(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1650]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[jujo]PB[jujo]WR[9p]BR[9p]DT[2005-03-13]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[okhna [14k?\]: no audio ?
Uvas [-\]: yay
Uvas [-\]: hi
playgo [4k\]: hi
okhna [14k?\]: hello
EmTom [18k?\]: hello
blue88 [16k\]: lo
oyo [9k\]: hi
Ekei [13k\]: hi
koutaro [22k?\]: hello
doIknowYou [?\]: hi
ST0NE [14k\]: hello
koutaro [22k?\]: :P
dicentra [13k\]: hi
kashon [8k\]: hello:)
Kryptos [7k?\]: hello
chucha [19k\]: hi
smuin [?\]: hello
GoWhispers [13k\]: bonjour
krneki [9k\]: hello
shuei [-\]: hellooo
GoWhispers [13k\]: yes
playgo [4k\]: yes
ST0NE [14k\]: yes
Uvas [-\]: yes
koutaro [22k?\]: yes
Kryptos [7k?\]: yeah
Arkdragon [14k\]: yea
oyo [9k\]: yes
MysticoN [19k\]: have you ever played one color Go jujo ??
Ekei [13k\]: yeah
EmTom [18k?\]: we can hear you
koutaro [22k?\]: hi
spingle [9k\]: yeah we can hear you ;)
smuin [?\]: can hear
MysticoN [19k\]: hello
chucha [19k\]: yes...+
Wook [-\]: yes hello :)
ZeroKun [-\]: move a bit closer
krneki [9k\]: yes
Grimley [8k\]: bad sound over hear
Arkdragon [14k\]: hi
murky [?\]: hi
wingnut [-\]: can hear you jujo
taudrilly [15k\]: hello
Bodo212 [15k\]: I hear -thx
doIknowYou [?\]: we can hear you
okhna [14k?\]: nice sound
spingle [9k\]: hello
wayward [10k\]: good
mameshiba [30k?\]: hello
okhna [14k?\]: yes
koutaro [22k?\]: yes
MysticoN [19k\]: yes
playgo [4k\]: sound is ok yes
EmTom [18k?\]: yup
Arkdragon [14k\]: yes
Grimley [8k\]: here its not very nice
GoWhispers [13k\]: yes
wayward [10k\]: loud and clear!
doIknowYou [?\]: YES
Kryptos [7k?\]: yes
dicentra [13k\]: yes
taudrilly [15k\]: yes
oyo [9k\]: yes
krneki [9k\]: yes
MysticoN [19k\]: hahaa
zviratko [12k?\]: yes
Uvas [-\]: can you see us?
koutaro [22k?\]: hai
KLu [9k?\]: yes ok
Ekei [13k\]: sound is ok
mjv [-\]: yes 
Wook [-\]: yes, but you can't hear us
PorcoRosso [8k\]: yeah
wayward [10k\]: good to go
MysticoN [19k\]: hahaha
Wook [-\]: it's one way
jantiff [7k?\]: hello
Bodo212 [15k\]: we hear
dicentra [13k\]: we hear you
vonski [6k\]: yes
krneki [9k\]: hello
smudge [12k?\]: Please move closer to the microphone
playgo [4k\]: we can hear you yes
Arkdragon [14k\]: good to go
zviratko [12k?\]: WE HEAR YOU
koutaro [22k?\]: yes
DrGoPlayer [5k\]: yes
MysticoN [19k\]: yes :D
Grimley [8k\]: bad sound
koutaro [22k?\]: YES
MysticoN [19k\]: hahaa
krneki [9k\]: sound works fine
MrBen [23k\]: yes!
koutaro [22k?\]: YES
smuin [?\]: hear u
EmTom [18k?\]: yes we do
KLu [9k?\]: we hear you :)
kashon [8k\]: YES:)
shuei [-\]: yeah
wayward [10k\]: yes we can :)
murky [?\]: We can hear you, Jujo
Out [18k\]: I can hear you.
akew [24k?\]: bad sound
spingle [9k\]: you need to scroll the thing on the right down to read teh text
Out [18k\]: yes
Arkdragon [14k\]: yes
chucha [19k\]: yes
murky [?\]: Exciting
kalim [13k\]: yes!
Arkdragon [14k\]: yep
Scribe [?\]: ChangHao vs Korean Players
Scribe [?\]: Ing Cup game
]
;B[pd]CR[pd]
;W[dd]CR[dd]
(;B[pq]CR[pq]C[Scribe [?\]: more commonly white plays two start points
]
(;W[cp]CR[cp]C[olczyk [16k\]: White is?
yfh2 [7k?\]: Choi CheolHan [kr\] 
goglu [-\]: White is Choi Cheolhan
]
;B[eq]CR[eq]C[jantiff [7k?\]: anti-chinese
]
;W[qo]CR[qo]
;B[pl]CR[pl]
(;W[lp]CR[lp]C[Scribe [?\]: white desired a more fighing style
ndkrempel [5k\]: C4 looks wrong direction?
Scribe [?\]: white m4 seeks to separate the bottom
]
;B[po]CR[po]
;W[iq]CR[iq]C[Uvas [-\]: ok
Arkdragon [14k\]: ok
]
(;B[cf]CR[cf]C[balance [6k\]: good question
]
(;W[dh]CR[dh]C[Scribe [?\]: Real game record first, then review variations
zviratko [12k?\]: ok
]
(;B[ef]CR[ef]
;W[fd]CR[fd]
(;B[dk]CR[dk]C[Arkdragon [14k\]: ok
Scribe [?\]: black mistake here
]
(;W[cm]CR[cm]C[Scribe [?\]: D9 is an unusual move
Grimley [8k\]: strongest player of the world makes mistake:)
Scribe [?\]: game now slightly favors white
Arkdragon [14k\]: cap?
playgo [4k\]: F9 ?
wingnut [-\]: F12 
Arkdragon [14k\]: yes
suducodu [?\]: Dun know
Arkdragon [14k\]: hahaha
Scribe [?\]: black does not have good attack on white d12 stone
Arkdragon [14k\]: i got it right
]
(;B[fh]CR[fh]C[Arkdragon [14k\]: i c
suducodu [?\]: mmm hmm
]
(;W[ce]CR[ce]
(;B[bf]CR[bf]C[Scribe [?\]: white b14 worth about 35 points
]
(;W[cj]CR[cj]C[Scribe [?\]: black must descend at b14
kjp [6k\]: dont miss this move
KLu [9k?\]: c10 is a bit heavy?
Scribe [?\]: white c10 is also unusual, particular to Chang Hao's style
]
(;B[ck]CR[ck]
;W[dj]CR[dj]
;B[ek]CR[ek]C[Scribe [?\]: resulting an an unusual fuseki
Scribe [?\]: white starts the fight in earnest
]
;W[bk]CR[bk]
;B[bl]CR[bl]
;W[bj]CR[bj]C[kjp [6k\]: why does he not connect
]
(;B[cl]CR[cl]
;W[fi]CR[fi]
;B[gi]CR[gi]
;W[fj]CR[fj]
;B[gh]CR[gh]
;W[em]CR[em]
;B[fl]CR[fl]
;W[gj]CR[gj]C[Scribe [?\]: if black connects at c8, white will split black groups
]
(;B[hj]CR[hj]
;W[hk]CR[hk]C[Scribe [?\]: attacking black group at d9 and building in the bottom left
Scribe [?\]: e3 will become weaker as this fight progresses
Scribe [?\]: purpose of fight is not to kill (not a reasonable expection)
])
(;B[fm]CR[fm]
;W[fn]CR[fn]C[Scribe [?\]: purpose of attack is to make profit
]))
(;B[do]CR[do]
(;W[fi]CR[fi]C[Scribe [?\]: real game 
]
;B[co]CR[co]C[Scribe [?\]: not timing for black to connect at c8
jantiff [7k?\]: very nice
]
;W[bm]CR[bm]
;B[gi]CR[gi]
;W[fj]CR[fj]C[Scribe [?\]: white f11 -- not best move
]
(;B[bo]CR[bo]
;W[gf]CR[gf]C[Scribe [?\]: fighting starts very early
Scribe [?\]: black takes cash (lower left corner) first
]
(;B[ge]CR[ge]
;W[fe]CR[fe]
;B[ff]CR[ff]
;W[gg]CR[gg]
;B[gh]CR[gh]
(;W[he]CR[he]
;B[eh]CR[eh]
(;W[fk]CR[fk]C[Scribe [?\]: only playable if a no komi game (move 46)
]
(;B[dm]CR[dm]
;W[em]CR[em]
;B[en]CR[en]
;W[dl]CR[dl]
;B[el]CR[el]
;W[dn]CR[dn]
;B[fm]CR[fm]
;W[fn]CR[fn]
;B[dm]CR[dm]C[Scribe [?\]: BIG ko
]
;W[dg]CR[dg]
;B[df]CR[df]
;W[em]CR[em]
;B[eo]CR[eo]
;W[fl]CR[fl]
;B[dm]CR[dm]
;W[ii]CR[ii]
(;B[cc]CR[cc]C[kjp [6k\]: live in corner
kjp [6k\]: B wins by 3 point
kjp [6k\]: good ko tread
]
;W[cd]CR[cd]
;B[ed]CR[ed]
;W[ee]CR[ee]
;B[hj]CR[hj]
;W[em]CR[em]
;B[ec]CR[ec]
;W[dc]CR[dc]
;B[dm]CR[dm]C[kjp [6k\]: why not end ko at C8
groove [1k\]: gobase.org
Scribe [?\]: gobase.org or go4go.net to get full game recrod
yfh2 [7k?\]: http://gobase.org/replay/?gam=/games/inter/titles/ing/5/game-04.sgf
wingnut [-\]: Black was lucky to win this game?
wingnut [-\]: thx jujo :)
Scribe [?\]: Xiexie jujo laoshi!
kole [5k\]: thank you jujo
groove [1k\]: thx
Kryptos [7k?\]: thanks for the lesson
Bamsen [3k?\]: Thank you Jujo
oyo [9k\]: thx
gorocks [28k?\]: thank you jujo
crapougne [12k\]: thanks
offtosea [16k\]: Thanks!
okhna [14k?\]: thank you very much
geocaplan [1d\]: xie xie
suducodu [?\]: Thankies!!
pugh [16k\]: thank you jujo
doIknowYou [?\]: thank you!
oyo [9k\]: was great
au2 [2k\]: THANK YOU
murky [?\]: Thank you
iprincess [?\]: thanks
juve [20k?\]: thx u jujo
Bodo212 [15k\]: thx
musubi [8k\]: thank you
Ekei [13k\]: thx
KLu [9k?\]: thanks
Arkdragon [14k\]: thx
tibra [8k?\]: thank you
Ambivlnce [13k\]: Thank you
ST0NE [14k\]: thanks
olczyk [16k\]: game on www.gobase.org
smuin [?\]: thx
kjp [6k\]: mange tak for undervisningen
brx [14k\]: thx
olczyk [16k\]: thank you
Scribe [?\]: thanks to Ing FOundation for making this opportunity possible
au2 [2k\]: THANKS TO ING FOUNDATION
hansb [3k?\]: very nice, thank you
blue88 [16k\]: thx
lazy [?\]: thanks for the lesson
rzhao [5k\]: thx
wingnut [-\]: thx scribe as always
mingjiu [7p\]: yes
suducodu [?\]: THANK U!!!!
yukon [17k?\]: thx
swilks [7k\]: thank you
au2 [2k\]: thanks Scribe
kalim [13k\]: thnak you jujo!
Arkdragon [14k\]: thx
jantiff [7k?\]: thank you
Jnaksu [?\]: Thank you very much
bonobo03 [8k\]: thank you very much 
suducodu [?\]: So, it's over now?
pinguin [18k\]: thanks
agui [7k\]: Thank you very much for this lesson
])
(;B[em]CR[em]
;W[hk]CR[hk]
;B[ih]CR[ih]
;W[jh]CR[jh]
;B[ig]CR[ig]
;W[jg]CR[jg]
;B[if]CR[if]C[gaius [13k\]: shouldnt b finish the ko at C8 ?
]
;W[jd]CR[jd]
;B[jf]CR[jf]C[kjp [6k\]: why not take C8
]
;W[kf]CR[kf]
;B[ke]CR[ke]
;W[ji]CR[ji]
;B[hi]CR[hi]
;W[je]CR[je]C[Scribe [?\]: hard for black with line 14 group if black ends ko
]
;B[cc]CR[cc]
;W[cd]CR[cd]
;B[bc]CR[bc]
;W[bd]CR[bd]C[kjp [6k\]: game over for B
]))
(;B[ii]CR[ii]C[kjp [6k\]: W misssed E7
]
;W[en]CR[en]
;B[qp]CR[qp]
;W[eo]CR[eo]))
(;W[em]CR[em]C[Scribe [?\]: black's prepartion of g15 prevents white pushing through at f13
Scribe [?\]: white has almost killed black four stones at line 9 (about 10 points)
]
;B[ii]CR[ii]C[Scribe [?\]: white top left corner about 15 points
]
;W[qp]CR[qp]
;B[pp]CR[pp]C[Scribe [?\]: this game too easy for whtie
]
;W[qq]CR[qq]C[Scribe [?\]: black has no big territory
Scribe [?\]: top and bottom corners balance but other areas do not
]))
(;W[fg]CR[fg]
;B[eg]CR[eg]
;W[eh]CR[eh]
;B[hf]CR[hf]C[KLu [9k?\]: nice
]))
(;B[ff]CR[ff]
;W[gg]CR[gg]C[Scribe [?\]: white g14 is severe
]
;B[gh]CR[gh]
;W[fg]CR[fg]
;B[eg]CR[eg]C[Scribe [?\]: game could be over this way
]
;W[eh]CR[eh]C[kjp [6k\]: hard time for B
]
;B[ge]CR[ge]
(;W[fe]CR[fe]
;B[hf]CR[hf])
(;W[he]CR[he]
;B[gd]CR[gd]
;W[fe]CR[fe])))
(;B[gh]CR[gh]C[kjp [6k\]: All W is connected
]
;W[bo]CR[bo]C[Scribe [?\]: if black connects, then white will also connect
]))
(;W[eg]CR[eg]
(;B[ff]CR[ff]
;W[df]CR[df])
(;B[de]CR[de]
;W[cd]CR[cd]C[Scribe [?\]: toog good for white to allow white side and corner to connect
]
;B[fg]CR[fg]
;W[ee]CR[ee]
;B[df]CR[df]
;W[ff]CR[ff]
;B[gf]CR[gf]C[Scribe [?\]: still hard for black to connect
wingnut [-\]: tricky
]
;W[fe]CR[fe]
;B[cl]CR[cl]C[Scribe [?\]: line 14 stones and outside stones
]
;W[ch]CR[ch])
(;B[dg]CR[dg]
;W[eh]CR[eh]
(;B[fg]CR[fg]
;W[ff]CR[ff]C[Scribe [?\]: black can not block at f13
])
(;B[ff]CR[ff]
;W[fg]CR[fg]
;B[gf]CR[gf]
;W[gg]CR[gg]C[Scribe [?\]: white cut at f14 is too severe
wingnut [-\]: W gets out
]
;B[hf]CR[hf]
;W[hd]CR[hd]C[Scribe [?\]: too good for white
]))))
(;B[ge]CR[ge]
(;W[cl]CR[cl]
;B[gd]CR[gd]C[Scribe [?\]: preferable move for blakc is g15
]
;W[fe]CR[fe]
;B[ff]CR[ff]C[Scribe [?\]: very hard for white
]
;W[gc]CR[gc]
;B[hc]CR[hc]
;W[fc]CR[fc]
;B[id]CR[id]C[Scribe [?\]: too good for black
Scribe [?\]: especially with black fourth line stones on right side and top right
]
(;W[dq]CR[dq]
;B[cc]CR[cc])
(;W[be]CR[be]))
(;W[hc]CR[hc]
;B[do]CR[do])))
(;B[dj]CR[dj]
;W[ck]CR[ck]
;B[ci]CR[ci]
;W[ic]CR[ic]C[Scribe [?\]: c10 fighting move, refuses to give black any profit
]))
(;W[ei]CR[ei]C[jantiff [7k?\]: Choi's style
]
;B[gj]CR[gj]
;W[ek]CR[ek]
;B[dl]CR[dl]
;W[dj]CR[dj]C[wingnut [-\]: white is Choi
]
;B[dm]CR[dm]
;W[cn]CR[cn]C[kjp [6k\]: too easy for B
]
;B[dn]CR[dn]C[Scribe [?\]: correction CHOI's style
]))
(;B[gf]CR[gf]
;W[bf]CR[bf]C[wingnut [-\]: ouch
kole [5k\]: more than 35 points
spingle [9k\]: 35?
kole [5k\]: b14 - >35 points
Scribe [?\]: black can not allow white to play b14
]))
(;W[bk]CR[bk]
;B[hc]CR[hc]
;W[ge]CR[ge]
;B[jd]CR[jd]C[Scribe [?\]: black attacks white two stones on line 16 to build profit on the top 
]))
(;B[gf]CR[gf]
;W[hd]CR[hd]
;B[if]CR[if]
;W[jd]CR[jd]
(;B[ei]CR[ei]C[genjiro [21k?\]: on the center
]
;W[bk]CR[bk]
;B[di]CR[di]C[genjiro [21k?\]: but black has a too big moyo
])
(;B[cl]CR[cl]
;W[dm]CR[dm]
;B[ei]CR[ei]
;W[ce]CR[ce]
;B[bf]CR[bf]C[Scribe [?\]: not good enough for black
]
;W[ek]CR[ek]
;B[ej]CR[ej]
;W[fk]CR[fk]C[Scribe [?\]: black e3 becoming weak
KLu [9k?\]: good prospects for <hirz in rhz bottom
kole [5k\]: the exchange gave w too much profit
wingnut [-\]: ok
])))
(;W[fh]CR[fh]
;B[gf]CR[gf]
;W[hd]CR[hd]
;B[cn]CR[cn]C[Scribe [?\]: now white can attack d12/f12 as well as getting an attack on c4
]))
(;B[bd]CR[bd]
;W[cg]CR[cg]C[Scribe [?\]: black one space jump prevents white from building territory quickly
]
;B[dg]CR[dg]
;W[ch]CR[ch]
;B[cc]CR[cc]
;W[bf]CR[bf]
;B[ce]CR[ce]
;W[dc]CR[dc]
;B[be]CR[be]
;W[ic]CR[ic]C[genjiro [21k?\]: fine
Scribe [?\]: good for white.  white gets good position on top and a position that helps the white c4 stone
])
(;B[cn]CR[cn]
(;W[ep]CR[ep])
(;W[dq]CR[dq])
(;W[do]CR[do]
;B[dn]CR[dn]
;W[fp]CR[fp]
;B[dk]CR[dk])))
(;B[do]CR[do]
;W[co]CR[co]
;B[dn]CR[dn]
;W[cm]CR[cm]
;B[fd]CR[fd]
;W[df]CR[df])
(;B[cc]CR[cc]
;W[cd]CR[cd]
;B[dc]CR[dc]
;W[ed]CR[ed]
;B[bd]CR[bd]
;W[be]CR[be]
;B[bc]CR[bc]
;W[ce]CR[ce]
;B[fc]CR[fc]
;W[dq]CR[dq]C[Scribe [?\]: black 3x3 invasion not a good choice here. white left side is too good
]
;B[ep]CR[ep]
;W[dn]CR[dn]))
(;W[ch]CR[ch]C[Arkdragon [14k\]: split the left side?
Scribe [?\]: Why black c14 ?  
]
;B[do]CR[do]
;W[co]CR[co]
;B[dn]CR[dn]
;W[cm]CR[cm]
;B[fd]CR[fd]
;W[df]CR[df]
;B[dg]CR[dg]
;W[cg]CR[cg]
;B[dc]CR[dc]
;W[ce]CR[ce]C[Scribe [?\]: white c12 is wrong (but its a standard pincer)  because it is easy for black to push white down on the third line
]
;B[cc]CR[cc]C[suducodu [?\]: That doesn't look very good for black
kjp [6k\]: white is low
suducodu [?\]: Oh
]))
(;B[qp]CR[qp]
;W[dq]CR[dq]
;B[ep]CR[ep]
;W[dn]CR[dn]C[Scribe [?\]: white gives up r5 (light stone) while splitting bottom
]
;B[hp]CR[hp]
;W[ip]CR[ip]
;B[ho]CR[ho]
;W[io]CR[io]
;B[hn]CR[hn]C[Scribe [?\]: this variation, white builds the left and creates a target for attack in black's stones on E4/5
Scribe [?\]: E3/4
]
;W[hq]CR[hq]C[Scribe [?\]: this sequence not good for black
Scribe [?\]: white has corner and nice shape on the other side
Scribe [?\]: this style/sequence of play has been abandoned over the last 10 years
Grimley [8k\]: its clear
Uvas [-\]: ok
]))
(;W[no]CR[no]
;B[mq]CR[mq]
;W[lo]CR[lo]
;B[kp]CR[kp]C[Scribe [?\]: common book sequence
]
;W[ko]CR[ko]
;B[jp]CR[jp]
;W[jo]CR[jo]
;B[ip]CR[ip]C[Scribe [?\]: each exchange helps black build territory along the bottom
Scribe [?\]: therefore not playable for white in this game
]))
(;W[dp]CR[dp]
;B[fq]CR[fq]
;W[cn]CR[cn]
;B[jp]CR[jp]))
(;B[qp]CR[qp]))