(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[3600] PW[mingjiu]PB[mingjiu]WR[7p]BR[7p]DT[2005-04-10]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[Bodo212 [15k\]: hi norb [12k\]: hello Lifespace [20k\]: hi gobasso [?\]: hi kidzzz [15k\]: hello okhna [14k\]: hi schlemiel [10k\]: Hi Gruffalo [-\]: hi yashiiro: htllo juve [23k\]: hello murky: hi Bodo212 [15k\]: I´m here Batavia [15k\]: hi redpenguin [15k\]: hi Lifespace [20k\]: yes DrGoPlayer [5k\]: yes chick [16k?\]: yes schlemiel [10k\]: yes norb [12k\]: yes nux [29k?\]: yes Bodo212 [15k\]: yes gentlewind [-\]: yes juve [23k\]: yes Tessa: yes yashiiro: yesss QWerner [18k\]: hallo Lifespace [20k\]: afternoon guojuan [5p\]: good morning Bodo212 [15k\]: good afternoon DrGoPlayer [5k\]: nei hao yashiiro: :) Geoffroy [10k?\]: good morning Kamiah [?\]: ok ] (;B[pd]CR[pd] (;W[nc]CR[nc] ;B[qf]CR[qf] ;W[pb]CR[pb] ;B[qc]CR[qc] ;W[kc]CR[kc]C[yashiiro: for sure okhna [14k\]: yes Uvas [-\]: yup schlemiel [10k\]: yes yashiiro: its gote ]) (;W[dp]CR[dp] ;B[dd]CR[dd] ;W[pp]CR[pp] ;B[jd]CR[jd] ;W[cf]CR[cf] (;B[fd]CR[fd] ;W[bd]CR[bd]C[hansb [4k\]: san ren sei fuseki ]) (;B[ch]CR[ch]C[Bodo212 [15k\]: sound is better today ! ] ;W[ef]CR[ef] ;B[fd]CR[fd]C[okhna [14k\]: no murky: d11 TheWayToGo [17k\]: d11 Gruffalo [-\]: D11 next yashiiro: B16 zee [8k\]: W lost the chance to go to san san after the B16 C17 exchange zee [8k\]: better ] (;W[bd]CR[bd]C[yashiiro: ni ren sei white san ren sei black zee [8k\]: B16 not joseki Lifespace [20k\]: c15 atman [4k\]: c17 Arkdragon [14k\]: 1 point jump Gruffalo [-\]: C17 zee [8k\]: W 3 stones are heavy andsubject to attack hansb [4k\]: white G14 first? Uvas [-\]: opposite of lite spaghetti [1k?\]: Lifespace, not flexible or easy to give up raikou [6k\]: yes groove [2k\]: clear silver2k4 [16k\]: yes Lifespace [20k\]: thx gobasso [?\]: yes Bodo212 [15k\]: ok QWerner [18k\]: jes ] (;B[ck]CR[ck]C[offtosea [16k\]: yes, thanks yashiiro: ok nutcase [1k\]: knight move ] ;W[cc]CR[cc]C[Lifespace [20k\]: w has corner now TheWayToGo [17k\]: and easy life zee [8k\]: C9 is a mistake for B schlemiel [10k\]: no more worries for W Arkdragon [14k\]: he gets corner ] ;B[cn]CR[cn]TR[ch][ck]C[QWerner [18k\]: josei = opening sequence seidelin [8k\]: heavy = difficult to defend group that you cant just give up ] ;W[fq]CR[fq]C[Rutabaga [30k?\]: ah, thank you Hu [10k\]: Joseki means a set pattern, usually in the opening and usually in the corner that is equal for both players. ] (;B[bp]CR[bp]C[hansb [4k\]: wrong choice hansb [4k\]: B4 = not urgent move zee [8k\]: b should R6 ] (;W[cq]CR[cq]C[schlemiel [10k\]: overplay for B Rutabaga [30k?\]: joseki=? yashiiro: bllack takes sente DrGoPlayer [5k\]: b4 is small and not sente zee [8k\]: instead of B4 groove [2k\]: black is very low? Amuzani [5k\]: b4 you only need of there wasn't c12 right? ] ;B[qn]CR[qn]C[hansb [4k\]: not R*? ] ;W[qf]CR[qf]C[agui [7k\]: ok QWerner [18k\]: no goood fror w Rutabaga [30k?\]: like a knight's move in chess ] (;B[nc]LB[id:A]TR[nc][jd][pd]C[Lifespace [20k\]: if b4 forces c3 then b doesn't lose much eh? zee [8k\]: O17 is bad TheWayToGo [17k\]: o16 instead zee [8k\]: It makes K16 inefficient zee [8k\]: K16 would be better at J16 nutcase [1k\]: zee our scribe here? Uvas [-\]: yes Rutabaga [30k?\]: yes Bodo212 [15k\]: yes DrGoPlayer [5k\]: o17 means that K16 should be at A wholeboard [?\]: yes QWerner [18k\]: jes agui [7k\]: yes Lifespace [20k\]: ya Rutabaga [30k?\]: in case of no audio schlemiel [10k\]: so different choice for O17 is? nutcase [1k\]: ok zee [8k\]: no I am trying to write some notes Uvas [-\]: zee for scribe! zee [8k\]: welcome to help too Rutabaga [30k?\]: k schlemiel [10k\]: cant W extend further? ] (;W[rd]CR[rd]C[hansb [4k\]: joseki move , but .... ] (;B[qc]CR[qc] ;W[qi]CR[qi]LB[nc:A][bd:D][rd:C][bp:B]C[hansb [4k\]: this is the game; up to here Gruffalo [-\]: B4 was questionable nutcase [1k\]: halo ming jiu laoshi hansb [4k\]: did we find some mistakes Uvas [-\]: no scribe? atman [4k\]: B16 seemed strange to me Lifespace [20k\]: w should have run to center in upper L instead of invade corner ElfeDeLune [?\]: B16 ? Gruffalo [-\]: B16 as well FLgator [6k\]: O17? Lifespace [20k\]: s16 hansb [4k\]: O16? hansb [4k\]: sorry Uvas [-\]: no o16 matis [22k?\]: :) hansb [4k\]: meant b16 yashiiro: there is no O16 yashiiro: ^^ nutcase [1k\]: hmm 4 mistakes nutcase [1k\]: all involving keima Lifespace [20k\]: keima? seidelin [8k\]: so r17 is a mistake to =) Rutabaga [30k?\]: horse's move Weasel [6k\]: who played this game? ]) (;B[qh]CR[qh]C[nutcase [1k\]: w R10 better... ] ;W[qc]CR[qc] ;B[pf]CR[pf] ;W[qe]CR[qe]C[Lifespace [20k\]: q15 ] ;B[pg]CR[pg])) (;W[qi]CR[qi]C[nutcase [1k\]: S16 too greedy for land ])) (;B[qh]CR[qh]C[schlemiel [10k\]: Q14? DrGoPlayer [5k\]: r11 for w ] ;W[qc]CR[qc]C[Lifespace [20k\]: r15 instead of o16? ] ;B[pc]CR[pc] ;W[qd]CR[qd] ;B[pe]CR[pe] ;W[rf]CR[rf]C[Arkdragon [14k\]: huge moyo for b ] ;B[og]CR[og]C[DrGoPlayer [5k\]: this is better choice for b zee [8k\]: better for B ])) (;W[qf]CR[qf]C[zee [8k\]: B4 not urgent ])) (;B[qn]CR[qn])) (;B[cc]CR[cc]TR[bd][cf][ef]C[Dakre [4k\]: just take the corner with c17 hansb [4k\]: now G14?! hansb [4k\]: an dthen pincer? Lifespace [20k\]: what is meant by 'heavy'? ] (;W[di]CR[di] ;B[ci]CR[ci] ;W[dj]CR[dj]C[Gruffalo [-\]: bad exchange for white ] ;B[dh]CR[dh]C[zee [8k\]: B must C17 ] ;W[eh]CR[eh] ;B[cj]CR[cj] ;W[dk]CR[dk] ;B[cl]CR[cl]C[atman [4k\]: leaves no alternative in the corner ] ;W[em]CR[em]C[seidelin [8k\]: he lost corner invasion? ] ;B[cm]CR[cm]LB[cc:B][bd:A]C[DrGoPlayer [5k\]: w haS lost chance to play at 3x3 Dakre [4k\]: d13 for black? yashiiro: bad raikou [6k\]: D13 possible now :\] agui [7k\]: bad for white Dakre [4k\]: 3-3 invasion not possible anymore hansb [4k\]: A B exchange is bad nutcase [1k\]: w prolly need G14 now... ]) (;W[ck]CR[ck] ;B[eh]CR[eh]C[zee [8k\]: Now B is attacking W ] ;W[gf]CR[gf] ;B[gh]CR[gh]C[zee [8k\]: W is heavier than B ]))) (;W[di]CR[di]C[Uvas [-\]: oh tea yashiiro: ok Uvas [-\]: yea zee [8k\]: This is the jpseki TheWayToGo [17k\]: c11 ] (;B[ce]CR[ce] ;W[ci]CR[ci] ;B[bf]CR[bf] ;W[cg]CR[cg] ;B[bg]CR[bg]C[zee [8k\]: F16 ] ;W[bh]CR[bh]) (;B[ci]CR[ci]C[zee [8k\]: after F4 ] ;W[dj]CR[dj] ;B[dh]CR[dh] ;W[eh]CR[eh]C[nutcase [1k\]: yes ] ;B[cj]CR[cj] ;W[dk]CR[dk] ;B[cl]CR[cl] ;W[em]CR[em] ;B[cm]CR[cm]LB[cc:B][bd:A]C[hansb [4k\]: this is also joseki nutcase [1k\]: w got half the corner anyway TheWayToGo [17k\]: B ] (;W[cc]CR[cc]C[matis [22k?\]: i don't get this W E7 hansb [4k\]: white can now livein the corner zee [8k\]: now this makes the W should not play B16 now ]) (;W[bd]CR[bd] ;B[cc]CR[cc] ;W[eg]CR[eg]) (;W[jp]CR[jp] ;B[eg]CR[eg] ;W[fg]CR[fg] ;B[dg]CR[dg] ;W[fh]CR[fh]TR[cf] ;B[df]CR[df] ;W[cc]CR[cc] ;B[cd]CR[cd] ;W[db]CR[db]))))) (;W[qf]CR[qf] ;B[nc]CR[nc] ;W[rd]CR[rd] ;B[qc]CR[qc] ;W[qi]CR[qi]C[hansb [4k\]: very easy joseki sequence chucha [21k\]: to learn raikou [6k\]: yes okhna [14k\]: yes hansb [4k\]: bur difficult to use Q [8k\]: http://senseis.xmp.net/?keima - check out senseis if you don't know a word zee [8k\]: This joseki easy to remember but not easy to use it properly QWerner [18k\]: jes Lifespace [20k\]: ya silver2k4 [16k\]: ya Arkdragon [14k\]: yes swilks [7k\]: yes agui [7k\]: yes very clear, thanks poke556 [11k\]: yes schlemiel [10k\]: application of joseki always touchy QWerner [18k\]: jup ericc [-\]: yes Rutabaga [30k?\]: yes, thank you Uvas [-\]: turnips are ranked ])) (;B[dp]CR[dp]C[Rutabaga [30k?\]: so are rutabagas :-) ] ;W[pd]CR[pd]C[Arkdragon [14k\]: when should u start to study joseki? ] ;B[cd]CR[cd]C[seidelin [8k\]: now okhna [14k\]: u >> we matis [22k?\]: :) ] ;W[pp]CR[pp] ;B[ed]CR[ed] ;W[cj]CR[cj] ;B[cl]CR[cl] ;W[cg]CR[cg] ;B[dh]CR[dh] ;W[ch]CR[ch] ;B[dj]CR[dj] ;W[di]CR[di]C[olczyk [16k\]: 11pm is a good time to start. ] ;B[ei]CR[ei]C[Arkdragon [14k\]: yes ] ;W[ci]CR[ci]C[Arkdragon [14k\]: hahahya ] ;B[dk]CR[dk] ;W[eh]CR[eh] ;B[fi]CR[fi]C[Arkdragon [14k\]: yeah no really Arkdragon [14k\]: like what kyu? ElfeDeLune [?\]: lee chang ho fuseki ^^ ] (;W[dc]CR[dc] ;B[dd]CR[dd] ;W[eg]CR[eg] (;B[gc]CR[gc]LB[dc:A][dd:B]C[guojuan [5p\]: this is another game hansb [4k\]: this game white played here first zee [8k\]: W played D17 in the game, what do you think? spaghetti [1k?\]: good for w swilks [7k\]: good for black SandSack [6k\]: bad for white kieran [13k\]: this seems to remove a ko threat agui [7k\]: it creates some aji in the corner Arkdragon [14k\]: it must be nice to be pro hopefully ill become pro when im like 20 im like 13 now tho hansb [4k\]: what about this exchange? murky: w spaghetti [1k?\]: w gets sente Lifespace [20k\]: w should have followed through or not at all spaghetti [1k?\]: g17 slow erc [4d\]: w get sente hansb [4k\]: bad for white Lifespace [20k\]: yup zee [8k\]: bad for W Lifespace [20k\]: why e13? Tuncay [11k?\]: if white does live in the corner, black has a weak group Lifespace [20k\]: instead of cutting with d16 murky: induced mistake ] (;W[cc]CR[cc] ;B[bd]CR[bd]) (;W[jq]CR[jq]C[zee [8k\]: G17 better on the bottom ] ;B[nc]CR[nc] ;W[qf]CR[qf]LB[pb:G][ne:C][og:D][qj:E][qk:F]TR[gc][jc][kc][lc][jd][kd][ld][eg]C[kieran [13k\]: L16 blue88 [15k\]: k16 nutcase [1k\]: L16 matis [22k?\]: o15 ? swilks [7k\]: 015 Lifespace [20k\]: r10? Ambivlnce [13k\]: o15 krneki [9k\]: k16 QWerner [18k\]: p15 hansb [4k\]: M16? erc [4d\]: r6 schlemiel [10k\]: R12 spingle [8k?\]: n16? Lifespace [20k\]: r10 Uvas [-\]: heh Gruffalo [-\]: one line to the right braincrash [?\]: r9 kieran [13k\]: Q18 seidelin [8k\]: r17 Dakre [4k\]: D is meant to be one space to the right i think :> Gruffalo [-\]: D should be one line to the right zee [8k\]: First need to think that W has E13 agui [7k\]: top first zee [8k\]: top not good for B to take terr Rutabaga [30k?\]: w can't get terr. bc b has g17 zee [8k\]: W cannot either because of B G17 schlemiel [10k\]: ? why not good for B to secure terr? hansb [4k\]: So R6, or J4?! spaghetti [1k?\]: wouldn't it just be better for b to play o17 at r14? zee [8k\]: So B should not play on the top ] (;B[pb]CR[pb]C[zee [8k\]: game guojuan [5p\]: becuase white has e13 stone which limited black blue88 [15k\]: too heavy okhna [14k\]: hi Scribe EkinOne [15k\]: can B seal E13? seidelin [8k\]: no agui [7k\]: no QWerner [18k\]: no ] (;W[qc]CR[qc]C[musubi [9k\]: M16? nutcase [1k\]: yes ] ;B[kc]TR[gc][kc][nc]C[nutcase [1k\]: too low... spaghetti [1k?\]: no Arkdragon [14k\]: b to focused kieran [13k\]: too low ericc [-\]: no TheWayToGo [17k\]: what about l16 instead ? hockdoong [9k?\]: no zee [8k\]: B following the joseki on top right but wrong choice because of G17 agui [7k\]: no better M16 Badduck [5d\]: m16? ]) (;W[qn]CR[qn]C[zee [8k\]: Q18 is bad ] ;B[qc]CR[qc] ;W[pj]CR[pj]TR[pb][qc]C[guojuan [5p\]: q18 is a slow move nutcase [1k\]: w N17? zee [8k\]: give W opportunity on right side ])) (;B[kd]CR[kd]) (;B[ne]CR[ne]TR[eg]C[guojuan [5p\]: this means to make territory at the top is not efficient musubi [9k\]: san san? swilks [7k\]: was black 017 bad then? ]) (;B[jd]CR[jd]C[Badduck [5d\]: q13 agui [7k\]: litle potential later ]) (;B[ld]CR[ld]) (;B[qk]CR[qk]C[zee [8k\]: B should tenuki to R9 or R6 murky: very clear SandSack [6k\]: just because e13 is l16 ineffient? guojuan [5p\]: yes raikou [6k\]: clear charon2012 [13k?\]: yes Hu [10k\]: Your lessons are very good. Tuncay [11k?\]: yes swilks [7k\]: yes offtosea [16k\]: You are doing a great job! Rutabaga [30k?\]: yes gobasso [?\]: yes guojuan [5p\]: clear arturh [12k\]: y EkinOne [15k\]: nice Bodo212 [15k\]: ok DrGoPlayer [5k\]: potential is on right side so that area is most urgent Ambivlnce [13k\]: yes Kamiah [?\]: yes silver2k4 [16k\]: clear agui [7k\]: Yes very clear , thanks ElfeDeLune [?\]: thanks swilks [7k\]: but what about black 017? Yoru [20k\]: yeah Hu [10k\]: You make fuseki concepts very understandable. nutcase [1k\]: clear, thx hockdoong [9k?\]: yes :) kieran [13k\]: can you explain the point about K16/L16 being bad again? QWerner [18k\]: f14? raikou [6k\]: yes okhna [14k\]: yes Arkdragon [14k\]: yes Kamiah [?\]: very helpful hockdoong [9k?\]: yes ]) (;B[qn]CR[qn]))) (;B[jq]CR[jq] (;W[gc]CR[gc] ;B[fb]CR[fb]) (;W[ec]CR[ec] ;B[fc]CR[fc] ;W[fb]CR[fb] ;B[gb]CR[gb]))) (;W[eg]CR[eg]C[guojuan [5p\]: Lee Chang Hao against Zhou he Yang zee [8k\]: very hard for W to live in the corner ] (;B[gc]CR[gc]C[chucha [21k\]: b16 endgame move. ] (;W[dc]CR[dc] ;B[dd]CR[dd]C[zee [8k\]: B16 is yose ]) (;W[bd]CR[bd]C[hansb [4k\]: endgame move ])) (;B[jq]CR[jq]))) (;B[rc]CR[rc] ;W[rd]CR[rd] ;B[qc]CR[qc] ;W[re]CR[re] ;B[pc]CR[pc] ;W[pd]CR[pd] ;B[ob]CR[ob] ;W[pe]CR[pe] ;B[aa]CR[aa] ;W[oc]CR[oc] ;B[ab]CR[ab] ;W[nc]CR[nc] ;B[ac]CR[ac] ;W[nb]CR[nb] ;B[oa]CR[oa]LB[qa:A][ra:D][qb:B][rb:E][sc:C]C[Gruffalo [-\]: Homework about important Basic shape. Nezumii [-\]: why black play there? Nezumii [-\]: a19,18,17 Nezumii [-\]: :P matis [22k?\]: it' npot a game :) Arkdragon [14k\]: S 19 Gruffalo [-\]: 2 ways to make ko Klops [12k\]: 3 Arkdragon [14k\]: R 19 seidelin [8k\]: 1 chucha [21k\]: r19 laolao: one way by ko :) spaghetti [1k?\]: 1? EkinOne [15k\]: 2 Gruffalo [-\]: R19 fails !!! offtosea [16k\]: s18 spaghetti [1k?\]: only 1 first move? TheWayToGo [17k\]: is there only one way to go ? krneki [9k\]: s18? hockdoong [9k?\]: 3 nutcase [1k\]: ko? kidzzz [15k\]: 2 Jakobicek [12k\]: 2 Jakobicek [12k\]: 3? Klops [12k\]: R19 nutcase [1k\]: 2 ways, R18 and T17 arturh [12k\]: R19 S19 S18 Jakobicek [12k\]: t17 s19 and r19 nutcase [1k\]: R19 nutcase [1k\]: or T17 den S19? krneki [9k\]: s18 Arkdragon [14k\]: s 19 silver2k4 [16k\]: s 19 Nezumii [-\]: s18! spaghetti [1k?\]: s18 krneki [9k\]: s188? Djeki [15k\]: s18 nutcase [1k\]: lol Jakobicek [12k\]: yes order of t17 and s19 reversible Arkdragon [14k\]: 5 Uvas [-\]: 5 nutcase [1k\]: all the points r covered Rutabaga [30k?\]: 5 Dakre [4k\]: white can not miss the ko ;) Gruffalo [-\]: C and E works I think nutcase [1k\]: A n C Gruffalo [-\]: A fails Klops [12k\]: ce&a longlong [1k\]: S,18 Uvas [-\]: c! ] (;W[qa]CR[qa]C[spaghetti [1k?\]: yeah not A silver2k4 [16k\]: C works? spaghetti [1k?\]: s19 Gruffalo [-\]: no krneki [9k\]: s19 Arkdragon [14k\]: symetry Badduck [5d\]: hm s19? ] (;B[qb]CR[qb]C[nutcase [1k\]: no stone at R16, tricky ] ;W[ra]CR[ra]C[Dakre [4k\]: hehe ]) (;B[ra]CR[ra] ;W[rb]CR[rb]C[nutcase [1k\]: b S19 ] ;B[qb]CR[qb] ;W[sa]CR[sa] ;B[sc]CR[sc] (;W[qd]CR[qd] ;B[sb]CR[sb]) (;W[na]CR[na]C[nutcase [1k\]: oh ] ;B[sb]CR[sb]C[nutcase [1k\]: i c ]))) (;W[qb]CR[qb]C[nutcase [1k\]: C the best krneki [9k\]: yes ] ;B[rb]CR[rb]C[krneki [9k\]: :( ] (;W[sc]CR[sc]C[nutcase [1k\]: b alive ] ;B[qa]CR[qa]) (;W[ra]CR[ra]C[Tuncay [11k?\]: r19 ] ;B[qa]CR[qa] ;W[pa]CR[pa]C[agui [7k\]: r19 waribashi [13k\]: r19 ] ;B[pb]CR[pb] ;W[qa]CR[qa] ;B[sc]CR[sc])) (;W[ra]CR[ra]C[Uvas [-\]: c nutcase [1k\]: same ] ;B[qa]CR[qa]C[kieran [13k\]: S18 ] ;W[qb]CR[qb] ;B[rb]CR[rb]) (;W[sc]CR[sc]C[nutcase [1k\]: T17 only way krneki [9k\]: s18 nigulh [23k\]: why dead? kieran [13k\]: B S18 matis [22k?\]: ko? where the hell was this ko ] ;B[sb]CR[sb]C[nutcase [1k\]: s Jakobicek [12k\]: s19 spaghetti [1k?\]: s19 TheWayToGo [17k\]: R19 nutcase [1k\]: S19 silver2k4 [16k\]: s18 kieran [13k\]: S18 agui [7k\]: s18 kyrilin [16k\]: cut hockdoong [9k?\]: s17 hansb [4k\]: S19 krneki [9k\]: s18 Weasel [6k\]: s18 offtosea [16k\]: s19 Klops [12k\]: s18 ] ;W[ra]CR[ra]C[nutcase [1k\]: lol herwoo [13k\]: S19 ] (;B[qa]CR[qa] ;W[qb]CR[qb] ;B[pb]CR[pb]) (;B[qb]CR[qb]C[nutcase [1k\]: ko for sure ] ;W[qa]CR[qa]C[nutcase [1k\]: dead this way ])) (;W[rb]CR[rb]C[nutcase [1k\]: oh, C n E nutcase [1k\]: cool hockdoong [9k?\]: :) EkinOne [15k\]: :) spaghetti [1k?\]: matis, be more polite please nutcase [1k\]: who got it right? okhna [14k\]: isnt there a way to kill without ko matis [22k?\]: sorry zee [8k\]: T17 and S18 lead to Ko Gruffalo [-\]: this shape occurs often in real games Uvas [-\]: ok Uvas [-\]: thank you okhna [14k\]: thank you wingnut [-\]: thx guojuan [5p\]: I am here wholeboard [?\]: thanks musubi [9k\]: thank you Jakobicek [12k\]: thx kieran [13k\]: thanks Kamiah [?\]: thank you Nezumii [-\]: ty hockdoong [9k?\]: thanks!! charon2012 [13k?\]: thanks Arkdragon [14k\]: thx offtosea [16k\]: Thanks mingjiu! silver2k4 [16k\]: thank you matis [22k?\]: thanks Tessa: thanks gobasso [?\]: thanks spqr [8k\]: thx Ameise [9k?\]: thanks Yoru [20k\]: thanks EkinOne [15k\]: thank you kidzzz [15k\]: thanks spaghetti [1k?\]: thanks mingjiu blueplayer [19k\]: thank you! evilGOer [18k?\]: thanks Tuncay [11k?\]: thank you Lifespace [20k\]: thx nux [29k?\]: thanks juve [23k\]: thx, mingjiu Q [8k\]: good lesson, thanks Ruutana [17k\]: Thank you! Isumi81 [18k\]: thanks spingle [8k?\]: thankyou poke556 [11k\]: thaks seidelin [8k\]: thx hansili [10k\]: thak you Lifespace [20k\]: cheers ivanho [13k\]: thank you arturh [12k\]: thanks raikou [6k\]: thank you QWerner [18k\]: thx alot jarl [10k\]: thankyou sharr [9k\]: thank you C0nd0r [14k\]: thx saruman [-\]: thanks au2 [2k\]: thank you bonobo03 [8k?\]: thanks starsurfer [-\]: thx redpenguin [15k\]: thank you Klops [12k\]: thanks chucha [21k\]: thank you lao shi Isumi81 [18k\]: see u ! R4ul [19k\]: thanks guojuan [5p\]: thanks to mingjiu nutcase [1k\]: thx, nice problem waribashi [13k\]: thank you Arkdragon [14k\]: thx hockdoong [9k?\]: bye bye blueplayer [19k\]: bye Arkdragon [14k\]: thx Ermac [9k\]: thank you krneki [9k\]: thx EkinOne [15k\]: lol Arkdragon [14k\]: thx Rutabaga [30k?\]: xie xie, xiao sheng Arkdragon [14k\]: thx au2 [2k\]: THANKS TO ING FOUNDATION Arkdragon [14k\]: thx ferryeva [10k\]: thx Badduck [5d\]: thank you Q [8k\]: thanks, bye darki [13k?\]: thank you Ines [-\]: thx QWerner [18k\]: grate lesson Arkdragon [14k\]: thx Arkdragon [14k\]: thx spingle [8k?\]: lol thankyou for talking juve [23k\]: cu Uvas [-\]: homework! 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