(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1650]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[guojuan]PB[guojuan]WR[5p]BR[5p]DT[2005-04-11]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[murky: Hello, LaoShi
Uvas [-\]: hi
QuanSiMenh [10k\]: hi
EkinOne [14k\]: hihi
KarateKid [9k\]: hola a tados ^^
QWerner [18k\]: hallo
Nezumii [7k?\]: how much money does pro players make a month?
]
(;B[pd]CR[pd]BL[1792]
;W[pp]CR[pp]WL[1794.003]
;B[cd]CR[cd]BL[1788.547]
(;W[ed]CR[ed]WL[1790.75]C[Scribe [?\]: white chooses to attack immediately
goglu [-\]: sente
Pempu [2k\]: I'd pincer 
krneki [9k\]: D3 like shusaku!
rzhao [4k\]: take corner
goglu [-\]: empty corner
kimba [7k\]: play a joseki to get sente
Scribe [?\]: important for black to end with sente to take the remaining open corner
EkinOne [14k\]: take the empty corner
Nikos [18k\]: G16 
Scribe [?\]: black must choose joseki that results in black sente
]
(;B[hd]CR[hd]BL[1776.766]
;W[ef]CR[ef]WL[1788.083]C[kimba [7k\]: ciao
]
;B[cg]CR[cg]BL[1765.509]
(;W[eh]CR[eh]WL[1786.008]
;B[di]CR[di]BL[1757.03]
;W[jc]CR[jc]WL[1783.432]
(;B[ie]CR[ie]BL[1750.005]TR[jc][ed][hd]C[EkinOne [14k\]: clear **
swilks [7k\]: what if white pinches at L16?
agui [7k\]: yes
zee [8k\]: J15 is very good here
zee [8k\]: to let W j15 is not good for B
Scribe [?\]: jump to the outside or keima by black are both cuttable
]
(;W[je]CR[je]WL[1781.989]
;B[jf]CR[jf]BL[1747.211]
;W[jd]CR[jd]WL[1780.505]
;B[ig]CR[ig]BL[1729.318]
;W[hc]CR[hc]WL[1778.051]
;B[gc]CR[gc]BL[1725.863]
;W[gd]CR[gd]WL[1775.765]
;B[fd]CR[fd]BL[1714.666]
;W[ge]CR[ge]WL[1772.744]
;B[ec]CR[ec]BL[1712.479]
;W[fe]CR[fe]WL[1770.266]
;B[fc]CR[fc]BL[1710.687]C[Scribe [?\]: corner is now big territory and white has two weak groups
EmTom [18k?\]: yeah looks tasty
EkinOne [14k\]: lol
zee [8k\]: this is good for B
agui [7k\]: yes very clear
Bodo212 [14k\]: yes
QWerner [18k\]: ok
DrGoPlayer [5k\]: yes
EkinOne [14k\]: Y E S S S S
juve [21k\]: yes clear
Zagga [11k\]: yes :)
isshoni [13k\]: ok
tibra [13k?\]: yes
goyo [?\]: yes
poke556 [10k\]: yes
nutcase [1k\]: yep
pugh [15k\]: yes
kaeleer [16k\]: yes\\\\
tubro [28k?\]: yeah
EmTom [18k?\]: perfectly clear
ibo2go [15k\]: yes very clear
kimba [7k\]: ok
QuanSiMenh [10k\]: clear
kyrilin [16k\]: getting hungry
Scribe [?\]: this black at j15 is much better than white on both sides....none of the three are alive but black has only one group to take care of, white much help two groups
abbadan [?\]: cery
]
;W[cf]CR[cf]WL[1767.629]
(;B[dg]CR[dg]BL[1695.494]C[Scribe [?\]: very good move at d13
]
;W[ce]CR[ce]WL[1751.68]
;B[dd]CR[dd]BL[1672.301]C[Scribe [?\]: black d13 prevents eye formation
]
;W[eg]CR[eg]WL[1744.577]C[ibo2go [15k\]: should black take lower left himself?
Scribe [?\]: white if fighting blindly
DrGoPlayer [5k\]: w fighting from 2 weak groups
]
;B[ei]CR[ei]BL[1667.87]
;W[gh]CR[gh]WL[1739.702]
;B[hi]CR[hi]BL[1654.942]
;W[gi]CR[gi]WL[1736.151]
;B[hj]CR[hj]BL[1627.031]
;W[gj]CR[gj]WL[1733.964]
;B[hk]CR[hk]BL[1623.561]
;W[gk]CR[gk]WL[1731.732]
;B[gl]CR[gl]BL[1621.562]C[Scribe [?\]: white is busy can not take big point of the empty corner
]
;W[hh]CR[hh]WL[1729.529]
;B[ih]CR[ih]BL[1619.927]
;W[dh]CR[dh]WL[1722.859]
;B[ch]CR[ch]BL[1617.155]
;W[fl]CR[fl]WL[1716.899]
;B[fk]CR[fk]BL[1601.02]
;W[ek]CR[ek]WL[1714.656]
;B[fj]CR[fj]BL[1567.223]
;W[fi]CR[fi]WL[1711.275]
;B[cj]CR[cj]BL[1553.01]
;W[ej]CR[ej]WL[1709.05]
;B[mc]CR[mc]BL[1537.292]C[Scribe [?\]: skipping to shape issue
]
;W[me]CR[me]WL[1704.208]
;B[mg]CR[mg]BL[1525.098]
(;W[oe]CR[oe]WL[1697.744]C[Zagga [11k\]: P16 ?
agui [7k\]: M15
pugh [15k\]: q15
isshoni [13k\]: q15?
EkinOne [14k\]: R14??
Grimley [8k\]: r16?
blue88 [15k\]: d4
PeterL [-\]: p17 ?
QWerner [18k\]: p16
murky: n16
nutcase [1k\]: P13
tubro [28k?\]: q14
Scribe [?\]: black attacks white top, takeing base then covering from outside forcing white to keep escaping
Harriman [3k\]: q15
ibo2go [15k\]: q15 
ivanho [12k\]: O16?
Arturas [3k\]: P13 
QuanSiMenh [10k\]: p13
goyo [?\]: r16
tidbit [25k\]: R17
Grimley [8k\]: r16
Scribe [?\]: black q15 is pushing from behind, helps white
zee [8k\]: Q15 helps W
]
(;B[pe]CR[pe]BL[1515.567]C[npk196 [13k\]: R14
vince [6k\]: m15
Scribe [?\]: even though blacked played back toward the white group, black is still walking ahead by playing p16 in place of q15
agui [7k\]: yes
]
(;W[of]CR[of]WL[1694.776]
(;B[qg]CR[qg]BL[1508.447]
;W[nc]CR[nc]WL[1690.291]
;B[oc]CR[oc]BL[1487.311]
;W[nb]CR[nb]WL[1686.589]
;B[nd]CR[nd]BL[1478.958]
;W[od]CR[od]WL[1684.831]
;B[md]CR[md]BL[1476.649]
;W[ob]CR[ob]WL[1682.836]
;B[pc]CR[pc]BL[1465.906]
;W[mb]CR[mb]WL[1677.807]
;B[le]CR[le]BL[1447.973]
;W[mf]CR[mf]WL[1675.409]
;B[lf]CR[lf]BL[1444.675]
;W[ld]CR[ld]WL[1673.541]
;B[lc]CR[lc]BL[1440.524]
;W[lb]CR[lb]WL[1656.016]
;B[kd]CR[kd]BL[1436.302]
;W[oh]CR[oh]WL[1653.853]
;B[hb]CR[hb]BL[1413.087]
;W[ic]CR[ic]WL[1649.529]
;B[id]CR[id]BL[1407.193]
;W[hf]CR[hf]WL[1647.203]
;B[if]CR[if]BL[1404.77]
;W[ib]CR[ib]WL[1645.192]
;B[ng]CR[ng]BL[1386.535]
;W[og]CR[og]WL[1642.536]
;B[oj]CR[oj]BL[1382.779]
;W[qh]CR[qh]WL[1638.483]
;B[rg]CR[rg]BL[1373.139]
;W[rh]CR[rh]WL[1636.322]
;B[qj]CR[qj]BL[1357.77]
;W[ni]CR[ni]WL[1632.592]
;B[nj]CR[nj]BL[1354.963]
;W[mi]CR[mi]WL[1630.395]
;B[lk]CR[lk]BL[1347.802]
;W[rj]CR[rj]WL[1627.776]
;B[rk]CR[rk]BL[1345.151]
;W[qi]CR[qi]WL[1623.701]
;B[qk]CR[qk]BL[1340.015]
;W[pb]CR[pb]WL[1620.286]
;B[qb]CR[qb]BL[1335.687]
;W[rb]CR[rb]WL[1618.547]
;B[qc]CR[qc]BL[1310.265]
;W[rf]CR[rf]WL[1609.296]
;B[qf]CR[qf]BL[1262.364]
;W[re]CR[re]WL[1605.336]
;B[sh]CR[sh]BL[1258.119]
;W[si]CR[si]WL[1603.061]
;B[sg]CR[sg]BL[1256.479]
;W[qa]CR[qa]WL[1595.566]
;B[rc]CR[rc]BL[1249.255]
;W[oi]CR[oi]WL[1588.696]
;B[pa]CR[pa]BL[1243.136]
;W[ra]CR[ra]WL[1586.083]
;B[sb]CR[sb]BL[1239.144]
;W[oa]CR[oa]WL[1584.125]
;B[rd]CR[rd]BL[1209.563]
;W[qe]CR[qe]WL[1579.905]
;B[se]CR[se]BL[1203.072]
;W[sc]CR[sc]WL[1576.942]
;B[pf]CR[pf]BL[1193.52]
;W[pg]CR[pg]WL[1573.728]
;B[pi]CR[pi]BL[1179.456]
;W[ph]CR[ph]WL[1568.614]
;B[pj]CR[pj]BL[1168.349]
;W[ki]CR[ki]WL[1558.677]
;B[jj]CR[jj]BL[1156.114]
;W[kg]CR[kg]WL[1554.265]
;B[lg]CR[lg]BL[1133.974]
;W[mj]CR[mj]WL[1550.863]
;B[mk]CR[mk]BL[1128.17]
;W[kj]CR[kj]WL[1549.004]
;B[ke]CR[ke]BL[1099.618]
;W[kk]CR[kk]WL[1543.38]
;B[kb]CR[kb]BL[1090.733]
;W[gb]CR[gb]WL[1521.568]
;B[kc]CR[kc]BL[1065.284]
;W[fb]CR[fb]WL[1517.05]
;B[eb]CR[eb]BL[1057.978]
;W[ha]CR[ha]WL[1514.588]
;B[ja]CR[ja]BL[1055.112]
;W[fa]CR[fa]WL[1494.598]
;B[ia]CR[ia]BL[1050.822]
;W[db]CR[db]WL[1485.656]
;B[dc]CR[dc]BL[1028.3]
;W[cb]CR[cb]WL[1483.274]
;B[ea]CR[ea]BL[1021.072]
;W[bd]CR[bd]WL[1480.546]
;B[bc]CR[bc]BL[1016.343]
;W[be]CR[be]WL[1476.286]
;B[bb]CR[bb]BL[1004.799]
;W[de]CR[de]WL[1473.432]
;B[ee]CR[ee]BL[996.44]
;W[kl]CR[kl]WL[1469.67]
;B[qn]CR[qn]BL[977.692]
;W[ed]CR[ed]WL[1465.073]
;B[cc]CR[cc]BL[971.687]
;W[ro]CR[ro]WL[1459.619]
;B[qo]CR[qo]BL[963.606]
;W[qp]CR[qp]WL[1457.759]
;B[rn]CR[rn]BL[961.929]
;W[no]CR[no]WL[1455.706]
;B[mn]CR[mn]BL[952.817]
;W[kn]CR[kn]WL[1451.822]
;B[mo]CR[mo]BL[950.023]
;W[np]CR[np]WL[1449.368]
;B[mp]CR[mp]BL[947.247]
;W[nl]CR[nl]WL[1447.056]
;B[ml]CR[ml]BL[939.58]
;W[nn]CR[nn]WL[1444.615]
;B[nm]CR[nm]BL[936.203]
;W[om]CR[om]WL[1442.594]
;B[mm]CR[mm]BL[933.854]
;W[ol]CR[ol]WL[1440.75]
;B[nk]CR[nk]BL[931.898]
;W[rp]CR[rp]WL[1438.108]
;B[jm]CR[jm]BL[925.369]
;W[km]CR[km]WL[1433.547]
;B[jp]CR[jp]BL[920.88]
;W[jn]CR[jn]WL[1431.38]
;B[hp]CR[hp]BL[910.163]
;W[hl]CR[hl]WL[1427.979]
;B[gm]CR[gm]BL[895.499]
;W[il]CR[il]WL[1425.505]
;B[hn]CR[hn]BL[866.952]
;W[ik]CR[ik]WL[1416.141]
;B[ii]CR[ii]BL[859.442]
;W[kp]CR[kp]WL[1412.723]
;B[kq]CR[kq]BL[855.552]
;W[jq]CR[jq]WL[1410.067]
;B[ko]CR[ko]BL[835.184]
;W[ip]CR[ip]WL[1406.609]
;B[lp]CR[lp]BL[826.13]
;W[jo]CR[jo]WL[1404.761]
;B[kp]CR[kp]BL[823.164]
;W[ho]CR[ho]WL[1393.302]
;B[go]CR[go]BL[820.502]
;W[io]CR[io]WL[1391.409]
;B[hq]CR[hq]BL[810.609]
;W[iq]CR[iq]WL[1388.525]
;B[hr]CR[hr]BL[798.908]
;W[fp]CR[fp]WL[1380.769]
;B[gp]CR[gp]BL[794.856]
;W[kr]CR[kr]WL[1378.77]
;B[lr]CR[lr]BL[791.606]
;W[fn]CR[fn]WL[1376]
;B[gn]CR[gn]BL[782.893]
;W[fq]CR[fq]WL[1373.634]
;B[fo]CR[fo]BL[765.145]
;W[eo]CR[eo]WL[1370.311]
;B[en]CR[en]BL[758.481]
;W[do]CR[do]WL[1368.437]
;B[fm]CR[fm]BL[748.335]
;W[dm]CR[dm]WL[1366.437]
;B[dn]CR[dn]BL[744.439]
;W[cn]CR[cn]WL[1364.54]
;B[co]CR[co]BL[725.973]
;W[em]CR[em]WL[1362.467]
;B[ep]CR[ep]BL[715.861]
;W[dp]CR[dp]WL[1359.312]
;B[eq]CR[eq]BL[713.921]
;W[dq]CR[dq]WL[1351.437]
;B[er]CR[er]BL[711.096]
;W[fn]CR[fn]WL[1349.114]
;B[dr]CR[dr]BL[707.359]
;W[cr]CR[cr]WL[1346.805]
;B[fr]CR[fr]BL[688.617]
;W[ir]CR[ir]WL[1332.24]
;B[nr]CR[nr]BL[669.45]
;W[ls]CR[ls]WL[1327.961]
;B[mr]CR[mr]BL[664.124]
;W[is]CR[is]WL[1324.723]
;B[im]CR[im]BL[648.767]
;W[qm]CR[qm]WL[1306.478]
;B[rm]CR[rm]BL[642.729]
;W[ql]CR[ql]WL[1304.286]
;B[rl]CR[rl]BL[637.763]
;W[oq]CR[oq]WL[1299.505]
;B[or]CR[or]BL[632.544]
;W[pr]CR[pr]WL[1297.302]
;B[ms]CR[ms]BL[628.241]
;W[ks]CR[ks]WL[1294.758]
;B[lj]CR[lj]BL[613.564]
;W[li]CR[li]WL[1290.849]
;B[cl]CR[cl]BL[599.416])
(;B[od]CR[od]
(;W[oh]CR[oh])
(;W[pf]CR[pf]
;B[qf]CR[qf]
;W[qg]CR[qg]C[zee [8k\]: don't push from behind
]
;B[rf]CR[rf])))
(;W[nc]CR[nc]))
(;B[od]TR[od][oe]SQ[pd]C[Scribe [?\]: black p16 connects black, defends the corner, black is walking ahead here
zee [8k\]: Here W is outside and is faster
Scribe [?\]: white is getting stronger and is outside, white walked much faster after black q15
swilks [7k\]: what is anticipated continuation from here? 
]
(;W[lc]CR[lc]C[agui [7k\]: would M15 work ?
]
;B[lb]CR[lb]
;W[mb]CR[mb]
;B[nb]CR[nb]
;W[md]CR[md])
(;W[pe]CR[pe]
;B[ld]CR[ld]C[zee [8k\]: not good for W
]
;W[le]CR[le]
;B[ke]CR[ke]
;W[kd]CR[kd]
;B[kf]CR[kf]
;W[nc]CR[nc]
;B[nd]CR[nd]
;W[md]CR[md]
;B[lc]CR[lc]
;W[nb]CR[nb]
;B[ne]CR[ne])))
(;W[lc]CR[lc]C[zee [8k\]: W should make eyes here
zee [8k\]: instead of running out
DrGoPlayer [5k\]: we can ask other students after lecture also
]))
(;B[bf]CR[bf]
;W[dg]CR[dg]
;B[ch]CR[ch]
;W[ce]CR[ce]
;B[be]CR[be]
;W[dd]CR[dd]
;B[dc]CR[dc]
;W[cc]CR[cc]
;B[bd]CR[bd]C[EmTom [18k?\]: sorry to interupt :) which one is your student? :)
]
;W[de]CR[de]C[Scribe [?\]: now white is settled on one side
]))
(;W[hc]CR[hc]
;B[gc]CR[gc]
;W[gd]CR[gd]
;B[ic]CR[ic]C[agui [7k\]: yes
]
;W[hb]CR[hb]C[Scribe [?\]: black kosumi is very good
pugh [15k\]: yes
EkinOne [14k\]: clera
]
;B[ib]CR[ib]C[Scribe [?\]: splits white stones on the top
QWerner [18k\]: jes
korppi [15k\]: yes
DrGoPlayer [5k\]: clear
kyrilin [16k\]: yes
Scribe [?\]: prevents the white cut at j16
swilks [7k\]: yes
juve [21k\]: yes
spingle [8k?\]: yeah, great example
Bodo212 [14k\]: yes
])
(;W[hb]TR[hb][ed]C[Scribe [?\]: one stone low, one stone high, different stone in the middle, kosumi from middle stone is very good, splits  and walks to the center
zee [8k\]: it cuts W and walks to center
]
;B[gc]CR[gc]
;W[gb]CR[gb]
;B[fc]CR[fc]))
(;B[hf]CR[hf]C[Scribe [?\]: this white attack is unwise, there is still and empty corner
Scribe [?\]: jump toward the edge results in black being covered from the outside by white
]
;W[hc]CR[hc]
;B[gc]CR[gc]
;W[gd]CR[gd]
;B[ic]CR[ic]
;W[hb]CR[hb]
;B[ib]CR[ib]
;W[id]CR[id])
(;B[je]CR[je]
;W[hc]CR[hc]
;B[gc]CR[gc]
;W[gd]CR[gd]
;B[ic]CR[ic]
;W[hb]CR[hb]
;B[ib]CR[ib]
;W[id]CR[id])
(;B[hb]CR[hb]
;W[ie]CR[ie]C[Wook [-\]: thats a "please seal me in" move :)
]))
(;W[ep]CR[ep]))
(;B[ec]CR[ec]
;W[fc]CR[fc]
;B[dc]CR[dc]
(;W[dp]CR[dp])
(;W[gd]CR[gd]
;B[cf]CR[cf]
;W[kc]CR[kc]
;B[dq]CR[dq]C[Bodo212 [14k\]: clear
])))
(;W[dp]CR[dp]C[Scribe [?\]: normal to take empty corner
]
(;B[cn]CR[cn])
(;B[id]CR[id]C[zee [8k\]: Normally W takes empty corner
])))
(;AW[pb][qb][nc][qc][dd][qd][df][qf][qg][dj][dn][dp]AB[ob][fc][oc][pc][jd][pd][pe][pj][np][pp][fq][jq]TR[ob][oc][pc][jd][pd][pe]C[KarateKid [9k\]: lol
DrGoPlayer [5k\]: not enough
EmTom [18k?\]: nezumii be nice ;)
QuanSiMenh [10k\]: lol, that's a crude question
poke556 [10k\]: nezumii this qn is out of scope
Ambivlnce [13k\]: Less than we'd want them too.
Nezumii [7k?\]: so they poor?
zee [8k\]: B to play
wingnut [-\]: *rolls eyes*
Scribe [?\]: Black to play problem
nutcase [1k\]: B
EkinOne [14k\]: B defend
goyo [?\]: c
Batavia [15k\]: C
ratata [4k\]: B
kimba [7k\]: B
ibo2go [15k\]: C
npk196 [13k\]: C
agui [7k\]: B
pugh [15k\]: A
blueplayer [18k\]: C
Nezumii [7k?\]: D
Flux [-\]: C
rakdver [14k\]: c
Bodo212 [14k\]: C
ihgo [4k\]: C
abbadan [?\]: E
Zagga [11k\]: B to avoid problems
blue88 [15k\]: b
QWerner [18k\]: a
tidbit [25k\]: C
Ambivlnce [13k\]: b
GothamST [?\]: c
kyrilin [16k\]: b
neoRpgamer [8k?\]: c
Nanoc [1k\]: A
Syuvin [23k?\]: C
tubro [28k?\]: C
lefuet [9k\]: B
krneki [9k\]: c
chucha [20k\]: A
au2 [2k\]: C
Sika [16k\]: B
ivanho [12k\]: C
olczyk [16k\]: D
ted [19k?\]: A
Nezumii [7k?\]: D!
rzhao [4k\]: a
Bodo212 [14k\]: urgent fist
murky: E
abbadan [?\]: E
Keido [13k\]: C
Florian [7k\]: c
Nikos [18k\]: b
Djeki [14k\]: A 
neoRpgamer [8k?\]: b
Zagga [11k\]: O18 
swilks [7k\]: o15
Scribe [?\]: The black shape in the top right is not strong
murky: bec R13
Hu [10k\]: Overconcentrated.
EkinOne [14k\]: becoz of that one white stone
olczyk [16k\]: damezamurai
pugh [15k\]: empty triangle
QWerner [18k\]: no mojo?
nutcase [1k\]: w got O18
kyrilin [16k\]: because they can be cut
chucha [20k\]: no eye.
juve [21k\]: heavy
Nezumii [7k?\]: heavy
Nanoc [1k\]: o18
au2 [2k\]: w has O18
agui [7k\]: white can sorround them
rhubarb [6k\]: liberties
pugh [15k\]: inefficient
tubro [28k?\]: no 5 ikken-tobi
Nikos [18k\]: far from support
DrGoPlayer [5k\]: then o14 after o18
ratata [4k\]: few liberties
wingnut [-\]: white is out
lefuet [9k\]: few liberties no eyes
zee [8k\]: K5 too far
okhna [14k\]: K16
zee [8k\]: B should O16
Scribe [?\]: black must play o16 to take control of the white stone....k16 is too far away
Batavia [15k\]: thank you
kimba [7k\]: thx a lot
isshoni [13k\]: thank you very much guo juan
][KarateKid [9k\]: lol
DrGoPlayer [5k\]: not enough
EmTom [18k?\]: nezumii be nice ;)
QuanSiMenh [10k\]: lol, that's a crude question
poke556 [10k\]: nezumii this qn is out of scope
Ambivlnce [13k\]: Less than we'd want them too.
Nezumii [7k?\]: so they poor?
zee [8k\]: B to play
wingnut [-\]: *rolls eyes*
Scribe [?\]: Black to play problem
nutcase [1k\]: B
EkinOne [14k\]: B defend
goyo [?\]: c
Batavia [15k\]: C
ratata [4k\]: B
kimba [7k\]: B
ibo2go [15k\]: C
npk196 [13k\]: C
agui [7k\]: B
pugh [15k\]: A
blueplayer [18k\]: C
Nezumii [7k?\]: D
Flux [-\]: C
rakdver [14k\]: c
Bodo212 [14k\]: C
ihgo [4k\]: C
abbadan [?\]: E
Zagga [11k\]: B to avoid problems
blue88 [15k\]: b
QWerner [18k\]: a
tidbit [25k\]: C
Ambivlnce [13k\]: b
GothamST [?\]: c
kyrilin [16k\]: b
neoRpgamer [8k?\]: c
Nanoc [1k\]: A
Syuvin [23k?\]: C
tubro [28k?\]: C
lefuet [9k\]: B
krneki [9k\]: c
chucha [20k\]: A
au2 [2k\]: C
Sika [16k\]: B
ivanho [12k\]: C
olczyk [16k\]: D
ted [19k?\]: A
Nezumii [7k?\]: D!
rzhao [4k\]: a
Bodo212 [14k\]: urgent fist
murky: E
abbadan [?\]: E
Keido [13k\]: C
Florian [7k\]: c
Nikos [18k\]: b
Djeki [14k\]: A 
][KarateKid [9k\]: lol
DrGoPlayer [5k\]: not enough
EmTom [18k?\]: nezumii be nice ;)
QuanSiMenh [10k\]: lol, that's a crude question
poke556 [10k\]: nezumii this qn is out of scope
Ambivlnce [13k\]: Less than we'd want them too.
Nezumii [7k?\]: so they poor?
zee [8k\]: B to play
wingnut [-\]: *rolls eyes*
Scribe [?\]: Black to play problem
nutcase [1k\]: B
EkinOne [14k\]: B defend
goyo [?\]: c
Batavia [15k\]: C
ratata [4k\]: B
kimba [7k\]: B
ibo2go [15k\]: C
npk196 [13k\]: C
agui [7k\]: B
pugh [15k\]: A
blueplayer [18k\]: C
Nezumii [7k?\]: D
Flux [-\]: C
rakdver [14k\]: c
Bodo212 [14k\]: C
ihgo [4k\]: C
abbadan [?\]: E
Zagga [11k\]: B to avoid problems
blue88 [15k\]: b
QWerner [18k\]: a
tidbit [25k\]: C
Ambivlnce [13k\]: b
GothamST [?\]: c
kyrilin [16k\]: b
neoRpgamer [8k?\]: c
Nanoc [1k\]: A
Syuvin [23k?\]: C
tubro [28k?\]: C
lefuet [9k\]: B
krneki [9k\]: c
chucha [20k\]: A
au2 [2k\]: C
Sika [16k\]: B
ivanho [12k\]: C
olczyk [16k\]: D
ted [19k?\]: A
Nezumii [7k?\]: D!
rzhao [4k\]: a
Bodo212 [14k\]: urgent fist
murky: E
abbadan [?\]: E
Keido [13k\]: C
Florian [7k\]: c
Nikos [18k\]: b
Djeki [14k\]: A 
][KarateKid [9k\]: lol
DrGoPlayer [5k\]: not enough
EmTom [18k?\]: nezumii be nice ;)
QuanSiMenh [10k\]: lol, that's a crude question
poke556 [10k\]: nezumii this qn is out of scope
Ambivlnce [13k\]: Less than we'd want them too.
Nezumii [7k?\]: so they poor?
zee [8k\]: B to play
wingnut [-\]: *rolls eyes*
Scribe [?\]: Black to play problem
nutcase [1k\]: B
EkinOne [14k\]: B defend
goyo [?\]: c
Batavia [15k\]: C
ratata [4k\]: B
kimba [7k\]: B
ibo2go [15k\]: C
npk196 [13k\]: C
agui [7k\]: B
pugh [15k\]: A
blueplayer [18k\]: C
Nezumii [7k?\]: D
Flux [-\]: C
rakdver [14k\]: c
Bodo212 [14k\]: C
ihgo [4k\]: C
abbadan [?\]: E
Zagga [11k\]: B to avoid problems
blue88 [15k\]: b
QWerner [18k\]: a
tidbit [25k\]: C
Ambivlnce [13k\]: b
GothamST [?\]: c
kyrilin [16k\]: b
neoRpgamer [8k?\]: c
Nanoc [1k\]: A
Syuvin [23k?\]: C
tubro [28k?\]: C
lefuet [9k\]: B
krneki [9k\]: c
chucha [20k\]: A
au2 [2k\]: C
Sika [16k\]: B
ivanho [12k\]: C
olczyk [16k\]: D
ted [19k?\]: A
Nezumii [7k?\]: D!
rzhao [4k\]: a
Bodo212 [14k\]: urgent fist
murky: E
abbadan [?\]: E
Keido [13k\]: C
Florian [7k\]: c
Nikos [18k\]: b
Djeki [14k\]: A 
][KarateKid [9k\]: lol
DrGoPlayer [5k\]: not enough
EmTom [18k?\]: nezumii be nice ;)
QuanSiMenh [10k\]: lol, that's a crude question
poke556 [10k\]: nezumii this qn is out of scope
Ambivlnce [13k\]: Less than we'd want them too.
Nezumii [7k?\]: so they poor?
zee [8k\]: B to play
wingnut [-\]: *rolls eyes*
Scribe [?\]: Black to play problem
nutcase [1k\]: B
EkinOne [14k\]: B defend
goyo [?\]: c
Batavia [15k\]: C
ratata [4k\]: B
kimba [7k\]: B
ibo2go [15k\]: C
npk196 [13k\]: C
agui [7k\]: B
pugh [15k\]: A
blueplayer [18k\]: C
Nezumii [7k?\]: D
Flux [-\]: C
rakdver [14k\]: c
Bodo212 [14k\]: C
ihgo [4k\]: C
abbadan [?\]: E
Zagga [11k\]: B to avoid problems
blue88 [15k\]: b
QWerner [18k\]: a
tidbit [25k\]: C
Ambivlnce [13k\]: b
GothamST [?\]: c
kyrilin [16k\]: b
neoRpgamer [8k?\]: c
Nanoc [1k\]: A
Syuvin [23k?\]: C
tubro [28k?\]: C
lefuet [9k\]: B
krneki [9k\]: c
chucha [20k\]: A
au2 [2k\]: C
Sika [16k\]: B
ivanho [12k\]: C
olczyk [16k\]: D
ted [19k?\]: A
Nezumii [7k?\]: D!
rzhao [4k\]: a
Bodo212 [14k\]: urgent fist
murky: E
abbadan [?\]: E
Keido [13k\]: C
Florian [7k\]: c
Nikos [18k\]: b
Djeki [14k\]: A 
][KarateKid [9k\]: lol
DrGoPlayer [5k\]: not enough
EmTom [18k?\]: nezumii be nice ;)
QuanSiMenh [10k\]: lol, that's a crude question
poke556 [10k\]: nezumii this qn is out of scope
Ambivlnce [13k\]: Less than we'd want them too.
Nezumii [7k?\]: so they poor?
zee [8k\]: B to play
wingnut [-\]: *rolls eyes*
Scribe [?\]: Black to play problem
nutcase [1k\]: B
EkinOne [14k\]: B defend
goyo [?\]: c
Batavia [15k\]: C
ratata [4k\]: B
kimba [7k\]: B
ibo2go [15k\]: C
npk196 [13k\]: C
agui [7k\]: B
pugh [15k\]: A
blueplayer [18k\]: C
Nezumii [7k?\]: D
Flux [-\]: C
rakdver [14k\]: c
Bodo212 [14k\]: C
ihgo [4k\]: C
abbadan [?\]: E
Zagga [11k\]: B to avoid problems
blue88 [15k\]: b
QWerner [18k\]: a
tidbit [25k\]: C
Ambivlnce [13k\]: b
GothamST [?\]: c
kyrilin [16k\]: b
neoRpgamer [8k?\]: c
Nanoc [1k\]: A
Syuvin [23k?\]: C
tubro [28k?\]: C
lefuet [9k\]: B
krneki [9k\]: c
chucha [20k\]: A
au2 [2k\]: C
Sika [16k\]: B
ivanho [12k\]: C
olczyk [16k\]: D
ted [19k?\]: A
Nezumii [7k?\]: D!
rzhao [4k\]: a
Bodo212 [14k\]: urgent fist
murky: E
abbadan [?\]: E
Keido [13k\]: C
Florian [7k\]: c
Nikos [18k\]: b
Djeki [14k\]: A 
]
(;B[qo]CR[qo])
(;B[gn]CR[gn])
(;B[og]CR[og]C[goglu [-\]: B
zee [8k\]: R15 is big but not urgent
Nanoc [1k\]: but f15 increase white moyo
])
(;B[fe]CR[fe]C[zee [8k\]: R5
Nanoc [1k\]: so A is biggest
Scribe [?\]: They are weak because the k16 stone is too far away from the p17 stones
]
(;W[nd]CR[nd]C[swilks [7k\]: does black need this move only after white lays r13?
ivanho [12k\]: yes
blueplayer [18k\]: yes
kaeleer [16k\]: ok
agui [7k\]: yes
Nezumii [7k?\]: no
Bodo212 [14k\]: ok
chucha [20k\]: yes
Violet [4k\]: yes
poke556 [10k\]: yes
tubro [28k?\]: yeah
tibra [13k?\]: yes
goyo [?\]: ok
EkinOne [14k\]: C L E A R
kimba [7k\]: ok
pugh [15k\]: yes
QWerner [18k\]: o14
rhubarb [6k\]: continuation?
agui [7k\]: can black N18
Scribe [?\]: black n18 ?
zee [8k\]: with W o16, B is hard to connect
Violet [4k\]: so where do W should put?
ChoK [-\]: what about W O18 ?
]
(;B[nb]CR[nb]C[Djeki [14k\]: that hurts..
]
;W[lc]CR[lc]C[zee [8k\]: B needs O16 to defend
])
(;B[of]CR[of]
;W[nf]CR[nf]C[Scribe [?\]: white o16 is very sereve
]))
(;W[ne]CR[ne]C[Nikos [18k\]: this b group has no purpose
zee [8k\]: hard for B if W gets O16
Scribe [?\]: black is running without eyes or points after white o16
]
;B[md]CR[md]
;W[nd]CR[nd]
;B[mb]CR[mb]
;W[nb]CR[nb]C[Scribe [?\]: white o15 is old joseki...not played anymore
]
;B[na]CR[na]C[isshoni [13k\]: where should K16 be to be allright for black?
Scribe [?\]: black can connect
]
;W[mc]CR[mc]
(;B[lb]CR[lb]C[swilks [7k\]: usually corner joseki ends without r13.  is this attack severe if r13 not played?
zee [8k\]: After B connects W has a weak group
Scribe [?\]: once black connects the white stones are a weak group
agui [7k\]: ok
okhna [14k\]: ok
])
(;B[lc]CR[lc])))
(;B[nd]CR[nd]C[kimba [7k\]: give up
])
(;AE[jd][qg][pj]AB[kd]C[isshoni [13k\]: wher should K16 be to make black s shape ok?
Violet [4k\]: ok
murky: Now, F15 is good 
Scribe [?\]: black now one line closer at L16 in place of k16
Violet [4k\]: when is the next time?
nutcase [1k\]: next week, same timing
Violet [4k\]: thanks for the lesson
abbadan [?\]: thank you abd Scribe!
]
;B[qo]CR[qo]C[Scribe [?\]: black is a little stronger but still not totally safe
AkitoKun [15k?\]: that's fun
EmTom [18k?\]: i had a question :/
]
(;W[nd]CR[nd])
(;W[ne]CR[ne]C[EkinOne [14k\]: LOL
Violet [4k\]: yes
abbadan [?\]: yes
]
;B[md]CR[md]C[Scribe [?\]: white can still o16
pugh [15k\]: yes
EmTom [18k?\]: question
tubro [28k?\]: yeah, very nice
]
;W[nd]CR[nd]C[poke556 [10k\]: yes
]
;B[mb]CR[mb]C[Violet [4k\]: ok
zee [8k\]: Now O16 still works but less
Scribe [?\]: black has connected, white is now weak
Violet [4k\]: today i see guo juan's pic in the magazine
zee [8k\]: B is safe
kaeleer [16k\]: yes understand
QWerner [18k\]: jes
agui [7k\]: yes
AkitoKun [15k?\]: go magazine??
tibra [13k?\]: yes
okhna [14k\]: yes
isshoni [13k\]: ok
Bodo212 [14k\]: yes
Jugular [4k\]: yes
ivanho [12k\]: yes
Violet [4k\]: understand
okhna [14k\]: run together
goyo [?\]: yes
])
(;W[nb]CR[nb]C[Nezumii [7k?\]: is guojuan a woman?
]
;B[oa]CR[oa]
;W[ne]CR[ne]
;B[pf]CR[pf]
;W[qg]CR[qg]
;B[pg]CR[pg]
;W[ng]CR[ng]
;B[ph]CR[ph]
;W[ni]CR[ni]C[blue88 [15k\]: sure she is...
Manchurian [9k\]: a checker is here
Manchurian [9k\]: ^^
spingle [8k?\]: fun for w ;)
AkitoKun [15k?\]: ><
EkinOne [14k\]: HAHAHA
abbadan [?\]: yes
murky: a lady
Violet [4k\]: ^^
kaeleer [16k\]: *sigh*
AkitoKun [15k?\]: ppls on kgs are peculiar
poke556 [10k\]: lol
Manchurian [9k\]: goujuan can you laugh for us
Wook [-\]: that must have been the most stupid question ever here :)
Manchurian [9k\]: ^^
neoRpgamer [8k?\]: haha
Violet [4k\]: ye
])
(;W[ss]CR[ss]C[Hu [10k\]: Have some respect for the teacher, please.
agui [7k\]: very interesting
Violet [4k\]: she's pretty 
]
(;B[fe]CR[fe]C[Violet [4k\]: lol
]
;W[nb]CR[nb]
;B[nd]CR[nd]
(;W[lb]CR[lb]
;B[oa]CR[oa]
;W[jc]CR[jc]C[Violet [4k\]: ooo
EmTom [18k?\]: i need to type faster :)
zee [8k\]: W is alive
murky: any aji in the UR corner?
Manchurian [9k\]: yes
Violet [4k\]: 017 useful
Manchurian [9k\]: no problem
Violet [4k\]: ok
]
;B[jd]CR[jd]C[Manchurian [9k\]: ^^
]
;W[ic]CR[ic]C[Scribe [?\]: white lives inside blacks putative territory
Wook [-\]: against a 30k yes, against you...no :)))
AkitoKun [15k?\]: influence time
])
(;W[md]CR[md]
;B[mc]CR[mc]
(;W[ne]CR[ne]C[spingle [8k?\]: nice
Violet [4k\]: ^^
zee [8k\]: W has to run alone here
]
(;B[od]CR[od]
;W[lc]CR[lc]
;B[mb]CR[mb]
;W[lb]CR[lb]
;B[na]CR[na]
;W[ld]CR[ld]C[zee [8k\]: bad for B
])
(;B[mb]CR[mb]C[Violet [4k\]: no fun to run alone
nutcase [1k\]: P16
okhna [14k\]: ?
chucha [20k\]: o 19
spingle [8k?\]: ponuki
EkinOne [14k\]: Take stone
QWerner [18k\]: o19
Violet [4k\]: o19?
Nezumii [7k?\]: o19
tubro [28k?\]: take
rakdver [14k\]: o19
krneki [9k\]: o19
kimba [7k\]: eat
Violet [4k\]: run run
]
(;W[od]CR[od]C[Batavia [15k\]: O19
]
;B[na]CR[na]C[ivanho [12k\]: O19
au2 [2k\]: p16
Violet [4k\]: yah
])
(;W[na]CR[na]C[Violet [4k\]: marathon
QuanSiMenh [10k\]: alone is very boring ^^, should run together
]
;B[od]CR[od]
(;W[oa]CR[oa]
;B[me]CR[me])
(;W[ld]CR[ld]C[isshoni [13k\]: see forrest gump: he got people to run with him
]
(;B[oa]CR[oa]
;W[lc]CR[lc]C[poke556 [10k\]: haha..
zee [8k\]: M16 is good for W
Manchurian [9k\]: zee we can see it too
Manchurian [9k\]: ^^
])
(;B[kc]CR[kc]
;W[oa]CR[oa]
;B[pf]CR[pf]
;W[qg]CR[qg]
;B[pg]CR[pg]C[murky: Zee is our amature scribe
zee [8k\]: middle game joseki
AkitoKun [15k?\]: do guojuan watch hikaru no go?
Violet [4k\]: maybe
Manchurian [9k\]: ne she is sai
seku [17k\]: :P
Manchurian [9k\]: :P
Manchurian [9k\]: -e+o
Violet [4k\]: sai is boy
agui [7k\]: ok
kaeleer [16k\]: ok
wingnut [-\]: is it stupid question day?
nutcase [1k\]: w look thin
zee [8k\]: How W can break B 's terr up
])))))
(;W[lc]CR[lc]
;B[mb]CR[mb]
;W[lb]CR[lb]
;B[na]CR[na]
;W[ld]CR[ld]C[pugh [15k\]: yes
]
;B[jc]CR[jc]C[zee [8k\]: B has a better shape
TheWayToGo [17k\]: o14 for b
])))
(;AE[kd]AB[lc]C[Manchurian [9k\]: and strong also.
Manchurian [9k\]: ^^
Violet [4k\]: sure
Nezumii [7k?\]: i just thought the young guy on her site was guojuan
Scribe [?\]: replace L16/K16 with M17....now black is totally safe
Bodo212 [14k\]: thx
QWerner [18k\]: its ok
DrGoPlayer [5k\]: great
poke556 [10k\]: sure
olczyk [16k\]: ok
kaeleer [16k\]: thank you
EkinOne [14k\]: O K ! ! !
smudge [11k?\]: Lots to learn!
zee [8k\]: Will show this next time
HW9x9 [-\]: :-(
DrGoPlayer [5k\]: next time!
pugh [15k\]: ok
abbadan [?\]: yes
swilks [7k\]: yes.  thank you. very useful
]
;B[sr]CR[sr]C[Nezumii [7k?\]: i guess he is her son
agui [7k\]: yes clear
poke556 [10k\]: ok
ivanho [12k\]: thats ok
tubro [28k?\]: ok
Jugular [4k\]: ok :)
wingnut [-\]: that's fine
]
(;W[nd]CR[nd]C[zee [8k\]: B is very close to being connected
]
;B[nb]CR[nb]C[isshoni [13k\]: he s her son
])
(;W[nb]CR[nb]
(;B[na]CR[na]C[isshoni [13k\]: -> 'i m a mother'
Scribe [?\]: both o18 and o16 are possible, depends on outside 
]
;W[ma]CR[ma]
;B[oa]CR[oa]
(;W[nd]CR[nd]
;B[mb]CR[mb])
(;W[lb]CR[lb]C[Violet [4k\]: ok
Violet [4k\]: ok
]
;B[nd]CR[nd]C[kaeleer [16k\]: ok
zee [8k\]: both o18 and o16 are ok
Violet [4k\]: yes
]))
(;B[nd]CR[nd]))
(;W[jc]CR[jc]C[zee [8k\]: if k17, B has a problem
nutcase [1k\]: over-concentrated
tidbit [25k\]: ok
Violet [4k\]: ok
kaeleer [16k\]: ok!
kalistek [10k\]: ok
blueplayer [18k\]: ok
goglu [-\]: yes
Violet [4k\]: thx all
AkitoKun [15k?\]: we love professionals
rhubarb [6k\]: thx
EkinOne [14k\]: T H A N K   Y O U ! ! !   :D
tubro [28k?\]: Thank you for the beautiful lesson.
zee [8k\]: Thank  you for a great lesson
golawyer2 [6k?\]: thank you
smudge [11k?\]: Thank you, Ing foundation
okhna [14k\]: thank you very much for spending your time for us
Zagga [11k\]: thx
poke556 [10k\]: :)
QWerner [18k\]: :o9
Violet [4k\]: ok
QWerner [18k\]: ok
ivanho [12k\]: ok
Hu [10k\]: Thank you GuoJuan.
juve [21k\]: ok
kaeleer [16k\]: ok!  
poke556 [10k\]: sure
abbadan [?\]: OK
tubro [28k?\]: Great
wingnut [-\]: thank you
pugh [15k\]: thank you
EkinOne [14k\]: NO PRO
GothamST [?\]: thank you
Zagga [11k\]: gg
Manchurian [9k\]: guojuan we cant get enough from your lessons
olczyk [16k\]: Thank you
blue88 [15k\]: thank you, and thanks to ing foundation
poke556 [10k\]: Thanks!!
Batavia [15k\]: thank you
murky: thank you
kaeleer [16k\]: thank you!
tibra [13k?\]: thank you
kimba [7k\]: bye :)
vinhxuan [12k\]: thanks
Manchurian [9k\]: very great ^^
QWerner [18k\]: thx you
nutcase [1k\]: thx, guo laoshi
juve [21k\]: thank you
rakdver [14k\]: thank you
AkitoKun [15k?\]: icommercial time ^^
ivanho [12k\]: thank you and ing foundation
capra [7k?\]: thank you!
au2 [2k\]: thanks for a very nice lecture
ihgo [4k\]: thanks a lot Guo Juan
Violet [4k\]: nice lesson
QWerner [18k\]: great lesson
scraper [16k\]: thank you
agui [7k\]: ok Thank you very much
Manchurian [9k\]: thx
kalistek [10k\]: thank you
neoRpgamer [8k?\]: thank you very much
acmh7 [4k?\]: thx very much
Janez [2k\]: thx
Violet [4k\]: thank you
poke556 [10k\]: so is guojuan
dustsork [19k\]: thank you
spingle [8k?\]: thankyou 
Scribe [?\]: Thanks to the Ing Goe Foundation and to Guojuan Laoshi
seku [17k\]: thanks
Violet [4k\]: see you
AkitoKun [15k?\]: thnx you
raikou [6k\]: thank you
ivanho [12k\]: cu next time
norb [12k\]: thx
Manchurian [9k\]: thank you
dustsork [19k\]: thanks
juve [21k\]: see you
Nezumii [7k?\]: thank you!
Wook [-\]: Thanks :o)
rakdver [14k\]: see you
ibo2go [15k\]: thank you. great lesson
zee [8k\]: Thanks to Ing Foundation
Bodo212 [14k\]: thx - bye
AkitoKun [15k?\]: yes
Manchurian [9k\]: thanks
Violet [4k\]: good nite
kimba [7k\]: c u next week
agui [7k\]: See you
Violet [4k\]: nice dream
au2 [2k\]: THANKS TO ING FOUNDATION FOR THEIR GENEROUS SUPPORT
QWerner [18k\]: have a nice time bye
jramon [13k\]: already finish?
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;B[nd]CR[nd]C[Scribe [?\]: with a white stone on the other side, black has a problem again
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