(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1200]OT[24/360 Canadian] PW[mingjiu]PB[mingjiu]WR[7p]BR[7p]DT[2005-02-20]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[Uvas [-\]: hello ST0NE [14k\]: hello playm8 [6k?\]: hello silver2k4 [22k?\]: hello olczyk [16k\]: hi mingyaod [11k\]: hello krneki [9k\]: hello Hu [12k\]: Hello and THank you. scraper [14k\]: hi JanMa [25k?\]: hi Chubby [?\]: hi there ;o) ! Javaness [6k\]: hi mingjiu ! hansb [2k?\]: hello jarl [11k\]: laoshi hao hugogogo [6k\]: hi ratata [4k\]: hi MysticoN [22k\]: hello :D KungFused [8k\]: hi patanjali0 [6k\]: hi rakdver [14k\]: hi spingle [10k\]: funny, i am waiting for you ;) RedPrince [-\]: hi! Chubby [?\]: hen hao ;o) mandy [15k?\]: hi Scribe [?\]: Ni Hao Mingjiu! jantiff [6k?\]: hi :) wrong [1d?\]: Ni hao mingjiu shi-fu agui [7k\]: Hello Uvas [-\]: good game kalim [13k\]: hello fredon [16k\]: hi KOCMOC [11k?\]: sound is perfect hansb [2k?\]: yes au2 [2k\]: Yes MysticoN [22k\]: yes mingyaod [11k\]: yes jarl [11k\]: yes glint [11k?\]: yes... wrong [1d?\]: or homework? scraper [14k\]: yes Uvas [-\]: o4r? goglu [-\]: sure atman [5k\]: yes please! ST0NE [14k\]: yes fredon [16k\]: yes agui [7k\]: yes sure Uvas [-\]: or? patanjali0 [6k\]: sure Chubby [?\]: lol Scribe [?\]: good to hear that you are doing well Chubby Javaness [6k\]: as long as it's not mine mandy [15k?\]: yes bungee [23k\]: :-) spingle [10k\]: whats the alternative? seidelin [8k\]: well...i guess Chubby [?\]: huhu... Scribe [?\]: Homework from last week first patanjali0 [6k\]: ok agui [7k\]: ok rakdver [14k\]: yes Aristocles [11k\]: ok ST0NE [14k\]: ok Nikos [19k\]: what homework cookbook [10k?\]: ok Grimley [9k\]: mistakes are cool scraper [14k\]: ok Bardock [5k\]: yes valerian [2d?\]: nice Grimley [9k\]: more joseki mistakes:) glint [11k?\]: *slaps* Nikos ] ;B[dp]CR[dp]C[Nikos [19k\]: a is solid Stav [7k\]: got it ^^ ] ;W[pd]CR[pd] ;B[dc]CR[dc] ;W[qp]CR[qp] ;B[op]CR[op] ;W[mq]CR[mq] ;B[qq]CR[qq] ;W[rq]CR[rq] ;B[pq]CR[pq] ;W[ro]CR[ro] (;B[no]CR[no] ;W[pn]CR[pn]C[glint [11k?\]: what rank were the last game players? Bonklers [4k\]: same Chubby [?\]: m4? Chubby [?\]: oki... ] ;B[lp]CR[lp]C[Uvas [-\]: m4 ] ;W[kq]CR[kq] ;B[lq]CR[lq]C[Scribe [?\]: white j4 possible if left lower corner is white ] ;W[lr]CR[lr]C[Chubby [?\]: yes Chubby [?\]: L4 Jonii [7k\]: w nice? kgsPlus [3d?\]: black 2 ponnuki Oranje [6k\]: so good for w Chubby [?\]: W much better ;o) kyrilin [18k\]: good for w ] (;B[mp]CR[mp]TR[mq]C[Bonklers [4k\]: yes swilks [6k\]: h3 Nikos [19k\]: o3 jantiff [6k?\]: tenuki Deicide [-\]: k2 polkij [?\]: f3 Brutha [8k\]: o2 Jonii [7k\]: N2? Uvas [-\]: j4 Bonklers [4k\]: k2? kyrilin [18k\]: o3? Chubby [?\]: l2 Chubby [?\]: L2 jahtobi [7k\]: F3 scraper [14k\]: n2 goglu [-\]: k2 goyo [?\]: k2 wrong [1d?\]: O2 not good? Scribe [?\]: joseki move Chubby [?\]: how about L4 instead wrong [1d?\]: so, n2 is the only left wrong [1d?\]: but slow too Chubby [?\]: sorry... jarl [11k\]: l2 heavy Bonklers [4k\]: specify move number Jonii [7k\]: Hmm ] (;W[jr]CR[jr] ;B[mr]CR[mr]C[glint [11k?\]: F3 hansb [2k?\]: F3 Grimley [9k\]: n1 Nikos [19k\]: g4 ] ;W[fq]CR[fq]LB[hq:A][lr:B]TR[jr]C[ST0NE [14k\]: f3 braincrash [?\]: too far nutcase [1k\]: N1 1st Scribe [?\]: white f3 not a nice shape Grimley [9k\]: n1 exchange Scribe [?\]: better to have white k2 stone at h3 Jonii [7k\]: Umm Scribe [?\]: remember treat n3 and m2 lightly Nikos [19k\]: a solid ]) (;W[kr]CR[kr]C[Scribe [?\]: L2 is too slow, no eye shape Chubby [?\]: no, before ]) (;W[nr]CR[nr]C[Chubby [?\]: of N4 ] ;B[nq]CR[nq] ;W[mr]CR[mr]C[Scribe [?\]: again black can not cut at n2 ] (;B[or]CR[or]C[spingle [10k\]: w hasppy Chubby [?\]: nice 4 w wrong [1d?\]: both overconcentrated Nikos [19k\]: godd for black au2 [2k\]: b bad Bonklers [4k\]: b L4 better? Brutha [8k\]: better than k2 jantiff [6k?\]: wrong direction for black cookbook [10k?\]: w position too low? Oranje [6k\]: nice for w atman [5k\]: inside not important glint [11k?\]: B much better wrong [1d?\]: P2 small goglu [-\]: p2 looks slow Deicide [-\]: black needs to pressure at J4 Oranje [6k\]: B group between w groups ]) (;B[iq]CR[iq]C[Scribe [?\]: white o2 is a very heavy move jantiff [6k?\]: :) Chubby [?\]: ouch Bonklers [4k\]: ok Scribe [?\]: white group under severe attack phan [24k?\]: no eye space :p ] ;W[kp]CR[kp] ;B[ko]CR[ko]C[kyrilin [18k\]: not really jantiff [6k?\]: D4 is happy, white heavy wrong [1d?\]: this shape is good only in handi games ;) ] (;W[jp]CR[jp]C[Chubby [?\]: yuk glint [11k?\]: nooo Nikos [19k\]: pressure for w agui [7k\]: no ST0NE [14k\]: no ] ;B[jr]CR[jr] ;W[kr]CR[kr] ;B[gp]CR[gp]C[jantiff [6k?\]: lol ]) (;W[jo]CR[jo]C[rzhao [5k\]: no ] ;B[jp]CR[jp]) (;W[ip]CR[ip] ;B[jp]CR[jp] ;W[jq]CR[jq] ;B[jo]CR[jo] (;W[ir]CR[ir] ;B[hq]CR[hq]) (;W[hq]CR[hq] ;B[ir]CR[ir] ;W[jr]CR[jr] ;B[js]CR[js] ;W[kr]CR[kr] ;B[hr]CR[hr] ;W[gq]CR[gq] ;B[hp]CR[hp] ;W[io]CR[io] ;B[gp]CR[gp]C[goglu [-\]: game over Chubby [?\]: yuk again ])))) (;W[hq]CR[hq]C[Chubby [?\]: h3 Nikos [19k\]: j3 Chubby [?\]: yes ! Jonii [7k\]: I think he meaned nstead of F3 Jonii [7k\]: instead* ] ;B[mr]CR[mr] ;W[fq]CR[fq]C[Chubby [?\]: L2 ? Chubby [?\]: K2 Scribe [?\]: treat n3 and m2 lightly ]) (;W[ip]CR[ip]TR[dp]C[Scribe [?\]: after black n4, white must let go of white n3 Uvas [-\]: yes mingyaod [11k\]: yes okhna [15k?\]: clear ST0NE [14k\]: yes scraper [14k\]: yes goyo [?\]: ok glint [11k?\]: crystal DrGoPlayer [5k\]: yep jantiff [6k?\]: yes ! agui [7k\]: yes very clear, thanks goglu [-\]: if white K2, how does black respond Nikos [19k\]: yup, i understand this level of game ]) (;W[nq]CR[nq]C[wrong [1d?\]: how to handle B k3 then kyrilin [18k\]: q2? ] ;B[mr]CR[mr] ;W[nr]CR[nr] ;B[kr]CR[kr] ;W[ms]CR[ms]C[wrong [1d?\]: oh, never mind Scribe [?\]: white can not play o3 ] ;B[jq]CR[jq])) (;B[mr]CR[mr])) (;B[on]CR[on]C[Scribe [?\]: not joseki wrong [1d?\]: that is kyu joseki move jarl [11k\]: got it mingyaod [11k\]: yes DrGoPlayer [5k\]: thanks ST0NE [14k\]: yes goyo [?\]: r7 playm8 [6k?\]: works though Scribe [?\]: black will end up under attack scraper [14k\]: yes playm8 [6k?\]: :p amigo [15k\]: thx, i will never try to save that stone again ! ;)) glint [11k?\]: next ]))