(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[0.00]
PW[guojuan]PB[guojuan]WR[5p]BR[5p]DT[2005-01-16]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[wrong [1d?\]: Ni hao everyone
MysticoN [24k\]: woho
krneki [10k\]: hi
Stav [7k\]: ni hao
teroon [19k?\]: hi
MysticoN [24k\]: hi
Scribe [?\]: Nihao Guojuan Laoshi
jantiff [7k\]: hi master
Ildefonse [10k\]: hii
nothingman [?\]: hello
Hikaru33 [24k?\]: hi
gargantua [28k?\]: hello
zeijinOne [16k\]: hi
Xanthus [13k\]: hi
Ildefonse [10k\]: will this be with audio?
MysticoN [24k\]: zejinone :D
balance [3k\]: how are you?
MysticoN [24k\]: HEY
zeijinOne [16k\]: ;(
hansb [2k?\]: hi
olczyk [16k\]: hear you
zeijinOne [16k\]: :)
krneki [10k\]: audio
jas [15k?\]: hi
Scribe [?\]: Hello we can hear you
Ildefonse [10k\]: yes
MysticoN [24k\]: yes
balance [3k\]: yep
krneki [10k\]: yes
nothingman [?\]: yep
Xanthus [13k\]: yes
Out [14k?\]: yes
jas [15k?\]: yes
jcbrookly1 [?\]: yes
BMarley [5k\]: yes
BrunnenG [17k\]: sound is grate
TonyTiger [5k\]: no, we don't hear you
kjp [6k\]: godaften
Scribe [?\]: how that your workshop went well last week
wrong [1d?\]: oh, I forgot to start mp3 recorder :((((
balance [3k\]: good idea
balance [3k\]: i wouldnt forget it
balance [3k\]: :)
MysticoN [24k\]: yup
Scribe [?\]: the sound is good
krneki [10k\]: yes
jas [15k?\]: yep
gogy [9k\]: ok
Ildefonse [10k\]: its ok
balance [3k\]: bright
krneki [10k\]: just fine
DrGoPlayer [4k\]: fine
Scribe [?\]: no problem, we are very glad to have each of you teaching us
wrong [1d?\]: we're happy to have ny pros here, if jujo comes the better for the lesson
Scribe [?\]: with whatever schedule
wrong [1d?\]: any*
Sero [-\]: busy life :)
Ildefonse [10k\]: koud in nederland he;)
idunnoyou3 [9k\]: ?.? no more sound?
playm8 [7k?\]: ja, maar centrale verwarming maakt veel goed ^^
]WS[0]
;B[dp]C[wrong [1d?\]: restart client
]
;W[fq]C[Scribe [?\]: Joseki problem received in the mail from a student
Ildefonse [10k\]: yes
playm8 [7k?\]: yes
wrong [1d?\]: yes
kjp [6k\]: yes
Xris [7k\]:  yes
BMarley [5k\]: yes
]
;B[cn]C[Bodo212 [14k\]: yes
]
;W[cq]C[krneki [10k\]: yes
wrong [1d?\]: who'd think of ladders here
Scribe [?\]: white has gain on both the inside (life) and influence on the outside facing the bottom toward the left
nutcase [1k\]: this is more or less korea style
Ildefonse [10k\]: k
krneki [10k\]: ok
]
;B[dq]C[nothingman [?\]: yeah
Scribe [?\]: yes we hear you
Erwann [23k\]: yes
Uvas [-\]: i hear
agui [7k\]: ok
]
;W[cp]C[jas [15k?\]: yes
agui [7k\]: yes
zeijinOne [16k\]: yes
Bodo212 [14k\]: I hear
GokhanEdge [?\]: yes
]
;B[co]
;W[dr]
;B[er]
;W[cr]
;B[eq]
;W[fr]
;B[es]
;W[fp]
(;B[eo]C[nutcase [1k\]: how abt b play D5?
]
;W[bp]C[Scribe [?\]: is it possible for black not to defend here
Scribe [?\]: white lives in corner
playm8 [7k?\]: ok
Ildefonse [10k\]: ok
allybaba [12k?\]: my question is how to put sacrifie stone
Bodo212 [14k\]: ok
BMarley [5k\]: ok
])
(;B[bp]CR[bp]
;W[bq]CR[bq]
;B[bo]CR[bo]C[balance [3k\]: yep
Scribe [?\]: White dead without any aji
]
(;W[do]CR[do]C[Scribe [?\]: White is dead in the corner, but can Black survive on the outside
Ildefonse [10k\]: laddeR?
wrong [1d?\]: depends on the ladder
Xris [7k\]: use it to get outside influence?
kjp [6k\]: ladder
Ildefonse [10k\]: with no black stone, also ladder
]
;AB[jj][eo]C[kjp [6k\]: good for B
Scribe [?\]: Depends upon the ladder that begins with ed5
Scribe [?\]: e5
])
(;W[bs]CR[bs]C[Scribe [?\]: What is black plays to kill rather than defend
]
;B[ar]CR[ar]
;W[aq]CR[aq]
;B[ds]CR[ds])
(;AW[jj]
;W[do]CR[do]TR[dp][dq][eq][er][es]C[Scribe [?\]: Inside white has 4 liberties
]
;B[eo]CR[eo]C[Ildefonse [10k\]: atarie at e5 and connect?
]
;W[dn]CR[dn]C[Scribe [?\]: outside black has 3 liberties
]
;B[ep]CR[ep]C[Scribe [?\]: black must escape, can not fight locally
glint [12k?\]: yes
zeijinOne [16k\]: yes
Ildefonse [10k\]: yes
kjp [6k\]: yes
playm8 [7k?\]: agreed
MysticoN [24k\]: yes
Bodo212 [14k\]: ok
wrong [1d?\]: yes
krneki [10k\]: ok
revo [16k\]: could play E6 before
lobster [7k\]: yes
jas [15k?\]: yes
GokhanEdge [?\]: yes
Jubjub [17k\]: yea
BMarley [5k\]: ok
olczyk [16k\]: yes
agui [7k\]: yes
Liquid [16k\]: yes 
Bardock [5k\]: yes
EroSennin [9k\]: yes agree
balance [3k\]: agree
Mario111 [16k\]: :)
Xris [7k\]: Yes
Liquid [16k\]: ^^
alibaba [8k\]: yes
apitoo [4k\]: sure
kjp [6k\]: playing atari is bad
]
(;W[dm]CR[dm]
(;B[fo]CR[fo]
;W[cm]CR[cm]
;B[bm]CR[bm]
;W[bl]CR[bl]TR[bn][ao][ap]C[playm8 [7k?\]: agreed
glint [12k?\]: agree
Bardock [5k\]: yes
zeijinOne [16k\]: yes
krneki [10k\]: yes
Bodo212 [14k\]: yes
Ildefonse [10k\]: ye
GokhanEdge [?\]: yeah
jas [15k?\]: yep
olczyk [16k\]: Yes
balance [3k\]: ys
BMarley [5k\]: ok
agui [7k\]: yes
Jubjub [17k\]: yea
revo [16k\]: yes
]
(;B[ds]CR[ds]C[tibra [10k?\]: yes
Hikaru33 [24k?\]: yes
zorbas [18k?\]: yep
Maxad19 [12k?\]: ok
EroSennin [9k\]: yes agree
]
;W[ap]CR[ap])
(;B[an]CR[an]
;W[ap]CR[ap]))
(;B[ds]CR[ds]
;W[fn]CR[fn]C[Scribe [?\]: Very hard for black to answer when white just extends from the d6 stone
balance [3k\]: influence
nutcase [1k\]: lol
nutcase [1k\]: happy to die ;)
nothingman [?\]: side+center for W
wrong [1d?\]: B lives - in prison :)
afternoon [3k\]: this white is gosu.
nutcase [1k\]: nice sacrifice 
Scribe [?\]: White is happy to die here and enclose Black completely with solid outside
]
;B[cs]CR[cs]
;W[fo]CR[fo]
;B[br]CR[br]C[playm8 [7k?\]: this is a great example that it's not what you do, but how you do it ^^
]))
(;W[cm]CR[cm]))))