(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50] PW[mingjiu]PB[mingjiu]WR[7p]BR[7p]DT[2005-02-06]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[playm8 [7k?\]: hi krneki [9k\]: hi kalim [14k\]: hello! gertzu [16k\]: hi:) ligo [8k\]: hello biomorph [15k\]: hi Bardock [5k\]: yes playm8 [7k?\]: yes okhna [15k\]: hi janine [?\]: hi monique [?\]: yes krneki [9k\]: yes Galerkin [9k\]: yes zviratko [12k\]: yes Jakobicek [16k\]: hi Bodo212 [14k\]: yes FabienO [21k\]: good Jenny12yrs [13k\]: hi Galerkin [9k\]: good sound thespis [6k\]: hello Brutha [7k?\]: yes zviratko [12k\]: we hear you Xanthus [12k\]: hi okhna [15k\]: nice krneki [9k\]: very good Prometheus [11k\]: hello goglu [-\]: sound better than jujo Hennuz [9k?\]: hi Hu [12k\]: Hello ^^ rakdver [14k\]: hello Sh [14k\]: hi Domme [11k\]: better mic :) Tjalveboy [16k\]: hi ted [26k?\]: nice sound .\] Uvas [-\]: hi mingjiu kolben [1k?\]: yup TonyTiger [5k\]: yes Jenny12yrs [13k\]: now janine [?\]: :P Grimley [9k\]: yes how to kill that dead group Thoravatar [7k\]: the dead shape ] (;B[sb]CR[sb] ;W[rc]CR[rc] ;B[rb]CR[rb] ;W[rd]CR[rd]C[monchacha [10k\]: yes 4 Scribe [?\]: Homework from last week ] ;B[pc]CR[pc] ;W[qd]CR[qd] ;B[pb]CR[pb] ;W[pd]CR[pd] ;B[aa]CR[aa] ;W[oc]CR[oc]C[Grimley [9k\]: you dont need to kill dead groups ] ;B[ab]CR[ab] ;W[nc]CR[nc]C[Grimley [9k\]: they're dead already Tjalveboy [16k\]: true =9 ] ;B[ac]CR[ac] ;W[mb]CR[mb] ;B[ad]CR[ad] ;W[lc]CR[lc]C[xMe [5k\]: yes tibra [10k?\]: yes Hu [12k\]: One can use F2 Edit tool to place stones. okhna [15k\]: yes Thoravatar [7k\]: jeah woll997 [6k\]: How to live with A19? flogo [2k\]: unfortunately .. (-: zviratko [12k\]: how many ways Grimley [9k\]: 1 monchacha [10k\]: 4 okhna [15k\]: you asked for the best way hansb [2k?\]: five xMe [5k\]: only one Grimley [9k\]: tenuki Scribe [?\]: How many ways can White attack Black Thoravatar [7k\]: tenuki krneki [9k\]: tenuki cocoon [9k\]: six ! npk196 [14k\]: 3 Bardock [5k\]: 4 Tjalveboy [16k\]: 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 Prometheus [11k\]: 1 egemen [11k\]: 1 jeko [18k\]: yes Thoravatar [7k\]: hmmzz that's a shame ;) Scribe [?\]: white tenuki, black lives in ko. white must move locally FabienO [21k\]: now please :) tuesday [?\]: n19 Tjalveboy [16k\]: yes, now =) okhna [15k\]: next week npk196 [14k\]: why not now? monique [?\]: now npk196 [14k\]: now,pls glint [11k?\]: if U have time Jakobicek [16k\]: pls monique [?\]: pleaaaaaase Scribe [?\]: now only if you can give new homework for next week :) yuit [?\]: tenuki better flush [2d\]: A ] (;B[qc]CR[qc]C[cocoon [9k\]: at least 2 Scribe [?\]: First, White can not Tenuki Thoravatar [7k\]: q19 ] (;W[qa]CR[qa]C[Santa [6k\]: R19 doesn't kill Scribe [?\]: After Black r17 Black lives Thoravatar [7k\]: q19? ] ;B[ra]CR[ra] ;W[pa]CR[pa] ;B[ob]CR[ob]) (;W[pa]CR[pa] (;B[oa]CR[oa] ;W[qa]CR[qa]C[Santa [6k\]: 2 empty triangles lives in the corner ]) (;B[ob]CR[ob]C[tuesday [?\]: p18 ] ;W[ra]CR[ra] ;B[qa]CR[qa]C[Scribe [?\]: p19 black mistake ] ;W[qb]CR[qb]C[npk196 [14k\]: ko? ]))) (;B[ae]CR[ae]LB[na:G][oa:D][ra:E][nb:F][ob:C][qb:B][qc:A]C[glint [11k?\]: don't be pedantic Scribe [?\]: P18 works yebisu [-\]: p19 hansb [2k?\]: P19 tuesday [?\]: t17 Brutha [7k?\]: s19 hansb [2k?\]: S19 Thoravatar [7k\]: 019 flush [2d\]: Q19 npk196 [14k\]: oh npk196 [14k\]: ok Grimley [9k\]: o18.019 Thoravatar [7k\]: 019 Jakobicek [16k\]: s18? tuesday [?\]: t17 Prometheus [11k\]: 6 total Thoravatar [7k\]: 018 Thoravatar [7k\]: n19 rohff2813 [7k\]: O19 Prometheus [11k\]: q19 flogo [2k\]: R19 ? Grimley [9k\]: n19, o19 works as well Prometheus [11k\]: 019 Thoravatar [7k\]: n19 flogo [2k\]: and r19 no ? spingle [10k\]: lol hansb [2k?\]: N19 tuesday [?\]: q19 ] (;W[qc]CR[qc]C[playm8 [7k?\]: glint: if he doesn't have time, then why is he offering to teach us? ^^ glint [11k?\]: a turn of phrase m8 ] ;B[qb]CR[qb]) (;W[qb]CR[qb]C[glint [11k?\]: :P Brutha [7k?\]: rworks Scribe [?\]: White r17 so easy npk196 [14k\]: work playm8 [7k?\]: glint: pedantic is my middle name :p ] ;B[qc]CR[qc]C[Thoravatar [7k\]: no flush [2d\]: but ofcourse R17 is the best way because it leaves 0 ko threats :) ] ;W[pa]CR[pa]C[krneki [9k\]: works ]) (;W[ob]CR[ob]C[Brutha [7k?\]: works Scribe [?\]: five ways to date ] ;B[pa]CR[pa] ;W[qc]CR[qc] ;B[qb]CR[qb] ;W[ra]CR[ra]C[Scribe [?\]: R18 works ]) (;W[oa]CR[oa]C[Bardock [5k\]: R19 Brutha [7k?\]: t19? ] ;B[pa]CR[pa] ;W[qc]CR[qc]C[Bardock [5k\]: never mind Scribe [?\]: p19 works ]) (;W[ra]CR[ra]C[Thoravatar [7k\]: o18 npk196 [14k\]: not work Thoravatar [7k\]: jeah ] ;B[qa]CR[qa] ;W[qc]CR[qc]C[tuesday [?\]: 11 ways playm8 [7k?\]: maybe we should count the number of ways white has to NOT kill black ^^ Scribe [?\]: s19 works ]) (;W[sa]CR[sa]C[Brutha [7k?\]: or 17 Brutha [7k?\]: ;) okhna [15k\]: lol ndkrempel [5k\]: makes black live! yebisu [-\]: doesn't :D krneki [9k\]: no Sh [14k\]: nope ;) janine [?\]: no er4ser [13k\]: doesnt Tjalveboy [16k\]: doesn't... TonyTiger [5k\]: :) monchacha [10k\]: no ] ;B[qc]CR[qc] (;W[qa]CR[qa]C[Prometheus [11k\]: works well...for black ] ;B[ra]CR[ra]C[npk196 [14k\]: doesn't ]) (;W[pa]CR[pa]C[DIMAS [13k?\]: R18 Scribe [?\]: no ko ] ;B[ob]CR[ob])) (;W[nb]CR[nb]C[npk196 [14k\]: work Thoravatar [7k\]: works npk196 [14k\]: 6 ] ;B[qc]CR[qc] ;W[qa]CR[qa]C[Tjalveboy [16k\]: works, cause black can't extend ] ;B[ra]CR[ra] ;W[pa]CR[pa]TR[nb] ;B[ob]CR[ob] ;W[oa]CR[oa]C[Scribe [?\]: even white o18 works !! ]) (;W[na]CR[na]C[Thoravatar [7k\]: n19 o19 Thoravatar [7k\]: work Tjalveboy [16k\]: works Brutha [7k?\]: works Tjalveboy [16k\]: same as before... Jakobicek [16k\]: works npk196 [14k\]: works ])) (;B[]LB[ma:H][na:F][oa:E][ra:C][nb:G][ob:D][qb:B][qc:A]C[flush [2d\]: Q19 also kills right? Thoravatar [7k\]: only r19 and t17 do not work Grimley [9k\]: yeah.. TonyTiger [5k\]: Q19? Thoravatar [7k\]: q19 works Thoravatar [7k\]: H npk196 [14k\]: A ] (;W[ma]CR[ma]C[npk196 [14k\]: N19? Thoravatar [7k\]: works!! :D Scribe [?\]: very very good if you found this move (n19) Thoravatar [7k\]: tenuki = ko Scribe [?\]: This is the best way to kill Black ! Brutha [7k?\]: r17 seems to give black no ko threads spingle [10k\]: ok, that makes sense Scribe [?\]: helps both to kill and helps the outside flush [2d\]: I think two ko threats worth more than 1 point Tjalveboy [16k\]: yes! Uvas [-\]: ends Scribe [?\]: yes more Homework Please! Brutha [7k?\]: but with n19 black has threads glint [11k?\]: end Uvas [-\]: at end ] ;B[qc]CR[qc] ;W[pa]CR[pa] ;B[ob]CR[ob]TR[ma] (;W[ra]CR[ra]) (;W[oa]CR[oa]C[Scribe [?\]: due the n19 stone white can connect glint [11k?\]: yes DIMAS [13k?\]: yes Scribe [?\]: no need to create ko with s19 Jakobicek [16k\]: yup gertzu [16k\]: yes ])) (;W[pa]CR[pa]C[DIMAS [13k?\]: P19 Brutha [7k?\]: p18 Thoravatar [7k\]: only r19 and t17/19 do not work Bodo212 [14k\]: no yestion flogo [2k\]: thanks Scribe [?\]: NINE ! ways to kill this black playm8 [7k?\]: and this proves that it would have been quicker to count the ways white could not kill black in upper right ^^ spingle [10k\]: which is the best way then? ]))) (;B[pd]CR[pd] (;W[pp]CR[pp] ;B[dd]CR[dd]C[Thoravatar [7k\]: not threads but threaths ] ;W[dp]CR[dp] ;B[jd]CR[jd] ;W[qf]CR[qf] ;B[dj]CR[dj]C[Grimley [9k\]: mierenneuker BlueKid [7k\]: threats zee [10k\]: Question is what if W played here instead? cocoon [9k\]: p 14 better ? Tjalveboy [16k\]: what about white Q10? ] (;W[nd]CR[nd]C[Jenny12yrs [13k\]: ya starline [6k\]: m17 seems very deep ] ;B[pf]CR[pf] ;W[pg]CR[pg] ;B[of]CR[of] (;W[qe]CR[qe] ;B[od]CR[od]C[Thoravatar [7k\]: haha ok Thoravatar [7k\]: :D Scribe [?\]: thisis a bad white move o16 npk196 [14k\]: ok ] ;W[rc]CR[rc] ;B[nh]CR[nh]) (;W[qc]CR[qc] ;B[qe]CR[qe] ;W[ob]CR[ob] ;B[qg]CR[qg]C[Scribe [?\]: also good for black zee [10k\]: From last week npk196 [14k\]: ok Scribe [?\]: white shape is very thin npk196 [14k\]: so o16 is a bad move ])) (;W[nc]CR[nc]C[DIMAS [13k?\]: P15? krneki [9k\]: o16 moichido [14k\]: p15 janine [?\]: p15 starline [6k\]: p15 Prometheus [11k\]: p15 Brutha [7k?\]: p15 seems joseki muesli [8k\]: attach to the stronger stone FabienO [21k\]: i think im bad at fuseki :X glint [11k?\]: Q14 ReeZe [14k\]: R17 Bodo212 [14k\]: p 15? cocoon [9k\]: Q 14 Grimley [9k\]: how to continue after white m17> glint [11k?\]: ok zee [10k\]: W can P14 or R17 npk196 [14k\]: can we play S16? zee [10k\]: better than O17 ] (;B[pf]CR[pf] ;W[pg]CR[pg]C[Prometheus [11k\]: p15 then q17 ] ;B[of]CR[of] ;W[qc]CR[qc] ;B[qe]CR[qe] ;W[pc]CR[pc]LB[nd:A]TR[nc]C[zee [10k\]: O17 Scribe [?\]: white shape on top is not thin now Scribe [?\]: difference between white o16 and o17 ]) (;B[oe]CR[oe] ;W[qc]CR[qc] ;B[pc]CR[pc] ;W[qd]CR[qd]C[Scribe [?\]: black p15 splits white cleanly without helping either white stone ] (;B[pg]CR[pg]C[Tjalveboy [16k\]: I like influence ] (;W[pf]CR[pf] ;B[of]CR[of] ;W[og]CR[og]C[npk196 [14k\]: balck is better ] ;B[pi]CR[pi] ;W[ng]CR[ng] ;B[qg]CR[qg] ;W[rg]CR[rg] ;B[rh]CR[rh]C[starline [6k\]: seems ok ] ;W[rf]CR[rf] ;B[me]CR[me] ;W[ni]CR[ni] ;B[pk]CR[pk]C[Tjalveboy [16k\]: no way npk196 [14k\]: But if white 017 alive? glint [11k?\]: B better TonyTiger [5k\]: black seems good Thoravatar [7k\]: no okhna [15k\]: bad for w playm8 [7k?\]: i like black janine [?\]: black is much better akew [30k?\]: black is better jeko [18k\]: great for black shin04 [6k\]: b better ]) (;W[qg]CR[qg] ;B[ph]CR[ph] ;W[qh]CR[qh] ;B[pi]CR[pi] ;W[qj]CR[qj]C[playm8 [7k?\]: i still love black Tjalveboy [16k\]: yes, black is nice Bodo212 [14k\]: neither janine [?\]: too good for black kalim [14k\]: black huge moyo Graou [-\]: nice moyo... rzhao [5k\]: b has huge moyo ])) (;B[og]CR[og]C[playm8 [7k?\]: i like territory ] ;W[ph]CR[ph] ;B[oh]CR[oh] ;W[pi]CR[pi]C[cocoon [9k\]: b will type thank you ] ;B[nj]CR[nj]C[Tjalveboy [16k\]: nope kalim [14k\]: doesnt use o17 stone npk196 [14k\]: black center is strong playm8 [7k?\]: better for white than previously, but still, black building nicely cocoon [9k\]: ltille bvetter for w than the previous one glint [11k?\]: all good for B janine [?\]: white gets more than the last pattern kalim [14k\]: anyway to use that? Tjalveboy [16k\]: seems pretty good for white ST0NE [14k\]: better Tjalveboy [16k\]: white can invade kalim [14k\]: o17 ;0 ]))) (;W[of]CR[of]C[olczyk [16k\]: P15 or Q10? ] ;B[nd]CR[nd] ;W[qc]CR[qc] ;B[qd]CR[qd]C[Tjalveboy [16k\]: what about emphasizing the right side? ] ;W[rd]CR[rd] ;B[pc]CR[pc] ;W[rb]CR[rb] ;B[qb]CR[qb] ;W[rc]CR[rc]C[Tjalveboy [16k\]: Q10 or so ] (;B[mf]CR[mf] ;W[cc]CR[cc]C[janine [?\]: no npk196 [14k\]: no npk196 [14k\]: is bad for white Brutha [7k?\]: isn't c17 overplay? zee [10k\]: good if you like territory spingle [10k\]: better for w ]) (;B[fd]CR[fd] ;W[mf]CR[mf]C[janine [?\]: nope, sna-san is perfectly fine ])) (;W[qc]CR[qc] ;B[pc]CR[pc] ;W[qd]CR[qd] ;B[pe]CR[pe] ;W[qe]CR[qe] ;B[og]CR[og] ;W[ph]CR[ph] ;B[oh]CR[oh] ;W[pi]CR[pi]C[Th4n4t0s [6k\]: isnt d17 a bit better than san san ? ] ;B[nj]CR[nj] ;W[lc]CR[lc]C[zee [10k\]: easy for W to reduce ]) (;W[rd]CR[rd]C[Brutha [7k?\]: seems to slow Tjalveboy [16k\]: that's bad zee [10k\]: S16 not good Tjalveboy [16k\]: black secures his terrotory ])) (;W[dp]CR[dp] ;B[pp]CR[pp] ;W[dd]CR[dd] ;B[pj]CR[pj] ;W[nq]CR[nq]C[aditsu [12k\]: yes now Tjalveboy [16k\]: blacks moyo erased ] (;B[jd]CR[jd] (;W[pn]CR[pn]C[cocoon [9k\]: same catastrophe as before ] ;B[np]CR[np] ;W[mp]CR[mp]C[okhna [15k\]: isnt this the same kjp [6k\]: same game ] ;B[no]CR[no]C[npk196 [14k\]: the same Scribe [?\]: L6 is vital to both players ] (;W[qq]CR[qq]C[zee [10k\]: B should block ] (;B[qp]CR[qp] ;W[pq]CR[pq] ;B[oq]CR[oq]C[Tjalveboy [16k\]: scribe, that's a focal move... ] ;W[or]CR[or] ;B[op]CR[op] ;W[mr]CR[mr]C[kjp [6k\]: the game is rotated ] ;B[mo]CR[mo] ;W[lp]CR[lp]C[zee [10k\]: at p3 Ives08 [8k\]: P7? ST0NE [14k\]: f3 shin04 [6k\]: p7 DiscoStu [17k?\]: q2? Domme [11k\]: c10 DIMAS [13k?\]: M5? okhna [15k\]: yes fint [?\]: o10 thespis [6k\]: l6 kuuop [?\]: l6 npk196 [14k\]: G4 kyrilin [18k\]: p7? janine [?\]: p8? starline [6k\]: l6 Harleqin [5k\]: c6 Thoravatar [7k\]: s4? cocoon [9k\]: r 17 ? Philidor [10k\]: n10 Gral [5k?\]: g3 janine [?\]: if W p8? kjp [6k\]: auch zee [10k\]: too slow ] (;B[kn]CR[kn]C[Jenny12yrs [13k\]: nn kyrilin [18k\]: ^^ Scribe [?\]: black has no choice must play L6 zee [10k\]: B must play here DrGoPlayer [5k\]: b at o7? Tjalveboy [16k\]: ah, "focal move" tomez [4k\]: can black play m5 instead of L6 ? ]) (;B[fc]CR[fc] ;W[kn]CR[kn]) (;B[nm]CR[nm]C[npk196 [14k\]: no Scribe [?\]: L6 is a seam line point between white and black moyos zee [10k\]: L6 for B is a must npk196 [14k\]: it's to slow kjp [6k\]: slow ])) (;B[oq]CR[oq]C[spingle [10k\]: no q6 is higher Scribe [?\]: black r4 is a mistake ])) (;W[oq]CR[oq] ;B[po]CR[po] ;W[qr]CR[qr] ;B[ln]CR[ln]C[Brutha [7k?\]: q3? ])) (;W[no]CR[no]) (;W[qq]CR[qq]C[npk196 [14k\]: the same at before? aditsu [12k\]: what if black plays q6 instead of k16? Scribe [?\]: And so Mingjiu prefers r3 or o5 to respond to white k16 aditsu [12k\]: I mean before ]) (;W[qn]CR[qn]C[Brutha [7k?\]: why not white d10? ]) (;W[dj]CR[dj]C[zee [10k\]: Don't play Q6 for W Scribe [?\]: Therefore Mingjiu prefers o5 and r3 for white in response to black k16 glint [11k?\]: ok zee [10k\]: R6 even worse for W Rvarde [8k\]: k4 Bodo212 [14k\]: ok olczyk [16k\]: Let us not forget ... Scribe [?\]: Xiexie Mingjiu olczyk [16k\]: homework! npk196 [14k\]: yeah npk196 [14k\]: Homework C0nd0r [20k\]: ;) Sh [14k\]: lol ])) (;B[pn]CR[pn]) (;B[lq]CR[lq]C[Grimley [9k\]: what if played with 3 players ] ;W[qq]CR[qq] (;B[qp]CR[qp] ;W[pq]CR[pq]C[okhna [15k\]: third line is better ] ;B[op]CR[op] ;W[nr]CR[nr] ;B[mo]CR[mo]LB[lp:B][kq:A]TR[lq]C[thespis [6k\]: even thespis [6k\]: ? Brutha [7k?\]: too good for s ]) (;B[pq]CR[pq] ;W[qp]CR[qp] ;B[po]CR[po] ;W[pr]CR[pr] ;B[or]CR[or] ;W[qr]CR[qr]C[npk196 [14k\]: ok ] ;B[oq]CR[oq] ;W[qn]CR[qn]TR[pd][pj]C[janine [?\]: lee chang hao's fav style Scribe [?\]: marked black stones are in wrong direction from black wall in lower right Tjalveboy [16k\]: bad ])) (;B[oo]CR[oo]C[npk196 [14k\]: L4? ]) (;B[kp]CR[kp] (;W[qq]CR[qq] ;B[qp]CR[qp] ;W[pq]CR[pq] ;B[op]CR[op] ;W[oq]CR[oq] ;B[np]CR[np] ;W[mp]CR[mp]C[zee [10k\]: good for B ] ;B[mo]CR[mo] ;W[lo]CR[lo] ;B[lp]CR[lp] ;W[mq]CR[mq] ;B[mn]CR[mn]) (;W[no]CR[no] ;B[pn]CR[pn] ;W[pr]CR[pr] ;B[qq]CR[qq]C[janine [?\]: o5, not o6 ] ;W[kr]CR[kr]LB[nm:A]C[Scribe [?\]: Mingjiu does not like L4 due to white o6 kyrilin [18k\]: good for w ST0NE [14k\]: bad for black starline [6k\]: good for w Scribe [?\]: now black L4 is floating in sea of white npk196 [14k\]: ok shin04 [6k\]: n4 without r3 GongSu [4k\]: is that not a joseki? Xanthus [12k\]: what if lower left was black? ] ;B[])) (;B[kq]CR[kq]))) (;B[ra]CR[ra] ;W[rd]CR[rd] ;B[rc]CR[rc] ;W[qd]CR[qd] ;B[qc]CR[qc] ;W[pc]CR[pc] ;B[pb]CR[pb] ;W[pd]CR[pd] ;B[ob]CR[ob] ;W[nc]CR[nc] ;B[] ;W[nb]CR[nb] ;B[] ;W[na]CR[na] ;B[] ;W[qh]CR[qh]C[alibaba [7k\]: how many ways.... moichido [14k\]: 4 Scribe [?\]: Who is the weakest link? npk196 [14k\]: how many way again? npk196 [14k\]: ^^ C0nd0r [20k\]: ^^ janine [?\]: lol ^ ^ zee [10k\]: W to attack B, how many ways? okhna [15k\]: yes janine [?\]: yes okhna [15k\]: thank you very much au2 [2k\]: thank you glint [11k?\]: thx mingjiu C0nd0r [20k\]: thx Hennuz [9k?\]: thanks npk196 [14k\]: ok Bodo212 [14k\]: thx Aristocles [11k\]: ok thanks Bardock [5k\]: THX TO ING GO FOUNDATION! DIMAS [13k?\]: thx janine [?\]: thanks npk196 [14k\]: thx teacher olczyk [16k\]: Thank you ST0NE [14k\]: thanks tibra [10k?\]: thank you thespis [6k\]: thank you Tjalveboy [16k\]: thanks very much! hansb [2k?\]: thx Domme [11k\]: thx a lot Brutha [7k?\]: thx Sh [14k\]: thanks! gertzu [16k\]: thx rzhao [5k\]: thx akew [30k?\]: thanks rakdver [14k\]: thank you au2 [2k\]: THANKS TO ING FOUNDATION Gral [5k?\]: 40 ways to leave your lover iveseen [13k\]: thanks a lot EliteNewb [-\]: thanks evilGOer [11k?\]: thanks GongSu [4k\]: thank you manakem10 [-\]: thx tecza [15k\]: thx Codexus [12k\]: thank you mingjiu DiscoStu [17k?\]: thanks smuin [?\]: thank you and bye starline [6k\]: thx janine [?\]: happy lunar new year, mj playm8 [7k?\]: thx au2 [2k\]: THANKS TO SCRIBE zee [10k\]: thax very much muesli [8k\]: thanx jeko [18k\]: interresting, thanks vonski [7k\]: thank you ElfeDeLune [?\]: thanks ^^ vince [6k\]: thankyou spingle [10k\]: thankyou au2 [2k\]: bye bye okhna [15k\]: next week ^^ BobSmith [16k\]: thank you kjp [6k\]: cu - thx Domme [11k\]: bye Graou [-\]: thanks ST0NE [14k\]: cu Rvarde [8k\]: thx okhna [15k\]: bai npk196 [14k\]: bb Sh [14k\]: bye BobSmith [16k\]: bye ]))