(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[5.50]
PW[Yi Ch'ang-ho]PB[Cho Hun-hyeon]WR[7d]BR[9d]DT[1995-01-27]EV[6th Kiseong Final]RO[Game 4]PC[Hanguk Kiweon]US[GoGoD95]C[tarragone [15k\]: yes
Ildefonse [10k\]: yes
EnliBikal [11k\]: yeah
playm8 [7k?\]: yes
BMarley [5k\]: yes
krneki [10k\]: yes
apitoo [4k\]: y
balance [3k\]: yeah
GokhanEdge [?\]: yeah
Meccano [15k\]: Yes
Bodo212 [14k\]: yes
Liquid [16k\]: yes
jeroen17 [12k\]: yes
Mario111 [16k\]: sure
tibra [10k?\]: yes
richieb [22k\]: yes
revo [16k\]: fine
zorbas [18k?\]: yes
betatron [15k\]: yes
alibaba [8k\]: yes
agui [7k\]: yes
Sero [-\]: hehe
]
;B[qd]
;W[dp]C[Sero [-\]: lee changho
kole [4k\]: Lee ChangHo
]
;B[pp]
;W[dd]
;B[oc]C[EroSennin [9k\]: lol
]
;W[qj]
;B[qh]
;W[qm]
;B[mq]C[idunnoyou3 [9k\]: Lee chang ho? cool
]
;W[rp]C[BMarley [5k\]: =)
EroSennin [9k\]: master and siciple game?
]
;B[cj]C[Scribe [?\]: Everyone knows these two ;)
]
;W[gc]
;B[cg]
;W[ce]C[EroSennin [9k\]: i tot lee is cho student?
]
;B[fq]
;W[cn]
;B[cq]SQ[cj]C[idunnoyou3 [9k\]: shhh
Scribe [?\]: very normal opening
EroSennin [9k\]: kk
jas [15k?\]: right
apitoo [4k\]: y
balance [3k\]: k
nutcase [1k\]: b got the ladder for sure
Scribe [?\]: with black c3 we return to the question mailed in regarding the invasion
Ildefonse [10k\]: yes good for black
Scribe [?\]: ladder is good for black
Scribe [?\]: white must defend when ladder is favors black
kjp [6k\]: is this better?
]
(;W[dq]C[balance [3k\]: white hade to pincer?
]
(;B[cp]C[zee [8k\]: san san here is good for B
Bodo212 [14k\]: ok
Scribe [?\]: san san (3x3) very severe when the ladder favors black
balance [3k\]: had*
]
(;W[co]
;B[dr]
;W[er]
;B[cr]
;W[eq]
;B[fr]
;W[es]C[Bodo212 [14k\]: I have sound
]
;B[fp]C[Mario111 [16k\]: me too
]
(;W[eo]
;B[bp]
;W[gn]
;B[jp]C[Scribe [?\]: white defended
balance [3k\]: black happy
Scribe [?\]: black lives in corner
]
;W[cl]
;B[eg]
;W[jc]
;B[qq]
;W[mc]
;B[rn]
;W[qn]
;B[ro]
;W[qo]
;B[qp]
;W[rm]
;B[rq]
;W[oj]
;B[rj]
;W[rk]
;B[qi]
;W[pj]
;B[oh]
;W[lo]
;B[kp]
;W[io]
;B[ip]
;W[dh]
;B[dg]
;W[bi]
;B[ec]
;W[dc]
;B[fe]
;W[ff]
;B[be]
;W[ee]
;B[bd]
;W[bf]
;B[bg]
;W[cf]
;B[af]
;W[ci]
;B[ef]
;W[eb]
;B[gg]
;W[gf]
;B[hf]
;W[ge]
;B[fg]
;W[hg]
;B[hi]
;W[hh]
;B[gi]
;W[jh]
;B[ld]
;W[pc]
;B[pd]
;W[ob]
;B[pb]
;W[nc]
;B[od]
;W[me]
;B[lg]
;W[bb]
;B[ei]
;W[bj]
;B[jj]
;W[le]
;B[kf]
;W[lh]
;B[ke]
;W[kd]
;B[mh]
;W[li]
;B[mi]
;W[lj]
;B[mj]
;W[lk]
;B[mk]
;W[kl]
;B[ll]
;W[je]
;B[jf]
;W[lf]
;B[kg]
;W[mg]
;B[ng]
;W[mf]
;B[ne]
;W[md]
;B[kk]
;W[kh]
;B[jl]
;W[ri]
;B[rh]
;W[sj]
;B[km]
;W[pa]
;B[qc]
;W[bo]
;B[ar]
;W[nn]
;B[fl]
;W[sh]
;B[sg]
;W[si]
;B[rg]
;W[np]
;B[nl]
;W[om]
;B[nq]
;W[fs]
;B[hr]
;W[nb]
;B[dm]
;W[dl]
;B[em]
;W[fn]
;B[dj]
;W[cm]
;B[cb]
;W[cc]
;B[bc]
;W[db])
(;W[bp]CR[bp]C[Scribe [?\]: black gets influence to the bottom left
Ildefonse [10k\]: yes
]
(;B[do]CR[do]C[Scribe [?\]: white can NOT play this weay
MysticoN [24k\]: black need 3
MysticoN [24k\]: white need 4
kjp [6k\]: miss 1 move
MysticoN [24k\]: to kill
kjp [6k\]: B b3
balance [3k\]: disaster
Aristocles [12k?\]: play it out
nutcase [1k\]: oops no sound now
tarragone [15k\]: there is
wrong [1d?\]: restart client
nothingman [?\]: sound ok
kjp [6k\]: sound ok
Ildefonse [10k\]: i hear
apitoo [4k\]: there is
krneki [10k\]: sound is ok
])
(;B[bq]CR[bq]C[nutcase [1k\]: ok
]
;W[bo]CR[bo]
;B[do]CR[do]C[Ildefonse [10k\]: after b F5
]
;W[eo]CR[eo]C[Ildefonse [10k\]: both have 4 liberties
]
;B[dn]CR[dn]
;W[ep]CR[ep]TR[cj]C[Aristocles [12k?\]: good
]
;B[cm]CR[cm]C[revo [16k\]: what about atari from b7
Ildefonse [10k\]: but
]
(;W[dm]CR[dm]C[balance [3k\]: yeah=?
nutcase [1k\]: certainly b beter...
]
;B[en]CR[en]C[Scribe [?\]: now the black c10 stone makes the situation even better for Black
zorbas [18k?\]: k
]
;W[cl]CR[cl]C[balance [3k\]: can you show?
agui [7k\]: ok nice !
jas [15k?\]: ok
]
;B[bm]CR[bm]C[Aristocles [12k?\]: i see
]
;W[bl]CR[bl]
;B[fo]CR[fo]C[Ildefonse [10k\]: yes
balance [3k\]: more strengh eh?
])
(;W[bm]CR[bm]
;B[dm]CR[dm]
;W[bl]CR[bl]
;B[fn]CR[fn]C[Scribe [?\]: due to c10 black can sacrifice two stones to get even stronger facing the bottom left
nutcase [1k\]: nice influence for b
]))))
(;W[dr]CR[dr]C[agui [7k\]: yes
glint [12k?\]: yes, W loose senye
Scribe [?\]: white hane at c2, in place of nobi d2, leads to a bad result for white
wrong [1d?\]: what's usual to do with F3 if pincered
kole [4k\]: phone call
Liquid [16k\]: ^^
Ildefonse [10k\]: but in teh situation a few moves ago, when black locked in white at F5 -- didint both black and white have 4 liberties, and it was whites turn?
Ildefonse [10k\]: ie white could kill corner black
Ildefonse [10k\]: yes see above
goglu [-\]: clear
Bodo212 [14k\]: clear
balance [3k\]: cristal clear
EroSennin [9k\]: clear
idunnoyou3 [9k\]: clear clear
zeijinOne [16k\]: clear
playm8 [7k?\]: so D2 was best move?
pel [14k?\]: great example :)
BMarley [5k\]: =)
Maxad19 [12k?\]: clear
wrong [1d?\]: if W H3 pincer after the var You gave, what's usual to do with F3
nutcase [1k\]: clear n cool :)
Wibren [12k?\]: can i ask something completely diffrent?
tiger1 [8k\]: can black save f3 with f5 after white h3?
Ildefonse [10k\]: okay
Ildefonse [10k\]: yes
playm8 [7k?\]: yes
wrong [1d?\]: yes
agui [7k\]: yes
idunnoyou3 [9k\]: yes\]
BMarley [5k\]: ok
tibra [10k?\]: yes
TonyTiger [5k\]: yes
krneki [10k\]: yes
wrong [1d?\]: thank You
balance [3k\]: oc
copperhead [9k\]: yes
Xris [7k\]: okay
Bodo212 [14k\]: yes
EroSennin [9k\]: yesyes
agui [7k\]: thanks
MysticoN [24k\]: do u do it for free ???¨
kazenokaze [?\]: only sgf
Scribe [?\]: when sending questions, place the question inside the sgf file at the move that it pertains to
MysticoN [24k\]: okay
Stav [7k\]: mysticon: the ing foundation is sponsoring
BMarley [5k\]: =)
glint [12k?\]: put questions as move comments in the SGF file
TonyTiger [5k\]: yippii
Ildefonse [10k\]: ok
agui [7k\]: ok
Bodo212 [14k\]: thx very much
glint [12k?\]: bye
playm8 [7k?\]: cu l8er
EroSennin [9k\]: ok
tibra [10k?\]: thank
TonyTiger [5k\]: later guo
krneki [10k\]: bye
Stav [7k\]: later!
]
;B[co]CR[co]
;W[do]CR[do]C[wrong [1d?\]: W's wall useless
]
;B[bn]CR[bn]
(;W[bm]CR[bm]
;B[cm]CR[cm]
;W[dn]CR[dn]
;B[bl]CR[bl]
;W[hq]CR[hq]C[Scribe [?\]: playable for white
balance [3k\]: oki
])
(;W[cm]CR[cm]TR[cg][cj]C[zee [8k\]: Hane at C2 is not good for W
]
;B[bm]CR[bm]
;W[cl]CR[cl]
;B[bl]CR[bl]
;W[hq]CR[hq]))
(;W[cr]CR[cr]
;B[br]CR[br]
;W[dr]CR[dr]
;B[bn]CR[bn]
;W[bm]CR[bm]
;B[bo]CR[bo]
;W[cm]CR[cm]C[zee [8k\]: nobi at D2 is a good choice for W
]
;B[bs]CR[bs]
;W[do]CR[do]
;B[iq]CR[iq]C[Xris [7k\]: years
]))
(;B[dr]CR[dr]
;W[er]CR[er]
;B[cr]CR[cr]
;W[eq]CR[eq]
;B[bo]CR[bo]
(;W[fp]CR[fp])
(;W[co]CR[co]C[Scribe [?\]: black lives
]
;B[bn]CR[bn]
;W[fp]CR[fp]C[Scribe [?\]: white is okay
])))
(;W[cp]CR[cp]C[Bodo212 [14k\]: thx
]
;B[dq]CR[dq]C[agui [7k\]: ok
]
;W[ep]CR[ep]C[kazenokaze [?\]: ok
]
;B[eq]CR[eq]))