(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[900]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[hattorix]PB[Wangzi]WR[3k]BR[3k]DT[2004-12-23]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[Wangzi [3k\]: hi

playm8 [5k?\]: hi
ReeZe [16k\]: hi
moichido [14k\]: hi
DeSade [-\]: :)
xMe [6k\]: hi
Fatality [13k?\]: hello
vantoch [15k\]: hi
Koreangrl8 [20k\]: Hello
rakdver [18k\]: hi
Bardock [4k\]: yes
xMe [6k\]: yes
ReeZe [16k\]: fine
eternal [?\]: yes
moichido [14k\]: sound very good =)
mmm1 [?\]: very good
rakdver [18k\]: sound is ok
DnF [8k\]: sound is good
smudge [12k\]: very clear!
Zinc [19k?\]: yes
Koreangrl8 [20k\]: Merry chirstmas...^ -^...sounds good
Bardock [4k\]: clear
Fatality [13k?\]: we hear you very well
Jenny12yrs [16k\]: yes
agui [7k\]: Hello, Yes
moichido [14k\]: thx =)
Koreangrl8 [20k\]: Thank you .you too!
DrGoPlayer [4k\]: plyed lots of go
playm8 [5k?\]: happy new year! :D
DnF [8k\]: thanks :)  you too
atman [4k\]: same to you!
quelquun [8k\]: same to you
agui [7k\]: Thank you, Same to you !
mmm1 [?\]: thx feliz navidad
Jenny12yrs [16k\]: thanks
]
;B[pd]CR[pd]BL[1044.578]C[hattorix [3k\]: yoroshiku

]
;W[dp]CR[dp]WL[1040.04]
;B[fq]CR[fq]BL[1040.473]C[Scribe [?\]: Game Review from KGS. Black young player from Amsterdam
]
;W[dd]CR[dd]WL[1035.744]
;B[qp]CR[qp]BL[1028.49]
(;W[op]CR[op]WL[1024.548]C[Scribe [?\]: also known as semi-chinese, small-chinese, and mini-chinese
]
;B[cn]CR[cn]BL[1016.336]C[Scribe [?\]: prevents mini-chinese
]
;W[eo]CR[eo]WL[1005.763]
;B[cq]CR[cq]BL[1014.234]C[Jenny12yrs [16k\]: what ranks?
Scribe [?\]: what about m3, combination pincer extensioun?
]
(;W[cp]CR[cp]WL[991.197]
;B[dq]CR[dq]BL[1012.46]C[Scribe [?\]: Normally white will take sente after c3
Scribe [?\]: Must hane at E4 first after White H3
]
;W[go]CR[go]WL[988.265]C[moichido [14k\]: yes
Scribe [?\]: White is missing a stone at d10 or c10, so will be hard to make this influence work
moichido [14k\]: d9
hansb [3k\]: E4
mmm1 [?\]: h4
borsuk [-\]: h4
moichido [14k\]: d9 or h3
]
(;B[ep]CR[ep]BL[1009.926]
(;W[fp]CR[fp]WL[958.705]
;B[eq]CR[eq]BL[1008.742]
;W[do]CR[do]WL[952.143]
(;B[bp]CR[bp]BL[1006.721]
;W[gq]CR[gq]WL[935.807]
;B[oq]CR[oq]BL[965.7]
;W[nq]CR[nq]WL[927.46]
;B[pq]CR[pq]BL[963.744]
;W[np]CR[np]WL[923.161]
;B[qn]CR[qn]BL[962.081]
;W[om]CR[om]WL[917.874]
;B[co]CR[co]BL[958.856]TR[hp][gr]C[au2 [2k\]: bad for w
playm8 [5k?\]: good for black
ReeZe [16k\]: good for black
Scribe [?\]: actually the left side is quite big
Scribe [?\]: neither player realizes this at this time
Scribe [?\]: better for black, lot of territory
Scribe [?\]: white's shape is not good
Scribe [?\]: g2 takes away a lot of white territory
]
(;W[nc]CR[nc]WL[907.963]
(;B[kd]CR[kd]BL[939.721]C[Scribe [?\]: R6 makes white r14 a bad move
Tweenie [?\]: good
Koreangrl8 [20k\]: to far?
au2 [2k\]: good
moichido [14k\]: bad
Scribe [?\]: white will be open on the right
hansb [3k\]: good
borsuk [-\]: bad
atman [4k\]: I like it
Koreangrl8 [20k\]: I think its to far?
tukan [19k\]: W weak
hansb [3k\]: good = larger side
Tweenie [?\]: we just said right not important
au2 [2k\]: rigt side not interesting for b
Lilltiger [15k\]: good for white
playm8 [5k?\]: because white will likely go outside and black can build towards R6?
handtalk [8k\]: stop moyo
Lilltiger [15k\]: then its good for black
Koreangrl8 [20k\]: ^ _^
Moax [-\]: o15
flogo [2k\]: m15 ?
DrGoPlayer [4k\]: o15
agui [7k\]: o15
handtalk [8k\]: o14?
moichido [14k\]: o15
Fatality [13k?\]: O15
Bardock [4k\]: o15
Lilltiger [15k\]: o15
tukan [19k\]: o15
Ameise [10k?\]: o15
darkblue [?\]: m15
Lilltiger [15k\]: then attak l16
]
(;W[qc]CR[qc]WL[898.638]C[agui [7k\]: ok
moichido [14k\]: lazy move
Scribe [?\]: therefore playing on the top is better for both white and black
Tweenie [?\]: bad
evilgo [3k\]: bad direction
Bardock [4k\]: bad
Tweenie [?\]: O15 better
tukan [19k\]: there are better
DeSade [-\]: it'll face R6 too
handtalk [8k\]: outside better
quelquun [8k\]: b now q17?
flogo [2k\]: M15 better ?
]
;B[pc]CR[pc]BL[936.719]C[agui [7k\]: black takes the top side
]
;W[qd]CR[qd]WL[894.442]C[Tweenie [?\]: white should attack L16
]
;B[pe]CR[pe]BL[934.629]C[Scribe [?\]: white r17 bad direction, makes white take in uninteresting right side
Scribe [?\]: black gets strength facing the left, the white moyo
edlee [10k\]: Can you explain briefly why the right side is not interesting for Black ? Is it because of P7 ?
]
(;W[qe]CR[qe]WL[890.37]C[Tweenie [?\]: seems white makes the game easy for black
Scribe [?\]: Better to play your own Go than to play a joseki that does not fit the situation
agui [7k\]: ok good tip
torenaar [?\]: great idea
]
(;B[qf]CR[qf]BL[919.869]
;W[rf]CR[rf]WL[855.499]
;B[qg]CR[qg]BL[917.263]
;W[rg]CR[rg]WL[842.518]
(;B[fc]CR[fc]BL[907.437]C[atman [4k\]: it combines extension and attack
Scribe [?\]: very good Black move, even though it fails to walk ahead at r12
torenaar [?\]: otherwise whirte sente
DnF [8k\]: it approaches corner and extends
mmm1 [?\]: w live already
DrGoPlayer [4k\]: that area is urgent
handtalk [8k\]: 3 purpose move take sente
Scribe [?\]: very flexible, right side not interesting, let those two stones (r13, r14) be
atman [4k\]: pushes white into another uninteresting area
Bodo212 [14k\]: yes
agui [7k\]: yes
Lilltiger [15k\]: yes
moichido [14k\]: yes
Scribe [?\]: white r12 very severe,  but in wrong direction, not importand stones
Ameise [10k?\]: yes
NEWS [10k\]: yes
atman [4k\]: when there is a white stone around k16
Tweenie [?\]: when it makes black overconcentrated
tukan [19k\]: when there is no stone at l16
tukan [19k\]: simple
Scribe [?\]: may be used when white has 1. huge moyo on left side or 2. black is not open on the top
]
(;W[ec]CR[ec]WL[831.283]C[Scribe [?\]: bad touch!   makes bad stronger and helps blacks top side
NEWS [10k\]: when black is strong already?
evilgo [3k\]: if white has a stone at h17 area
DnF [8k\]: if it makes black baseless
Lilltiger [15k\]: when white has stone at k17
playm8 [5k?\]: when there's a white stone near K16
Grimley [9k\]: its good if black has a stone at j16 or j17
DrGoPlayer [4k\]: when b already strong there
agui [7k\]: when white has a pincer stone
borsuk [-\]: if W have stone in k17 or sth
mmm1 [?\]: when w k16
Scribe [?\]: d14 not good because of black c6, must be lower at c14
Scribe [?\]: Must both be true? or just either one?
Lilltiger [15k\]: k, tnx :)
agui [7k\]: ok
Bodo212 [14k\]: thx
moichido [14k\]: yes
]
;B[fd]CR[fd]BL[841.434]
;W[df]CR[df]WL[823.57]
;B[pb]CR[pb]BL[838.731]C[Lilltiger [15k\]: why not f16? cos of c6?
Scribe [?\]: nice move, big, makes r12 move interesting, but a little slow
Darkheart [12k\]: lol
Lilltiger [15k\]: yes
]
(;W[qh]CR[qh]WL[798.262]C[Lilltiger [15k\]: yes, very clear, heard it was bad but noone said why :)
agui [7k\]: slow
atman [4k\]: not urgent
xMe [6k\]: bad
quelquun [8k\]: wrong direction?
Lilltiger [15k\]: bad, right still not intersting
tukan [19k\]: left side
Scribe [?\]: not a good move, wrong direction, right side not interesting
hansb [3k\]: P13
Wangzi [3k\]: P13
au2 [2k\]: P13
flogo [2k\]: N16 
]
(;B[ph]CR[ph]BL[833.89]C[Scribe [?\]: young player full of energy...can not play quiet move
FlowerKing [6k\]: lol
]
;W[pf]CR[pf]WL[755.388]
;B[pg]CR[pg]BL[829.51]
;W[of]CR[of]WL[746.268]
;B[ne]CR[ne]BL[814.781]
;W[nf]CR[nf]WL[734.734]
(;B[qi]CR[qi]BL[803.893]C[agui [7k\]: yes
moichido [14k\]: rofl
tukan [19k\]: good one ;)))
Scribe [?\]: Black o18 after White p15: black moving on second line forcing white into his territory ;(
]
(;W[rh]CR[rh]WL[728.825]
(;B[me]CR[me]BL[714.614]C[Scribe [?\]: black lucky that white answered
]
;W[oh]CR[oh]WL[705.242]C[Scribe [?\]: not good shape cutting point is too dangerous
Bodo212 [14k\]: ok
]
;B[oi]CR[oi]BL[705.148]
;W[ni]CR[ni]WL[668.484]
(;B[oj]CR[oj]BL[701.447]C[Koreangrl8 [20k\]: ^ -^
]
(;W[oe]CR[oe]WL[646.853]
;B[od]CR[od]BL[689.473]
;W[nd]CR[nd]WL[644.372]
;B[og]CR[og]BL[682.552]
;W[ng]CR[ng]WL[636.479]
;B[nh]CR[nh]BL[680.189]
;W[lf]CR[lf]WL[592.033]C[Scribe [?\]: homework: work this position out to determine result after double hane at o10
]
;B[le]CR[le]BL[669.351]
(;W[lg]CR[lg]WL[583.067]
(;B[nb]CR[nb]BL[634.543]
;W[mb]CR[mb]WL[573.203]
;B[ob]CR[ob]BL[631.479]
;W[mc]CR[mc]WL[506.316]C[Scribe [?\]: very good move o18 for black liberty
]
;B[qb]CR[qb]BL[619.387]
;W[rb]CR[rb]WL[501.157]
;B[ra]CR[ra]BL[616.411]
;W[rc]CR[rc]WL[494.881]
;B[kb]CR[kb]BL[563.929]C[Scribe [?\]: black played very well here
]
;W[na]CR[na]WL[461.828]
;B[la]CR[la]BL[545.585]
;W[ma]CR[ma]WL[452.511]
;B[lb]CR[lb]BL[543.668]
;W[qa]CR[qa]WL[435.033]
;B[lc]CR[lc]BL[503.394]C[Scribe [?\]: get liberty in corner then lock white in
]
;W[sa]CR[sa]WL[405.007]C[Bardock [4k\]: p19
torenaar [?\]: n16
drake [4k?\]: p19
Lilltiger [15k\]: tenuki?
quelquun [8k\]: p19
moichido [14k\]: p19
Zinc [19k?\]: p19
NEWS [10k\]: P19
Darkheart [12k\]: n16
agui [7k\]: p19
]
(;B[oa]CR[oa]BL[498.368]C[Scribe [?\]: p19 creates liberty by forcing white to play s19 before q19
]
(;W[cj]CR[cj]WL[342.536]
;B[mh]CR[mh]BL[491.164]C[atman [4k\]: game over
FlowerKing [6k\]: wow
Scribe [?\]: white has weak group, white moyo can not be converted to territory now
Moax [-\]: shape
Tweenie [?\]: right side
DrGoPlayer [4k\]: top side
FlowerKing [6k\]: lol
Ameise [10k?\]: direction of play
evilgo [3k\]: direction.. urgency
atman [4k\]: direction
ReeZe [16k\]: down left corner
inc0gnito [5d?\]: make own joseki's :-)
tukan [19k\]: hard to see such
Fatality [13k?\]: direction of play
Tweenie [?\]: avoid right side
quelquun [8k\]: e4 bad
agui [7k\]: The direction of play
agui [7k\]: on the right side
NEWS [10k\]: do not always follow joseki
Moax [-\]: make your own
DeSade [-\]: guess!
agui [7k\]: ok
Scribe [?\]: important points from the game: 1 direction of play: right side not interesting 2 choose joseki that fits the situation 3 if joseki does not fit situation, deviate from joseki
Bodo212 [14k\]: thank you
tukan [19k\]: thank you it was great!
moichido [14k\]: no thx =)
au2 [2k\]: thank you
NEWS [10k\]: thank you
rakdver [18k\]: thank you
agui [7k\]: ok Thank you very much
grassinger [15k\]: thank you
mingjiu [7p\]: yes
atman [4k\]: thank you very much
torenaar [?\]: thx
Schlumpf [?\]: Thanks a lot
betatron [16k\]: thanks
Zanthia [?\]: thankx
Centurion [9k\]: thank you
au2 [2k\]: thanks to ING FOUNDATION
Moax [-\]: thank you
Ambivlnce [14k\]: Thank you.
smuin [?\]: thanks
enjoe [16k?\]: thx
Fatality [13k?\]: thx
xMe [6k\]: thank you
moichido [14k\]: thx
Out [?\]: Thank you 
moh [9k\]: 谢谢
agui [7k\]: See you 
flogo [2k\]: happy new year !
Zinc [19k?\]: thx 
grassinger [15k\]: cu
handtalk [8k\]: merry New year guojuan
]
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;B[ji]CR[ji]BL[448.54]
;W[gf]CR[gf]WL[269.606]
;B[he]CR[he]BL[444.579]
;W[hf]CR[hf]WL[260.035]
;B[ce]CR[ce]BL[439.445]
;W[de]CR[de]WL[240.397]
;B[be]CR[be]BL[435.143]
;W[bc]CR[bc]WL[226.063]
;B[ch]CR[ch]BL[432.134]
;W[dh]CR[dh]WL[220.744]
;B[ci]CR[ci]BL[426.54]
;W[di]CR[di]WL[217.554]
;B[bj]CR[bj]BL[424.994]
;W[cg]CR[cg]WL[208.942]
;B[bg]CR[bg]BL[408.64]
;W[bk]CR[bk]WL[201.964]
;B[bi]CR[bi]BL[404.467]
;W[dk]CR[dk]WL[193.417]
;B[cl]CR[cl]BL[402.372]
;W[ck]CR[ck]WL[190.611]
;B[bd]CR[bd]BL[373.333]
;W[cc]CR[cc]WL[179.557]
;B[hp]CR[hp]BL[361.813]
;W[gp]CR[gp]WL[150]
;B[lp]CR[lp]BL[350]
;W[ln]CR[ln]WL[150]
;B[fn]CR[fn]BL[347.444]
;W[fo]CR[fo]WL[150]
;B[in]CR[in]BL[343.134]
;W[jp]CR[jp]WL[150]
;B[ko]CR[ko]BL[334.173]
;W[jo]CR[jo]WL[150]
;B[kn]CR[kn]BL[315.571]
;W[jn]CR[jn]WL[150]
;B[lr]CR[lr]BL[313.421]
;W[mr]CR[mr]WL[150]
;B[mq]CR[mq]BL[310.432]
;W[mp]CR[mp]WL[150]
;B[lq]CR[lq]BL[308.597]
;W[or]CR[or]WL[150]
;B[jm]CR[jm]BL[304.29]
;W[km]CR[km]WL[120]
;B[ir]CR[ir]BL[285.535]
;W[hr]CR[hr]WL[120]
;B[hq]CR[hq]BL[257.406]
;W[gr]CR[gr]WL[120]
;B[jq]CR[jq]BL[238.016]
;W[im]CR[im]WL[120]
;B[jl]CR[jl]BL[233.218]
;W[hn]CR[hn]WL[120]
;B[kp]CR[kp]BL[229.373]
;W[io]CR[io]WL[120]
;B[kl]CR[kl]BL[205.572]
;W[lm]CR[lm]WL[120]
;B[kr]CR[kr]BL[203.906]
;W[qm]CR[qm]WL[120]
;B[rm]CR[rm]BL[193.839]
;W[ql]CR[ql]WL[120]
;B[nl]CR[nl]BL[189.121]
;W[nm]CR[nm]WL[120]
;B[ri]CR[ri]BL[183.848]
;W[rl]CR[rl]WL[120]
;B[rn]CR[rn]BL[182.194]
;W[mk]CR[mk]WL[120]
;B[mj]CR[mj]BL[150]
;W[lk]CR[lk]WL[120]
;B[kj]CR[kj]BL[150]
;W[nk]CR[nk]WL[120]
;B[nj]CR[nj]BL[150]
;W[hc]CR[hc]WL[120]
;B[hd]CR[hd]BL[150]
;W[fb]CR[fb]WL[120]
;B[gb]CR[gb]BL[150]
;W[eb]CR[eb]WL[120]
;B[hb]CR[hb]BL[150]
;W[hi]CR[hi]WL[120]
;B[hk]CR[hk]BL[150]
;W[ij]CR[ij]WL[120]
;B[jj]CR[jj]BL[150]
;W[ik]CR[ik]WL[120]
;B[il]CR[il]BL[150]
;W[hl]CR[hl]WL[120]
;B[gl]CR[gl]BL[150]
;W[hm]CR[hm]WL[120]
;B[el]CR[el]BL[150]
;W[gk]CR[gk]WL[120]
;B[fk]CR[fk]BL[150]
;W[gj]CR[gj]WL[120]
;B[ej]CR[ej]BL[150]
;W[dj]CR[dj]WL[120]
;B[ih]CR[ih]BL[120]
;W[jg]CR[jg]WL[120]
;B[hh]CR[hh]BL[120]
;W[gh]CR[gh]WL[120]
;B[fj]CR[fj]BL[120]
;W[fi]CR[fi]WL[120]
;B[po]CR[po]BL[120]
;W[qr]CR[qr]WL[120]
;B[rq]CR[rq]BL[120]
;W[rr]CR[rr]WL[120]
;B[ro]CR[ro]BL[120]
;W[pr]CR[pr]WL[120]
;B[on]CR[on]BL[120]
;W[nn]CR[nn]WL[120]
;B[ol]CR[ol]BL[120]
;W[ok]CR[ok]WL[120]
;B[pl]CR[pl]BL[120]
;W[pk]CR[pk]WL[120]
;B[pm]CR[pm]BL[120]
;W[qj]CR[qj]WL[120]
;B[ml]CR[ml]BL[120]
;W[ll]CR[ll]WL[120]
;B[rk]CR[rk]BL[120]
;W[qk]CR[qk]WL[120]
;B[rj]CR[rj]BL[120]
;W[sl]CR[sl]WL[120]
;B[qq]CR[qq]BL[120]
;W[bm]CR[bm]WL[90]
;B[cm]CR[cm]BL[120]
;W[li]CR[li]WL[90]
;B[lj]CR[lj]BL[120]
;W[lh]CR[lh]WL[90]
;B[mi]CR[mi]BL[120]
;W[es]CR[es]WL[90]
;B[er]CR[er]BL[120]
;W[ds]CR[ds]WL[90]
;B[fs]CR[fs]BL[120]
;W[fr]CR[fr]WL[90]
;B[cs]CR[cs]BL[120]
;W[gs]CR[gs]WL[90]
;B[bn]CR[bn]BL[120]
;W[ak]CR[ak]WL[90]
;B[aj]CR[aj]BL[120]
;W[cr]CR[cr]WL[90]
;B[br]CR[br]BL[120]
;W[bs]CR[bs]WL[90]
;B[bl]CR[bl]BL[120]
;W[dl]CR[dl]WL[90]
;B[dm]CR[dm]BL[120]
;W[fm]CR[fm]WL[90]
;B[em]CR[em]BL[120]
;W[gn]CR[gn]WL[90]
;B[ac]CR[ac]BL[120]
;W[ab]CR[ab]WL[90]
;B[ad]CR[ad]BL[120]
;W[bb]CR[bb]WL[90]
;B[kf]CR[kf]BL[120]
;W[jh]CR[jh]WL[90]
;B[ms]CR[ms]BL[120]
;W[nr]CR[nr]WL[90]
;B[sr]CR[sr]BL[120]
;W[lo]CR[lo]WL[60]
;B[ei]CR[ei]BL[120]
;W[eh]CR[eh]WL[60]
;B[ii]CR[ii]BL[120]
;W[id]CR[id]WL[60]
;B[ie]CR[ie]BL[120]
;W[je]CR[je]WL[60]
;B[jf]CR[jf]BL[120]
;W[kg]CR[kg]WL[60]
;B[ke]CR[ke]BL[120]
;W[ig]CR[ig]WL[60]
;B[fe]CR[fe]BL[120]
;W[ff]CR[ff]WL[60]
;B[cf]CR[cf]BL[120]
;W[dg]CR[dg]WL[60]
;B[fl]CR[fl]BL[120]
;W[en]CR[en]WL[60]
;B[jk]CR[jk]BL[120]
;W[hj]CR[hj]WL[60]
;B[sh]CR[sh]BL[120]
;W[ar]CR[ar]WL[60]
;B[bq]CR[bq]BL[120]
;W[cs]CR[cs]WL[60]
;B[sg]CR[sg]BL[120]
;W[re]CR[re]WL[60]
;B[iq]CR[iq]BL[120]
;W[ao]CR[ao]WL[60]
;B[an]CR[an]BL[120]
;W[ga]CR[ga]WL[60]
;B[ha]CR[ha]BL[120]
;W[fa]CR[fa]WL[60]
;B[aq]CR[aq]BL[120]
;W[ge]CR[ge]WL[60]
;B[gd]CR[gd]BL[120]
;W[ns]CR[ns]WL[60]
;B[gm]CR[gm]BL[120]
;W[ho]CR[ho]WL[60]
;B[oo]CR[oo]BL[120]
;W[no]CR[no]WL[60]
;B[ls]CR[ls]BL[120]
;W[sm]CR[sm]WL[60]
;B[sn]CR[sn]BL[120]
;W[sf]CR[sf]WL[60]
;B[si]CR[si]BL[120]
;W[sk]CR[sk]WL[60]
;B[ee]CR[ee]BL[120]
;W[ef]CR[ef]WL[60]
;B[hg]CR[hg]BL[120]
;W[al]CR[al]WL[60]
;B[am]CR[am]BL[120]
;W[gg]CR[gg]WL[60]
;B[is]CR[is]BL[120]
;W[ki]CR[ki]WL[60]
;B[mm]CR[mm]BL[120]C[hattorix [3k\]: thx
Wangzi [3k\]: thanks

])
(;W[ra]CR[ra]
;B[md]CR[md]C[tukan [19k\]: B one liberty more than W
Koreangrl8 [20k\]: nice.
Bodo212 [14k\]: ok
])
(;W[mh]CR[mh]C[Scribe [?\]: n12 is vital point for both black and white
]
;B[nj]CR[nj]
;W[oh]CR[oh]
;B[pi]CR[pi]
;W[mj]CR[mj]
;B[mk]CR[mk]
;W[nk]CR[nk]))
(;B[md]CR[md]C[Scribe [?\]: p19
xMe [6k\]: p19
FlowerKing [6k\]: p19 only move
]
;W[oa]CR[oa]C[Darkheart [12k\]: ohh
Scribe [?\]: black dead
Darkheart [12k\]: seki
Scribe [?\]: self atari!
Darkheart [12k\]: oeps,lol sorry
]))
(;B[mh]CR[mh]))
(;W[mh]CR[mh]C[Scribe [?\]: white should have ataried at n12!
]
;B[nb]CR[nb]
;W[oh]CR[oh]
;B[pi]CR[pi]
;W[nj]CR[nj]
;B[ok]CR[ok]
;W[nk]CR[nk]
;B[ol]CR[ol]
;W[nl]CR[nl]
;B[pm]CR[pm]))
(;W[og]CR[og]
;B[pi]TR[oi][pi][oj]C[Grimley [9k\]: p11 at q11 immediate
Scribe [?\]: Empyt triangle
Koreangrl8 [20k\]: "dumpling shape"
]))
(;B[nj]CR[nj]C[Scribe [?\]: double hane avoids empty triangle
]))
(;B[nd]CR[nd]))
(;W[oe]CR[oe]C[DrGoPlayer [4k\]: die
quelquun [8k\]: o18?
Scribe [?\]: white has strong attack on black here
]
;B[nb]CR[nb]
;W[mc]CR[mc]
;B[mb]CR[mb]
;W[lc]CR[lc]
;B[lb]CR[lb]
;W[kc]CR[kc]C[Bardock [4k\]: no
Lilltiger [15k\]: no
NEWS [10k\]: no
agui [7k\]: no
nachtrabe [16k\]: W is.
quelquun [8k\]: ok
moichido [14k\]: no
]))
(;B[nd]CR[nd]C[Darkheart [12k\]: o16 for black ?
Darkheart [12k\]: ;)
]))
(;B[og]CR[og]C[Scribe [?\]: shape move
Scribe [?\]: after this shape move hard for white to escape (run out)
Darkheart [12k\]: why not q13 instead p13 ?
agui [7k\]: L18 ?
]
(;W[le]CR[le]
;B[ld]CR[ld]
;W[md]CR[md]
;B[me]CR[me]C[xMe [6k\]: nothing
])
(;W[kb]CR[kb]
;B[jc]CR[jc]C[Jenny12yrs [16k\]: koerao jlokks ioepad epill; akjoep cmio
moichido [14k\]: hardly
agui [7k\]: ok thanks
Scribe [?\]: L18 only playable if you are sure you can live
Jenny12yrs [16k\]: oops
Scribe [?\]: no one can say for sure white can live there
])))
(;W[le]CR[le]C[agui [7k\]: good
Scribe [?\]: white should run out
]))
(;AE[kd]AW[jd]C[tukan [19k\]: yes
]
;W[ec]CR[ec]
;B[fd]CR[fd]
;W[df]CR[df]C[Scribe [?\]: now the touch is very good move
Lilltiger [15k\]: yes
NEWS [10k\]: yup
playm8 [5k?\]: yes
Bodo212 [14k\]: clear
moichido [14k\]: yep
Scribe [?\]: white attacks black , black space is constrainted
])
(;W[df]CR[df]C[Lilltiger [15k\]: f16
quelquun [8k\]: c14?
tukan [19k\]: like d14
])
(;W[cf]CR[cf]C[agui [7k\]: C14
]
;B[fe]CR[fe]
;W[ne]CR[ne])
(;W[fd]CR[fd]C[Scribe [?\]: touches weaker black stone, often wrong in even games
FlowerKing [6k\]: if you want to make shape quickly
handtalk [8k\]: w d10
zee [5k?\]: ok when double pincer
Lilltiger [15k\]: when white has stone at d10 area?
quelquun [8k\]: if you wnat a moyo on the left
agui [7k\]: when defendenging
Bardock [4k\]: when white has stones to form the moyo
]
;B[gd]CR[gd])
(;AE[kd]AB[jd]
;W[fd]CR[fd]
;B[gd]CR[gd]
;W[gc]CR[gc]
;B[eb]CR[eb]
;W[ec]CR[ec]
;B[fb]CR[fb]
;W[db]CR[db]
;B[cc]CR[cc]
;W[dc]CR[dc]
;B[fe]CR[fe]
;W[ed]CR[ed]
;B[hc]CR[hc]
;W[ge]CR[ge]
;B[hd]CR[hd]
;W[ff]CR[ff]C[Scribe [?\]: black a little overconcentrated
Scribe [?\]: k16 is too close to other stones
Scribe [?\]: white must have huge moyo on the left side
Scribe [?\]: to make this correct choice
]))
(;B[qh]CR[qh]TR[qf][rf][qg][rg]C[agui [7k\]: black  develops first on top
Lilltiger [15k\]: 3 purposes
Lilltiger [15k\]: moyo, attack, defend
]))
(;B[pf]CR[pf]
;W[pb]CR[pb]
;B[ob]CR[ob]
;W[qb]CR[qb]
;B[oc]CR[oc]
;W[ic]CR[ic]C[agui [7k\]: Great !
Scribe [?\]: white switches direction, makes corner safe, then limits black development on top
]))
(;W[pb]CR[pb]
;B[ob]CR[ob]
;W[qb]CR[qb]
;B[oc]CR[oc]
;W[qf]CR[qf]
;B[fc]CR[fc]
;W[cf]CR[cf]
;B[db]CR[db]
;W[cc]CR[cc]
;B[hd]CR[hd]C[Scribe [?\]: Great for Black!
Scribe [?\]: White development very constrained
moichido [14k\]: yes
DnF [8k\]: yes
Bodo212 [14k\]: ok
Lilltiger [15k\]: yes
agui [7k\]: yes
xMe [6k\]: yes
FlowerKing [6k\]: yes, thats very useful
NEWS [10k\]: yes
tukan [19k\]: make up your own joseki :)))
]))
(;W[ne]CR[ne]
;B[pf]CR[pf]
;W[id]CR[id]
;B[kf]CR[kf]
;W[ng]CR[ng]C[FlowerKing [6k\]: yes
agui [7k\]: yes
NEWS [10k\]: yes
xMe [6k\]: yes
Scribe [?\]: black taking the uninteresting right side
Scribe [?\]: white moyo will be useful here
]))
(;B[qf]CR[qf]C[Scribe [?\]: Right side is not interesting to either player
Scribe [?\]: so r14 is wrong directdion
Lilltiger [15k\]: white bests move is blacks best move :)
]))
(;W[qf]CR[qf]TR[qn]C[evilgo [3k\]: the top is the focus area for whites upper left stone
handtalk [8k\]: not open side
au2 [2k\]: b r6 in place
flogo [2k\]: because there is r6
Scribe [?\]: Which is better for White r14 or o17, question of direction of play
DrGoPlayer [4k\]: r6 makes bad
agui [7k\]: because it must extend towards the strong shape on the right
atman [4k\]: black position is very solid
mmm1 [?\]: w r8 makes good r14?
]))
(;B[fn]CR[fn]
;W[fo]CR[fo]TR[fp][eq]C[Scribe [?\]: White atari at f4 is bad move, give Black forcing at f6
Scribe [?\]: trades f4 for e3, e3 helps black
]))
(;W[do]CR[do]
;B[bp]CR[bp]
;W[bo]CR[bo]
;B[bq]CR[bq]
;W[dm]CR[dm]))
(;B[ci]CR[ci]
;W[hq]CR[hq]C[handtalk [8k\]: w e2 protect
DrGoPlayer [4k\]: e2 threat
]
(;B[ep]CR[ep]C[Scribe [?\]: E4 helps white a lot
Scribe [?\]: but must be played after white H3
]
;W[do]CR[do]
;B[bp]CR[bp]
;W[bo]CR[bo]
;B[bq]CR[bq]
;W[co]CR[co]C[Bodo212 [14k\]: yes
])
(;B[]C[atman [4k\]: prevents e2
]
;W[er]CR[er]
;B[eq]CR[eq]
;W[fr]CR[fr])
(;B[bp]CR[bp]C[Scribe [?\]: very wrong
Scribe [?\]: the order is very important
]
;W[bo]CR[bo]
;B[bq]CR[bq]
;W[co]CR[co]C[Scribe [?\]: now E4 is ineffective
]
;B[ep]CR[ep]C[Bardock [4k\]: no
Scribe [?\]: hane first is wrong...ineffective
Moax [-\]: no
ReeZe [16k\]: no
agui [7k\]: no
Bardock [4k\]: no
]
;W[dn]CR[dn]))
(;B[hp]CR[hp]TR[go]C[Scribe [?\]: H4 walks ahead of the White stones
Scribe [?\]: good move
]))
(;W[nc]CR[nc])
(;W[qq]CR[qq]))
(;W[dn]CR[dn]
;B[kq]CR[kq]C[Scribe [?\]: mini-chinese
ReeZe [16k\]: ranks ?
Wangzi [3k\]: they are both 3k
Koreangrl8 [20k\]: there is mini chinese and "high chinese"right?
]
;W[qj]CR[qj]C[DrGoPlayer [4k\]: yes k
]
(;B[qk]CR[qk])
(;B[pk]CR[pk])
(;B[qf]CR[qf]
;W[qm]CR[qm])))