(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]
PW[guojuan]PB[guojuan]WR[5p]BR[5p]DT[2005-01-23]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]
(;AW[oc][pc][qd][pf][dl][bm][dm][cn][qn][bo][bp][cp][fq][pq]AB[dc][nc][jd][nd][od][de][dj][qj][em][dn][en][co][do][dp][cq]C[rhubarb [8k\]: i like white
kufr [23k?\]: hehe
idunnoyou3 [9k\]: 8 handicap!?
idunnoyou3 [9k\]: 14 ???
weezou [11k\]: black is better
Liquid [16k\]: ?
egemen [11k\]: one color go
kjp [6k\]: reverse handicap
wrong [1d?\]: we should by touch-screen sensor for guojuan^^
nutcase [1k\]: hehe, R12
kjp [6k\]: r12
Scatee [9k\]: P10 
Stav [7k\]: what is the "such a move"?
Ildefonse [10k\]: R12
zee [8k\]: where should W play?
MysticoN [24k\]: oops
]
(;B[]
(;W[qh]CR[qh]TR[pc][od][qd][pf][qj]C[Scribe [?\]: Black r10 threatens upper right white stones
Scribe [?\]: White must defend at r12
Ives08 [9k\]: ic
])
(;W[ql]CR[ql]
;B[qe]CR[qe]C[Xris [7k\]: openskirt
]
;W[pe]CR[pe]
;B[pd]CR[pd]
;W[qc]CR[qc]
;B[qf]CR[qf]C[Scribe [?\]: The black  p16 stone heavily threatens the upper white group
]))
(;AE[qj]LB[ng:D][qj:C][el:A][jq:B]C[Stav [7k\]: back in the original shape, what happens if black plays Q16 and white does not defend?
zee [8k\]: B to play
starline [6k\]: d
Lamrin [11k\]: a
glint [12k?\]: B
rohff2813 [8k\]: D
nutcase [1k\]: B
mmm1 [?\]: A
wrong [1d?\]: A is urgent I think
playm8 [7k?\]: B
MysticoN [24k\]: B
jas [15k?\]: A
FLgator [4k\]: B
kalim [14k\]: b
au2 [2k\]: B
z41n3 [20k\]: B
copperhead [9k\]: b
swilks [6k\]: b
kolben [1k?\]: A
DeSade [-\]: B
Taiteki [10k?\]: B
Ives08 [9k\]: B
pel [14k?\]: A
weezou [11k\]: C sente
rohff2813 [8k\]: B 
olczyk [16k\]: I want to play D but A
apitoo [4k\]: A
rhubarb [8k\]: b
Pinguinon [4k\]: D
starline [6k\]: d is nice
agui [7k\]: D
zeijinOne [16k\]: C?
idunnoyou3 [9k\]: E8 == A?
Xanthus [13k\]: D
goglu [-\]: D
Ambivlnce [14k\]: b
Stav [7k\]: b
DrGoPlayer [4k\]: b
dogbert [4d?\]: takemiya would play A:)
tarragone [15k\]: b
kalim [14k\]: white stone cuts base out of black group
nutcase [1k\]: A is thick but too slow
glint [12k?\]: yes
]
(;B[jq]CR[jq]
;W[el]CR[el])
(;B[el]CR[el]C[Ildefonse [10k\]: yes
playm8 [7k?\]: yes
Bodo212 [14k\]: yes
wrong [1d?\]: I was right, it's A ^_^
zviratko [12k\]: wrong is right ^_^
wrong [1d?\]: the best move is usually the worst from the kyu point of move *_*
]
(;W[jp]CR[jp]C[nutcase [1k\]: w K4
]
;B[ng]CR[ng]C[kalim [14k\]: ahhh
nutcase [1k\]: i c
krneki [10k\]: yes
Scribe [?\]: white e8 is very damaging to the black moyo
glint [12k?\]: congratulations wrong
nutcase [1k\]: ultra big moyo
Bodo212 [14k\]: I see
zee [8k\]: now B is big and solid
Stav [7k\]: hmm, dogbert and takemiya were right
])
(;W[nf]CR[nf]C[playm8 [7k?\]: wrong: you have the wrong name, because you're right most of the time
]
;B[jp]CR[jp]C[zee [8k\]: better ataack for B this way
]))
(;B[jp]CR[jp]
;W[el]CR[el]C[wrong [1d?\]: view, not move*
zee [8k\]: E8 gives a comfortable feeling to B
Scribe [?\]: white is moving from a strong group can not be attacked
idunnoyou3 [9k\]: no.....
MysticoN [24k\]: yes
glint [12k?\]: yes
playm8 [7k?\]: feel the force
Liquid [16k\]: no
nutcase [1k\]: lol
krneki [10k\]: yes
starline [6k\]: synergy
idunnoyou3 [9k\]: i dun.....
mandy [16k?\]: yes
kalim [14k\]: so would that be a trade?
idunnoyou3 [9k\]: :(
MysticoN [24k\]: Black group treatened
kjp [6k\]: let the force be with you
wrong [1d?\]: that is the book 'm searching for, how to develope a good feeling
Scribe [?\]: play this move based upon feel rather than reading
wrong [1d?\]: for the right move
dogbert [4d?\]: long live takemiya
])))
(;B[dp]CR[dp]
;W[cn]CR[cn]
;B[dj]CR[dj]
;W[fq]CR[fq]
;B[dn]CR[dn]
;W[dm]CR[dm]
;B[en]CR[en]
;W[cp]CR[cp]
;B[co]CR[co]
;W[bo]CR[bo]
;B[do]CR[do]
;W[bm]CR[bm]C[Scribe [?\]: joseki that lead up the lower left position
]
;B[cq]CR[cq]
;W[bp]CR[bp]
;B[em]CR[em]
;W[dl]CR[dl]TR[dj]
(;B[jp]CR[jp]
;W[el]CR[el]TR[dj]C[MysticoN [24k\]: Isnt it easy for white to take left corner ?
Scribe [?\]: when black has d10 important for black to play at e8 and connect to d10
MysticoN [24k\]: if white plays D3 ?
])
(;B[jq]CR[jq])
(;B[el]CR[el]C[Scribe [?\]: otherwise black can pincer white f3 with either k4 or k3
])))