(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]
PW[mingjiu]PB[mingjiu]WR[7p]BR[7p]DT[2004-12-19]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[Restore [12k\]: yes
mingyaod [12k\]: yes
franzush [12k\]: YES!
zazie [-\]: hello !
Worthless [-\]: Yes.
Bardock [4k\]: yes
smudge [13k\]: yes, 
Zinc [18k?\]: yes
halo5 [13k\]: i can hearyou 
handtalk [8k\]: yes
Restore [12k\]: much better this time
Out [?\]: I can hear you just fin.
spingle [9k\]: yes ;)
DrGoPlayer [6k\]: yes
ReeZe [16k\]: yes fine
Dartagnate [16k\]: good afternoon!
agui [7k\]: Hello, nice and clear
smuin [?\]: sound good
]
;B[sb]CR[sb]C[Bardock [4k\]: yes
GMF [10k?\]: @restore: B17 does not work
]
;W[rc]CR[rc]C[ZeroKun [-\]: hw -.-
]
;B[rb]CR[rb]C[handtalk [8k\]: yes
Worthless [-\]: Yep.
]
;W[rd]CR[rd]
;B[qc]CR[qc]
;W[qd]CR[qd]
;B[pb]CR[pb]
;W[pd]CR[pd]
;B[ob]CR[ob]
;W[nb]CR[nb]
;B[]C[hatebiotec [4k?\]: yes 3 way
]
;W[oc]CR[oc]
;B[]
;W[mc]CR[mc]C[handtalk [8k\]: 3
Scribe [?\]: How many ways can White attack this Black?
Scribe [?\]: Three ways.
Worthless [-\]: Three...?
GMF [10k?\]: i just see 2 ways -.-
Klops [12k\]: i can only remember 3
Klops [12k\]: think thts all
Worthless [-\]: Hmm, 2+3+4, average is 3, so I say 3 ways.
Dartagnate [16k\]: ha
handtalk [8k\]: r19 q17 and p19 ?
Worthless [-\]: :P
Scribe [?\]: Which way is the Best?  A15 is the best.  White still can kill and the A15 helps regarding the outside
hansb [3k\]: 3 ways
agui [7k\]: 3
ReeZe [16k\]: 4
goglu [-\]: 3
gds [?\]: 4
zazie [-\]: 4
go [8k?\]: 5
Worthless [-\]: 3.5
moichido [14k\]: 2
playm8 [5k?\]: 5?
zazie [-\]: whooo :)
Klops [12k\]: 4
Restore [12k\]: ;)
seidelin [9k\]: 3
Ambivlnce [14k\]: 3
playm8 [5k?\]: i wouldn't say 5
Restore [12k\]: 3.14159
playm8 [5k?\]: lol @ restore
playm8 [5k?\]: :)
Uvas [-\]: lol
]
(;B[ba]CR[ba]
;W[cb]CR[cb]
;B[bb]CR[bb]C[Stav [8k?\]: XD
playm8 [5k?\]: maybe reading it out will help, not sure tho :p
]
;W[db]CR[db]
;B[cc]CR[cc]
;W[dc]CR[dc]
;B[bd]CR[bd]
;W[dd]CR[dd]
;B[ad]CR[ad]
;W[be]CR[be]
;B[]
;W[ce]CR[ce]C[GMF [10k?\]: 2 ways
zazie [-\]: 2
ligo [8k\]: 3
GMF [10k?\]: miai
Klops [12k\]: 3
Worthless [-\]: Two.
GMF [10k?\]: C16 A18 .. one of the both..
agui [7k\]: 3 ways
Restore [12k\]: 4?
Dartagnate [16k\]: A17 A18 C16 3?
go [8k?\]: 4
Bardock [4k\]: 3
]
;B[]C[dedain [10k\]: a15?
GMF [10k?\]: okay
dedain [10k\]: a15
goglu [-\]: A15
go [8k?\]: A15 
moichido [14k\]: a15
Worthless [-\]: A15 ?
Restore [12k\]: what about white b17?
GMF [10k?\]: A15 
]
(;W[cd]CR[cd]C[meesterrob [18k\]: 3
]
;B[bc]CR[bc]
;W[ab]CR[ab])
(;W[ab]CR[ab]C[GMF [10k?\]: yes
agui [7k\]: yes
Bardock [4k\]: yes
Scribe [?\]: Upper left if a related position with THREE ways for White to attack this Black
Worthless [-\]: Yep.
dedain [10k\]: yes
Zinc [18k?\]: yes
playm8 [5k?\]: yep
Restore [12k\]: yes
Dartagnate [16k\]: yes
handtalk [8k\]: yes
pepermite [8k\]: yes
zazie [-\]: oh yes i see the third :)
])
(;W[ae]CR[ae]C[Scribe [?\]: C16, A18 and B17
zazie [-\]: yep
agui [7k\]: a15
Scribe [?\]: A15 not B!&
GMF [10k?\]: ah
zazie [-\]: A15
Bardock [4k\]: a15
agui [7k\]: a15
pepermite [8k\]: a15
]
;B[ab]CR[ab]C[Scribe [?\]: B17
]
;W[bc]CR[bc]C[Worthless [-\]: Yes.
]))
(;B[]C[hansb [3k\]: O19
Bardock [4k\]: o19
handtalk [8k\]: r19
Klops [12k\]: q19
go [8k?\]: R18 
Dartagnate [16k\]: dead
go [8k?\]: Q19 
Bardock [4k\]: o19
Scribe [?\]: Which is the best way?
]
(;W[pc]CR[pc]C[guojuan [5p\]: yes
Restore [12k\]: yes
guojuan [5p\]: I am her
guojuan [5p\]: here
Worthless [-\]: I love homework :)
zazie [-\]: ooops, i heard "Roger"
guojuan [5p\]: ok
]
;B[qb]CR[qb]
;W[oa]CR[oa]
;B[pa]CR[pa]C[go [8k?\]: a piece of pie ?
]
;W[ra]CR[ra]C[Worthless [-\]: Works.
Scribe [?\]: First way Q17
])
(;W[oa]CR[oa]
;B[pa]CR[pa]
;W[na]CR[na]C[Scribe [?\]: Second way P19
Worthless [-\]: Got it.
agui [7k\]: yes
GMF [10k?\]: yes+#
Restore [12k\]: yes
moichido [14k\]: yes
])
(;W[qb]CR[qb]C[seidelin [9k\]: r19
gds [?\]: O19
]
;B[pc]CR[pc])
(;W[qa]CR[qa]
;B[ra]CR[ra]C[hansb [3k\]: S19
Worthless [-\]: Nope.
])
(;W[ra]CR[ra]
;B[qa]CR[qa]C[Worthless [-\]: P19 
au2 [2k\]: ko
scsiduck [29k?\]: p19
spingle [9k\]: r17
cemo [?\]: p19
zazie [-\]: because of a shortage of liberties
Worthless [-\]: 3 magical ways!
]
(;W[pc]CR[pc]C[dedain [10k\]: q17
Dartagnate [16k\]: Q17 
zazie [-\]: no no P19, it's not ko
Worthless [-\]: It's a ko.
]
;B[oa]CR[oa])
(;W[oa]CR[oa]C[Worthless [-\]: SO P19 should be the move.
]
;B[pc]CR[pc]C[goglu [-\]: i missed this one
]
;W[na]CR[na]C[Scribe [?\]: Third way S19
]
;B[pa]CR[pa]C[Worthless [-\]: Got it.
moichido [14k\]: yes#
GMF [10k?\]: got it
Bardock [4k\]: yes
Bodo212 [14k\]: yes
agui [7k\]: yes very nice !!
]))
(;W[pa]CR[pa]
;B[oa]CR[oa])
(;W[na]CR[na]C[Uvas [-\]: yup
]
;B[oa]CR[oa]C[Worthless [-\]: Q19 looks suicidal :)
]
;W[qa]CR[qa]
;B[ra]CR[ra]
;W[qb]CR[qb]C[moichido [14k\]: clear =)
]
;B[pa]CR[pa]C[Scribe [?\]: Fourth way O19
]
;W[qb]CR[qb]C[Worthless [-\]: Dead again...
Bardock [4k\]: yes
moichido [14k\]: yes
Worthless [-\]: Poor Black.
Restore [12k\]: yes
playm8 [5k?\]: O19 is coolest move
zazie [-\]: yes ! i was right with 4 ways ! ;)
agui [7k\]: yes, very nice !
handtalk [8k\]: best way 0 19?
Restore [12k\]: o19 is best way?
playm8 [5k?\]: it's not only shape, but it has style as well
Dartagnate [16k\]: yes
seidelin [9k\]: yes
Bodo212 [14k\]: yes
guojuan [5p\]: yes
Klops [12k\]: yes
Worthless [-\]: Clear.
Scribe [?\]: Therefore  there are FOUR ways: O19, P19, Q17 and S19
])))