(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[900]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[guojuan]PB[guojuan]WR[5p]BR[5p]DT[2005-01-02]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]AW[dc][mc][oc][ce][qi][qo]AB[nd][qd][pe][cp][ep][np][pq]C[playm8 [5k?\]: hi :)
GMF [10k?\]: hello
hansb [3k?\]: hi
Bodo212 [14k\]: hello
Scribe [?\]: Nihao Guojuan
Bodo212 [14k\]: no
Bardock [4k\]: great
MysticoN [29k?\]: Ver nice
au2 [2k\]: happy new year 
Scribe [?\]: Wonderful
GMF [10k?\]: yes thank you. was very funny..
MysticoN [29k?\]: Very
Grimley [8k\]: yeah way too much
swilks [6k\]: good
smuin [?\]: too much
Bodo212 [14k\]: sleeping!
playm8 [5k?\]: happy new year :-)
playm8 [5k?\]: yes
GMF [10k?\]: yes
NEWS [10k\]: yes
mmm1 [?\]: yes
MysticoN [29k?\]: yes
Bodo212 [14k\]: yes
Wook [-\]: yes perfeclty
playm8 [5k?\]: it's great
TorEgil [12k\]: loud and clear
MysticoN [29k?\]: yep
agui [7k\]: Hello, happy new year !
Bodo212 [14k\]: ok
GMF [10k?\]: its okay
Scribe [?\]: sound is good
Woodstock [-\]: yes, fine
seidelin [8k\]: sounds is fine
jbb [16k\]: yes, well
Zanthia [?\]: yes
Scribe [?\]: Fuseki Problem
Harriman [3k\]: hello all
MadFerret [-\]: hi @ all
Scribe [?\]: White stone missing ??
GMF [10k?\]: attack the right?!
dedain [10k\]: shouldn't white play?
Grimley [8k\]: too many black stones?
sanjose [4k\]: q7
playgo [4k\]: is it whites move ?
au2 [2k\]: R8
MysticoN [29k?\]: P6
seidelin [8k\]: d10
projo [8k\]: d10
jbb [16k\]: c10
rhubarb [8k\]: c10
atman [5k\]: c11
Grimley [8k\]: whose turn is it????
spingle [9k\]: r8
smudge [12k\]: C10
GMF [10k?\]: R8 !!!
au2 [2k\]: R8
FLgator [5k\]: R8
agui [7k\]: R9
Scribe [?\]: A White stone is missing
hansb [3k?\]: R9
playm8 [5k?\]: R9 looks fun
Woodstock [-\]: D10
seidelin [8k\]: o17
Grimley [8k\]: white stone missing
GMF [10k?\]: R8 R8 R8 R8 R8 R8 R8 R8 
MysticoN [29k?\]: Black P6
NEWS [10k\]: R9
Woodstock [-\]: looks better ^^
Scribe [?\]: Big stone
GMF [10k?\]: R8 R8 R8 
au2 [2k\]: R8
agui [7k\]: R9
Harriman [3k\]: r9
rhubarb [8k\]: r9
DrGoPlayer [4k\]: q18
Woodstock [-\]: R4
playm8 [5k?\]: looks just as large as all the other stones though
FLgator [5k\]: J17
sanjose [4k\]: r8
playgo [4k\]: O17 
GMF [10k?\]: R8 
Weirdsel [7k\]: K17 / L17
GMF [10k?\]: -.-
seidelin [8k\]: p6
Scribe [?\]: M16 stablizes Black group up top
Scribe [?\]: White to play
Harriman [3k\]: q7
NEWS [10k\]: Q9?
GMF [10k?\]: Q8 ?!
Woodstock [-\]: N16?
playgo [4k\]: Q7 
Scribe [?\]: q7
TorEgil [12k\]: r8
rhubarb [8k\]: q8
smudge [12k\]: Q8
seidelin [8k\]: p6
DrGoPlayer [4k\]: n16
FLgator [5k\]: How about R8R17
FLgator [5k\]: R17
GMF [10k?\]: thank you
agui [7k\]: thanks
]
(;B[ic]CR[ic]C[Scribe [?\]: White will get sente and leave Black with a weak group in the upper right, preventing Black from invading on the right
]
;W[md]CR[md]
;B[fc]CR[fc]C[Scribe [?\]: J17 very good move, but one problem
Woodstock [-\]: maybe too early
]
;W[qc]CR[qc]
;B[rc]CR[rc]
;W[pc]CR[pc])
(;B[pl]CR[pl]C[TorEgil [12k\]: attack the stronger one of the 2 white stones on right side
]
;W[oi]CR[oi]C[Scribe [?\]: Q8 very very good, attack weak white stones first
]
;B[ld]CR[ld]C[Scribe [?\]: before top
playm8 [5k?\]: yes
Celila [-\]: yes
GMF [10k?\]: very clear
]
;W[md]CR[md]
;B[me]CR[me]
;W[lb]CR[lb]
;B[le]CR[le]
;W[jc]CR[jc])
(;B[]TR[nd][qd][pe][qj][qk][ql][qm][qn][np][pq]C[playm8 [5k?\]: yes
NEWS [10k\]: yes
agui [7k\]: yes, very clear
playm8 [5k?\]: but how to defend best?
seidelin [8k\]: is q8 only good move?
GMF [10k?\]: what is the maximum for space between two stones in the situation?!
MysticoN [29k?\]: isnt   K 4 a good move for white ?
playm8 [5k?\]: yes
agui [7k\]: yes
Celila [-\]: yes, ;-)
Harriman [3k\]: y
NEWS [10k\]: yes
GMF [10k?\]: what is the maximum for space between two stones in the situation?!
Scribe [?\]: White is too wide on the right, black is relatively stronger on both top and bottom
Bodo212 [14k\]: clear
agui [7k\]: is R9 good ?
Harriman [3k\]: what about 3rd line vs 4th line?
]
(;W[pl]CR[pl]C[Woodstock [-\]: Q7/8 looks a little slow
Weirdsel [7k\]: Q13
])
(;W[qq]CR[qq]
;B[qr]CR[qr]
;W[pp]CR[pp]
;B[oq]CR[oq]C[agui [7k\]: yes
]
;W[rq]CR[rq]C[GMF [10k?\]: yo
]
;B[cj]CR[cj]
;W[qg]CR[qg]
;B[ql]CR[ql]C[Scribe [?\]: R10 maximum extension from White R5.  White is strong on both ends of the group.
]))
(;B[ql]CR[ql]
;W[qg]CR[qg]C[Scribe [?\]: WHite can not expand up top, not enough space
playm8 [5k?\]: yes
seidelin [8k\]: yes
logik [12k?\]: yes
projo [8k\]: yes
Woodstock [-\]: so R11 is generally a bad move here?
GMF [10k?\]: yes
Scribe [?\]: Therefore R11 is too far
XiaoLin [2k\]: it is said that one should play extensions so opponent can't play in the middle :)
agui [7k\]: ok
jbb [16k\]: ok
DnF [9k\]: ok
playm8 [5k?\]: ok
abbadan [?\]: ok
]))