(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]
PW[mingjiu]PB[mingjiu]WR[7p]BR[7p]DT[2005-01-16]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[playgo [4k\]: hi
jbb [14k\]: hello
Chocobovn [7k\]: hi
Bodo212 [14k\]: hello
]
;B[dc]CR[dc]
;W[cc]CR[cc]
;B[ec]CR[ec]
;W[cd]CR[cd]
;B[fc]CR[fc]
;W[ce]CR[ce]
(;B[ed]CR[ed]C[Bodo212 [14k\]: no sound yet?
])
(;B[gb]CR[gb]
;W[ed]CR[ed]
;B[hb]CR[hb]
;W[ee]CR[ee]C[Aristocles [12k?\]: not for me
]
;B[fa]CR[fa]
;W[gc]CR[gc]C[richieb [21k?\]: or me
kjp [6k\]: sound of stones hitting the board
tablescrap [4k\]: hes just setting up I guess
]
;B[]
;W[gd]CR[gd]
(;B[ic]CR[ic])
(;B[]C[Uvas [-\]: no audio yet
]
;W[ic]CR[ic]
;B[]
;W[ib]CR[ib]
;B[]
;W[hc]CR[hc]C[Uvas [-\]: maybe this was homework from last week?
Uvas [-\]: I missed last weeks lecture
Uvas [-\]: hello
rhubarb [8k\]: hello
Chocobovn [7k\]: hello
Scribe [?\]: Hello
Stav [7k\]: hello!
Bardock [4k\]: hi
lazy [?\]: lol i almost posted this one 2 days ago.. :)
Galerkin [9k\]: hello
Scribe [?\]: yes
Bardock [4k\]: yes
Bodo212 [14k\]: hello yes
swilks [6k\]: hi
Santa [7k\]: hello mingjui
pedro69 [13k?\]: hi
Aristocles [12k?\]: yes
jbb [14k\]: hellom yes
DrGoPlayer [4k\]: yes
swilks [6k\]: yes
maruseru [?\]: hello. yes
olczyk [15k\]: yes
smuin [?\]: hi can hear u
richieb [21k?\]: yes
iveseen [13k\]: a bit low volume
Scribe [?\]: we can hear you Mingjiu Laoshi
kjp [6k\]: low sound
Chocobovn [7k\]: hardly hear
Uvas [-\]: ok
MysticoN [24k\]: black live ?
Aristocles [12k?\]: i need to think abou it
Santa [7k\]: black to play?
kjp [6k\]: better sound now
Bardock [4k\]: white
Stav [7k\]: white 
Aristocles [12k?\]: white
Uvas [-\]: w kills?
agui [7k\]: Hello
Santa [7k\]: easy for black to make an eye
DrGoPlayer [4k\]: c18
MysticoN [24k\]: white play D18
Santa [7k\]: D19?
Scribe [?\]: Black can live easily on the move.
MysticoN [24k\]: white play D 18
Scribe [?\]: Therefore it is White's turn to play
Scribe [?\]: 3 minutes to determine the result
dal [4k\]: mysticon: black lives with that, e18 is sente
Gruffalo [-\]: C19 
Santa [7k\]: hmm just H19 maybe
FLgator [5k\]: Ko?
jbb [14k\]: H19 seems to live
Chocobovn [7k\]: finding a certain kill...
kalim [14k\]: e19?
olczyk [15k\]: E18 makes D18 and H19 miai
laole [2d\]: e18 and c19?
subway [12k\]: d19
Stav [7k\]: E18
Bardock [4k\]: 4 ways
Aristocles [12k?\]: we18, bd18, wh19
Uvas [-\]: is mingjiu talking? I can't hear
Uvas [-\]: oh
tablescrap [4k\]: looks simply h19
MysticoN [24k\]: C18 then h19 and then E18
prefer [7k?\]: w c18
MysticoN [24k\]: for white
Uvas [-\]: i go with h19
okhna [15k\]: d19
lefuet [9k\]: c19
Fleymen [18k\]: H19 - g19 - E19 maybe?
Chocobovn [7k\]: e18
skyvie [16k\]: D19 
nish [?\]: d18
agui [7k\]: E18
MysticoN [24k\]: E18 first
bneeman [18k\]: e18 first, yes
MysticoN [24k\]: then H19
Uvas [-\]: hey nish
kjp [6k\]: c19 - h19 - e19
laole [2d\]: c19 best
HitaruNoGo [16k\]: hmm
MysticoN [24k\]: E18 - H19
MysticoN [24k\]: problem solved
spingle [9k\]: e18?
kalim [14k\]: white d19
bneeman [18k\]: e18 - c18?
kalim [14k\]: if e18
Uvas [-\]: longest 3 minutes in my life
HitaruNoGo [16k\]: h19
Sero [-\]: lol
cropette [3k\]: ^^
changeling [?\]: lol
MysticoN [24k\]: black must answer if white play E18
HitaruNoGo [16k\]: blacks play for life
MysticoN [24k\]: then white can play H19
bneeman [18k\]: but black can answer E18 with C18
laole [2d\]: h19 also works :)
Bardock [4k\]: 10...9.8
DrGoPlayer [4k\]: d19
Bardock [4k\]: lol
HitaruNoGo [16k\]: h19 then e18
Centurion [9k\]: d19
MysticoN [24k\]: no
Aristocles [12k?\]: go
MysticoN [24k\]: E18
prefer [7k?\]: i hear you
MysticoN [24k\]: then H19
subway [12k\]: d19
jbb [14k\]: hear you too
Bardock [4k\]: 4 ways to kill
Chocobovn [7k\]: ok, stop guessing
Uvas [-\]: b dead
MysticoN [24k\]: E18 then H19 .. white win
spingle [9k\]: w wins
Fleymen [18k\]: I think H19.
SecondMoon [13k\]: loud and clear
HitaruNoGo [16k\]: no h19 first
iveseen [13k\]: sound is still a bit low
Gruffalo [-\]: C19 kills
olczyk [15k\]: e18 
Uvas [-\]: h19 b dead
kjp [6k\]: c19 kills
Tictactoe [-\]: pretty good solution for a 24k :)
MysticoN [24k\]: :=)
Bardock [4k\]: yes
rhubarb [8k\]: yes
zee [8k\]: y
Chocobovn [7k\]: yes
slarti [12k\]: yes
]
;B[]C[MysticoN [24k\]: E18 then H19 PLZ
MysticoN [24k\]: :D
rhubarb [8k\]: e18 
Bardock [4k\]: hi
MysticoN [24k\]: E18 and H19
kalim [14k\]: i dont he can
MysticoN [24k\]: 'try that
Aristocles [12k?\]: black is dead
Bardock [4k\]: white cannot kill
rhubarb [8k\]: white can kill
atman [4k\]: white can kill without ko
kalim [14k\]: he has to many libs
Uvas [-\]: w kill with h19
iveseen [13k\]: d 19?
Ermac [10k\]: c18 and then e19 or h19
subway [12k\]: d19
Ermac [10k\]: c18
HitaruNoGo [16k\]: the results
MysticoN [24k\]: try E18 first
MysticoN [24k\]: then H19
Scribe [?\]: Audio lag is so great that it is hard to match the audio to the diagrams
wrong [1k?\]: we played that
]
(;W[cb]CR[cb]C[wrong [1k?\]: if W h19, does B have ko?
MysticoN [24k\]: doesnt
Bamsen [4k?\]: b h19
]
;B[ha]CR[ha]LB[da:A]TR[dd][fd]C[MysticoN [24k\]: yes
MysticoN [24k\]: the white answe D18
Bardock [4k\]: 3 ways
])
(;W[ha]CR[ha]C[Chocobovn [7k\]: e18 plz
maruseru [?\]: yes
wrong [1k?\]: c18
]
;B[cb]CR[cb]C[HitaruNoGo [16k\]: white can't d18
Aristocles [12k?\]: still scratchy
agui [7k\]: C18
MysticoN [24k\]: black lives
lazy [?\]: w can e18 instea of b18
]
(;W[bb]CR[bb]C[wrong [1k?\]: e18
]
;B[eb]CR[eb]C[olczyk [15k\]: e18 makes h19 and d18 miai
HitaruNoGo [16k\]: c19
lazy [?\]: e18
wrong [1k?\]: ko
Uvas [-\]: c19
atman [4k\]: ko
Bardock [4k\]: ko
kjp [6k\]: ko
Chocobovn [7k\]: ko
])
(;W[eb]CR[eb]C[lazy [?\]: dead :)
FireFox04 [12k\]: E19
abbadan [11k?\]: no. b16 for b?
lazy [?\]: so a18 instead ;)
]
(;B[db]CR[db]C[lazy [?\]: b18,d18 miai
]
;W[bb]CR[bb])
(;B[bc]CR[bc]C[Sero [-\]: i dont think so
bneeman [18k\]: i think the sound is lagging maruseru
lazy [?\]: 1-2?
spingle [9k\]: there is always a bit of lag
]
(;W[db]CR[db]C[Uvas [-\]: f18?
]
;B[da]CR[da]
;W[bb]CR[bb]C[wrong [1k?\]: ko
]
;B[ba]CR[ba]C[Scribe [?\]: With the outside liberties it is hard for White to kill Black
HitaruNoGo [16k\]: ko
lazy [?\]: :(
maruseru [?\]: is the sound in sync?
HitaruNoGo [16k\]: ko for life
])
(;W[bb]CR[bb]C[lazy [?\]: a18
]
;B[ba]CR[ba]
;W[ab]CR[ab]
;B[ac]CR[ac]
;W[db]CR[db]C[iveseen [13k\]: c19 ?
]
;B[da]CR[da])
(;W[ba]CR[ba]C[agui [7k\]: B18
abbadan [11k?\]: b18?
MysticoN [24k\]: black B18
Jakobicek [17k\]: yup scribe right
]
(;B[bb]CR[bb]C[moichido [14k\]: b18
]
;W[fb]CR[fb]
;B[db]CR[db]C[Scribe [?\]: all rules white fills at a19
]
;W[ga]CR[ga]C[atman [4k\]: black lives
]
;B[bd]CR[bd]
;W[be]CR[be]C[MysticoN [24k\]: White just play A19
]
;B[ad]CR[ad]
;W[ab]CR[ab]C[moichido [14k\]: no
MysticoN [24k\]: Black dead =(
agui [7k\]: no
Scribe [?\]: where is ko here
Scribe [?\]: this is dead, no?
spingle [9k\]: bc19?
Tictactoe [-\]: yes black is dead according to nihon rules
MysticoN [24k\]: yes
])
(;B[db]CR[db]
;W[bb]CR[bb]C[prefer [7k?\]: c19?
agui [7k\]: yes
]
;B[ca]CR[ca]C[prefer [7k?\]: for black
]))
(;W[ab]CR[ab]C[lazy [?\]: dead, no?
lazy [?\]: yup :)
Santa [7k\]: black is clever
]
(;B[db]CR[db]
;W[bb]CR[bb])
(;B[bb]CR[bb]
;W[fb]CR[fb]C[laole [2d\]: black lives
]
;B[db]CR[db]C[lazy [?\]: f18
]
;W[ga]CR[ga]C[lazy [?\]: dehehehead :)
Akamaru [6k\]: a17
MysticoN [24k\]: black lives ?
wrong [1k?\]: b16
lazy [?\]: even if i remmber it working vs me a while ago.. ;p
]
;B[bd]CR[bd]C[MysticoN [24k\]: yes
]
;W[be]CR[be]C[HitaruNoGo [16k\]: hmm
HitaruNoGo [16k\]: no black dies
]
(;B[ad]CR[ad]
;W[da]CR[da]C[HitaruNoGo [16k\]: black will live there
])
(;B[aa]CR[aa]
;W[ba]CR[ba]C[Scribe [?\]: Still dead
MysticoN [24k\]: yes
Bardock [4k\]: dead
rhubarb [8k\]: bent four
]))
(;B[ba]CR[ba]C[MysticoN [24k\]: ag
MysticoN [24k\]: ah
lazy [?\]: :S
wrong [1k?\]: he he, in my language "ko" means "who" ;)
]
;W[db]CR[db]C[MysticoN [24k\]: white cant escape A18
]
;B[da]CR[da]C[Ceras [4k\]: ko ?
HitaruNoGo [16k\]: look same ko to me
lazy [?\]: yup... :(
Ceras [4k\]: yup =\]
])))))
(;W[db]CR[db]
;B[eb]CR[eb]
;W[ca]CR[ca]
;B[ha]CR[ha]C[wrong [1k?\]: here, both are clever, since both pros :)
HitaruNoGo [16k\]: thats life
Scribe [?\]: Ko
]
;W[ea]CR[ea]C[lazy [?\]: lol
MysticoN [24k\]: Black lives
])
(;W[ca]CR[ca]C[agui [7k\]: e18
]
;B[ha]CR[ha]
(;W[ea]CR[ea]C[Bardock [4k\]: d19
lazy [?\]: ko
laole [2d\]: no ko
wrong [1k?\]: d18
lazy [?\]: because of the corner
Bamsen [4k?\]: d18, c18, b19
Gruffalo [-\]: C18
]
;B[db]CR[db]C[Scribe [?\]: White loses corner stones. 
]
;W[da]CR[da]C[laole [2d\]: black lives
]
;B[cb]CR[cb]C[wrong [1k?\]: c18
HitaruNoGo [16k\]: ahh
]
;W[bb]CR[bb]C[lazy [?\]: throwin ;0
]
;B[ba]CR[ba]C[wrong [1k?\]: b19
kalim [14k\]: no ko
])
(;W[db]CR[db]
;B[eb]CR[eb]
;W[ea]CR[ea]C[Scribe [?\]: Black lives after Wc19, e19
Scribe [?\]: if black d18
]))
(;W[eb]CR[eb]C[Ceras [4k\]: hehe
Bodo212 [14k\]: tell us
]
;B[cb]CR[cb]C[MysticoN [24k\]: if black respond
MysticoN [24k\]: H19
iveseen [13k\]: e19?
wrong [1k?\]: next time don't be late to the class people
MysticoN [24k\]: ^^
agui [7k\]: d18
]
(;W[ha]CR[ha]
;B[bc]CR[bc]C[Santa [7k\]: it's the same
HitaruNoGo [16k\]: no that bad
HitaruNoGo [16k\]: white to kill
MysticoN [24k\]: okay
MysticoN [24k\]: I remember
MysticoN [24k\]: :D
agui [7k\]: d18
MysticoN [24k\]: hehe
])
(;W[bb]CR[bb]C[abbadan [11k?\]: d 19
]
;B[ba]CR[ba]
;W[db]CR[db]
;B[da]CR[da]C[MysticoN [24k\]: waht if white plays  h19 then F18 =? .... then black H18 dies ?
HitaruNoGo [16k\]: prevent ko
HitaruNoGo [16k\]: i c
MysticoN [24k\]: after E18 of course
Sero [-\]: thats starting to hurt :)
laole [2d\]: so the result is a ko?
Aristocles [12k?\]: ko
wrong [1k?\]: please, don't as Q's before learn to read
]
;W[ac]CR[ac]C[HitaruNoGo [16k\]: b17gone
MysticoN [24k\]: ahah :D
zee [8k\]: this way is a ko
HitaruNoGo [16k\]: so no double ko
Santa [7k\]: double ko !
laole [2d\]: ic
HitaruNoGo [16k\]: ok got it
]
;B[ha]CR[ha]
;W[aa]CR[aa]C[Santa [7k\]: christmas comes early for white
lazy [?\]: that's almost evil :)
MysticoN [24k\]: hahaha
MysticoN [24k\]: U have a evil laughter .FD
Ceras [4k\]: wow :)
Gruffalo [-\]: great problem !
wrong [1k?\]: B finds out how's to be helpless
Chocobovn [7k\]: great
])))))