(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1650]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[jujo]PB[jujo]WR[9p]BR[9p]DT[2005-02-06]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[deft [4d\]: it's recent
fab [2d\]: it's about one month ago
GrandYan [7k?\]: I see, thanks!
robau [25k?\]: hi
Uvas [-\]: hello
TheWayToGo [17k?\]: hi
GrandYan [7k?\]: Hello
krneki [9k\]: hello
jbb [17k\]: hi
janine [?\]: hi
vonski [7k\]: hi
kalim [14k\]: hello!
DiscoStu [17k?\]: hi
er4ser [13k\]: hi
glint [11k?\]: hi :)
Notochord [4k\]: hello!
darek63 [10k\]: hi
EnmaSotsu [30k?\]: hi^^
Q [7k\]: Hi :)
Sh [14k\]: I've heard sth ;)
richieb [21k\]: hi
smuin [?\]: hi
Krzysztof [12k\]: hi
DrGoPlayer [5k\]: hi
Philidor [10k\]: hello
Sh [14k\]: hi
nobuyukigo [?\]: hi
nrgdw [5k\]: :-)))
Alchem [17k\]: hi
Uvas [-\]: yes
Sh [14k\]: yes
janine [?\]: yes
Guenh [20k?\]: yes
okhna [15k\]: yes
richieb [21k\]: yes
DiscoStu [17k?\]: yes
er4ser [13k\]: yes
krneki [9k\]: yes
Lilltiger [13k\]: yes
cocoon [9k\]: yes
Bardock [5k\]: yes
vonski [7k\]: yes
Out [17k\]: Yes
spingle [10k\]: yeah ;)
Thistle [4k\]: fine
Alchem [17k\]: yes
kalim [14k\]: yes
jbb [17k\]: y
DiscoStu [17k?\]: fine
smuin [?\]: hear u
glint [11k?\]: we can hear you..
CALVINSUN [1d\]: yes
jeko [18k\]: yes i hear you
thespis [6k\]: yes
Sandbox [20k\]: yes
Pepin [9k?\]: roughly
nobuyukigo [?\]: yes
gertzu [16k\]: y
Jakobicek [16k\]: i cant:)
Jakobicek [16k\]: :(
spingle [10k\]: if you can't hear try restarting kgs, it usually fixes it.
Scribe [?\]: Rui Naiwei Black
okhna [15k\]: just reenter the room
Jakobicek [16k\]: ok
]
;B[pd]CR[pd]C[okhna [15k\]: *re enter the game
GrandYan [7k?\]: O, CHina won this one right?
]
;W[dd]CR[dd]
;B[qp]CR[qp]
;W[dq]CR[dq]C[cocoon [9k\]: hi
]
;B[oq]CR[oq]C[janine [?\]: yeah, china won the last game
]
;W[qj]CR[qj]C[monchacha [10k\]: hello jujo
Jakobicek [16k\]: nice i can hear it
Jakobicek [16k\]: hello jujo
]
;B[dn]CR[dn]C[Scribe [?\]: common fuseki, white separates blacks moyo
flush [2d\]: go seigen
]
(;W[co]CR[co]C[Uvas [-\]: hello
]
;B[cf]CR[cf]C[janine [?\]: hi jujo, hi all
Scribe [?\]: common response by white
]
;W[fc]CR[fc]C[Sh [14k\]: hell-o
]
;B[bd]CR[bd]
;W[cc]CR[cc]
;B[ci]CR[ci]C[TheWayToGo [17k?\]: looks nice to black
Scribe [?\]: currnet pattern to play simple fuseki and start the fighting in the middle game
]
(;W[cn]CR[cn]C[smuin [?\]: i hear ok
Thoravatar [7k\]: just reconnect and it will be allright
jramon [14k\]: it's ok for me too
TheWayToGo [17k?\]: "the struggle to get ahead"
spingle [10k\]: the audio is ok
gladden [8k\]: ok
KoboldLord [7k\]: Well, Scribe is summarizing, so I suppose you don't really need the sound.
glint [11k?\]: ok here
Scribe [?\]: White c6 is big.  does two jobs.  reduce black potential and increase own
]
(;B[ql]CR[ql]C[GrandYan [7k?\]: DOuble sound of stones :)
Q [7k\]: ok
Scribe [?\]: therefore black will push from the shimari (play at r8)
]
;W[qf]CR[qf]C[Tjalveboy [16k\]: surely sente as well, to save R10?
Scribe [?\]: black leaves the left side with sente.  even fuseki
]
;B[qh]CR[qh]C[TheWayToGo [17k?\]: sprotch
]
;W[of]CR[of]C[Scribe [?\]: common move to separate white
]
;B[nc]CR[nc]C[Scribe [?\]: severe
]
(;W[rd]CR[rd]C[Scribe [?\]: therefore white prevents by playing s16 herself
]
(;B[pi]CR[pi]C[Scribe [?\]: therefore black tenuki's the top and plays at q11
Scribe [?\]: q11 vital point for both sides
glint [11k?\]: multi-purpose moves
Scribe [?\]: q11 one move, more than one job:  try to escape, attack white r10
]
(;W[qc]CR[qc]C[Kempsville [12k?\]: made two weak W GROUPS
Scribe [?\]: black already succeeded in splitting white, time to move on to next goal, protect the top black three stones
]
(;B[kc]CR[kc]C[glint [11k?\]: interesting
Scribe [?\]: therefore black can not play q10 now, must help top stones first and prevent white move at m17
]
(;W[pj]CR[pj]C[jas [16k\]: j17
]
;B[ni]CR[ni]
;W[oj]CR[oj]
;B[ng]CR[ng]C[kalim [14k\]: is kgs stone sound, sound like actual stone sound?
DIMAS [13k?\]: Q8?
]
(;W[pl]CR[pl]C[Scribe [?\]: black p8 dual purpose: white bad shape. black increase territory
]
;B[qm]CR[qm]C[Kingu [-\]: j'entends des voix...
Scribe [?\]: therefore white o14 not the direction of play
]
;W[mk]CR[mk]C[flogo [2k\]: hehe
jbb [17k\]: hello
]
(;B[eq]CR[eq]C[Pepin [9k?\]: je vois des pierres mooooortes, partout 
]
(;W[dp]CR[dp]C[egemen [11k\]: i am not sur if that is stone sound
flogo [2k\]: why d4 ?
Scribe [?\]: black e3 is probing move....asking move
]
(;B[ip]CR[ip]C[Pepin [9k?\]: ok, being serious now 
Pepin [9k?\]: hi eberybody
GrandYan [7k?\]: That's the stone sound you hear :)
zee [10k\]: not a good exchange for W
zee [10k\]: E4
Scribe [?\]: therefire better for white to play d4 directly without strengthening black
janine [?\]: ic
Slarty [2k\]: W strongest corner this way
okhna [15k\]: w will start a fight
Scribe [?\]: j4 means that black believes the white stones at p10 are weak
Scribe [?\]: fourth line good for attack (center, influence, power)
Scribe [?\]: third line good for territory
zee [10k\]: bad move for B
]
;W[ld]CR[ld]
;B[lc]CR[lc]C[gonowhere [7k\]: His wife's game
Uvas [-\]: if nobody was here, would there still be sound of stone?
Darkheart [11k\]: what are they doing if i may ask ?
flogo [2k\]: what is this game ?
jbb [17k\]: Sound like inside a train
GrandYan [7k?\]: (Not in KGS, but over the mic)
]
;W[nd]CR[nd]
;B[mc]CR[mc]
;W[nf]CR[nf]
;B[mg]CR[mg]
;W[kk]CR[kk]
(;B[jh]CR[jh]C[zee [10k\]: Center is weak and top is hard to live
Brutha [7k?\]: black was even before seperated
]
;W[kq]CR[kq]
;B[ko]CR[ko]C[Scribe [?\]: now the game favors white a little bit
]
;W[ir]CR[ir]C[goglu [-\]: Rui Naiwei  vs Park Jieun
zee [10k\]: Easy invasion for W due to J4 being high
Scribe [?\]: first white makes good shape an settles below
]
;B[hq]CR[hq]
;W[hr]CR[hr]
;B[gq]CR[gq]C[kalim [14k\]: oh, i thought that was the computer ;0
]
;W[mq]CR[mq]C[Scribe [?\]: were j4 at j3 this invasion would not be a problem for black
]
(;B[mo]CR[mo]C[flogo [2k\]: who is who ?
]
;W[or]CR[or]C[krneki [9k\]: this is a pro game?
]
;B[nr]CR[nr]C[janine [?\]: wow! how you know?
goglu [-\]: Rui Naiwei is Black
]
;W[nq]CR[nq]C[EnmaSotsu [30k?\]: lol
GrandYan [7k?\]: HmmWhci
Uvas [-\]: I am me!
flogo [2k\]: ok
]
;B[pr]CR[pr]C[deft [4d\]: I replayed this game also
]
;W[op]CR[op]
;B[pq]CR[pq]
;W[mr]CR[mr]C[Jakobicek [16k\]: sad i cant hear the commentary...
janine [?\]: WOW!
]
;B[on]CR[on]C[GrandYan [7k?\]: Which year is this deft?
Uvas [-\]: none yet
]
;W[ik]CR[ik]C[zee [10k\]: W has sente to come out
zee [10k\]: hard for B
Scribe [?\]: hard game for black even thought white is split
Scribe [?\]: white has fast run
flush [2d\]: This game was also reviewed by Guo Juan for KGS+
Uvas [-\]: hah, they had to pay for it
okhna [15k\]: lol
KoboldLord [7k\]: Two different strong players will probably mention different points of interest.
Bodo212 [14k\]: nice thx
Djeki [16k\]: tks 
playm8 [7k?\]: this kind of lecture helps a lot
Hu [12k\]: Thank you!
Slarty [2k\]: thank you, very nice game!
yebisu [-\]: thank you for doing this
Aristocles [11k\]: thank you
glint [11k?\]: thx jujo :)
FabienO [21k\]: Thank you
DIMAS [13k?\]: thank you
Jakobicek [16k\]: thx
TonyTiger [5k\]: thank you jujo
au2 [2k\]: thanks Jujo
Xanthus [12k\]: thanks
Codexus [12k\]: thank you
gocabj [16k\]: thank you very much
okhna [15k\]: thank you very much
Jakobicek [16k\]: :)
Kempsville [12k?\]: thank you
Ersatz888 [15k\]: thanks
hansb [2k?\]: thx 
playm8 [7k?\]: thx jujo
ST0NE [14k\]: thanks
C0nd0r [20k\]: thx
haka [17k\]: Thanks a lot!
Guenh [20k?\]: Thank you very much
gertzu [16k\]: Thx
Bardock [5k\]: thx
KoboldLord [7k\]: Thank you.
deft [4d\]: Thank you!
rakdver [14k\]: thank you
janine [?\]: thanks
Stav [7k\]: thanks!
Tjalveboy [16k\]: thanks!
tibra [10k?\]: thank you
DiscoStu [17k?\]: thanks
GongSu [4k\]: thank you
muesli [8k\]: thanx
ihgo [8k\]: thanks a lot
iveseen [13k\]: thanks a lot
Ced [15k\]: thx
rzhao [5k\]: thx
monchacha [10k\]: thank you for you time 
thespis [6k\]: thank you jujo
olczyk [16k\]: Thank you
isshoni [20k?\]: thank you
Anvlak2 [20k\]: thanks
zee [10k\]: Great lecture thank you
FabienO [21k\]: I love you
QWerner [23k\]: thx
Djeki [16k\]: see ya
Hennuz [9k?\]: tu
au2 [2k\]: THANKS TO ING FOUNDATION
kieran [15k\]: thanks jujo
Alchem [17k\]: thanks
tomez [4k\]: thanks
Domme [11k\]: thx a lot
Jnaksu [?\]: Thank you :)
jeko [18k\]: very interresting, thanks !
Brutha [7k?\]: thx
TonyTiger [5k\]: your talking warm
Scribe [?\]: thanks to the Ing Foundation and thanks to you for listening to this lecture
spingle [10k\]: yeah, thankyou. Very interesting
Prometheus [11k\]: thank you 
flogo [2k\]: thanks
smuin [?\]: thank u jujo and ing foundation
ligo [8k\]: thanks jujo
ja [8k\]: thank you very much
richieb [21k\]: thanks jujo, great!
Santa [6k\]: thank you jujo !
ndkrempel [5k\]: thanks
mingjiu [7p\]: I am here.
jramon [14k\]: thx
vonski [7k\]: thank you jujo
au2 [2k\]: THANKS TO SCRIBE
nrgdw [5k\]: thxxx
alarique [11k\]: thx
jas [16k\]: if b j3 can w still l3?
flush [2d\]: Thanks
Q [7k\]: thanks, good night :)
Scribe [?\]: Xiexie Zhuhjiu
vince [6k\]: thank you
scribblede [8k\]: thank you
jas [16k\]: yhank you
richieb [21k\]: Yes ty scribe, as always
TheWayToGo [17k?\]: zaijian
seko [15k\]: thx
ElfeDeLune [?\]: thanks all
Out [17k\]: 謝謝
olczyk [16k\]: Who were the players?
npk196 [14k\]: thx
deft [4d\]: Rui Naiwei (B) vs. Park Jie-un (W)
er4ser [13k\]: is it over??
olczyk [16k\]: thanks.
Xanthus [12k\]: other lecture
Kempsville [12k?\]: yes the lecture is over
Xanthus [12k\]: mingjiu
])
(;B[lp]CR[lp]C[Scribe [?\]: black n5 was a slow move
Scribe [?\]: now black has split white (bottom and right) and can attack
]
(;W[lq]CR[lq]C[zee [10k\]: much better for B
]
;B[no]CR[no]C[Scribe [?\]: one move enclose
DIMAS [13k?\]: N9 looks not good
]
;W[nr]CR[nr]C[Brutha [7k?\]: why o2?
]
;B[ik]CR[ik])
(;W[nr]CR[nr]
;B[or]CR[or]
;W[mp]CR[mp]
;B[mo]CR[mo]
;W[no]CR[no]
;B[mn]CR[mn]
;W[np]CR[np]
;B[om]CR[om]C[Scribe [?\]: still white is split
zee [10k\]: also better for B
])))
(;B[kp]CR[kp]
;W[kg]CR[kg]C[Scribe [?\]: first white takes care of a less strong group up top
Scribe [?\]: then attack
]
;B[li]CR[li]
;W[ji]CR[ji]C[Scribe [?\]: first defense, then attack
zee [10k\]: very hard for B to handle
]
;B[lf]CR[lf]C[flush [2d\]: rui nawei is jujo's wife?
]
;W[kf]CR[kf]
;B[le]CR[le]
;W[md]CR[md]
;B[ke]CR[ke]
;W[kd]CR[kd]
;B[je]CR[je]
;W[jd]CR[jd]
;B[ie]CR[ie]
;W[jc]CR[jc]C[janine [?\]: yes
flush [2d\]: ooh
zee [10k\]: B is seperated into 2 groups
]))
(;B[iq]CR[iq]
(;W[kq]CR[kq]
;B[er]CR[er])
(;W[gq]CR[gq]C[Scribe [?\]: otherwise j3 is the correct move for blakc
]
;B[lp]CR[lp])))
(;W[ep]CR[ep]
;B[fp]CR[fp]C[lefuet [9k\]: GY: net, not ladder
]
(;W[fq]CR[fq]
;B[er]CR[er]
;W[fr]CR[fr]
;B[dp]CR[dp]C[TheWayToGo [17k?\]: too many cuting points ?
]
;W[eo]CR[eo]
;B[dr]CR[dr]
;W[cq]CR[cq]
;B[do]CR[do]
;W[cp]CR[cp]C[nutcase [1k\]: ladder
]
;B[gp]CR[gp]C[Brutha [7k?\]: why c4?
GrandYan [7k?\]: Ouch.
]
(;W[en]CR[en]C[DIMAS [13k?\]: F6 ?
npk196 [14k\]: E6?
flogo [2k\]: ok
]
;B[gr]CR[gr]C[Scribe [?\]: white can not play this way.  white is cut into three groups
])
(;W[hq]CR[hq]C[GrandYan [7k?\]: Ladder...
]
;B[en]CR[en]C[npk196 [14k\]: ok
]))
(;W[dp]CR[dp]C[GrandYan [7k?\]: Err, right.
GongSu [4k\]: why is d4 better for w than d2?
])))
(;B[nf]CR[nf]C[GongSu [4k\]: q17
Brutha [7k?\]: p15
ndkrempel [5k\]: q17?
Q [7k\]: o6?
goglu [-\]: k3
GrandYan [7k?\]: K3?
Uvas [-\]: p18?
Prometheus [11k\]: p18
fint [?\]: n3
Domme [11k\]: k3
npk196 [14k\]: P16
TheWayToGo [17k?\]: o5 ?
jcbrookly1 [?\]: l3
isshoni [20k?\]: j3
ST0NE [14k\]: k3
Pempu [2k\]: S12
kieran [15k\]: P6
nutcase [1k\]: K3 
Galerkin [9k\]: j17
Uvas [-\]: ok
moichido [14k\]: q17
glint [11k?\]: p16
haka [17k\]: k3 or p18?
Scribe [?\]: white will not answer on the top, moves on the top are not big for white
]
;W[jq]CR[jq]C[Hu [12k\]: Good choice, ST0NE[14k\].
Scribe [?\]: important lesson from this game...dont allows follow your opponent
Stav [7k\]: always*
Scribe [?\]: k3 is last big point on the board
glint [11k?\]: look at whole board
]))
(;W[nf]CR[nf]
;B[mg]CR[mg]
;W[le]CR[le]
;B[mk]CR[mk]
;W[pl]CR[pl]
;B[qm]CR[qm]
;W[nl]CR[nl]
;B[lm]CR[lm]C[Scribe [?\]: this sequence too easy for black
DIMAS [13k?\]: influence in the center
Scribe [?\]: hard to kill white
Scribe [?\]: but black gets terrority and center power
])
(;W[mk]CR[mk]
;B[ol]CR[ol]
;W[nj]CR[nj]
;B[mi]CR[mi]
;W[kk]CR[kk]C[Scribe [?\]: white must play q8 first to prevent black from forcing bad shape upon white via black p8
]))
(;W[ic]CR[ic]
;B[pj]CR[pj]
(;W[ob]CR[ob]
;B[ke]CR[ke]C[Scribe [?\]: white j17 is slow, black will take r10 via q10
DIMAS [13k?\]: N16?
Scribe [?\]: hard to attack these top balck three stones
])
(;W[je]CR[je]
;B[pc]CR[pc]C[Scribe [?\]: after black block at q17 almost alive
Scribe [?\]: white gets almost nothing from j17
])))
(;B[pj]CR[pj]C[swordsplay [8k\]: m17?
hansb [2k?\]: M17
npk196 [14k\]: P16?
rakdver [14k\]: m17
swilks [6k\]: white attack
jas [16k\]: k4
Scribe [?\]: similiar sequence with color reversed from before
Stav [7k\]: L17
]
;W[lc]CR[lc]C[moichido [14k\]: q
kieran [15k\]: L17
]
;B[ne]CR[ne]
;W[le]CR[le]
;B[nf]CR[nf]
;W[lg]CR[lg]C[GrandYan [7k?\]: White makes a moyo on the top then?
Scribe [?\]: white gains on top by sacrificing t10
Scribe [?\]: r10
Scribe [?\]: r10
]))
(;W[pj]CR[pj]
;B[ni]CR[ni]
;W[oj]CR[oj]C[hansb [2k?\]: O13
kjp [6k\]: o13
TheWayToGo [17k?\]: o10
GongSu [4k\]: O13
jas [16k\]: p11
CALVINSUN [1d\]: o13
Brutha [7k?\]: r17
npk196 [14k\]: P11
monchacha [10k\]: m11
]
;B[qc]CR[qc]C[Scribe [?\]: r17 by black correct followup move
]
;W[oi]CR[oi]
;B[oh]CR[oh]
;W[nh]CR[nh]
;B[ng]CR[ng]
;W[mh]CR[mh]
;B[og]CR[og]
;W[nf]CR[nf]
;B[mg]CR[mg]
;W[mf]CR[mf]
;B[lg]CR[lg]
;W[lf]CR[lf]
;B[li]CR[li]C[GrandYan [7k?\]: Now P10 under attack?
zee [10k\]: Bad result for W
]))
(;B[qc]CR[qc]
;W[pi]CR[pi]C[Scribe [?\]: following white s16 white can kill r12 with q11
]
;B[iq]CR[iq]
;W[lc]CR[lc]
;B[fq]CR[fq]
;W[rc]CR[rc]
;B[ne]CR[ne]C[Scribe [?\]: white s16 creates sequence that allows white to pressure black top three stones with m17 and s17
]
;W[le]CR[le]
;B[nf]CR[nf]
;W[og]CR[og]C[glint [11k?\]: good for W
Scribe [?\]: white on top growing naturally as black move out into center
Scribe [?\]: white right side now territory
Scribe [?\]: when attacking a group, mostly it is very hard to kill, therefore most times the correct course is to make profit from the attack while the opponent lives
]))
(;W[pi]CR[pi]
(;B[qe]CR[qe]
;W[rf]CR[rf]C[Scribe [?\]: black r15 results in loss of sente for black
]
;B[re]CR[re]C[Scribe [?\]: white q11 to capture black r12 and join the two white sets of stones
]
;W[lc]CR[lc])
(;B[rd]CR[rd]C[Scribe [?\]: black s16 dual purpose
]
(;W[lc]CR[lc]
;B[rf]CR[rf]C[Scribe [?\]: protects corner and allows black to connect to r12
Scribe [?\]: s16 is gote, but after gote sent
Scribe [?\]: e
]
;W[qe]CR[qe]
;B[re]CR[re]C[Scribe [?\]: now white has lost base
])
(;W[ph]CR[ph]
;B[iq]CR[iq]C[Scribe [?\]: correct white answer to black s16 is q12
Scribe [?\]: black leaves top right with sente
]))))
(;B[qg]CR[qg]
;W[qm]CR[qm]C[Scribe [?\]: why not black push from start point stone ?
cocoon [9k\]: r 7 too far from shimari
Scribe [?\]: this two space extension is very comfortable for white
Scribe [?\]: and reduces the black lower right potential
Scribe [?\]: black top corner still open as well
Scribe [?\]: no good follow up move to attack the two white stones
]
;B[oc]CR[oc]
;W[jq]CR[jq]C[Scribe [?\]: p17 required to finish top, gives white big point on the bottom at k3
]))
(;W[qm]CR[qm]C[lazy [?\]: weird audio probs, anybody else?
robau [25k?\]: no
KoboldLord [7k\]: Understandable for me.
isshoni [20k?\]: nope
]
;B[cn]CR[cn]
;W[do]CR[do]C[KoboldLord [7k\]: Somewhat staticky, but readable.
]
;B[en]CR[en]C[Uvas [-\]: cuts in and out for me
GrandYan [7k?\]: This looks much better for Black....
toktok [?\]: yes, sound pretty bad
Tjalveboy [16k\]: yes, very good for black
Scribe [?\]: black's block at c6 is a  good continuation for black....nearly terrritory
lazy [?\]: it just gave an error and killed the sound..
egemen [11k\]: its ok
okhna [15k\]: re enter lazy
]))
(;W[fp]CR[fp]C[Scribe [?\]: black 7 fast and does not lead to complicated joseki
]
;B[cf]CR[cf]
;W[fc]CR[fc]C[Scribe [?\]: possible variation
GrandYan [7k?\]: Hi Scribe :)
]
;B[bd]CR[bd]
;W[cc]CR[cc]
;B[ci]CR[ci]))