(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[2400]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[guojuan]PB[guojuan]WR[5p]BR[5p]DT[2005-02-13]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[tarragone [14k\]: :-)
Uvas [-\]: hi
okhna [15k\]: hi
zviratko [12k?\]: hi
Domme [11k\]: hi
Hennuz [9k?\]: hi
Q [7k\]: hi again :)
jantiff [6k?\]: yes :)
Jenny12yrs [13k\]: hi-hi
Scribe [?\]: Basic Shapes 
]
;B[qc]CR[qc]C[agui [7k\]: Hello
patanjali0 [6k\]: yes
Uvas [-\]: safe
Scribe [?\]: 3x3 takes the corner immediately without leaving any aji
kjp [6k\]: is 3-3 or 4-4 sansan?
Uvas [-\]: 33
wrong [1d?\]: he he, my first problem was to kill W 2-2 here :)
patanjali0 [6k\]: 3-3 =san san
]
(;W[pd]CR[pd]C[dnaigo [9k?\]: yes
maruseru [?\]: yes
glint [11k?\]: yes
gertzu [16k\]: y
GrandYan [7k\]: Yes.
Hennuz [9k?\]: yes
tmc [7k?\]: yes
]
;B[qd]CR[qd]
(;W[pe]CR[pe]C[Grimley [9k\]: dont make it more difficult than it is;)
]
(;B[ob]CR[ob]
;W[md]CR[md]
;B[rf]CR[rf]C[Brutha [8k\]: does it spell san san or sansan?
]
;W[ph]CR[ph]C[guojuan [5p\]: one of the josekis
Hu [12k\]: Both, Brutha.
Grimley [9k\]: san just means three
])
(;B[pc]CR[pc]
;W[nd]CR[nd]C[spingle [9k\]: i believe san is the number 3
]
;B[oc]CR[oc]
;W[mf]CR[mf]C[maruseru [?\]: also joseki
GrandYan [7k\]: Weird joseki....
Scribe [?\]: Also joseki
]))
(;W[pf]CR[pf]C[patanjali0 [6k\]: not too fast
Zetsumei [4d\]: :)
]
(;B[od]CR[od]
;W[oe]CR[oe]
;B[oc]CR[oc])
(;B[pe]CR[pe]C[cookbook [10k\]: no
]
;W[oe]CR[oe]C[maruseru [?\]: no
krneki [9k\]: no
zviratko [12k?\]: no
okhna [15k\]: no
]
;B[qe]CR[qe]C[kole [5k\]: no
]
(;W[of]CR[of])
(;W[mf]CR[mf])
(;W[oh]CR[oh]))))
(;W[pf]CR[pf]
(;B[nc]CR[nc]C[Santa [6k\]: language lessons ;-)
maruseru [?\]: OBstacle
]
;W[qj]CR[qj]C[maruseru [?\]: also joseki
gogy [9k\]: o14
Santa [6k\]: obstacle
Scribe [?\]: ob-sta-cle accent on cle
Hu [12k\]: Emphasis on "OB"
kalim [13k\]: ;0
hansb [2k?\]: thta is Dutch pronounciation
wrong [1d?\]: ob's tuckle :)
Scribe [?\]: ob4sta5cle5
cookbook [10k\]: lol
]
;B[qh]CR[qh]LB[qd:A][ph:B]TR[pf][qj]C[gaius [13k\]: tsuke?
tmc [7k?\]: q12
agui [7k\]: Q12
cookbook [10k\]: Q12 ?
Repacse [8k\]: Q12 ?
maruseru [?\]: q12,since w is playing for influence
ratata [4k\]: r16
Codexus [12k?\]: q12
Zetsumei [4d\]: q12
pugh [15k\]: r16
apitoo [4k\]: r16
postmanpat [9k?\]: q11
EnliBikal [10k\]: R14 r S14 
tarragone [14k\]: r13
jantiff [6k?\]: Q12 is the classic idea, maybe press the corner first ?
cookbook [10k\]: S14 ?
murky [?\]: exchange
maruseru [?\]: so the invasion at r12 wasn't good to begin with?
apitoo [4k\]: if r8/q4 were there w chose wrong joseki?
Scribe [?\]: White plays r16 if white stone at r10 not important
Scribe [?\]: if connection is important, white must play q12
Domme [11k\]: -_-
]
(;W[ph]CR[ph]C[abbadan [12k?\]: B
zee [9k\]: Q12 to connect W 2 stones
postmanpat [9k?\]: settle
goglu [-\]: separate black
]
(;B[qg]CR[qg]C[Scribe [?\]: White connects her two stones
Scribe [?\]: with q12
]
;W[pg]CR[pg]C[Repacse [8k\]: but R10 was also too close
]
;B[qf]CR[qf]C[Uvas [-\]: big corner
Repacse [8k\]: if b answers its harder to connect
]
(;W[qi]CR[qi]
;B[pe]CR[pe])
(;W[oj]CR[oj]))
(;B[pg]CR[pg]C[Scribe [?\]: Black escapes to the corner
kjp [6k\]: here there is 2 ladders
Uvas [-\]: yes
maruseru [?\]: yes
playm8 [7k?\]: yes
cookbook [10k\]: yes
ST0NE [14k\]: yes
]
(;W[og]CR[og]C[Jenny12yrs [13k\]: eys
]
;B[qg]CR[qg]
;W[pi]CR[pi]
;B[qf]CR[qf]C[zee [9k\]: very good for B
])
(;W[qg]CR[qg]
;B[og]CR[og]
;W[rh]CR[rh]
;B[qf]CR[qf]
;W[qi]CR[qi]
;B[pe]CR[pe]
;W[rf]CR[rf]
;B[of]CR[of]TR[nc]C[playm8 [7k?\]: agreed
kjp [6k\]: y
kole [5k\]: too close
Uvas [-\]: overconcentrated
Scribe [?\]: black is over concentrated
gaius [13k\]: r15?
playm8 [7k?\]: too much strength?
zviratko [12k?\]: overconcentration
GrandYan [7k\]: Overconcentrated
apitoo [4k\]: overconc
Repacse [8k\]: korigatachi
goglu [-\]: overconcentrated
hansb [2k?\]: overconcentrated
wrong [1d?\]: few points per stone :)
])))
(;W[qd]CR[qd]C[Scribe [?\]: very clever move
Ubiquity [?\]: leaning attack
glint [11k?\]: probe?
agui [7k\]: to create some aji
jantiff [6k?\]: separate from the corner
maruseru [?\]: half of the corner
hansb [2k?\]: play forcing moves
patanjali0 [6k\]: breaks coinnection for b
bourrette [?\]: kikashi to avoid teh connection
patanjali0 [6k\]: dutch is obSTAkel
]
(;B[pc]CR[pc]C[GrandYan [7k\]: White seprates Black?
nightrider [23k\]: yes very
]
;W[ph]CR[ph]
;B[qg]CR[qg]C[Scribe [?\]: Black cannot connect back to corner now
]
;W[pg]CR[pg]
;B[qf]CR[qf]
;W[qe]CR[qe]C[Santa [6k\]: clever
])
(;B[pd]CR[pd]
;W[qe]CR[qe]
(;B[rc]CR[rc]C[Santa [6k\]: ok
maruseru [?\]: yes
cookbook [10k\]: yeah
gertzu [16k\]: y
playm8 [7k?\]: yes
tmc [7k?\]: yes
agui [7k\]: yes very clear
GrandYan [7k\]: Clear.
]
;W[ph]CR[ph]C[GrandYan [7k\]: meaning of R16 is to stop Blkack from connecting to his corner...
jantiff [6k?\]: so black may jump and leave the corner ?
Ives08 [7k\]: pwoer
Bodo212 [13k\]: clear
abbadan [12k?\]: yes
])
(;B[oh]CR[oh]TR[qj]C[Santa [6k\]: ok
playm8 [7k?\]: ok
cookbook [10k\]: noted
Bodo212 [13k\]: thanks very much
patanjali0 [6k\]: ok
agui [7k\]: ok
]
;W[rc]CR[rc]
;B[pc]CR[pc]LB[qd:A]C[Grimley [9k\]: dont put glass stones on your screen, your screen get dameged and we wont see them
GrandYan [7k\]: Very
patanjali0 [6k\]: yes
Bodo212 [13k\]: clear
krneki [9k\]: yes
smuin [?\]: clear
tmc [7k?\]: yes
postmanpat [9k?\]: yes
]
;W[rb]CR[rb]TR[qj][qm][pp]C[Scribe [?\]: White alive in corner in spite of Black's 3x3 play
]
;AB[qm][pp]LB[ph:A]C[Grimley [9k\]: yes
maruseru [?\]: yes
Bodo212 [13k\]: ok
agui [7k\]: yes
ahau [?\]: yes
maruseru [?\]: :)
]))
(;B[oh]CR[oh])))
(;B[oc]CR[oc])))