(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[600]OT[10x60 byo-yomi]
PW[mingjiu]PB[mingjiu]WR[7p]BR[7p]DT[2005-03-27]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[NEWS [9k\]: hi
MysticoN [18k\]: yo
blue88 [15k\]: hi
Jugular [4k\]: hello
mingyaod [11k\]: nihao
murky [?\]: Hi
Ermac [9k\]: hello
Jenny12yrs [13k\]: hihi
ligo [8k?\]: hello
Drum24 [12k\]: hello
shuterlee [6k\]: hello
isshoni [13k\]: hello
agui [7k\]: Hello
smuin [?\]: hello
offtosea [15k\]: hi!
amigo [13k\]: hi :))
okhna [14k?\]: salut
KarateKid [9k?\]: Yo
blue88 [15k\]: oh i missed that voice xD
smudge [12k?\]: hello mingjiu
braincrash [?\]: hi more volume please
Jugular [4k\]: two lectures!!
Stampertje [?\]: hi MJ
Jugular [4k\]: It's like christmas
okhna [14k?\]: amateurs are great
KarateKid [9k?\]: Show us some Magic:p
isshoni [13k\]: yeap!
isshoni [13k\]: ok
]
(;B[pd]CR[pd]
(;W[pp]CR[pp]
;B[dd]CR[dd]C[Scribe [?\]: example game of very popular fuseki
zee [9k\]: bad idea
zee [9k\]: this is ok
isshoni [13k\]: love your brother
Scribe [?\]: sequence of moves is important
okhna [14k?\]: you are playing in one but in the other you are forced or like it
]
(;W[qf]CR[qf]C[blue88 [15k\]: i just saw it yesterday, when i replayed a japanese titlematch :)
albertsan [11k\]: sorry i dont get it :-(
okhna [14k?\]: ^^
]
(;B[dp]CR[dp]C[Murayama [?\]: hi Mingjiu Jiang
]
(;W[mc]CR[mc]
(;B[nd]CR[nd]C[Murayama [?\]: N17 new move?
]
;W[ob]CR[ob]C[Drum24 [12k\]: Q17
Nikos [18k\]: miai
zee [9k\]: easy for B
oeillet [9k\]: thanks
Scribe [?\]: first the two white groups must be split by r17
BloodyRose [5k\]: Yep :)
]
(;B[qc]CR[qc]LB[kd:A][pi:B]C[wingnut [-\]: splitting attack
oeillet [9k\]: Scribe, I need you !
Nikos [18k\]: two options
zee [9k\]: B attacks
zee [9k\]: since O16 is there, Q14 becomes bad
wholeboard [?\]: yes
isshoni [13k\]: ok
agui [7k\]: yes
Murayama [?\]: R17 very nice move
haka [-\]: yup
]
(;W[kd]CR[kd]
;B[pi]CR[pi])
(;W[pi]CR[pi]
;B[kd]CR[kd]C[Scribe [?\]: after black r17 both A (L16) and B Q11 are possbile for blakc
Scribe [?\]: allowing black to attack one white group or the other
]))
(;B[pf]CR[pf]C[blue88 [15k\]: whats best response if white jumps out after q11?
wingnut [-\]: no
haka [-\]: r17 of course :)
musubi [8k\]: no
]
;W[pg]CR[pg]
;B[of]CR[of]C[zee [9k\]: game
]
;W[qe]CR[qe]
;B[qd]CR[qd]
;W[jc]CR[jc]C[schlemiel [10k\]: helps W weak stone
]))
(;B[pf]CR[pf]
;W[pg]CR[pg]
;B[of]CR[of]
;W[qe]CR[qe]
;B[qd]CR[qd]
(;W[pe]CR[pe]
;B[oe]CR[oe]
;W[od]CR[od]
;B[rd]CR[rd]
;W[qh]CR[qh]
;B[nd]CR[nd]
;W[oc]CR[oc]C[zee [9k\]: If wanted this he should have played this way
]
;B[nc]CR[nc]
;W[ob]CR[ob]
;B[nb]CR[nb]
;W[qb]CR[qb]
;B[rb]CR[rb]C[wingnut [-\]: clear
]
(;W[ra]CR[ra]C[Jugular [4k\]: t18
Ermac [9k\]: t18
wingnut [-\]: Q18 
Scribe [?\]: black must be careful in the corner
tobe30k [14k\]: R17 
Drum24 [12k\]: r17
Nikos [18k\]: S17 
PeterL [-\]: s17
agui [7k\]: q18
agui [7k\]: very nice !
]
(;B[sb]CR[sb]C[Ordiac [9k\]: q18
kyrilin [17k\]: q18
wingnut [-\]: R17 
Murayama [?\]: P16 not work?
]
;W[ne]CR[ne]C[Jugular [4k\]: ouch
murky [?\]: trouble
]
;B[md]CR[md]
;W[nf]CR[nf]
;B[og]CR[og]C[Scribe [?\]: the white cut at o15 is severe
isshoni [13k\]: q18?
]
;W[nh]CR[nh]C[tobe30k [14k\]: Q18 good one?
]
(;B[oh]CR[oh]
;W[oi]CR[oi])
(;B[ph]CR[ph]
(;W[qg]CR[qg]
;B[oh]CR[oh]C[Scribe [?\]: while the ladder is good for black
Scribe [?\]: the net is not
schlemiel [10k\]: W not save Q13
])
(;W[oh]CR[oh]
;B[qg]CR[qg]
;W[rg]CR[rg]C[Badduck [5d\]: t18 at n15?
zee [9k\]: O12game over
Nikos [18k\]: O13 
Scribe [?\]: no ko threats at this stage in the game
])))
(;B[me]CR[me]
;W[rc]CR[rc]
;B[pb]CR[pb]C[Stampertje [?\]: game over
]
(;W[pc]CR[pc]
;B[qc]CR[qc]
;W[pa]CR[pa]
;B[sc]CR[sc]TR[mc]C[zee [9k\]: N15 is right
Murayama [?\]: ko?
zee [9k\]: W cannot kill B
])
(;W[pa]CR[pa]
;B[pc]CR[pc]
;W[oa]CR[oa]
;B[na]CR[na]
;W[qa]CR[qa]
;B[sb]CR[sb]C[tobe30k [14k\]: yeah
KarateKid [9k?\]: haha
tobe30k [14k\]: :D
Jugular [4k\]: yup
agui [7k\]: yes
blue88 [15k\]: damezumari
agui [7k\]: for black
Jugular [4k\]: white
Jugular [4k\]: t16 dangerous
BloodyRose [5k\]: How naughty :P
]
;W[sc]CR[sc]
(;B[sd]CR[sd]
;W[sa]CR[sa]C[goglu [-\]: white is dead
olczyk [16k\]: Throw the board.
blue88 [15k\]: s15
]
;B[rb]CR[rb]C[mayday [10k?\]: :)))
]
;W[re]CR[re])
(;B[qc]CR[qc]C[Murayama [?\]: ))
]
;W[sa]CR[sa]
;B[rb]CR[rb]))))
(;W[ne]CR[ne]C[agui [7k\]: yes very clear
]
;B[nf]CR[nf]
;W[me]CR[me]
;B[pb]CR[pb]
;W[pc]CR[pc]
;B[qc]CR[qc]
;W[pa]CR[pa]
;B[na]CR[na]C[zee [9k\]: ladder does not matter here
Murayama [?\]: i see
zee [9k\]: koW is dead
]))
(;W[ob]CR[ob]C[KarateKid [9k?\]: p16 ?
Jugular [4k\]: p13?
albertsan [11k\]: O16 ?
BloodyRose [5k\]: Q11
wingnut [-\]: P17 
agui [7k\]: p17
]
;B[nd]CR[nd]C[BloodyRose [5k\]: High pincer.
murky [?\]: r13
Jugular [4k\]: seems small
Stampertje [?\]: p17
jramon [14k\]: Q15
zee [9k\]: O16 bad
])))
(;W[nc]CR[nc]C[oeillet [9k\]: audio is terrible here :o(
]))
(;B[nd]CR[nd]C[okhna [14k?\]: clear here too
]
;W[dp]CR[dp]TR[dd][nd][pd]C[schlemiel [10k\]: R10
Murayama [?\]: interesting
oeillet [9k\]: B r15 ?
Sumo [8k\]: r12
blue88 [15k\]: once you have the choice and once you dont
wholeboard [?\]: this is clear
]
(;B[jd]CR[jd]C[Drum24 [12k\]: j16 instead ?
Sumo [8k\]: ?
Scribe [?\]: K16 does not support D16 suffciently
zee [9k\]: B should help top left
agui [7k\]: yes
Scribe [?\]: D16 is the weakest stone
Ordiac [9k\]:  g16no work ?
shuterlee [6k\]: yes
okhna [14k?\]: help the weak 
Nikos [18k\]: is it not the same thing
albertsan [11k\]: is O16 best move after the kakari ?
PaperTiger [12k\]: I don't understand how the exact same position is bad in one case, and good in another.
Jugular [4k\]: its the best you can get in one situation but there is a better optoin in the other
DrGoPlayer [5k\]: since order is changed, b can do bettrer
BloodyRose [5k\]: B can choose a better way then the other start.
BloodyRose [5k\]: Both are OK, but B probably wants a better position.
blue88 [15k\]: its clear :)
])
(;B[gc]CR[gc])
(;B[fc]CR[fc])))
(;W[dp]CR[dp]C[oeillet [9k\]: this is Takemiya style
]
;B[jd]CR[jd]
;W[qf]CR[qf]
(;B[nd]CR[nd]TR[jd])
(;B[of]CR[of]
;W[ph]CR[ph]
;B[nh]CR[nh]
;W[oj]CR[oj]
;B[dj]CR[dj]C[Drum24 [12k\]: K4
okhna [14k?\]: r17
haka [-\]: o17?
Murayama [?\]: C17 
Nikos [18k\]: Q7 
zee [9k\]: Now where should W play?
murky [?\]: san san
au2 [2k\]: C17
albertsan [11k\]: N10 
offtosea [15k\]: d14
Badduck [5d\]: n10?
wholeboard [?\]: c17
agui [7k\]: D7
MysticoN [18k\]: M10 
]
(;W[cc]CR[cc]C[BloodyRose [5k\]: O17
xix [18k\]: tengen
])
(;W[fc]CR[fc]C[DangoMouse [-\]: w h17
])
(;W[hc]CR[hc])
(;W[cm]CR[cm]LB[rd:C][re:B][jq:A][mq:E]TR[nc][oc][pc][qc][nd][ne][nf][og]C[zonepress [5k\]: M10
zee [9k\]: game
Ordiac [9k\]: weirdmove
BloodyRose [5k\]: Calm.
au2 [2k\]: slow
Nikos [18k\]: seems slow
kolben [2k?\]: ok
blue88 [15k\]: prepares invasion
BloodyRose [5k\]: Can invade top later
zee [9k\]: this is ok
Murayama [?\]: C7 not slow
Jugular [4k\]: boring
shuterlee [6k\]: locally c8 better?
Nikos [18k\]: i like to invade now
Jugular [4k\]: ;-)
BloodyRose [5k\]: Boring, but prepares for later.
albertsan [11k\]: N10 makes a nice moyo
Nikos [18k\]: scared of potential b thickness
Vilzu [2k\]: R15
BloodyRose [5k\]: R15
Ordiac [9k\]: r6
Jugular [4k\]: r15
okhna [14k?\]: r6
Drum24 [12k\]: o3 ?
Jugular [4k\]: s16
isshoni [13k\]: o4? n3?
kolben [2k?\]: n10
okhna [14k?\]: sansan
mayday [10k?\]: R3
av8 [11k\]: k3
wholeboard [?\]: s15
zee [9k\]: How can B play now?
oeillet [9k\]: f16
GonFreeks [17k?\]: k3
isshoni [13k\]: k3?
blue88 [15k\]: n3
haka [-\]: o3
marmotte [-\]: L3
xix [18k\]: o3
Badduck [5d\]: like e7
Ordiac [9k\]: n10 looks nice to me
Murayama [?\]: L3 maybe?
wingnut [-\]: S16 
BloodyRose [5k\]: Top right corner ;)
schlemiel [10k\]: k4
xix [18k\]: o3
Jugular [4k\]: top or bottom?
DangoMouse [-\]: s15?
BloodyRose [5k\]: R3
Sumo [8k\]: q6
isshoni [13k\]: o4?
Scribe [?\]: D17
offtosea [15k\]: q6
Jugular [4k\]: s16
musubi [8k\]: Q17
BloodyRose [5k\]: R15
Sting [6k\]: R12?
Jugular [4k\]: r16
xix [18k\]: r6
mayday [10k?\]: S 4
MaxMakinen [23k\]: r7?
mayday [10k?\]: S4 ? S5
blue88 [15k\]: what about n3? :'( ^^
Sting [6k\]: R12?
rocco [?\]: ^K3 certainly
apitoo [4k\]: r15
BloodyRose [5k\]: R15 ;)
schlemiel [10k\]: no ideas just guesses
shuterlee [6k\]: k10 :)
Scribe [?\]: white can no longer invade
Stampertje [?\]: yes
okhna [14k?\]: atack weak first
Bodo212 [15k\]: yes
NEWS [9k\]: yes
]
(;B[qd]CR[qd]TR[qf]C[okhna [14k?\]: P17
BloodyRose [5k\]: Game.
BloodyRose [5k\]: S14 feels like it is on shape point?
zee [9k\]: slow
okhna [14k?\]: :))
Murayama [?\]: w strong too
Jugular [4k\]: k3
BloodyRose [5k\]: C17
xix [18k\]: n10
blue88 [15k\]: k3
shuterlee [6k\]: o4
zee [9k\]: W should invade now
]
(;W[lc]CR[lc]C[zee [9k\]: W can invade 
]
(;B[nc]CR[nc]
;W[jc]CR[jc]C[BloodyRose [5k\]: No!
wingnut [-\]: nope
BloodyRose [5k\]: :P
Nikos [18k\]: no
]
;B[ic]CR[ic]
;W[ib]CR[ib]C[Scribe [?\]: white can live easy
])
(;B[kc]CR[kc]
;W[le]CR[le]))
(;W[fc]CR[fc]TR[of][nh]C[Badduck [5d\]: d12?
kolben [2k?\]: n11
shuterlee [6k\]: okay
]
(;B[ec]CR[ec]C[BloodyRose [5k\]: B is bigger and badder
]
;W[fd]CR[fd]C[Murayama [?\]: ))
]
;B[df]CR[df]
;W[jb]CR[jb]C[BloodyRose [5k\]: No :/
rocco [?\]: k17
Murayama [?\]: like w
Nikos [18k\]: no
wholeboard [?\]: no
Jugular [4k\]: no but white is attackable
NEWS [9k\]: B
rocco [?\]: bk17
zee [9k\]: W is better
])
(;B[hc]CR[hc]C[Ordiac [9k\]: b can always take one those w corners ,right?
Murayama [?\]: dont like big moyo))
]
;W[cc]CR[cc]
;B[dc]CR[dc]
;W[cd]CR[cd]
;B[de]CR[de]
;W[db]CR[db]C[zee [9k\]: B should pincer
]
;B[eb]CR[eb]
;W[cb]CR[cb]
;B[ec]CR[ec]C[okhna [14k?\]: good for b
Murayama [?\]: w has 3 corner
]
;W[cf]CR[cf]
;B[eg]CR[eg]C[BloodyRose [5k\]: But needs 4 to make B resign ;)
zee [9k\]: big moyo for B
]))
(;W[pn]CR[pn]C[rocco [?\]: attack strong to take weak
]))
(;B[pf]CR[pf]C[Drum24 [12k\]: r15 better ?
Scribe [?\]: proper way to develope the top right corner is to play Q14 first
wholeboard [?\]: yes
okhna [14k?\]: clear
wingnut [-\]: clear
shuterlee [6k\]: yes
agui [7k\]: yes
zot [29k?\]: yep
zee [9k\]: B should do this first
BloodyRose [5k\]: yup
Nikos [18k\]: yes big moyo hard to use
]
;W[qe]CR[qe]
;B[qd]CR[qd]
;W[pg]CR[pg]C[Nikos [18k\]: well
]
;B[nd]CR[nd]C[zee [9k\]: better
wholeboard [?\]: clear
wingnut [-\]: cool
Bodo212 [15k\]: ok
Murayama [?\]: komi 6.5?
BloodyRose [5k\]: Yep!
shuterlee [6k\]: :)
blue88 [15k\]: left side: what if j17 after k17?
isshoni [13k\]: where should white play next?
NEWS [9k\]: yep
capra [8k?\]: doesn't the pincer make K16 less effective?
blue88 [15k\]: 18 i mean
zee [9k\]: where for W now?
]
(;W[]
;B[qj]CR[qj]C[Scribe [?\]: still possible invasion
])
(;W[lc]CR[lc]C[BloodyRose [5k\]: Suicide!
zee [9k\]: this is crazy
]
;B[jc]CR[jc]C[Scribe [?\]: now the top right is black
])
(;W[fc]CR[fc]
;B[hc]CR[hc]
(;W[df]CR[df]C[Murayama [?\]: N11 good for w?
])
(;W[cc]CR[cc]))
(;W[hc]CR[hc]C[zee [9k\]: better
]
(;B[fc]CR[fc]
;W[jc]CR[jc]
;B[kc]CR[kc]
;W[kb]CR[kb])
(;B[ic]CR[ic]
;W[he]CR[he]C[Stampertje [?\]: continuation?
BloodyRose [5k\]: This situation, Ming Jiu prefers this
schlemiel [10k\]: K14
AngelC [18k?\]: it allows White to escape to the center
])))))))
(;W[qp]CR[qp]
;B[cd]CR[cd]
;W[cp]CR[cp]
;B[oq]CR[oq]C[okhna [14k?\]: silence ???
]
;W[lp]CR[lp]C[zot [29k?\]: audio cut out?
rocco [?\]: no
xix [18k\]: no
zot [29k?\]: ok
Grimley [8k\]: dont be so impatien t
]
(;B[np]CR[np]C[AngelC [18k?\]: pretty good pincer there
]
;W[pn]CR[pn]
;B[qr]CR[qr]
;W[qj]CR[qj])
(;B[on]CR[on]C[rocco [?\]: r6?
]
;W[qm]CR[qm])
(;B[oo]CR[oo]C[oeillet [9k\]: q6
aitkensam [9k\]: Q6
nightfish [?\]: slow
Murayama [?\]:  i like R3 for b first
DangoMouse [-\]: p5 best here?
zee [9k\]: r7
isshoni [13k\]: q6 or r7
]
(;W[pn]CR[pn]C[agui [7k\]: q3 for w now
Jugular [4k\]: it's an odd looking one
]
;B[qq]CR[qq]
(;W[rq]CR[rq]
;B[qr]CR[qr]
;W[pp]CR[pp]
;B[op]CR[op]C[zee [9k\]: S3 is better
]
(;W[mn]CR[mn]C[rocco [?\]: black is good??
Murayama [?\]: N6 new move for me
oeillet [9k\]: n6 played at meijin92
Jugular [4k\]: m2
Tobosaku [?\]: +real
]
(;B[on]CR[on]
;W[pm]CR[pm]
;B[om]CR[om]
;W[pl]CR[pl]C[zee [9k\]: heavy
])
(;B[nm]CR[nm]
;W[pm]CR[pm]
;B[nn]CR[nn]
(;W[qi]CR[qi])
(;W[qj]CR[qj]C[Drum24 [12k\]: why not live with N3 or S2??
]
(;B[qg]CR[qg])
(;B[lr]CR[lr]C[okhna [14k?\]: wanna live small
zee [9k\]: joseki
Jugular [4k\]: yay! ms
Jugular [4k\]: m2*
]))))
(;W[qk]CR[qk]C[Jugular [4k\]: m2
]))
(;W[pp]CR[pp]
;B[pq]CR[pq]C[Tobosaku [?\]: Looks easy..but I will forget it when I encounter the situation in a rel game :)
zee [9k\]: bad
]
;W[op]CR[op]
;B[np]CR[np]
;W[no]CR[no]
;B[mo]CR[mo]
;W[nn]CR[nn]
;B[mp]CR[mp]LB[qn:A]TR[pn][lp]C[zee [9k\]: still hard for W
wingnut [-\]: trashes W M4 stone
Jugular [4k\]: but white has a high position
wrong [1d?\]: this way W loses the game
zee [9k\]: W hurt M4
Scribe [?\]: and regardless of orientation
blue88 [15k\]: why dont we just use 1 color ;)
Scribe [?\]: sometimes we do :)
]
;W[ec]CR[ec]
;B[gd]CR[gd]
;W[ee]CR[ee]
;B[df]CR[df]
;W[id]CR[id]
;B[gf]CR[gf]
;W[gc]CR[gc]
;B[fd]CR[fd]
;W[fc]CR[fc]
;B[ed]CR[ed]
;W[dc]CR[dc]
;B[cc]CR[cc]
;W[dd]CR[dd]
;B[de]CR[de]
;W[hd]CR[hd]
;B[ef]CR[ef]TR[ee][oo]C[zee [9k\]: this is joseki
Murayama [?\]: w sente
zee [9k\]: reverse color
Scribe [?\]: no color is fine
wingnut [-\]: yes
agui [7k\]: yes
Bodo212 [15k\]: yes
Scribe [?\]: must learn to see the shapes regardless of color
]))
(;W[qm]CR[qm]C[QWerner [18k\]: p7
Murayama [?\]: i like b
]
(;B[pn]CR[pn]C[agui [7k\]: r3
]
;W[qn]CR[qn]C[aitkensam [9k\]: Q6?
Scribe [?\]: Q6 sente joseki for black
Scribe [?\]: R3 gote joseki for black
Murayama [?\]: R7 is joseki?
agui [7k\]: yes
Bodo212 [15k\]: thxx
Stampertje [?\]: ok
murky [?\]: homework
wrong [1d?\]: xie xie shifu
wrong [1d?\]: homework ^_^
]
;B[qq]CR[qq]
;W[rq]CR[rq]
;B[pp]CR[pp]
;W[qo]CR[qo]
;B[qr]CR[qr]C[okhna [14k?\]: when there is a stone around k3, right?
zee [9k\]: one way
]
;W[qj]CR[qj]C[wrong [1d?\]: had guests, so missed the lesson :(((((((((((((
DangoMouse [-\]: doesn't this hurt the top right corner?
Murayama [?\]: b strong
]
(;B[lr]CR[lr])
(;B[rr]CR[rr]C[zee [9k\]: M2 not necessary
]))
(;B[qq]CR[qq]
;W[rq]CR[rq]
;B[qr]CR[qr]
;W[pp]CR[pp]
;B[op]CR[op]C[zee [9k\]: another way
]
;W[qj]CR[qj]C[BloodyRose [5k\]: When would B play this variation?
]
;B[lr]CR[lr]C[Scribe [?\]: m2 not needed may tenuki instead after sequence starting with Q6
]))
(;W[qn]CR[qn]
;B[qq]CR[qq]
(;W[rq]CR[rq]
;B[pp]CR[pp]C[zee [9k\]: game
]
;W[qo]CR[qo]
;B[qr]CR[qr]
;W[qk]CR[qk]LB[qm:B][pn:A]C[Jugular [4k\]: j3
Lilltiger [13k\]: joseki
Jugular [4k\]: well black would not want to play A now
]
;B[pn]CR[pn]
;W[qm]CR[qm]LB[qj:A]TR[qk]C[wrong [1d?\]: interesting pincer
Murayama [?\]: i see
])
(;W[pp]CR[pp]
;B[pq]CR[pq]
;W[op]CR[op]
;B[np]CR[np]C[wrong [1d?\]: M4 useless
Murayama [?\]: like b
Jugular [4k\]: why is o5 bad?
]
(;W[no]CR[no]C[mayday [10k?\]: no
]
;B[mo]CR[mo]
;W[nn]CR[nn]C[AngelC [18k?\]: this would give B the corner
]
;B[mp]CR[mp]C[shuterlee [6k\]: no
wrong [1d?\]: not really
agui [7k\]: no
Sumo [8k\]: no
zot [29k?\]: no
])
(;W[nq]CR[nq]C[Jugular [4k\]: yes
]
;B[mq]CR[mq]C[wrong [1d?\]: bu
]
;W[nr]CR[nr]
;B[mr]CR[mr]C[Jugular [4k\]: no
QWerner [18k\]: no
mayday [10k?\]: s 4
Sumo [8k\]: no
zee [9k\]: bad
]))))))
(;B[dc]CR[dc]
;W[cc]CR[cc]
;B[ec]CR[ec]
;W[cd]CR[cd]
;B[fc]CR[fc]
;W[ce]CR[ce]
;B[gb]CR[gb]
(;W[hb]CR[hb]C[wrong [1d?\]: he he, maybe mingjiu shifu can teach us chinese and kung-fu too @_@
])
(;W[gc]CR[gc]
;B[hb]CR[hb]
;W[hc]CR[hc]
;B[fa]CR[fa]
;W[ed]CR[ed]C[Murayama [?\]: ))
marmotte [-\]: my favorite joseki
]
;B[sa]CR[sa]
;W[ib]CR[ib]
;B[sb]CR[sb]
;W[ee]CR[ee]
;B[sc]CR[sc]
;W[ge]CR[ge]
;B[sd]CR[sd]
;W[ic]CR[ic]C[wrong [1d?\]: weird sequence of moves that leads to a resonable position :)))
oeillet [9k\]: top right joseki ?
schlemiel [10k\]: T line wall really powerful
wingnut [-\]: W
seidelin [8k\]: black
wrong [1d?\]: this one I remember
Halfling [8k?\]: white
goglu [-\]: tou showed us this one already.
wrong [1d?\]: it used to be for homework
Murayama [?\]: ))
Jugular [4k\]: is ko allowed?
wingnut [-\]: kill
wrong [1d?\]: no ko
Uvas [-\]: no!
HW9x9 [-\]: We18
wrong [1d?\]: there are were combinations with ko
seidelin [8k\]: no
Match1 [9k?\]: w 2 kill?
zee [9k\]: W to play
Match1 [9k?\]: D19 ^^
goglu [-\]: This is a really cool problem !
Uvas [-\]: bye
Tobosaku [?\]: thank you !
offtosea [15k\]: Thank you!
seidelin [8k\]: thank you
Match1 [9k?\]: thx
marchetto [?\]: thank you
murky [?\]: thank you, MingJiu
wrong [1d?\]: thak You shifu, Thanks to Ing foundation
lefuet [9k\]: thank you
agui [7k\]: Thank you very much
zee [9k\]: yes
shuterlee [6k\]: Thank you
okhna [14k?\]:  yes
QWerner [18k\]: jes
Halfling [8k?\]: thank you, Mingjiu :-)
Bodo212 [15k\]: thx
marchetto [?\]: yes
aitkensam [9k\]: thanks
norb [12k\]: thx
Jnaksu [?\]: Thank you! :-)
wholeboard [?\]: thank you
miku [14k\]: THANKS
Keido [15k?\]: yeah
wrong [1d?\]: we ADORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
zot [29k?\]: thanks for teaching
seidelin [8k\]: very much
agui [7k\]: yes alot
isshoni [13k\]: thx mingjiu
slumpfi [13k?\]: thx :)
QWerner [18k\]: thx alot
smuin [?\]: bye and thank u
])))