(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50] PW[guojuan]PB[guojuan]WR[5p]BR[5p]DT[2005-01-23]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[Uvas [-\]: hello MysticoN [24k\]: yup okhna [15k\]: yes Scribe [?\]: yes handtalk [8k\]: hi Uvas [-\]: yup zviratko [12k\]: yes Laylasan [18k\]: yes Sumo [8k\]: hi revo [16k\]: yea kole [4k\]: yes Mokuseki [10k\]: yes ] ;AW[cc][jc][fd][pk][pl][om][rm][on][oo][po][oq][pq]AB[pd][df][cj][pm][pn][rn][qo][dp][qp][jq][nq][qq]LB[lc:D][ff:C][qf:B][fp:A]TR[pk][pl][om][on][oo][oq]C[playm8 [7k?\]: i like black zee [8k\]: B to play Scribe [?\]: Black to play Xris [7k\]: i like c nutcase [1k\]: A zviratko [12k\]: A jas [15k?\]: c MysticoN [24k\]: C glint [12k?\]: ok thx starline [6k\]: b nesepi [6k\]: b Centurion [8k\]: c Wibren [12k?\]: homework balance [3k\]: see you kjp [6k\]: thx Otop [6k\]: a Xris [7k\]: oh Scribe [?\]: Homework Out [14k?\]: Thank You Ildefonse [10k\]: ok bye robau [26k?\]: :) Jubjub [17k\]: B jas [15k?\]: ok see you Xris [7k\]: ok mandy [16k?\]: thanks Xanthus [13k\]: thanks Ildefonse [10k\]: ok starline [6k\]: thanks playm8 [7k?\]: ok, cya ^^ tibra [10k?\]: thank you a lot cropette [3k\]: thx olczyk [16k\]: Thank you. Bodo212 [14k\]: thank very much mandy [16k?\]: bye see u tarragone [15k\]: see you Aristocles [13k?\]: ok thanks krneki [10k\]: thank you very much! copperhead [9k\]: see you and thanks a lot zviratko [12k\]: thanks apitoo [4k\]: thx Scribe [?\]: Xiexie Guojuan laoshi Taiteki [10k?\]: thx! Liquid [16k\]: thank you ;) jas [15k?\]: thank you balance [3k\]: thank you SecondMoon [13k\]: thx pel [14k?\]: thanks Bardock [5k\]: THX TO ING FOUNDATION kalim [14k\]: Thank you! robau [26k?\]: thank you! teroon [19k?\]: thank you Xris [7k\]: gute nacht apitoo [4k\]: cu Taiteki [10k?\]: see you zee [8k\]: thanks a lot Centurion [8k\]: thank you krneki [10k\]: bye! playm8 [7k?\]: thx for teaching Jubjub [17k\]: thanks Liquid [16k\]: Gute Nacht ;) *g* nutcase [1k\]: thx, guo juan laoshi Bodo212 [14k\]: bye - thx janine [?\]: tanks Stav [7k\]: thxxxx bye! vince [6k\]: thx balance [3k\]: bye agui [7k\]: Thank you very much Lamrin [11k\]: thank you DrGoPlayer [4k\]: thank you! Kikuchyo [?\]: thx guojuan zee [8k\]: thanks to ING MontFuji [13k\]: thank you z41n3 [20k\]: zhx jas [15k?\]: thsnks jantiff [7k\]: thanks, guojuan & mingjiu ! au2 [2k\]: THANKS to ING FOUNDATION wrong [1d?\]: thank You hoist [?\]: thanks you Bardock [5k\]: thx Xanthus [13k\]: bye! tarragone [15k\]: bye Kikuchyo [?\]: bye playm8 [7k?\]: cya jas [15k?\]: bye MysticoN [24k\]: bye robau [26k?\]: byebye agui [7k\]: bye Scribe [?\]: Thanks to the Ing Foundation, Mingjiu and Guojuan mandy [16k?\]: bye wrong [1d?\]: bye bye nutcase [1k\]: thx to ing foundation starline [6k\]: bye au2 [2k\]: thanks to SCribe allybaba [12k?\]: thanks copperhead [9k\]: bye weezou [11k\]: thx veruy much Taiteki [10k?\]: bye weezou [11k\]: bye tibra [10k?\]: bye mingjiu [7p\]: bye raistlin [10k?\]: bye allybaba [12k?\]: bye Otop [6k\]: thx Scribe au2 [2k\]: thanks to the teachers im2bad4U [12k\]: gg Unesential [21k?\]: did anyone of you Unesential [21k?\]: record the lesson? ibo2go [16k\]: hi grmaster ibo2go [16k\]: is thgere a recording of this lecture? kalim [14k\]: yup stuey [?\]: yes aditsu [12k\]: no we can't hear ^^ Santa [6k\]: hello Jakobicek [17k\]: yes okhna [15k\]: lol BrunnenG [17k\]: lol Ives08 [8k\]: lol aditsu [12k\]: j/k kalim [14k\]: heh ;0 taudrilly [18k\]: lol Santa [6k\]: a new computer for christmas zviratko [12k\]: new ears Koreangrl8 [18k\]: yes. taudrilly [18k\]: yes okhna [15k\]: rifght Mokuseki [10k\]: yeah BrunnenG [17k\]: yeah richieb [21k\]: yes spingle [9k\]: yeah Prodigious [15k\]: Yes. popie [?\]: yes Wook [-\]: works fine alchemist2 [20k\]: yes MysticoN [24k\]: I woild take B Jakobicek [17k\]: new ears fearsome MysticoN [24k\]: would* Scribe [?\]: Homework: Black to Play IdnOuNaGe [8k?\]: humm Scribe [?\]: Two minutes to decide! Arctic [1d\]: a looks best to me Keido [12k?\]: B revo [16k\]: C Uvas [-\]: c Peitolm [19k\]: c IdnOuNaGe [8k?\]: only 1 possibility? MysticoN [24k\]: B okhna [15k\]: c Baga [11k\]: A if it was me Santa [6k\]: I want to play at A DrGoPlayer [5k\]: c Bodo212 [14k\]: C Galerkin [9k\]: c Astrae [6k\]: A ndkrempel [5k\]: A azrael271 [19k\]: d popie [?\]: c taudrilly [18k\]: D Gnolli [10k\]: a Naje [10k\]: a Xanthus [12k\]: C Koreangrl8 [18k\]: a rzhao [5k\]: a hansb [2k?\]: B Mokuseki [10k\]: A Uvas [-\]: cccc Laylasan [18k\]: B kyrilin [19k\]: i want to play all^^ IdnOuNaGe [8k?\]: A swilks [6k\]: a atman [4k\]: B, this is where white wants to play next zee [10k\]: A handtalk [8k\]: c DrGoPlayer [5k\]: d and b aze miai lysyss [12k\]: b MysticoN [24k\]: B rakdver [14k\]: d IdnOuNaGe [8k?\]: A Brutha [11k?\]: b stuey [?\]: D zviratko [12k\]: B Mokuseki [10k\]: A Jakobicek [17k\]: b Santa [6k\]: can we only play one move? Otop [6k\]: b aditsu [12k\]: A glint [12k?\]: D spingle [9k\]: c okhna [15k\]: a vince [6k\]: c Sumo [8k\]: E Koreangrl8 [18k\]: A okhna [15k\]: ops Bodo212 [14k\]: better N 17 than M 16? Uvas [-\]: hgehe glint [12k?\]: hehe Santa [6k\]: if we are fast ;-) IdnOuNaGe [8k?\]: A MysticoN [24k\]: :p brx [13k\]: b okhna [15k\]: A MysticoN [24k\]: B Wook [-\]: what's about giving a reason for your descision? Uvas [-\]: na Aristocles [13k?\]: c goglu [-\]: A Xanthus [12k\]: a MysticoN [24k\]: Blac need B MysticoN [24k\]: black Laylasan [18k\]: ^^ Uvas [-\]: c Ishikawa [7k\]: B HuZuRsUz [22k?\]: o MysticoN [24k\]: if white wins top right .. white is leading IdnOuNaGe [8k?\]: A because Q16 is not in difficulty Otop [6k\]: a ndkrempel [5k\]: B Scribe [?\]: What is the board situation ? Scribe [?\]: In the lower right, white has strong outside influence, Black got corner Scribe [?\]: Important for white to use this influence, while black must make it ineffective Scribe [?\]: Black should contiunue to play for territory and prevent white from attacking Astrae [6k\]: K5 isn't possible for black instead of F4 ? Laylasan [18k\]: ok Koreangrl8 [18k\]: Thank you Scribe [?\]: white territory on right is not that big, to gain this white gave up two territories to black popie [?\]: no Grimley [9k\]: no ] (;B[ff]CR[ff]C[Uvas [-\]: yay Wook [-\]: using the right side wall ] (;W[fp]CR[fp]) (;W[hq]CR[hq]C[Koreangrl8 [18k\]: yep Scribe [?\]: Black can not play for both terroritory and moyo ])) (;B[fp]CR[fp]C[Koreangrl8 [18k\]: a is defensive move. IdnOuNaGe [8k?\]: D7 is not possible for white ? Mokuseki [10k\]: clear taudrilly [18k\]: yes Bodo212 [14k\]: yes kyrilin [19k\]: yes popie [?\]: xeah Jakobicek [17k\]: yup glint [12k?\]: sounds reasonable kole [4k\]: F4 better than F3 ? okhna [15k\]: ok IdnOuNaGe [8k?\]: hum ok Scribe [?\]: Correct answer Scribe [?\]: F4 ] ;W[qf]CR[qf] ;B[nc]CR[nc]C[aditsu [12k\]: I think f4 is the standard shape for double-wing formation zviratko [12k\]: ok Bodo212 [14k\]: ok kalim [14k\]: yes okhna [15k\]: clear taudrilly [18k\]: ja popie [?\]: jo Mokuseki [10k\]: clear ]) (;B[qf]CR[qf]C[IdnOuNaGe [8k?\]: to reduce D7 is not possible to white ? ] ;W[hq]CR[hq] ;B[jo]CR[jo]))