(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[900]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[guojuan]PB[guojuan]WR[5p]BR[5p]DT[2005-01-02]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]AW[nc][qc][pd][de][cf][dg][ck][ek][mp][op][pp][jq][qq][rq]AB[dc][fc][cd][rd][ce][qf][qj][cm][nn][pn][qo][cp][qp][eq]C[Bodo212 [14k\]: hi
jbb [16k\]: hello again
playm8 [5k?\]: yes
Celila [-\]: yes
moichido [14k\]: yüa
NEWS [10k\]: yes
Bodo212 [14k\]: yes
seidelin [8k\]: fine
Scribe [?\]: Fuseki Problem....very easy
playgo [4k\]: sound problem
Celila [-\]: no, ok again
Scribe [?\]: Black to Play
DnF [9k\]: P14
mmm1 [?\]: q12
cemo [?\]: j17
GMF [10k?\]: P14 ?!
moichido [14k\]: j17
Woodstock [-\]: K17
Snuva [11k?\]: L17
seidelin [8k\]: m17
agui [7k\]: p14
rhubarb [8k\]: m17
hansb [3k?\]: P14
Grimley [8k\]: m17
olczyk [15k\]: o14
NEWS [10k\]: L17
MadFerret [-\]: m17
Kumquat [1k\]: Q12
BrunnenG [16k?\]: M17
abbadan [?\]: k 16
Celila [-\]: k17
moichido [14k\]: S17
GMF [10k?\]: P14 ?!
MoyoJojo [17k\]: K10
pedro69 [13k?\]: k17
Nesco [9k?\]: L17
rosecroix [9k?\]: o14
Ives08 [9k\]: Q14?
Weirdsel [7k\]: P14
Harriman [3k\]: h3
MysticoN [29k?\]: isnt the group in the lower left weak ?
jbb [16k\]: O14
projo [8k\]: h3
FLgator [5k\]: P14
dedain [10k\]: h3
moichido [14k\]: S17
Woodstock [-\]: lower left is very strong
kolben [1k?\]: q12
GMF [10k?\]: no mysticon
MysticoN [29k?\]: okey
Harriman [3k\]: o13
GMF [10k?\]: it is a solid result outa a joseky
seidelin [8k\]: o14
MoyoJojo [17k\]: lol
Weirdsel [7k\]: or O10...
GMF [10k?\]: P14 
GMF [10k?\]: E14 ?!
Kumquat [1k\]: R12
hansb [3k?\]: R12
VorteXR [13k?\]: Q18?
au2 [2k\]: R12
moichido [14k\]: S§
Grimley [8k\]: no
moichido [14k\]: S3
rhubarb [8k\]: r12
monchacha [11k\]: no
cemo [?\]: no
dedain [10k\]: r12?
spingle [9k\]: r12
Tictactoe [-\]: unexpected End of File?
Scribe [?\]: 1. Any weakness in Black's shape ?
Nesco [9k?\]: S17
atman [5k\]: yes
MysticoN [29k?\]: The right side is weak
Grimley [8k\]: no serious weaknesses
playgo [4k\]: R12 
Bodo212 [14k\]: no
tibra [10k?\]: R12
Celila [-\]: tictactoe - rejoin
moichido [14k\]: WEAKNESS AT S4 !!
MoyoJojo [17k\]: it's already in balance
GMF [10k?\]: P14 !
Scribe [?\]: Open at S4 not weakness
Tictactoe [-\]: yes 
playm8 [5k?\]: yes
avalange [?\]: r
GMF [10k?\]: does P14 
rhubarb [8k\]: q12
seidelin [8k\]: o14
GMF [10k?\]: work?!
agui [7k\]: p14
Bodo212 [14k\]: p 14
Harriman [3k\]: p11
zee [5k?\]: p14
GMF [10k?\]: P14 P14 P14 P14 P14 
Scribe [?\]: Its okay
]
(;B[hq]CR[hq]LB[gq:A]C[Scribe [?\]: Black must defend weakness at R12
abbadan [?\]: aha
Scribe [?\]: Very big move, not urgent, big for both sides
zee [5k?\]: big for both
Scribe [?\]: Corner is closed to Black, must run to the center
Scribe [?\]: Best move just defend at q12
]
(;W[qh]CR[qh]TR[qc][rd]C[Woodstock [-\]: no
Woodstock [-\]: not urgent
Scribe [?\]: R12 Urgent !!
])
(;AE[qc][rd]AB[of]C[zee [5k?\]: best move is to defend at Q12
Celila [-\]: yes
spingle [9k\]: yeah
playm8 [5k?\]: yes
agui [7k\]: yes
moichido [14k\]: yes
seidelin [8k\]: yes
vinhxuan [14k\]: yep
Tictactoe [-\]: S16 has made a commitment
hansb [3k?\]: what about P14?
Scribe [?\]: If Black does not want to defend at q12 then DO NOT play s16
Mop [12k?\]: please tell us about P14
MadFerret [-\]: yes
])
(;AB[ph])
(;AB[of]LB[of:B][ph:A]C[Scribe [?\]: After the S16 exchange, P14 possible
Scribe [?\]: Black P14 can be defeated by White Q13
seidelin [8k\]: okay
Tictactoe [-\]: all this without h3 on the board
Scribe [?\]: White is very strong in the top right.  Black must be relatively strong as well.  Q12 is very strong. P14 is not strong enough
Bodo212 [14k\]: thanks
agui [7k\]: yes very clear ! Thanks
Woodstock [-\]: understood
Scribe [?\]: Leaves weakness
playm8 [5k?\]: clear
projo [8k\]: ye
avalange [?\]: clear
jbb [16k\]: thank you
mingjiu [7p\]: yes
]
;W[pg]CR[pg]
;B[pf]CR[pf]
;W[qg]CR[qg]
(;B[nh]CR[nh]
;W[rf]CR[rf]C[Mop [12k?\]: indeed, thanks
]
;B[re]CR[re]
;W[rh]CR[rh]C[kyo [8k\]: R11 
]
;B[qd]CR[qd]
;W[qi]CR[qi]C[seidelin [8k\]: t14
]
;B[rj]CR[rj]C[Scribe [?\]: not easy to kill this White group at r13
]
;W[pj]CR[pj])
(;B[rf]CR[rf]
;W[pi]CR[pi])))
(;B[]C[agui [7k\]: yes , thanks
Tictactoe [-\]: exchange S16-R17
GMF [10k?\]: P14 
Nesco [9k?\]: R11
GMF [10k?\]: what i sabout P14 ?!
MoyoJojo [17k\]: lol
galopin [12k?\]: but r10 to close now
]
(;W[qh]CR[qh]C[avalange [?\]: r17
moichido [14k\]: q13
hansb [3k?\]: R17
atman [5k\]: r17
agui [7k\]: r16
Scribe [?\]: Black is heavy, corner is closed
Scribe [?\]: Q15 dan level move
]
(;B[qc]CR[qc]
;W[qd]CR[qd]C[Scribe [?\]: Black can take the corner.  Easy
]
;B[rd]CR[rd]
;W[re]CR[re]
;B[rc]CR[rc]
;W[qe]CR[qe]
;B[ob]CR[ob])
(;AB[pe]))
(;AB[ph]C[playgo [4k\]: Q12 
Scribe [?\]: Black s16 is ajikeshi
avalange [?\]: q12 
Scribe [?\]: Q12 normal defense
GMF [10k?\]: but what about P14 for black?! oO
])
(;AB[pe])))