(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]
PW[guojuan]PB[guojuan]WR[5p]BR[5p]DT[2005-01-23]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[MysticoN [24k\]: hello :D
Harriman [3k\]: hello Juan
manakem10 [-\]: hello
glint [12k?\]: hi 
copperhead [9k\]: hello
krneki [10k\]: hello
wrong [1d?\]: Ni hao
Xanthus [13k\]: hi!
Lamrin [11k\]: hello
critti [26k\]: hi!!
balance [3k\]: hi
Lamrin [11k\]: yeas
playm8 [7k?\]: rotfl
MontFuji [13k\]: hello
glint [12k?\]: nooo
Taiteki [10k?\]: hi!
apitoo [4k\]: hello
glint [12k?\]: :P
Bodo212 [14k\]: noo
idunnoyou3 [9k\]: no!
Aristocles [13k?\]: no
MysticoN [24k\]: HOMWWORK
idunnoyou3 [9k\]: NO!
wrong [1d?\]: homework homework homework homework homework homework
Lamrin [11k\]: yes
manakem10 [-\]: no, all are lazy
Liquid [16k\]: ;)
MysticoN [24k\]: Homework
kjp [6k\]: hw hw hw hw hw hw hw
Aristocles [13k?\]: ok
Liquid [16k\]: yeahXD
wrong [1d?\]: something REALLY HARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Grimley [8k\]: wrong

]
;AW[oc][dd][od][me][mg][qj][po][qp][qq]AB[pc][ld][qd][le][pf][cp][pq][or][qr]LB[hd:A][qh:B][cj:C][np:E][fq:D]TR[pc][qd][pf][mg][qj]C[playm8 [7k?\]: wrong: you'
wrong [1d?\]: something we NEED the whole WEEK to solve
Akamaru [6k\]: 9p sabaki problem wrong?
Akamaru [6k\]: ;)
playgo [4k\]: how about a famous LD problem
Bodo212 [14k\]: ok fine
playm8 [7k?\]: like homework? :)
wrong [1d?\]: tsume go *_*
Aristocles [13k?\]: black looks good
Liquid [16k\]: +_+ i like go problems 
Mario111 [16k\]: :D
wrong [1d?\]: B's move
Scribe [?\]: Homework problem
Scribe [?\]: Black to move
Stav [7k\]: options, yay
Ildefonse [10k\]: A
Grimley [8k\]: E
hansb [2k?\]: A
kufr [23k?\]: A
krneki [10k\]: a
rhubarb [8k\]: a
FLgator [4k\]: A
swilks [6k\]: b
idunnoyou3 [9k\]: E
Centurion [8k\]: a
Liquid [16k\]: (this is homework)
Ives08 [9k\]: A
mmm1 [?\]: b
Ildefonse [10k\]: A to strengthen group
au2 [2k\]: A
Pinguinon [4k\]: A
Bodo212 [14k\]: E
playm8 [7k?\]: A
Harriman [3k\]: A
idunnoyou3 [9k\]: O4  == E
ratata [4k\]: A
Scribe [?\]: urgent before big
zee [8k\]: A
olczyk [16k\]: A urgent
Choubam [18k\]: E
idunnoyou3 [9k\]: E
Xanthus [13k\]: A
Zanthia [?\]: A
glint [12k?\]: E
Stav [7k\]: B
idunnoyou3 [9k\]: E
balance [3k\]: a
Mario111 [16k\]: E
Jubjub [17k\]: A
nutcase [1k\]: A or D
lobster [7k\]: DDDD
DrGoPlayer [4k\]: A
goglu [-\]: D
balance [3k\]: thnx
Stav [7k\]: B i say!
nutcase [1k\]: R15...
nutcase [1k\]: wow, B is nice call
Stav [7k\]: ^ ^
Bodo212 [14k\]: ha
DrGoPlayer [4k\]: w marked stones make b shape weak
Scribe [?\]: black shape in upper right when white stones are far, when near balck is not safe

]
;B[]TR[mg][qj]C[nutcase [1k\]: lol
nutcase [1k\]: R12 impt

]
(;W[qe]CR[qe]
;B[pe]CR[pe]
;W[pd]CR[pd]C[zee [8k\]: B's shape on top right not safe

]
;B[qc]CR[qc]C[Stav [7k\]: badabum

]
;W[qf]CR[qf]
;B[qg]CR[qg]
;W[rg]CR[rg]TR[mg][qj]C[Scribe [?\]: white has escaped

]
;B[qh]CR[qh]
;W[rh]CR[rh]C[wrong [1d?\]: this one is simple for homework

]
;B[rd]CR[rd]C[critti [26k\]: b is dead

]
;W[re]CR[re]C[Taiteki [10k?\]: yep

]
;B[se]CR[se]
;W[rf]CR[rf]C[nutcase [1k\]: almost
agui [7k\]: is cut
playm8 [7k?\]: 2 weak groups
Ives08 [9k\]: have to save both
wrong [1d?\]: to live in sente :)
idunnoyou3 [9k\]: R10 
zee [8k\]: separated into 3 grps
nutcase [1k\]: corner still need one hand
Ildefonse [10k\]: sealed in corner, other group is captured
Ildefonse [10k\]: (almost)
apitoo [4k\]: two problems... center and right
agui [7k\]: ok

]
(;B[ob]CR[ob]
;W[nb]CR[nb]
;B[pa]CR[pa]
(;W[oh]CR[oh]TR[oc][od][pd][pe][pf]SQ[qg][rg][qh][rh][qj]C[nutcase [1k\]: yes
Stav [7k\]: uh-oh ^ ^
nutcase [1k\]: or M14
nutcase [1k\]: b heavy to run anyway
glint [12k?\]: tri
Ildefonse [10k\]: triangles
playgo [4k\]: Q15 
krneki [10k\]: triangle marked
nutcase [1k\]: triangle
Harriman [3k\]: q line
olczyk [16k\]: triangle
Xris [7k\]: triangle
Jubjub [17k\]: Triangles
kjp [6k\]: triangular stone
nutcase [1k\]: key stone
Wibren [12k?\]: q15
Scribe [?\]: which are the attacking stones
Scribe [?\]: triangle are attacking/cutting stones
Scribe [?\]: black q14 and q15

]
;B[pi]CR[pi]
;W[pg]CR[pg]C[playm8 [7k?\]: yes
weezou [11k\]: yes*
Ildefonse [10k\]: yes
Jubjub [17k\]: yes
krneki [10k\]: yes
copperhead [9k\]: yes
rohff2813 [8k\]: res
nutcase [1k\]: yes
Taiteki [10k?\]: yes
jas [15k?\]: yes
tibra [10k?\]: yes
critti [26k\]: yes
agui [7k\]: yes very clear
Zanthia [?\]: yes
nutcase [1k\]: kill cutting stones of cos :)
Bodo212 [14k\]: very usefull

])
(;W[pg]CR[pg]
;B[og]CR[og]
;W[ph]CR[ph]
;B[oh]CR[oh]
;W[qi]CR[qi]
;B[of]CR[of]TR[nb][oc][od][pd][me]C[Scribe [?\]: white killed the wrong stones
glint [12k?\]: W still cup in two
glint [12k?\]: cut
Scribe [?\]: white is still cut

]))
(;B[oh]CR[oh]C[kufr [23k?\]: yes

Bodo212 [14k\]: sure
]
;W[pb]CR[pb]C[glint [12k?\]: yes
krneki [10k\]: ok

]
;B[qb]CR[qb]
;W[ob]CR[ob]TR[qb][qc][qd][rd]C[nutcase [1k\]: dead
wrong [1d?\]: no
Ildefonse [10k\]: bulky 5
Stav [7k\]: no way
Wibren [12k?\]: s18
cropette [3k\]: dead
Bodo212 [14k\]: s 18?
zee [8k\]: dead
Mario111 [16k\]: T18
Liquid [16k\]: T18
rhubarb [8k\]: dead
olczyk [16k\]: S18
weezou [11k\]: need S18
Scribe [?\]: black outside escapes but the corner is in trouble
DrGoPlayer [4k\]: seki?
Harriman [3k\]: dead
FLgator [4k\]: T18
nutcase [1k\]: simple dead shape
z41n3 [20k\]: yes with s18
Akamaru [6k\]: it is dead
starline [6k\]: t18
Centurion [8k\]: dead
critti [26k\]: s18
Taiteki [10k?\]: R19
idunnoyou3 [9k\]: must die....
rohff2813 [8k\]: dead
Bodo212 [14k\]: yes
glint [12k?\]: yes, homework
wrong [1d?\]: homework ^_^
Liquid [16k\]: ok
balance [3k\]: oki
Liquid [16k\]: ^^
Ives08 [9k\]: dead
nutcase [1k\]: L shape
Scribe [?\]: Homework top right Black to play
nutcase [1k\]: L group rather
idunnoyou3 [9k\]: No
Scribe [?\]: yes
jeroen17 [12k\]: yes

MysticoN [24k\]: hello
MysticoN [24k\]: :D
Jakobicek [17k\]: hi
rakdver [14k\]: hello
Bodo212 [14k\]: hallo - good afternoon
monchacha [10k\]: juo
Koreangrl8 [18k\]: HI
Laylasan [18k\]: hi
nrgdw [5k\]: me very happy to hear YOU :-)))
Bodo212 [14k\]: ok
hansb [2k?\]: is dead
monchacha [10k\]: s18
swordsplay [8k\]: dead
Bodo212 [14k\]: b s18?
MysticoN [24k\]: S18
handtalk [8k\]: dead even with hane
hansb [2k?\]: no chance
Celila [-\]: ;-)
mingjiu [7p\]: b
]
(;B[rb]CR[rb]
;W[qa]CR[qa]
;B[ra]CR[ra]
;W[sc]CR[sc]C[Bodo212 [14k\]: ok
]
(;B[sb]CR[sb]
;W[sd]CR[sd]
;B[rc]CR[rc]
;W[sd]CR[sd])
(;B[sd]CR[sd]C[Koreangrl8 [18k\]: T18?
]
;W[sb]CR[sb]))
(;AE[se]AB[re]TR[qb][qc][qd][rd][re]C[IdnOuNaGe [8k?\]: balk is dead ?
aditsu [12k\]: L+1 group
Brutha [11k?\]: t18
Grimley [9k\]: s18
Scribe [?\]: Good to memorize certain basic shapes such as the marked stones (r16, 17, 18 and s16)  is a dead shape
revo [16k\]: t18
IdnOuNaGe [8k?\]: ok
Bodo212 [14k\]: ok
rzhao [5k\]: many ways to live
MysticoN [24k\]: okay
]
(;B[rb]CR[rb]
;W[sc]CR[sc]C[Koreangrl8 [18k\]: T18
]
;B[sb]CR[sb]C[Grimley [9k\]: t18 now
Celila [-\]: t18
]
;W[se]CR[se]
;B[sd]CR[sd]TR[sa][sc])
(;B[aa]CR[aa]
;W[se]CR[se]TR[qb][qc][qd][rd]C[Scribe [?\]: add s15 to the previous stones and black can live, white can kill
])
(;AE[pc]AB[pb]TR[pb][re]C[IdnOuNaGe [8k?\]: ok
Brutha [11k?\]: does he need the liberaty at q17?
Grimley [9k\]: no
Santa [6k\]: ok
IdnOuNaGe [8k?\]: ok
Santa [6k\]: clear
handtalk [8k\]: yes
okhna [15k\]: clear
Bodo212 [14k\]: clear
Jakobicek [17k\]: yup
IdnOuNaGe [8k?\]: k
Mokuseki [10k\]: yes, clear
Laylasan [18k\]: clear
glint [12k?\]: with L group, where is it best for B to play too make alive ?
Scribe [?\]: L group (no legs) can not live
Bodo212 [14k\]: thx
revo [16k\]: yes
Grimley [9k\]: glint: you have to play at s18 if s15 is there or at t18 if q18 is there
guojuan [5p\]: we need two legs
Wook [-\]: glint tenuki :)
popie [?\]: yes
guojuan [5p\]: one leg needs a move to live
glint [12k?\]: sorry L+1
Grimley [9k\]: see my answer:)
Koreangrl8 [18k\]: Thank you.
okhna [15k\]: ok
guojuan [5p\]: 0 legs is dead
zviratko [12k\]: ok
IdnOuNaGe [8k?\]: ok
taudrilly [18k\]: ok
Grimley [9k\]: ok
]
;B[aa]CR[aa]
;W[rb]CR[rb]
;B[ra]CR[ra]
;W[sb]CR[sb]
;B[sc]CR[sc]TR[qa][sd]C[Scribe [?\]: add another "leg", q18, to previous stones and Black is alive regardless of who plays first
HuZuRsUz [22k?\]: egemen bu kız asmıs helal
IdnOuNaGe [8k?\]: miai
Scribe [?\]: Good to memorize these
HuZuRsUz [22k?\]: :=)
]))))
(;W[]C[wrong [1d?\]: R12 the MOST urgent point ^_^

]KGSSW[6.50])
(;W[as]CR[as]C[zee [8k\]: B should defend here

]
;B[qh]CR[qh]C[MontFuji [13k\]: R12
Scribe [?\]: these white stones n13 and r10 are threats to the upper right black group
Akamaru [6k\]: a1 is inefficient move;)
Scribe [?\]: must defend at r12
kjp [6k\]: if you double pass, the game is over
Bodo212 [14k\]: ok
idunnoyou3 [9k\]: k
olczyk [16k\]: ok
playm8 [7k?\]: ok
glint [12k?\]: yes
idunnoyou3 [9k\]: Yup
Jubjub [17k\]: yes
Ildefonse [10k\]: yes
agui [7k\]: yes
krneki [10k\]: yes
weezou [11k\]: ok
nutcase [1k\]: ok, clear :)
jas [15k?\]: clear
balance [3k\]: thankx
krneki [10k\]: ok
playm8 [7k?\]: ok
im2bad4U [12k\]: last post :)

]))