edge very big
]))))
(;B[oq]CR[oq]
;W[pr]CR[pr]C[guojuan [5p\]: Robert Rehm is also one of the strong Dutch players
agui [5k\]: ok
]
;B[rr]CR[rr]
;W[nr]CR[nr]
;B[nq]CR[nq]C[Scribe [?\]: black corner stones are dead
]
;W[mr]CR[mr]
;B[lr]CR[lr]C[Looser [27k?\]: to few lib
]
;W[rq]CR[rq]C[Scribe [?\]: Terrible for Black
]))
(;W[rr]CR[rr]C[ivoSF [5k\]: no bit i can imagine
]
;B[pr]CR[pr]C[bison [9k\]: natural
]))
(;B[or]CR[or]))
(;B[qp]CR[qp]C[Santa [-\]: German and Dutch players
]))