(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1650]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[jujo]PB[jujo]WR[9p]BR[9p]DT[2005-02-20]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]
;B[pd]CR[pd]C[wrong [1d?\]: wow, great
LastRonin [23k\]: great ^^
Koreangrl8 [19k\]: ^ _^
kieran [13k\]: do we have a scribe?
wrong [1d?\]: 'm glad about that... 'cause they'rethe same blood, same people
rohff2813 [7k\]: scribe doesn't here.?
kieran [13k\]: title match 3rd game
fab [2d\]: white : Lee ChangHo 
kieran [13k\]: 1st and 2nd game won by holder
fab [2d\]: Black : Choi CheolHan
]
;W[dp]CR[dp]
;B[pq]CR[pq]
;W[dd]CR[dd]
;B[fq]CR[fq]C[kieran [13k\]: Choi CheolHan won 3-0 yesterday
]
(;W[hq]CR[hq]
;B[qo]CR[qo]C[Polosh [10k\]: is F4 instead of L3 good?
hansb [2k?\]: What about F4?
]
(;W[kq]CR[kq]C[Javaness [6k\]: oh
catweazle [11k\]: black shimar at r5 leaves white with several options
DrGoPlayer [5k\]: w had several choices here.  Lee's style\\
ipp [2k\]: Is it too slow?
]
(;B[cq]CR[cq]C[blue88 [17k\]: f17 doesnt use the wall#
haka [-\]: but white have a good influence to the center? 
]
(;W[dq]CR[dq]C[wrong [1d?\]: but B ends in gote here I think
]
;B[cp]CR[cp]
;W[do]CR[do]
;B[dr]CR[dr]
;W[er]CR[er]
;B[cr]CR[cr]
;W[eq]CR[eq]
;B[cn]CR[cn]C[haka [-\]: f4?
catweazle [11k\]: They played a very calm joseki here.
keisuke [5d\]: this is the most usual way to play 
Uvas [-\]: e7
SymBiosiS [2k\]: O17 ?
kalim [13k\]: f4
Polosh [10k\]: K10
tsuchi [7k\]: Q17
agui [7k\]: F4
DrGoPlayer [5k\]: e7
kirschi [18k\]: e7
fint [?\]: o17
blue88 [17k\]: d7
Edge [11k\]: O17
Ordiac [10k\]: r15
haka [-\]: f4 = good shape
hansb [2k?\]: O17
borsuk [10k\]: e7
jim [7d\]: K17
isshoni [14k\]: o17?
cookbook [10k?\]: D6 
au2 [2k\]: E7
TonyTiger [5k\]: O17 
Stuart [14k\]: o17
ST0NE [14k\]: e7
jantiff [6k?\]: R11 or O17
valerian [2d?\]: r15
miii [?\]: c5
R2D2 [1k\]: r14
zonepress [6k\]: O3
goglu [-\]: O17 looks natural
jahtobi [7k\]: E7
bonobo03 [8k?\]: d6
Uvas [-\]: e7
Edge [11k\]: open side --> o17
wrong [1d?\]: E7 is better than f4
catweazle [11k\]: If you put one more move it is impatient.  White already has territory here.
wrong [1d?\]: it means B opponent is well prepared for W F17
]
(;W[nc]CR[nc]
(;B[qf]CR[qf]C[wrong [1d?\]: so better to avoid f17
kgsPlus [3d?\]: black will not play J17?
]
;W[pb]CR[pb]
;B[qc]CR[qc]
;W[kc]CR[kc]C[kieran [13k\]: C14 
wjzz [9k\]: q10 
Harriman [3k\]: q10
Chubby [?\]: q10
toktok [?\]: c14
haka [-\]: q10
catweazle [11k\]: c14
tsuchi [7k\]: C14 
Uvas [-\]: f17
johnny [10k\]: Black f17
Edge [11k\]: C14
Polosh [10k\]: K10
hansb [2k?\]: C14
Kezaar [21k\]: q10
blue88 [17k\]: c14
Oranje [6k\]: f17
amigo [15k\]: n3
Oban [5k\]: N3
flogo [3k\]: D6  ?
ST0NE [14k\]: c14
miii [?\]: Q10
scraper [14k\]: n3
seidelin [8k\]: attack white corner
aabababa [4k\]: n3
glint [11k?\]: Q10
tmc [7k?\]: d14
Polosh [10k\]: K10
goyo [?\]: c14
SymBiosiS [2k\]: N3 ?
edlee [10k\]: Is B C14 bigger than Q10 here ?
]
(;B[cf]CR[cf]C[Chubby [?\]: f16
user [3k\]: maybe d14 or n3?
Scribe [?\]: c14 correct direction of play
]
;W[fd]CR[fd]
;B[bd]CR[bd]
;W[cc]CR[cc]
;B[dh]CR[dh]
(;W[em]CR[em]C[Scribe [?\]: yes d12 not c12 thank you :)
wrong [1d?\]: welcome
Scribe [?\]: white e7 is almost an "only move"
Chubby [?\]: d8 for black ?
]
;B[mq]CR[mq]
;W[ne]CR[ne]C[Scribe [?\]: game seems to favor black slightly (before o15 move)
glint [11k?\]: Uvas, see the move tree below this, top line is the game
isshoni [14k\]: why not B r10 instead of o15?
]
(;B[lo]CR[lo]
(;W[qp]CR[qp]C[Chubby [?\]: ??? what a move !!
Jonii [7k\]: looks funny ^^
Ezgate [19k\]: :p
Nikos [19k\]: yes
wrong [1d?\]: he he, this hamete?
goglu [-\]: probe
gaius [13k\]: probe?
zzy [?\]: still aji
]
;B[rp]CR[rp]
;W[pj]CR[pj]
;B[jp]CR[jp]C[rbsales [19k\]: why not bO4?
]
;W[jq]CR[jq]C[kalim [13k\]: yea
Javaness [6k\]: black O4 ?
]
;B[pl]CR[pl]C[Grimley [9k\]: huh
wrong [1d?\]: O14 maybe?
wrong [1d?\]: he mant
]
;W[po]CR[po]C[DangoMouse [-\]: did you mean Q4?
rbsales [19k\]: q4
]
(;B[qn]CR[qn]
;W[qq]CR[qq]
;B[pp]CR[pp]
;W[rq]CR[rq]C[wrong [1d?\]: those who don't have sound, restart client
]
;B[ro]CR[ro]C[kimba [7k\]: no sound?
]
(;W[pr]CR[pr]C[gnicker [?\]: thx
Polosh [10k\]: ok
]
;B[or]CR[or]
;W[qs]CR[qs]C[Scribe [?\]: white corner lives
]
;B[np]CR[np]C[Uvas [-\]: yes
Scribe [?\]: yes
scraper [14k\]: eyp
TonyTiger [5k\]: yes
zviratko [12k?\]: yes
jarl [11k\]: yes
WPE [2d\]: yes
ST0NE [14k\]: yes
]
;W[rr]CR[rr]C[rince [13k?\]: yes
tmc [7k?\]: yes
krneki [9k\]: yes
jbb [17k\]: fine
okhna [15k?\]: crystal clear
Nikos [19k\]: ya
ibo2go [17k\]: fine
isshoni [14k\]: yes, perfectly
akew [26k\]: yes
cookbook [10k?\]: yes
Polosh [10k\]: yes
seidelin [8k\]: lol
]
(;B[ip]CR[ip]
;W[iq]CR[iq])
(;B[ph]CR[ph]C[kgsPlus [3d?\]: what if white Q5 not S4?
]))
(;W[qh]CR[qh]C[haka [-\]: what about q5?
]
;B[of]CR[of]C[haka [-\]: like kgsplus said 
]
;W[pr]CR[pr]
;B[or]CR[or]
;W[qs]CR[qs]
;B[np]CR[np]C[kgsPlus [3d?\]: sorry black i meant
]
;W[rr]CR[rr]C[cookbook [10k?\]: lesson starts so early?
]
;B[ip]CR[ip]
;W[iq]CR[iq]C[swilks [6k\]: doew white have to o4?
Polosh [10k\]: oh je viens
MysticoN [22k\]: R8  ..  ?
MysticoN [22k\]: white
swilks [6k\]: seems like able to kill corner if t2?
Scribe [?\]: white leads in territory
Scribe [?\]: unless black can attack white r12 and q10, game will be hard for black
oeillet [?\]: if B t2 then W t3 and W has 2 eyes
]
;B[nk]CR[nk]C[manakem10 [-\]: preparing for the lesson?
wrong [1d?\]: B likes to play safe and attack later, Yi Changho style
catweazle [11k\]: how would b p10 instead of o9 work?
atman [5k\]: which move caused black being behind?
wrong [1d?\]: right?
Scribe [?\]: white does not want to make life on the right....will be too easy for black in attacking white
]
(;W[nj]CR[nj]
;B[mj]CR[mj]
;W[ni]CR[ni]
;B[mi]CR[mi]
;W[ok]CR[ok]
;B[ol]CR[ol]
;W[mk]CR[mk]
;B[nl]CR[nl]
;W[mh]CR[mh]C[Slarty [2k\]: read it out later
nrgdw [5k\]: cut
]
(;B[lh]CR[lh]C[jahtobi [7k\]: i still dont understand why bl has to play O4 
]
(;W[li]CR[li]C[Oranje [6k\]: if either player wins this game they win the match
glint [11k?\]: decisive point?
]
;B[lj]CR[lj]
;W[ki]CR[ki]C[glint [11k?\]: I think so ☺
]
(;B[mg]CR[mg]
;W[nh]CR[nh]
;B[kh]CR[kh]
;W[ji]CR[ji]
;B[lk]CR[lk]
;W[ng]CR[ng]C[oeillet [?\]: which game is this ?
Scribe [?\]: black o14 is too easy for white
]
(;B[gd]CR[gd]C[glint [11k?\]: we can hear u
cookbook [10k?\]: hello
KCGoPlayer [14k\]: I hear you
seidelin [8k\]: hi
KOCMOC [11k?\]: we hear
edlee [10k\]: Jujo says this is just a test.
KCGoPlayer [14k\]: hello
ibo2go [17k\]: yes i hear you well
Ezgate [19k\]: i hear
Donseb [30k?\]: YEs I hear you
cookbook [10k?\]: yes
ChoK [-\]: yes
Ezgate [19k\]: yes
ibo2go [17k\]: great
edlee [10k\]: The sound is OK.
KOCMOC [11k?\]: test is OK
glint [11k?\]: coming in loud and clear jujo ☺
Ezgate [19k\]: ok !
cookbook [10k?\]: ok
cookbook [10k?\]: thanks
edlee [10k\]: This is only a test. The lecture will start in 35 mins.
rbsales [19k\]: how can i listen??
rbsales [19k\]: its written: no audio
rbsales [19k\]: hi anyone?
Donseb [30k?\]: It'll change when the lesson begin
rbsales [19k\]: oh
rbsales [19k\]: tks
Harriman [3k\]: in 30 mins or so?
Donseb [30k?\]: yep
Harriman [3k\]: thx
goglu [-\]: Game:  Lee Changho (white)  vs  Choi Cheolhan (black)
golawyer [?\]: hi
mingjiu [7p\]: good morning :)
Stav [7k\]: good morning!
johnny [10k\]: this is so cool
Jonii [7k\]: This will start after 5min?
mingjiu [7p\]: yes
Jonii [7k\]: ^^
MysticoN [22k\]: woho
Jonii [7k\]: Can't wait ^^
mingjiu [7p\]: sorry
Jonii [7k\]: I thought that there are 9p:s just in Hikaru no Go ^^
haka [-\]: "sai"
MysticoN [22k\]: Its actually a title that gives you 10p status  =)
JGL [15k\]: ever look at the actual games in the show?
MysticoN [22k\]: 10 dan
kieran [13k\]: wow, we have two high pros in attendance
Javaness [6k\]: hello
Jonii [7k\]: jyudan
MysticoN [22k\]: yes
MysticoN [22k\]: jyudan
JGL [15k\]: nijudan
MysticoN [22k\]: huh
Jonii [7k\]: ^^
Jonii [7k\]: 20d
Koreangrl8 [19k\]: no sound?
blue88 [17k\]: not yet
Jonii [7k\]: There will be, when jujo will talk to us
Koreangrl8 [19k\]: ok.just wondering
MysticoN [22k\]: haha maybe they have to make more then 10 dan if a player is going to become superior against the rest of the 9p
blue88 [17k\]: thats what the titles are for...
wrong [1d?\]: there should be 10d rank for top world pros
MysticoN [22k\]: yes
MysticoN [22k\]: I know
MysticoN [22k\]: hello
MysticoN [22k\]: :_D
haka [-\]: hi
hansb [2k?\]: hi
Xris [-\]: hi
Uvas [-\]: hello
playm8 [6k?\]: hello
ST0NE [14k\]: hello
JGL [15k\]: hello
kalim [13k\]: hello
cookbook [10k?\]: hi
Donseb [30k?\]: Hi
kirschi [18k\]: hi
Koreangrl8 [19k\]: good morning
ST0NE [14k\]: yes
crabpeople [12k\]: hello
Kezaar [21k\]: hello
zigor [12k\]: hello
kieran [13k\]: yes
Ezgate [19k\]: hello
wrong [1d?\]: yes
MysticoN [22k\]: yes
SymBiosiS [2k\]: yes
jbb [17k\]: hello, hear u well
LastRonin [23k\]: hi
Spon [19k?\]: yes
hansb [2k?\]: loud and clear
isshoni [14k\]: hello
DrGoPlayer [5k\]: yes
seidelin [8k\]: fine
Javaness [6k\]: <hi>
Warlock [13k\]: HELLO
funi [?\]: hi
DrGoPlayer [5k\]: ne hao
wrong [1d?\]: Ni Hao sensei
kalim [13k\]: load and clear
au2 [2k\]: good morning Jujo
ligo [8k\]: hi
Uvas [-\]: very clear
Koreangrl8 [19k\]: ^ -^
zigor [12k\]: ritten Kusu ?
zigor [12k\]: written
fab [2d\]: *kuksu*
wrong [1d?\]: Kuksu?
zigor [12k\]: thx
Koreangrl8 [19k\]: whoa....
hillmonkey [15k\]: did anyone else lose audio?
SymBiosiS [2k\]: no
barty [18k\]: no
Bardock [5k\]: no
isshoni [14k\]: no
wrong [1d?\]: no
izgonjes [11k\]: no
hillmonkey [15k\]: rats
glint [11k?\]: hill, restart the client
wrong [1d?\]: it might be network error, restart the client
hillmonkey [15k\]: thx
Bardock [5k\]: exit and reenter hillmonkey
okhna [15k?\]: re-open game
Hu [12k\]: Fuseki is hardest, so thank you for the help with the opening!
Chubby [?\]: what about g17 instead ?
okhna [15k?\]: cutable
ligo [8k\]: thanks for good lecture 
Uvas [-\]: thank you
playm8 [6k?\]: thx
olczyk [16k\]: thank you
cookbook [10k?\]: thanks
seif [7k?\]: thank you
jim [7d\]: thank you
flogo [3k\]: thx
Spraypaint [11k\]: Thank you
Ruutana [23k\]: Thank you
amigo [15k\]: thx
phan [24k?\]: thanks
haka [-\]: thanks
RedPrince [-\]: thanks a lot!
silver2k4 [22k?\]: thanks
mandy [15k?\]: thanks
rakdver [14k\]: thank you
Aristocles [11k\]: thank you
glint [11k?\]: thank you jujo & scribe
pilchard [8k?\]: thanks
tsuchi [7k\]: thank you ^^
kabu [24k?\]: thx
Oranje [6k\]: thanks
JGL [15k\]: thanks
crabpeople [12k\]: thx
ST0NE [14k\]: thanks
tmc [7k?\]: thanks
kieran [13k\]: many thanks jujo
isshoni [14k\]: thank you
rince [13k?\]: thx a lot great lesson
au2 [2k\]: thank you Jujo
ihgo [7k\]: thank you
bonobo03 [8k?\]: thank you very much
shalimar1 [14k\]: thanks Jujo!
Nikos [19k\]: very welcome
DrizztDo [8k?\]: thx
wrong [1d?\]: Thank You jujo shi-fu
elicoidal [12k?\]: thx
Gatu [22k\]: thanks :)
jkk [17k\]: thanks
Q [-\]: good lesson, thanks
Chubby [?\]: tks to u, jijo !
Slarty [2k\]: thank you jujo and ing foundation!
DangoMouse [-\]: thanks
ibo2go [17k\]: thank you
bluesmurf [-\]: Thankyou very much
Scribe [?\]: Thanks to the Ing Foundation and for providing Jujo the oppotunity to teach here
Kikuchyo [?\]: thx to Ing Foundation and thx jujo.
JanMa [25k?\]: thx
scraper [14k\]: thank you
Kezaar [21k\]: Thank you very much :)
Excell2 [28k?\]: thanks
GuLOOM [5k\]: thank you very much
catweazle [11k\]: Thank you very much jujo
okhna [15k?\]: thank you very much
patanjali0 [6k\]: thanks for the lesson :)
gnicker [?\]: thank you very much
hansb [2k?\]: thank you jujo, very interesting
Javaness [6k\]: ((( jujo )))
MysticoN [22k\]: thank you
swilks [6k\]: thank you
gotay [12k?\]: thank you much
supaplex [2d\]: thank you
Bardock [5k\]: thx
capra [12k?\]: thank you
fredon [16k\]: thank you very much
Hu [12k\]: Thank you, jujo, and Ing Foundation
R2D2 [1k\]: thanks
KungFused [8k\]: thank you
geocaplan [1d\]: xie xie
Scribe [?\]: Thanks to catweazle
jantiff [6k?\]: thanks for teaching
goyo [?\]: thanks a lot Sir
agui [7k\]: Thank you very much
LeoX [29k?\]: thanks
au2 [2k\]: THANKS TO ING FOUNDATION
SymBiosiS [2k\]: thanks for the lesson!
smudge [12k\]: Great lecure, Jujo! Thanks!
Bonklers [4k\]: see you next time
glint [11k?\]: bye, take care
seidelin [8k\]: thank you
Bonklers [4k\]: thanks
wrong [1d?\]: and forgive us for comments not related to the game
wjzz [9k\]: who won this game?
jarl [11k\]: thank you
Ermac [9k?\]: thank you very much
Kisel [29k\]: thanks
Stav [7k\]: thank you
kalim [13k\]: Thank you!
zviratko [12k?\]: thank you
jahtobi [7k\]: thx
rbsales [19k\]: thanks
mingjiu [7p\]: thanks
izgonjes [11k\]: thx
Jonii [7k\]: ^^
Keido [15k?\]: thank you
irena [14k\]: thx
Q [-\]: thanks, bye
Kikuchyo [?\]: bye
agui [7k\]: bye for now
okhna [15k?\]: bye
au2 [2k\]: BYE
playm8 [6k?\]: cye
SymBiosiS [2k\]: bye
ST0NE [14k\]: bye
toktok [?\]: thx
Ekei [13k?\]: thx
Prodigious [15k\]: Bye.
Ermac [9k?\]: bye
swilks [6k\]: bye
Nikos [19k\]: bye
cookbook [10k?\]: bye
haka [-\]: buy thanks a lot
dagge [5k\]: thank you, bye
silver2k4 [22k?\]: bye
Bardock [5k\]: cu
guojuan [5p\]: thansk
kabu [24k?\]: bye
kalim [13k\]: bye
ibo2go [17k\]: bye
kakarinogo [?\]: thank you
tmc [7k?\]: bye
goyo [?\]: bye
gnicker [?\]: bye
Kisel [29k\]: bye
LeoX [29k?\]: bye
Kezaar [21k\]: Bye.
phan [24k?\]: bye
wrong [1d?\]: Zai Jian
mandy [15k?\]: bye
akew [26k\]: when lesson starts usually?
kalim [13k\]: cu
Jonii [7k\]: Thanks & bye
Ordiac [10k\]: doei
])
(;B[nf]CR[nf]C[wrong [1d?\]: kuksu title
gaius [13k\]: lee changho vs. choi cheolheun
tsuchi [7k\]: LeeChangho(W) vs Choi Cheolhan (B)
]
;W[lg]CR[lg]))
(;B[kj]CR[kj]
;W[jj]CR[jj]
;B[ll]CR[ll]
;W[jk]CR[jk]C[Nikos [19k\]: fight very challenge for me
]
;B[kl]CR[kl]
;W[mg]CR[mg]))
(;W[nh]CR[nh]C[Javaness [6k\]: decidind moment of the game
]
;B[ki]CR[ki]C[Scribe [?\]:  very nice shape for black in center (b L11 and friends)
Oranje [6k\]: point in the match
ligo [8k\]: point
kieran [13k\]: critical?
au2 [2k\]: situation
Scribe [?\]: critical juncture
bonobo03 [8k?\]: a tie
]))
(;B[nh]CR[nh]C[Jonii [7k\]: Actually, me neither
isshoni [14k\]: wrong: i think Yi is white
]
;W[lh]CR[lh]C[spingle [10k\]: slarty?
]
(;B[lk]CR[lk]
;W[lj]CR[lj]
;B[ml]CR[ml]
;W[li]CR[li]C[wrong [1d?\]: because of W p3
])
(;B[ki]CR[ki]
;W[li]CR[li]
;B[lj]CR[lj]
;W[kj]CR[kj]
;B[lk]CR[lk]
;W[ng]CR[ng]
;B[oh]CR[oh]
;W[og]CR[og]C[wrong [1d?\]: or O2
]
;B[pi]CR[pi]
;W[kk]CR[kk]
;B[ll]CR[ll]
;W[pg]CR[pg]
;B[qi]CR[qi]
;W[ri]CR[ri]
;B[qj]CR[qj]C[haka [-\]: nice
]
(;W[ji]CR[ji]C[wrong [1d?\]: B corner alive?
Scribe [?\]: this result does not produce enough profit for black
]
;B[rg]CR[rg])
(;W[qb]CR[qb]
;B[rg]CR[rg]
;W[rh]CR[rh]C[Scribe [?\]: white thickness more valuable
]
;B[rb]CR[rb]))))
(;W[qk]CR[qk]
;B[rg]CR[rg])))
(;B[pp]CR[pp]
;W[qn]CR[qn]C[rbsales [19k\]: i meant
]
;B[ro]CR[ro]C[rbsales [19k\]: sorry
]
;W[ql]CR[ql]C[haka [-\]: ouch :)
]
;B[qk]CR[qk]C[Oranje [6k\]: yes its fine
swilks [6k\]: fine
hansb [2k?\]: Why did black play S4 iso Q5?
pilchard [8k?\]: yes
Ezgate [19k\]: yes
glint [11k?\]: it's fine 
goyo [?\]: ok
]
;W[pk]CR[pk]C[Scribe [?\]: white play at r4 creates this aji 
Grimley [9k\]: sound is good
user [3k\]: no sound for me anymore an err... :(
]
;B[qm]CR[qm]C[TonyTiger [5k\]: yes
]
;W[rl]CR[rl]C[flogo [3k\]: no it's ok
Uvas [-\]: yes
Scribe [?\]: yes
]
;B[pm]CR[pm]
;W[rm]CR[rm]C[Uvas [-\]: turn up your volume
jarl [11k\]: its fine
Scribe [?\]: hard to split these white stones, having split, white gets solid on right
Bonklers [4k\]: good lecture, good sound
]
;B[rn]CR[rn]C[bonsai [3d?\]: use ctrl-click to mark coordinates
Grimley [9k\]: turn op your vollume
Spraypaint [11k\]: Turn up the volume
]
;W[qj]CR[qj]C[gnicker [?\]: could you speak louder?
gnicker [?\]: please
Deicide [-\]: eh
]))
(;W[jo]CR[jo]
;B[pi]CR[pi]C[Scribe [?\]: again m5 is a move that is valuable to both players
Ezgate [19k\]: :o
phan [24k?\]: huge
])
(;W[pj]CR[pj]C[wrong [1d?\]: trick-move?
]
;B[pl]CR[pl]C[Scribe [?\]: white r4 very nice move. creates aji in corner
]
;W[qp]CR[qp]C[R2D2 [1k\]: yosumiru
]
;B[po]CR[po]
;W[qq]CR[qq]
;B[pr]CR[pr]))
(;B[pi]CR[pi]C[Uvas [-\]: is this game?
Nikos [19k\]: Very intersesting but I need to get better before I understand lecture well
johnny [10k\]: isn't d12 big for both?
]
;W[lo]CR[lo]))
(;W[nq]CR[nq]C[johnny [10k\]: white c9?
]
;B[dn]CR[dn]C[flogo [3k\]: D6  ?
]
;W[en]CR[en]
;B[em]CR[em]
;W[fn]CR[fn]C[Scribe [?\]: Black c12 is almost a sente move
]
;B[fm]CR[fm]C[Polosh [10k\]: what s the difference between bD11 and D12?
glint [11k?\]: Left getting very big
Slarty [2k\]: c11 too low
Scribe [?\]: white can not respond with o3, allows black to build left side
wrong [1d?\]: d12, Scribe just mistyped
]))
(;B[fc]CR[fc]C[herwoo [18k\]: Q10 
Uvas [-\]: yay
kalim [13k\]: r11
]
;W[ec]CR[ec]C[Polosh [10k\]: tengen
]
;B[fd]CR[fd]
;W[cf]CR[cf]C[blue88 [17k\]: plays against strenght
]
;B[ic]CR[ic]C[haka [-\]: blacks stones overconcentrated?
Chubby [?\]: small 4 black
Uvas [-\]: ok
isshoni [14k\]: mm
kalim [13k\]: is r18 r11 miai?
Scribe [?\]: this is too good for white, white q18 vs black f16
])
(;B[df]CR[df]
;W[fd]CR[fd]
;B[cd]CR[cd]
;W[cc]CR[cc]
;B[ce]CR[ce]
;W[bc]CR[bc]
;B[di]CR[di]C[Scribe [?\]: d14 wrong..too easy for white to make top territory
user [3k\]: ohh okay ^^
SymBiosiS [2k\]: E7 ?
Chubby [?\]: is b17 necessary yet ?
Polosh [10k\]: aji
kakarinogo [?\]: p17 follow by o16 for b not good?
Scribe [?\]: not large black territory on left
]
;W[af]CR[af]C[Polosh [10k\]: A14
glint [11k?\]: open skirt
bonsai [3d?\]: still no headmicrophone
Scribe [?\]: black left side is still open
]))
(;B[lc]CR[lc]C[zviratko [12k?\]: forcing white into his moyo
TonyTiger [5k\]: good question :)
glint [11k?\]: no wide B extension down Right side
Scribe [?\]: jujo's question Black: why not pincer white at m17
Oranje [6k\]: O15
Hu [12k\]: Now B will have two weak groups?
wjzz [9k\]: he can get a too low position?
cookbook [10k?\]: R17
phan [24k?\]: white can ruin black's right side
Q [-\]: white plays r17 in sente?
glint [11k?\]: 3-3
haka [-\]: o15
Harriman [3k\]: better with r10 first
scsiduck [21k\]: invade corner
toktok [?\]: q14
Oranje [6k\]: O15 and press
zviratko [12k?\]: jump out
crabpeople [12k\]: san san?
Chubby [?\]: k17 ?
shalimar1 [14k\]: R19
agui [7k\]: because no stone on the right side
Harriman [3k\]: r17
Scribe [?\]: ?? allows white to pincer extension from d16 at k17
johnny [10k\]: Black f17?
blue88 [17k\]: counterpincer
kalim [13k\]: this is trick move?
flogo [3k\]: R17 is gote
Edge [11k\]: because W R14
Ordiac [10k\]: o15 seems natural
spingle [10k\]: r14?
tsuchi [7k\]: lets white make influence
MysticoN [22k\]: R14 ?
haka [-\]: o15 i think
]
;W[qc]CR[qc]
;B[pc]CR[pc]
;W[qd]CR[qd]
;B[pe]CR[pe]
;W[pb]CR[pb]
;B[ob]CR[ob]C[Oban [5k\]: symetry not good for b bcz w has sente 
]
;W[qb]CR[qb]
;B[oc]CR[oc]
;W[qf]CR[qf]C[johnny [10k\]: m17 too close
]
;B[ic]CR[ic]C[shalimar1 [14k\]: R17 of course no R19!
wrong [1d?\]: mane-go :)
Harriman [3k\]: w
TonyTiger [5k\]: whtie :)
Scribe [?\]: nearly symmetrical
cookbook [10k?\]: yes
zzy [?\]: even game
cookbook [10k?\]: white
scraper [14k\]: komi
catweazle [11k\]: white has sente
Oranje [6k\]: hoshi vs shimari
seidelin [8k\]: black good
rzhao [5k\]: b
TonyTiger [5k\]: because L3 reduces shimari :)
au2 [2k\]: w also komi
Oranje [6k\]: B better
spingle [10k\]: o17 is not dea
DnF [8k\]: looks even to me
Harriman [3k\]: right side ruined for b
jim [7d\]: black shimari better then hoshi so black is better
Kikuchyo [?\]: w better
Chubby [?\]: w 
Kikuchyo [?\]: w can mirror
SymBiosiS [2k\]: the right side has lost it'S potential?
pilchard [8k?\]: almost symmetrical
notowuri [2k\]: b lost moyo potential
Aristocles [11k\]: black a little bit ahead
Uvas [-\]: mirror
seidelin [8k\]: black have better corner...right?
DangoMouse [-\]: D16 is not well placed now
jantiff [6k?\]: i wouldn't play it as black
cookbook [10k?\]: even, but black takes 2 stones to defnd the conrner
Scribe [?\]: easy game for white, if no komi game is good for black
Scribe [?\]: white hoshi at top left vs black shimari at bottom right
wrong [1d?\]: isn't korean rule 7.5 komi???
MysticoN [22k\]: china 7.5
olczyk [16k\]: Mirror game. But Black spends two moves on LR.
cookbook [10k?\]: nope, chinese is 7.5
Scribe [?\]: at this point black has not recouped the komi and the board is getting "smaller"
Harriman [3k\]: 6.5  in Korea
wrong [1d?\]: oh, sorry, i read they're experimenting with 7.5
]))
(;W[fp]CR[fp]C[rohff2813 [7k\]: R11
valerian [2d?\]: r14 sorry:-)
wrong [1d?\]: is F4 really urgent???
goglu [-\]: slow
Truc [-\]: e7
Uvas [-\]: e7
Husserl [7k\]: D6
goyo [?\]: e7
catweazle [11k\]: F4 is too overconcentrated and small
R2D2 [1k\]: r14 or o17 ?
])
(;W[fc]CR[fc]
;B[nc]CR[nc]C[Scribe [?\]: inefficient not impatient
]
;W[nq]CR[nq]C[TonyTiger [5k\]: They played the same moves in the 3rd game?
]
(;B[oo]CR[oo]C[glint [11k?\]: ☺ cat
wrong [1d?\]: thanks weazle
Scribe [?\]: pros call moves like p5 "only move"
glint [11k?\]: moyo pivot point?
kieran [13k\]: could white play P5 before F17?
]
;W[qi]CR[qi]C[Polosh [10k\]: what about K10?
catweazle [11k\]: F17 is a good move.  If you play black will play o17 and leave white to play o3
])
(;B[qi]CR[qi]C[catweazle [11k\]: 5p is a very important move
Scribe [?\]: p5 very important move for black
]
;W[oo]CR[oo]C[Scribe [?\]: p5 is dual purpose move
cookbook [10k?\]: wow, scribe is back
glint [11k?\]: W moyo?
isshoni [14k\]: p5 is on the frontier
Polosh [10k\]: who s scribe?
catweazle [11k\]: I did my best to fill in for scribe...
catweazle [11k\]: :-)
Scribe [?\]: p5 is critical point for both white and black
wrong [1d?\]: so, here, my opponents important move is my important move too
rbsales [19k\]: tks car :)
Drimgere [7k\]: you're all scribes now?
Scribe [?\]: p5 will expand either the white or the black moyo
cookbook [10k?\]: thanks cat
rbsales [19k\]: cat*
])))
(;W[cp]CR[cp]
;B[dq]CR[dq]))
(;B[cn]CR[cn]C[Murugandi [14k\]: hm k
]
(;W[dn]CR[dn]
;B[dm]CR[dm]
;W[en]CR[en]C[Javaness [6k\]: play c4
isshoni [14k\]: c4?
okhna [15k?\]: c10
Oranje [6k\]: c5
kole [5k\]: c4
kakarinogo [?\]: c5
jantiff [6k?\]: C4 ?
Deicide [-\]: b5
borsuk [10k\]: c5
haka [-\]: c8
tmc [7k?\]: c5
Javaness [6k\]: mingjui was sick at my game yesterday ;-)
]
(;B[cq]CR[cq]
;W[co]CR[co]C[catweazle [11k\]: if black plays knight's kakari the best move for white would be this.
]
;B[dq]CR[dq]
;W[er]CR[er]
;B[eq]CR[eq]
;W[fr]CR[fr]C[cookbook [10k?\]: cool
catweazle [11k\]: if black still goes to 3-3 to take the corner,  white can start an attack on black's whole group
])
(;B[cp]CR[cp]C[WPE [2d\]: no cut
Polosh [10k\]: i don t know if we re talking about the same thing dango
]
(;W[co]CR[co]
;B[bo]CR[bo]
;W[do]CR[do]
;B[bm]CR[bm]
;W[cq]CR[cq]
;B[bp]CR[bp]
;W[em]CR[em]
;B[dl]CR[dl]
;W[fk]CR[fk]C[cookbook [10k?\]: is e7 good?
wrong [1d?\]: f3 not dead yet
catweazle [11k\]: This way is good for black.  because for black, the f3 stone still has not been killed yet
kole [5k\]: d2 ?
kakarinogo [?\]: it leave d3 open?
]
;B[dq]CR[dq]
;W[eq]CR[eq]C[DrGoPlayer [5k\]: good for b as f3 stone not dead yet
]
;B[dr]CR[dr]
;W[er]CR[er]
;B[cr]CR[cr]C[catweazle [11k\]: this cut is available for later.
DangoMouse [-\]: polosh if b cuts w just extends and eats f4
catweazle [11k\]: remember,  white holds the corner first,  so if the result means white doesn't have territory the result is good for black.
])
(;W[cq]CR[cq]C[DangoMouse [-\]: we are, ask me later
]
;B[co]CR[co]
;W[dq]CR[dq]C[catweazle [11k\]: correct move for white is going to hane here at c3,  not c5
Polosh [10k\]: fine
]
;B[cl]CR[cl]
;W[gn]CR[gn]
;B[cf]CR[cf]C[TonyTiger [5k\]: is black happy now?
catweazle [11k\]: this case is pretty even for both.  White made territory and black made a very nice shape on the left side
wrong [1d?\]: yes
flogo [3k\]: why not f17 here ?
jantiff [6k?\]: yes, black sente
wrong [1d?\]: F17 too far from Q16
]))
(;B[co]CR[co]C[catweazle [11k\]: c4 is the best move in this case.
]
;W[cp]CR[cp]C[Drimgere [7k\]: ;-)
catweazle [11k\]: if c5,  white can block here and the corner is beautiful for white
Polosh [10k\]: but can cut
]))
(;W[fp]CR[fp]C[catweazle [11k\]: after white plays the two space extension black also has choices
]
;B[gp]CR[gp]
;W[gq]CR[gq]
;B[cp]CR[cp]
;W[eq]CR[eq]
;B[cq]CR[cq]C[catweazle [11k\]: thsi is not good enough for white
Polosh [10k\]: but before C6
catweazle [11k\]: now the white two space extension is too slow
wrong [1d?\]: here L3 looks slow
])))
(;W[cn]CR[cn])
(;W[nc]CR[nc]))
(;W[cn]CR[cn]
;B[jp]CR[jp]C[kieran [13k\]: opening was identical to first match game
]
;W[qn]CR[qn]
(;B[po]CR[po]
;W[rp]CR[rp])
(;B[fc]CR[fc]
;W[hc]CR[hc]
;B[po]CR[po])))