(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1200]OT[24/360 Canadian]
PW[mingjiu]PB[mingjiu]WR[7p]BR[7p]DT[2005-02-20]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[Uvas [-\]: hello
ST0NE [14k\]: hello
playm8 [6k?\]: hello
silver2k4 [22k?\]: hello
olczyk [16k\]: hi
mingyaod [11k\]: hello
krneki [9k\]: hello
Hu [12k\]: Hello and THank you.
scraper [14k\]: hi
JanMa [25k?\]: hi
Chubby [?\]: hi there ;o) !
Javaness [6k\]: hi mingjiu !
hansb [2k?\]: hello
jarl [11k\]: laoshi hao
hugogogo [6k\]: hi
ratata [4k\]: hi
MysticoN [22k\]: hello :D
KungFused [8k\]: hi
patanjali0 [6k\]: hi
rakdver [14k\]: hi
spingle [10k\]: funny, i am waiting for you ;)
RedPrince [-\]: hi!
Chubby [?\]: hen hao ;o)
mandy [15k?\]: hi
Scribe [?\]: Ni Hao Mingjiu!
jantiff [6k?\]: hi :)
wrong [1d?\]: Ni hao mingjiu shi-fu
agui [7k\]: Hello
Uvas [-\]: good game
kalim [13k\]: hello
fredon [16k\]: hi
KOCMOC [11k?\]: sound is perfect
hansb [2k?\]: yes
au2 [2k\]: Yes
MysticoN [22k\]: yes
mingyaod [11k\]: yes
jarl [11k\]: yes
glint [11k?\]: yes...
wrong [1d?\]: or homework?
scraper [14k\]: yes
Uvas [-\]: o4r?
goglu [-\]: sure
atman [5k\]: yes please!
ST0NE [14k\]: yes
fredon [16k\]: yes
agui [7k\]: yes sure
Uvas [-\]: or?
patanjali0 [6k\]: sure
Chubby [?\]: lol
Scribe [?\]: good to hear that you are doing well Chubby
Javaness [6k\]: as long as it's not mine
mandy [15k?\]: yes
bungee [23k\]: :-)
spingle [10k\]: whats the alternative?
seidelin [8k\]: well...i guess
Chubby [?\]: huhu...
Scribe [?\]: Homework from last week first
patanjali0 [6k\]: ok
agui [7k\]: ok
rakdver [14k\]: yes
Aristocles [11k\]: ok
ST0NE [14k\]: ok
Nikos [19k\]: what homework
cookbook [10k?\]: ok
Grimley [9k\]: mistakes are cool
scraper [14k\]: ok
Bardock [5k\]: yes
valerian [2d?\]: nice
Grimley [9k\]: more joseki mistakes:)
glint [11k?\]: *slaps* Nikos
]
;B[dp]CR[dp]C[Nikos [19k\]: a is solid
Stav [7k\]: got it ^^
]
;W[oq]CR[oq]
;B[pc]CR[pc]
;W[dd]CR[dd]C[Nikos [19k\]: this is great two lectures in a row
]
;B[qp]CR[qp]
(;W[pn]CR[pn]C[Grimley [9k\]: yikes this looks tough
Uvas [-\]: no
okhna [15k?\]: no
ST0NE [14k\]: no
Oranje [6k\]: taisha
olczyk [16k\]: I wish I didn't/
cookbook [10k?\]: no
atman [5k\]: easy :-)
Grimley [9k\]: no
jantiff [6k?\]: part of it ;-)
glint [11k?\]: kina
jarl [11k\]: taisha is hard :)
Bonklers [4k\]: p4 next?
swilks [6k\]: of it
Scribe [?\]: The BIG slant (not the big easy)
goglu [-\]: lots of variations
DrGoPlayer [5k\]: q5
Nikos [20k\]: yes
glint [11k?\]: new move?
Nikos [20k\]: r6
wrong [1d?\]: so, this joseki has lots of bugs that can be exploited by Go hackers ^_^
Uvas [-\]: iforget if w r6
jantiff [6k?\]: very useful
kgsPlus [3d?\]: if black r6, white q5, black r5 then black keeps corner?
Jonii [7k\]: just few dozens of variatios instead of thousands. Taisha for kids ^^
goyo [?\]: interesting
Bonklers [4k\]: R5 Q5 R7 R6 S5 ?
Uvas [-\]: w r6 after b r5
jantiff [6k?\]: right :)
ST0NE [14k\]: ok
]
(;B[op]CR[op]C[Uvas [-\]: noo
BiG [?\]: not yet
Scribe [?\]: YES!
goyo [?\]: oomorow morning
wrong [1d?\]: what one we have to learn to reach 7d
glint [11k?\]: KO workshop :)
wrong [1d?\]: YES, homework
amigo [15k\]: i know taisha by heart , but always lose in endgame !! ;)))
Nikos [20k\]: where
Nikos [20k\]:  KO
]
;W[pp]CR[pp]
;B[po]CR[po]C[Bonklers [4k\]: complicated is best
]
;W[pq]CR[pq]
;B[qo]CR[qo]
;W[oo]CR[oo]
;B[np]CR[np])
(;B[qo]CR[qo]C[Uvas [-\]: ?
Scribe [?\]: easy way to deal with the large knights move
jantiff [6k?\]: white will P5 ?
Jonii [7k\]: force*
wrong [1d?\]: taisha is studied throughout the whole career
Uvas [-\]: now r6
]
(;W[po]CR[po]
;B[qm]CR[qm])
(;W[qn]CR[qn]C[Jonii [7k\]: can't w dorce bad shape?
]
;B[op]CR[op]C[goglu [-\]: p4
Uvas [-\]: yes
BiG [?\]: maybe we will find "taisha for dummies".... i will surely buy it
Uvas [-\]: ok
Uvas [-\]: :)
wrong [1d?\]: R5 so patient and humble
]
;W[pp]CR[pp]
;B[po]CR[po]C[BiG [?\]: oki, tks
]
(;W[pq]CR[pq]LB[qn:B][oo:A]TR[qo])
(;W[oo]CR[oo]C[Nikos [20k\]: yes
]
;B[np]CR[np]
;W[pq]CR[pq]
;B[qq]CR[qq]C[Nikos [20k\]: pateint
Nikos [20k\]: i like to bust out of tight spot
BiG [?\]: R5 is the easy variation
BiG [?\]: right ?
glint [11k?\]: homework?
]))
(;W[oo]CR[oo]
;B[qm]CR[qm]
;W[jq]CR[jq]LB[po:A]TR[oo]C[Scribe [?\]: also joseki
Scribe [?\]: white p5 vs q5 are both joseki
]))
(;B[qn]CR[qn]C[Bonklers [4k\]: Q5
jantiff [6k?\]: no
Nikos [20k\]: it seems good
okhna [15k?\]: leave the corner way
wrong [1d?\]: when the opponent asks for too much, punch him in the nose :)
wrong [1d?\]: so non-obvious move
]
(;W[qm]CR[qm]
(;B[po]CR[po]
;W[rn]CR[rn]
;B[qo]CR[qo])
(;B[qo]CR[qo]C[goglu [-\]: lol
goglu [-\]: comedy of errors
]
(;W[pm]CR[pm]C[Bonklers [4k\]: kyu players?
]
;B[op]CR[op]C[wrong [1d?\]: so simple moves a kyu would never think of
]
;W[np]CR[np]
;B[oo]CR[oo]
;W[pr]CR[pr]
;B[pj]CR[pj]
;W[nm]CR[nm]
(;B[qr]CR[qr]C[jahtobi [7k\]: O5
Uvas [-\]: new joseki
Bonklers [4k\]: n3?
Bonklers [4k\]: ok
]
(;W[mo]CR[mo])
(;W[qq]CR[qq]
;B[rq]CR[rq]
;W[pq]CR[pq]
;B[rs]CR[rs]
;W[qh]CR[qh]))
(;B[mn]CR[mn]C[amigo [15k\]: o5
kalim [13k\]: doesnt exploit
jantiff [6k?\]: move out and split
Jonii [7k\]: wow
]))
(;W[oo]CR[oo])))
(;W[po]CR[po]C[Nikos [20k\]: yes
Nikos [20k\]: strange
amigo [15k\]: lol
]
(;B[qo]CR[qo]C[Bonklers [4k\]: then Q7
Jonii [7k\]: rank is back! ^^
]
;W[pm]CR[pm]C[Scribe [?\]: not a good position for black, black is too low and behind
])
(;B[qm]CR[qm]
;W[qo]CR[qo]
;B[ro]CR[ro]
;W[rn]CR[rn]C[GoteExpert [4k\]: Nikos: stop studying
GoteExpert [4k\]: :)
]
(;B[rm]CR[rm]C[Nikos [20k\]: ?
]
;W[rp]CR[rp]
;B[sn]CR[sn]
;W[qq]CR[qq]C[Scribe [?\]: white gets large corner
atman [5k\]: there is a saying that you get 2 stones weaker when studying joseki
])
(;B[rp]CR[rp]C[hansb [2k?\]: nose tesuji
Bonklers [4k\]: r8? instead?
goglu [-\]: R8 is tesuji
]
(;W[rm]CR[rm]C[Uvas [-\]: study joseki, lose 2 stones :0
]
;B[ql]CR[ql]
;W[rl]CR[rl]C[tsukihime [12k?\]: understand +4 ^^
]
;B[qk]CR[qk]
;W[rk]CR[rk]
;B[qj]CR[qj]
;W[rj]CR[rj]
;B[qi]CR[qi]C[atman [5k\]: Nikos is showing us this effect :-)
])
(;W[ql]CR[ql]C[jantiff [6k?\]: nose !
Bonklers [4k\]: yey
]
(;B[pm]CR[pm]
;W[rm]CR[rm])
(;B[rm]CR[rm]
;W[pm]CR[pm]
;B[pl]CR[pl]
;W[qj]CR[qj]))))))
(;B[po]CR[po]
;W[oo]CR[oo]
;B[qn]CR[qn]C[Scribe [?\]: also joseki
]))
(;W[po]CR[po]C[Uvas [-\]: lol
Pathos [?\]: Nikos, you lost a rank during this lecture.  No good for you :)
]
;B[qo]CR[qo]C[Nikos [20k\]: why not b r6 first
]
;W[pn]CR[pn]C[Oranje [6k\]: isn't this wussy?
]
(;B[qm]CR[qm]C[Bonklers [4k\]: walk ahead 
]
;W[pm]CR[pm]
;B[ql]CR[ql]C[Scribe [?\]: white at q5 prepares for white r3 to take corner
]
;W[pl]CR[pl]
;B[pk]CR[pk]
;W[ok]CR[ok]
;B[oj]CR[oj]
;W[qn]CR[qn]
;B[rn]CR[rn]
;W[ro]CR[ro]
;B[rm]CR[rm]
;W[pj]CR[pj]
;B[qk]CR[qk]
;W[nk]CR[nk]
;B[pi]CR[pi]LB[oo:A]TR[po]C[Nikos [20k\]: white must use wall well
]
;W[qq]CR[qq]C[Bonklers [4k\]: ahhh!
]
;B[rp]CR[rp]
;W[jq]CR[jq]
;B[pp]CR[pp]
;W[op]CR[op]
;B[pq]CR[pq]
;W[pr]CR[pr]
;B[qr]CR[qr]
;W[rq]CR[rq])
(;B[qn]CR[qn]
;W[pm]CR[pm]))
(;W[qn]CR[qn]C[Uvas [-\]: no
]))