(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1800]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[Wangzi]PB[THollmann]WR[3k]BR[4k]DT[2005-02-11]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[Uvas [-\]: hi
cookbook [10k\]: hi
Ranmakun1 [-\]: hi
playm8 [7k?\]: hi
postmanpat [9k?\]: hihi
Ameise [8k\]: hello
okhna [15k\]: yes
okhna [15k\]: clear
olczyk [16k\]: Yes
maruseru [?\]: yes
cookbook [10k\]: yes
Xanthus [11k\]: hi, yes
Bodo212 [13k\]: hello - very clear
DonGogo [-\]: hello
Uvas [-\]: same to you
cookbook [10k\]: same to you
rohff2813 [7k\]: Hi ^_^
Bodo212 [13k\]: thanks
maruseru [?\]: happy chinese new year to you too
playm8 [7k?\]: happy chinese new year! :-)
brx [14k\]: to you too
LastRonin [23k\]: ^^ thx
cookbook [10k\]: gxfc
okhna [15k\]: we wish you happy new year too
patanjali0 [6k\]: happy new year
nightrider [23k\]: begin
jantiff [6k?\]: hello sensei :)
Scribe [?\]: Xin nian kuai le Guo juan laoshi
ST0NE [14k\]: hello, happy new year
ZzZzZzZz [8k?\]: 恭喜發財
wrong [1d?\]: I want to be chinese :(
nightrider [23k\]: begin please
]
;B[pd]CR[pd]BL[1935.782]
;W[dp]CR[dp]WL[1940.427]C[THollmann [4k\]: okee
THollmann [4k\]: weer even op niveau hollmann

Sero [-\]: like me :)
]
;B[pq]CR[pq]BL[1920.515]
;W[ec]CR[ec]WL[1934.845]C[Wangzi [3k\]: OK

]
;B[qo]CR[qo]BL[1899.568]
;W[nc]CR[nc]WL[1926.249]
;B[qf]CR[qf]BL[1862.813]C[Scribe [?\]: Game between two young players, based upon experience rather than book learning
]
;W[jd]CR[jd]WL[1923.16]C[ndkrempel [5k\]: black is all on one side
olczyk [16k\]: How stong?
Bardock [5k\]: white
ivoSF [4k\]: black one one side
wrong [1d?\]: R5-R14 not cooperate good
goglu [-\]: I like white
patanjali0 [6k\]: white
jantiff [6k?\]: i like w :)
struggler [7k\]: I hate it if black plays like that
jarl [11k\]: white is better
Hennuz [9k?\]: white good
krneki [9k\]: i like white
olczyk [16k\]: I like White.
cookbook [10k\]: w better
jantiff [6k?\]: yes... and low
nightrider [23k\]: whit is stronger i think
wrong [1d?\]: R5-R14 both low!!!!!
]
(;B[cd]CR[cd]BL[1854.046]C[Bodo212 [13k\]: ok
Scribe [?\]: Black is all on one side of the board
Hennuz [9k?\]: chinese food yesterday
Scribe [?\]: Taisha terribly difficult with a multitude of variations
]
(;W[df]CR[df]WL[1913.791]C[LastRonin [23k\]: ^^
nightrider [23k\]: black catch firsht the sides and then the centre
cookbook [10k\]: lol
wrong [1d?\]: 'm crazy for chinese food too, though not chinese ^_^
Q [7k\]: ok :)
]
;B[ed]CR[ed]BL[1838.318]C[ivoSF [4k\]: i heared even pros got trouble with it
]
;W[dd]CR[dd]WL[1912.119]C[THollmann [4k\]: ik heb vandaag 2 partijen nagespeeld waarin de taisha voorkwam
THollmann [4k\]: relax

]
;B[de]CR[de]BL[1820.029]C[Wangzi [3k\]: hehe

]
;W[dc]CR[dc]WL[1908.427]
;B[ce]CR[ce]BL[1809.682]
;W[ee]CR[ee]WL[1906.301]C[THollmann [4k\]: och gut
THollmann [4k\]: je doet eens wat
THollmann [4k\]: je ziet wel

]
(;B[fd]CR[fd]BL[1799.604]
;W[cc]CR[cc]WL[1902.475]C[THollmann [4k\]: eignelijk best stom om deze variant te spelen als mijn ladder goed gaat en jou steen dara mooi staan
THollmann [4k\]: staat
THollmann [4k\]: op k16
Wangzi [3k\]: :P

]
;B[cf]CR[cf]BL[1766.338]TR[ed][fd][jd]C[Uvas [-\]: split
tarragone [14k\]: k16
jantiff [6k?\]: K16
bourrette [?\]: k16 stone
wrong [1d?\]: 2 groups
bourrette [?\]: bad fight for him
Scribe [?\]: white k16 limits mobility of the two Black stones (ef16)
Bardock [5k\]: lol
]
;W[ef]CR[ef]WL[1893.088]
(;B[ge]CR[ge]BL[1754.968]
;W[cg]CR[cg]WL[1865.605]C[Bodo212 [13k\]: yes
Uvas [-\]: :)
bourrette [?\]: oki
ST0NE [14k\]: yes
Ranmakun1 [-\]: yer
]
;B[bg]CR[bg]BL[1745.984]C[Scribe [?\]: Black tries to escape but inside group is heavy
]
;W[bh]CR[bh]WL[1862.045]C[THollmann [4k\]: crap

]
;B[ch]CR[ch]BL[1728.803]C[THollmann [4k\]: okee

]
;W[dg]CR[dg]WL[1859.931]C[THollmann [4k\]: dit is niet best
Wangzi [3k\]: hooray

Scribe [?\]: Looks like game over per Guojuan Laosho
]
(;B[bi]CR[bi]BL[1717.248]
;W[bf]CR[bf]WL[1851.848]
;B[ah]CR[ah]BL[1714.386]
;W[bd]CR[bd]WL[1850.149]TR[ed][fd][ge]C[Scribe [?\]: Laoshi
jantiff [6k?\]: ouch...
Scribe [?\]: Black lives but White benefits more from Black living than does Black
Miro [?\]: yeah
Scribe [?\]: E16, F16 and G15 are useless, cutting stones but the cut stones are now connected
maruseru [?\]: so apart from the ponnuki black still only has the right side
wrong [1d?\]: this looks like 1k-8d game
kole [5k\]: very sad
dnaigo [9k?\]: i think white win this game
okhna [15k\]: ok
ST0NE [14k\]: ok
]
(;B[lc]CR[lc]BL[1711.715]C[isshoni [15k\]: well they can be useful to launch an attack on K16-O18?
isshoni [15k\]: later
]
(;W[jc]CR[jc]WL[1843.822]C[THollmann [4k\]: damn
THollmann [4k\]: ik verlies

]
;B[le]CR[le]BL[1705.298]
(;W[jf]CR[jf]WL[1838.677]C[Scribe [?\]: The warikomi of L16 by Black creates two cutting points in White's shape, much weaker
]
;B[gg]CR[gg]BL[1702.354]
(;W[cj]CR[cj]WL[1794.38]C[THollmann [4k\]: etterbak
THollmann [4k\]: lol

wrong [1d?\]: "my opponent's vital point is my vital point too"
]
;B[di]CR[di]BL[1687.432]C[Wangzi [3k\]: dankje
THollmann [4k\]: welcome

glint [11k?\]: F12
patanjali0 [6k\]: f12?
Djeki [16k\]: f12?
Uvas [-\]: f12
bourrette [?\]: f12?
apitoo [4k\]: f12
Murugandi [14k\]: f11
Miro [?\]: F12?!
dnaigo [9k?\]: f11
]
(;W[ei]CR[ei]WL[1785.241]C[ndkrempel [5k\]: cutting shape
Scribe [?\]: Black four stones are very heavy, hard to run with these stones
patanjali0 [6k\]: hurts c10
Uvas [-\]: b can cut
Miro [?\]: it makes black stronger
gaius [13k\]: easily cut
spingle [9k\]: weakens c10
bourrette [?\]: breaking ouselves
maruseru [?\]: hurts c10
kalim [13k\]: lader doesnt work
glint [11k?\]: too close?
Djeki [16k\]: white touch black
jantiff [6k?\]: black D10 = torn keima
atman [4k\]: just helps black
bourrette [?\]: suicide
Osiris [8k\]: cut knight move shape
cookbook [10k\]: prevent connection
struggler [7k\]: black runs ahead
ihgo [7k\]: touch the weak stones
maruseru [?\]: family feud :)
ahau [?\]: b cuts on hoshi
Miro [?\]: makes black stronger
ahau [?\]: shape
]
;B[dj]CR[dj]BL[1683.005]C[yfh2 [6k?\]: but it is a leaning indirect attack
Scribe [?\]: White F11 works to close either door, either the Black stones on the left or the Black stones on the top
]
(;W[gi]CR[gi]WL[1768.457]C[goglu [-\]: black cuts through keima
Scribe [?\]: White E11 is not a good move. Black will "walk ahead" of White....disadvantagous for WHite
]
;B[ig]CR[ig]BL[1677.958]
;W[kg]CR[kg]WL[1749.439]
;B[hi]CR[hi]BL[1675.953]
(;W[gj]CR[gj]WL[1745.333]C[Scribe [?\]: White will have to return to defend at G10 after the H10 hane
]
(;B[ij]CR[ij]BL[1668.062]
;W[mf]CR[mf]WL[1706.53]
;B[nd]CR[nd]BL[1656.42]
;W[oc]CR[oc]WL[1694.444]
;B[od]CR[od]BL[1654.146]
;W[pc]CR[pc]WL[1668.994]
;B[mc]CR[mc]BL[1645.222]C[Uvas [-\]: r17
jantiff [6k?\]: should just R17
]
(;W[qd]CR[qd]WL[1666.038]C[swordsplay [8k\]: 3-3
kalim [13k\]: corner side
murky [?\]: s16
wrong [1d?\]: so, conclusion: when makin a fence, don't leave holes
Brutha [8k\]: r17
wrong [1d?\]: and ended in gote
Uvas [-\]: ok
cookbook [10k\]: ok
cookbook [10k\]: thanks
kjp [6k\]: why does W need to play R15
Anicha [10k\]: ok
patanjali0 [6k\]: ok
mingjiu [7p\]: yes
dnaigo [9k?\]: thxx
okhna [15k\]: thank you very much
wrong [1d?\]: thank You
maruseru [?\]: ok, thanks
gaius [13k\]: thanks a lot!
bourrette [?\]: thanks a lot
Djeki [16k\]: tks
ElfeDeLune [?\]: thanks
Ranmakun1 [-\]: thx
ST0NE [14k\]: thanks
ihgo [7k\]: thanks
arehucas [9k\]: thx guo
mingjiu [7p\]: yes
playm8 [7k?\]: thx
patanjali0 [6k\]: thx
Out [18k\]: Thank you laoshi.
isshoni [15k\]: thx
Jakobicek [16k\]: thanks
mingjiu [7p\]:  here
franzush [12k\]: thank you!
Bardock [5k\]: thx
jantiff [6k?\]: thank you.
Slarty [2k\]: thank you!
NitramF [6k\]: thx
Klops [12k\]: thanks
]
(;B[qe]CR[qe]BL[1641.795]
;W[rd]CR[rd]WL[1658.312]
;B[pj]CR[pj]BL[1639.72]
;W[of]CR[of]WL[1653.149]
;B[pf]CR[pf]BL[1634.843]
;W[kj]CR[kj]WL[1647.689]
;B[ik]CR[ik]BL[1625.586]
;W[cl]CR[cl]WL[1626.156]
;B[bk]CR[bk]BL[1612.461]
;W[ck]CR[ck]WL[1623.115]
;B[bj]CR[bj]BL[1607.495]
;W[kl]CR[kl]WL[1600.06]
;B[im]CR[im]BL[1605.291]
;W[hl]CR[hl]WL[1592.87]
;B[il]CR[il]BL[1603.192]
;W[kn]CR[kn]WL[1582.498]
;B[io]CR[io]BL[1598.885]
;W[ci]CR[ci]WL[1558.269]
;B[dh]CR[dh]BL[1586.128]C[THollmann [4k\]: toe maar

]
;W[bl]CR[bl]WL[1513.071]
;B[eh]CR[eh]BL[1570.849]
;W[fh]CR[fh]WL[1510.421]
;B[fg]CR[fg]BL[1565.051]
;W[eg]CR[eg]WL[1507.555]
;B[ek]CR[ek]BL[1554.63]C[THollmann [4k\]: leipe zaak

]
;W[fl]CR[fl]WL[1494.572]
;B[el]CR[el]BL[1550.353]
;W[fm]CR[fm]WL[1485.993]
;B[em]CR[em]BL[1530.462]
;W[hn]CR[hn]WL[1482.281]
;B[fn]CR[fn]BL[1499.35]
;W[dn]CR[dn]WL[1460.358]
;B[en]CR[en]BL[1487.225]
;W[hm]CR[hm]WL[1452.947]
;B[fp]CR[fp]BL[1483.609]
;W[in]CR[in]WL[1415.308]
;B[jn]CR[jn]BL[1427.133]
;W[jo]CR[jo]WL[1413.206]
;B[jm]CR[jm]BL[1423.255]
;W[ip]CR[ip]WL[1410.868]
;B[ko]CR[ko]BL[1418.134]
;W[ho]CR[ho]WL[1405.14]
;B[km]CR[km]BL[1416.133]
;W[ln]CR[ln]WL[1403.573]
;B[lm]CR[lm]BL[1414.938]
;W[mn]CR[mn]WL[1395.556]
;B[eq]CR[eq]BL[1409.448]
;W[dq]CR[dq]WL[1389.777]
;B[hq]CR[hq]BL[1402.943]
;W[iq]CR[iq]WL[1382.334]
;B[hr]CR[hr]BL[1376.848]
;W[mm]CR[mm]WL[1367.269]C[THollmann [4k\]: toch altijd wel boeiend de thaisa

]
;B[ll]CR[ll]BL[1362.488]C[Wangzi [3k\]: zeker

]
;W[mj]CR[mj]WL[1347.791]
;B[gh]CR[gh]BL[1360.422]
;W[nk]CR[nk]WL[1333.608]
;B[fi]CR[fi]BL[1356.406]C[THollmann [4k\]: okee
THollmann [4k\]: nieuwe fases

]
;W[pn]CR[pn]WL[1282.02]
;B[qn]CR[qn]BL[1353.296]
;W[oq]CR[oq]WL[1264.212]
;B[qk]CR[qk]BL[1341.885]
;W[oh]CR[oh]WL[1256.125]
;B[qh]CR[qh]BL[1337.692]
;W[qq]CR[qq]WL[1235.217]
;B[pr]CR[pr]BL[1329.979]
;W[qm]CR[qm]WL[1181.729]
;B[pp]CR[pp]BL[1322.005]
;W[rm]CR[rm]WL[1175.016]
;B[nq]CR[nq]BL[1294.057]
;W[rn]CR[rn]WL[1076.225]
;B[kp]CR[kp]BL[1274.171]
;W[kq]CR[kq]WL[1021.94]
;B[mp]CR[mp]BL[1249.362]
;W[lq]CR[lq]WL[998.802]
;B[lp]CR[lp]BL[1247.135]
;W[jp]CR[jp]WL[979.421]
;B[jr]CR[jr]BL[1234.515]
;W[ir]CR[ir]WL[971.351]
;B[is]CR[is]BL[1232.702]
;W[hp]CR[hp]WL[969.56]
;B[mr]CR[mr]BL[1216.395]
;W[gq]CR[gq]WL[964.456]
;B[gr]CR[gr]BL[1214.567]
;W[er]CR[er]WL[927.007]
;B[gp]CR[gp]BL[1198.061]
;W[fr]CR[fr]WL[920.093]
;B[fq]CR[fq]BL[1188.66]
;W[fk]CR[fk]WL[909.127]
;B[hk]CR[hk]BL[1178.135]
;W[gn]CR[gn]WL[904.973]
;B[eo]CR[eo]BL[1164.14]
;W[do]CR[do]WL[899.054]
;B[ro]CR[ro]BL[1153.944]
;W[po]CR[po]WL[877.205]
;B[qp]CR[qp]BL[1108.996]
;W[mq]CR[mq]WL[866.437]
;B[np]CR[np]BL[1075.13]
;W[oo]CR[oo]WL[838.072]
;B[pl]CR[pl]BL[1057.957]
;W[pm]CR[pm]WL[834.471]
;B[jq]CR[jq]BL[1040.784]
;W[gc]CR[gc]WL[752.247]
;B[ml]CR[ml]BL[1026.878]
;W[nl]CR[nl]WL[750.963]
;B[re]CR[re]BL[1001.882]
;W[rb]CR[rb]WL[735.37]
;B[li]CR[li]BL[956.494]
;W[lj]CR[lj]WL[727.101]
;B[ki]CR[ki]BL[953.08]
;W[ji]CR[ji]WL[721.098]
;B[jh]CR[jh]BL[943.219]
;W[jj]CR[jj]WL[711.052]
;B[kh]CR[kh]BL[910.706]C[brokedream [2k?\]: hoi douwe
brokedream [2k?\]: hoest in utrecht?

]
;W[mi]CR[mi]WL[678.056]
;B[lh]CR[lh]BL[876.888]
;W[gk]CR[gk]WL[669.781]
;B[jg]CR[jg]BL[862.583]
;W[kf]CR[kf]WL[650.724]
;B[mg]CR[mg]BL[852.65]
;W[ng]CR[ng]WL[645.637]
;B[mh]CR[mh]BL[827.229]
;W[rk]CR[rk]WL[624.684]
;B[rj]CR[rj]BL[821.286]
;W[sk]CR[sk]WL[623.177]
;B[sj]CR[sj]BL[813.557]
;W[ql]CR[ql]WL[620.564]
;B[sl]CR[sl]BL[804.062]
;W[rl]CR[rl]WL[618.648]
;B[al]CR[al]BL[746.161]
;W[am]CR[am]WL[615.69]
;B[ak]CR[ak]BL[743.651]
;W[bn]CR[bn]WL[612.77]
;B[hc]CR[hc]BL[723.291]
;W[hd]CR[hd]WL[602.796]
;B[fc]CR[fc]BL[693.005]C[brokedream [2k?\]: F17 F18 G18 G16 F15 B15 E18 

]
;W[hb]CR[hb]WL[537.757]
;B[fb]CR[fb]BL[683.268]
;W[eb]CR[eb]WL[523.629]
;B[kb]CR[kb]BL[672.075]
;W[jb]CR[jb]WL[515.249]
;B[ic]CR[ic]BL[666.364]
;W[gb]CR[gb]WL[509.427]
;B[ie]CR[ie]BL[664.177]
;W[kd]CR[kd]WL[478.98]
;B[lf]CR[lf]BL[610.671]
;W[fa]CR[fa]WL[444.744]
;B[oi]CR[oi]BL[588.875]C[Douwe [7k\]: hoi brokedram
Douwe [7k\]: wie ben jij

]
;W[nh]CR[nh]WL[399.747]
;B[ni]CR[ni]BL[579.567]
;W[lg]CR[lg]WL[394.402]
;B[me]CR[me]BL[557.45]C[brokedream [2k?\]: ik ben stalkor:) dis me nieuwe account

]
;W[if]CR[if]WL[385.095]
;B[hg]CR[hg]BL[553.768]C[brokedream [2k?\]: of heb ik nou de verkeerde douwe voor me misschien?

]
;W[ii]CR[ii]WL[372.127]
;B[hj]CR[hj]BL[548.87]C[brokedream [2k?\]: die douwe van het beginnerstouernooi van utrecht?
Douwe [7k\]: ja

]
;W[fs]CR[fs]WL[346.26]C[Spirit [10k?\]: W+0.5 volgens SE

]
;B[kr]CR[kr]BL[524.846]C[brokedream [2k?\]: wat denk jij?

]
;W[op]CR[op]WL[337.712]
;B[or]CR[or]BL[522.731]C[Spirit [10k?\]: ik denk dat de spelers beide nog wel een aantal fouten maken van een paar punten

]
;W[ld]CR[ld]WL[306.08]
;B[md]CR[md]BL[519.017]C[Spirit [10k?\]: maar tis wel enigzins close

]
;W[he]CR[he]WL[298.244]C[brokedream [2k?\]: absolutement

]
;B[nb]CR[nb]BL[487.786]
;W[ob]CR[ob]WL[295.54]
;B[ma]CR[ma]BL[486.265]
;W[oa]CR[oa]WL[275.305]C[brokedream [2k?\]: hmz kan van o7 geen vals oog worden gemaakt?
brokedream [2k?\]: P8 P7 O6 O5 O7 ??

]
;B[no]CR[no]BL[452.854]
;W[nn]CR[nn]WL[272.714]C[brokedream [2k?\]: nu niet meer duh...

]
;B[gs]CR[gs]BL[433.894]
;W[dr]CR[dr]WL[269.069]
;B[dm]CR[dm]BL[432.459]
;W[cm]CR[cm]WL[267.513]C[Spirit [10k?\]: dr zat nog wat aji in met Wp10
Spirit [10k?\]: maar misschien kon het wel dood ja

]
;B[ke]CR[ke]BL[373.903]
;W[je]CR[je]WL[260.216]
;B[ol]CR[ol]BL[361.152]
;W[om]CR[om]WL[258.44]
;B[kk]CR[kk]BL[321.033]
;W[oj]CR[oj]WL[251.164]C[brokedream [2k?\]: hmz met die snapback kan het niet
THollmann [4k\]: tja
Spirit [10k?\]: wit staat nu iets voor met dit erbij

]
;B[pi]CR[pi]BL[294.315]
;W[nj]CR[nj]WL[246.49]
;B[pk]CR[pk]BL[292.64]C[THollmann [4k\]: helaas
Spirit [10k?\]: euh?
THollmann [4k\]: werkte bijna :)
Spirit [10k?\]: dan niet 
Wangzi [3k\]: mja
brokedream [2k?\]: het kan wel met snapback....

]
;W[ka]CR[ka]WL[218.483]C[Spirit [10k?\]: het werkte wel jongens, beetje opletten :p

]
;B[la]CR[la]BL[288.799]
;W[ja]CR[ja]WL[217.406]C[brokedream [2k?\]: als w knipt op q11 kan daar weer een vals oog van worden gemaakt

]
;B[sd]CR[sd]BL[261.712]
;W[sc]CR[sc]WL[214.957]
;B[se]CR[se]BL[260.73]C[Spirit [10k?\]: waarsch staat wit alsnog iets voor

]
(;W[be]CR[be]WL[199.916]
;B[jk]CR[jk]BL[240.632]C[Spirit [10k?\]: auw
Wangzi [3k\]: ?
THollmann [4k\]: thx\\

]
;W[fe]CR[fe]WL[189.005]C[brokedream [2k?\]: uhhhhhhhhhhhh
THollmann [4k\]: ow
THollmann [4k\]: kut
brokedream [2k?\]: dat was niet slim
THollmann [4k\]: mag ik een undo, kijken hoe het afgelopen zou zijn
THollmann [4k\]: ?
Wangzi [3k\]: oke
Spirit [10k?\]: 6.5 punten erbij voor wit

])
(;W[be]CR[be]WL[213.466]
;B[fe]CR[fe]BL[259.273]C[brokedream [2k?\]: toch nie

]
;W[ff]CR[ff]WL[210.009]
;B[gf]CR[gf]BL[255.712]
;W[ih]CR[ih]WL[208.229]
;B[hh]CR[hh]BL[254.328]
;W[fj]CR[fj]WL[201.703]
;B[ej]CR[ej]BL[250.337]
;W[so]CR[so]WL[168.636]
;B[sp]CR[sp]BL[248.733]
;W[sn]CR[sn]WL[167.524]
;B[jk]CR[jk]BL[246.852]C[Spirit [10k?\]: W+4.5/5.5 gok ik

]
;W[na]CR[na]WL[150.305]
;B[mb]CR[mb]BL[244.992]
;W[af]CR[af]WL[150]
;B[ag]CR[ag]BL[243.531]
;W[go]CR[go]WL[150]
;B[kc]CR[kc]BL[240.804]
;W[hf]CR[hf]WL[150]
;B[ok]CR[ok]BL[236.343]C[Spirit [10k?\]: 9.5 volgens SE
Spirit [10k?\]: hm
brokedream [2k?\]: hmz wit wint met 5 groepen

]
;W[mo]CR[mo]WL[150]
;B[lr]CR[lr]BL[233.111]
;W[gd]CR[gd]WL[150]
;B[mk]CR[mk]BL[227.173]
;W[nm]CR[nm]WL[150]
;B[]BL[227.173]
;W[]WL[150]TW[aa][ba][ca][da][ea][ga][ha][ia][pa][qa][ra][sa][ab][bb][cb][db][ib][pb][qb][sb][ac][bc][hc][ic][qc][rc][ad][cd][id][ae][ce][de][ie][cf][gl][sl][bm][gm][sm][an][cn][on][ao][bo][co][io][ap][bp][cp][aq][bq][cq][ar][br][cr][as][bs][cs][ds][es]TB[lb][ne][oe][pe][mf][nf][of][rf][sf][ng][og][pg][qg][rg][sg][bh][fh][nh][oh][ph][rh][sh][ai][ei][qi][ri][si][aj][qj][jl][kl][rp][gq][kq][lq][mq][qq][rq][sq][nr][qr][rr][sr][hs][js][ks][ls][ms][ns][os][ps][qs][rs][ss]C[THollmann [4k\]: okee
Wangzi [3k\]: chill
THollmann [4k\]: goed gedaan
THollmann [4k\]: weer veel van geleerd
THollmann [4k\]: niet zwakke groepen kweken
THollmann [4k\]: hehe
THollmann [4k\]: euy wangzi
brokedream [2k?\]: jongens, volgende keer wel o7 groep killen
THollmann [4k\]: ik ga snel weg
THollmann [4k\]: want ik moet zo werken
Wangzi [3k\]: is goed
THollmann [4k\]: en nog eten en zo
Spirit [10k?\]: hoi
THollmann [4k\]: thx voor de pot
Wangzi [3k\]: jij ook bedankt
THollmann [4k\]: (y)
brokedream [2k?\]: oh shit ik moet ook effe eten
brokedream [2k?\]: brb
THollmann [4k\]: doeidoei!!!
Wangzi [3k\]: mzzl
Spirit [10k?\]: wat is de onderlinge score?
Wangzi [3k\]: euh
Wangzi [3k\]: in ieder geval sta ik voor

]KGSSW[75.50]))
(;B[qc]CR[qc]C[Harriman [3k\]: r17
swordsplay [8k\]: oh nm
kashon [8k\]: s17
Murugandi [14k\]: yes
krneki [9k\]: sansan
gaius [13k\]: R18 ?
Scribe [?\]: Question: where should Black play ?
Miro [?\]: dead
Murugandi [14k\]: haha
Scribe [?\]: Most often 3x3 is critical point in the corner
Scribe [?\]: valuable to both sides
]
(;W[rc]CR[rc]C[Miro [?\]: -.-
]
;B[qb]CR[qb]
;W[qe]CR[qe]
;B[pf]CR[pf]C[Murugandi [14k\]: yes...
]
(;W[rb]CR[rb]
;B[pb]CR[pb])
(;W[pb]CR[pb]
;B[rb]CR[rb]
;W[rd]CR[rd]
;B[nb]CR[nb]))
(;W[qb]CR[qb]C[Djeki [16k\]: why not r18?
]
;B[rc]CR[rc]
;W[rb]CR[rb]
;B[rd]CR[rd]
;W[mb]CR[mb]
;B[lb]CR[lb]
;W[nb]CR[nb]TR[qd]C[Scribe [?\]: White must not attack from S17
Scribe [?\]: rather R18 is the only way
])))
(;W[qc]CR[qc]C[Scribe [?\]: White hane of r16 is for nothing...an overplay
Murugandi [14k\]: r17
dnaigo [9k?\]: r17
cookbook [10k\]: N18 ?
]))
(;B[ii]CR[ii]
;W[ik]CR[ik]))
(;W[hj]CR[hj]
;B[ii]CR[ii]LB[gj:A]C[Scribe [?\]: White G10 better than hane at H10
]))
(;W[hf]CR[hf]
;B[gf]CR[gf]
;W[gi]CR[gi]))
(;W[fi]CR[fi]C[Scribe [?\]: Closes the door on the Black group of five stones
]
(;B[dj]CR[dj]C[Brutha [8k\]: c8
atman [4k\]: h12
maruseru [?\]: j12
ihgo [7k\]: H12
bourrette [?\]: h12?
Scribe [?\]: White F11 very fast
apitoo [4k\]: h12
ST0NE [14k\]: d8
jantiff [6k?\]: hane ?
glint [11k?\]: J12?
]
;W[hf]CR[hf]
;B[gf]CR[gf]
;W[hh]CR[hh]C[glint [11k?\]: ahh
Uvas [-\]: e9
dnaigo [9k?\]: wow 
patanjali0 [6k\]: aaah!!!
Murugandi [14k\]: hmm....
])
(;B[ig]CR[ig]
;W[dj]CR[dj]
;B[ei]CR[ei]
;W[ej]CR[ej]TR[fi]C[wrong [1d?\]: what if W E11 before C10??????
])))
(;W[hf]CR[hf]
;B[gf]CR[gf]))
(;W[qc]CR[qc]
;B[pc]CR[pc]
;W[pb]CR[pb]
;B[ob]CR[ob]
;W[qb]CR[qb]
;B[oc]CR[oc]
;W[re]CR[re]
;B[jf]CR[jf]C[Scribe [?\]: Terrible for White
]))
(;W[ld]CR[ld]C[Scribe [?\]: Running out at g13 is not useful...no meaning just a few points
Bodo212 [13k\]: L 16
bourrette [?\]: L17?
patanjali0 [6k\]: l16
ST0NE [14k\]: n16
glint [11k?\]: L17
maruseru [?\]: l16
cookbook [10k\]: mei qi xia
Spon [20k?\]: k17
bourrette [?\]: sorry, L16
gaius [13k\]: N17 
kole [5k\]: yes
Uvas [-\]: yes
isshoni [15k\]: yes
DnF [9k\]: yes
Miro [?\]: yes
okhna [15k\]: yes but fast
spingle [9k\]: yeah
patanjali0 [6k\]: very clear
heinzd [6k\]: very much so, yes
Bodo212 [13k\]: yes clear
ST0NE [14k\]: yes
Murugandi [14k\]: its fine ^^
dnaigo [9k?\]: yes
arehucas [9k\]: yes
Ranmakun1 [-\]: its ok
ahau [?\]: no problem
wrong [1d?\]: clear as a blue sky^^
maruseru [?\]: no
LastRonin [23k\]: its fine
Miro [?\]: no
arehucas [9k\]: no
ST0NE [14k\]: no
Bardock [5k\]: no
Wook [-\]: no
patanjali0 [6k\]: no perfect
Murugandi [14k\]: lol
Bodo212 [13k\]: no -ok
ahau [?\]: fine
Klops [12k\]: better than my chinese
Jakobicek [16k\]: no
spingle [9k\]: no you are not too fast ;)
Murugandi [14k\]: hehe
LastRonin [23k\]: ^^
cookbook [10k\]: lolz
glint [11k?\]: U R doing fine Guo :)
]
(;B[kd]CR[kd]C[murky [?\]: n16
]
(;W[kc]CR[kc]
;B[ke]CR[ke]
(;W[jc]CR[jc]
;B[md]CR[md])
(;W[lb]CR[lb]C[Scribe [?\]: When the ladder is good for Black the warikomi of L16 works
maruseru [?\]: yes
]
;B[jc]CR[jc]
;W[mc]CR[mc]
;B[id]CR[id]C[Scribe [?\]: White gets to choose which ladder might arise
Uvas [-\]: nice
kjp [6k\]: short ladder
ahau [?\]: black
wrong [1d?\]: what if W attacks the left?
]))
(;W[ke]CR[ke]
;B[kc]CR[kc]TR[je][le]C[dnaigo [9k?\]: i see
maruseru [?\]: but both ladders have to be good for warikomi, right?
]
;W[md]CR[md]
;B[jc]CR[jc]
;W[id]CR[id]
;B[hc]CR[hc]TR[je][le]C[Scribe [?\]: White needs to block (L15) if the ladders are good for Black
Scribe [?\]: After the extension of Black L17, White has tremedously strong outside shape
Bodo212 [13k\]: thx !!!
]))
(;B[kc]CR[kc]
;W[kd]CR[kd]C[bourrette [?\]: no cutting points
Scribe [?\]: If the ladders are not good for Black, Black must nobi at L17
Grimley [9k\]: 2 cutting points
kjp [6k\]: more cutting points
zviratko [12k?\]: no w weakness
Jakobicek [16k\]: yes
jantiff [6k?\]: w's shape
]
;B[mc]CR[mc]
;W[md]TR[jd][kd][ld][md]C[wrong [1d?\]: no cutting points
])))
(;B[gg]CR[gg]))
(;B[bf]CR[bf]
;W[ci]CR[ci]
;B[bc]CR[bc]
;W[bb]CR[bb]
;B[ab]CR[ab]
(;W[bd]CR[bd]
;B[ad]CR[ad])
(;W[cb]CR[cb]
;B[bd]CR[bd]
;W[gc]CR[gc]
;B[ae]CR[ae]
;W[gg]CR[gg]C[wrong [1d?\]: he he, i wanted to ask about the ko before this var^^
Slarty [2k\]: lol
])))
(;B[ch]CR[ch]
(;W[gb]CR[gb])
(;W[ge]CR[ge]
;B[fc]CR[fc]
;W[fb]CR[fb]
;B[gb]CR[gb]
;W[eb]CR[eb]
;B[hd]CR[hd]
;W[he]CR[he])))
(;B[ef]CR[ef]C[Scribe [?\]: Black chose the wrong joseki here...should have avoided the taisha
]
;W[fd]CR[fd]
;B[fe]CR[fe]
;W[ge]CR[ge]
;B[ed]CR[ed]
;W[cc]CR[cc]
;B[ee]CR[ee]
;W[gd]CR[gd]C[Scribe [?\]: very old sequence
]
;B[ci]CR[ci]C[dnaigo [9k?\]: i think white still advantage
Scribe [?\]: locally white is better, white got the corner
futuresai [11k?\]: does work a move like C6?
Scribe [?\]: still a joseki to avoid complications of taisha
]))
(;W[de]CR[de]C[tarragone [14k\]: taisha = good
]
;B[ce]CR[ce]C[Scribe [?\]: Very easy path for white to play
]
;W[df]CR[df]
;B[cg]CR[cg]
;W[kq]CR[kq]C[dnaigo [9k?\]: still even
Scribe [?\]: Black position is not concentrated on one side of the Board
wrong [1d?\]: B needs sente to get to L3-k3 first
]))
(;B[fq]CR[fq]C[cookbook [10k\]: but W L16 better?
kalim [13k\]: still very open
]))