(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]
PW[mingjiu]PB[mingjiu]WR[7p]BR[7p]DT[2005-06-19]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[dynamite [11k\]: hi
Scribe [-\]: Hello
sicbanana [15k\]: hey!
liquis [15k\]: hi
noel [13k\]: hello
agui [8k\]: Hello
laohero [16k\]: hello
guojuan [5p\]: we hear you
Ruutana [11k\]: Hello!
maruseru [15k?\]: hello
parsan [18k\]: hello
Brutha [9k?\]: hi
mrguess [20k?\]: hello.
Scribe [-\]: Good sound today
ligo [9k?\]: hello
murky: Hello, MingJiu LaoShi
halley [22k\]: hello
Uvas [-\]: hi
Katoan [9k\]: hi >(
DnF [7k\]: good afternoon
wingnut [-\]: hi :)
kirschi [16k\]: hello
Katoan [9k\]: :) even
jantiff [4k?\]: hi, master
Daywalker [10k\]: holla :)
gc1 [2d\]: Good sound level Mingjiu :)
Scribe [-\]: Homework first
playgo [5k\]: hi
zee [11k\]: Something was wrong in the sequence
os69os [7k\]: c16 slow
]
(;B[rq]CR[rq]C[Phil73 [23k\]: Hello.
muarw [-\]: homework?
]
;W[rr]CR[rr]
;B[sr]CR[sr]
;W[qq]CR[qq]
;B[rp]CR[rp]
;W[qp]CR[qp]
;B[ro]CR[ro]
;W[qo]CR[qo]
;B[qn]CR[qn]
;W[po]CR[po]
;B[pn]CR[pn]
;W[pq]CR[pq]
;B[on]CR[on]
;W[op]CR[op]C[wingnut [-\]: all good students do homework :P
]
;B[np]CR[np]
;W[oq]CR[oq]
;B[nq]CR[nq]
;W[nr]CR[nr]
;B[mr]CR[mr]
;W[aa]CR[aa]
;B[lq]CR[lq]C[ohmygosh [4k?\]: yes
Scribe [-\]: Homework from last week:  Black to play
Medice [12k\]: q2?
maruseru [15k?\]: q1
dynamite [11k\]: q1
Katoan [9k\]: Q1
Phil73 [23k\]: q2
os69os [7k\]: ko
Medice [12k\]: q2 - dies
Winduser [9k\]: Q2
playgo [5k\]: ko
murky: W dies
Javaness [5k\]: white dead
ic3man [2k\]: ...
ic3man [2k\]: read it out first..
Javaness [5k\]: oh sneaky descent move
jantiff [4k?\]: :)
playgo [5k\]: R2 Q2 S1 P1 Q1 
jantiff [4k?\]: Q1 is double eye-stealing tesuji
ohmygosh [4k?\]: seki:)
sicbanana [15k\]: dead
gc1 [2d\]: Q2 does not work 
sicbanana [15k\]: ok
Ubiquity [?\]: ...
zee [11k\]: The answer is ko
ohmygosh [4k?\]: but why p5 is empty
Ubiquity [?\]: it's o1
Scribe [-\]: Which ko is the best for Black ?
ohmygosh [4k?\]: we didnt use that
Ubiquity [?\]: white dies
Medice [12k\]: this is a tragedy!
gc1 [2d\]: O1 is the move
]
;W[ab]CR[ab]C[jantiff [4k?\]: Q2 is met by P2 connection
Scribe [-\]: play at the center of symmetry
atman [4k\]: q1 would also work as response?
Scribe [-\]: q2 fails
zee [11k\]: q2 is a mistake
agui [8k\]: Q1
ohmygosh [4k?\]: p1
Katoan [9k\]: whoah
dynamite [11k\]: what happened to catching 2stones is not an eye?
sicbanana [15k\]: hm
playgo [5k\]: S1 
Medice [12k\]: q2 would be an eye in that previous diagram
Phil73 [23k\]: s1
sicbanana [15k\]: s1
OOOOOO [1d?\]: o1
]
(;B[or]CR[or]C[fab [1d\]: O1 ?
]
;W[pr]CR[pr]C[Phil73 [23k\]: q1, then ?
]
;B[ns]CR[ns]
;W[ps]CR[ps]C[Scribe [-\]: ko
]
;B[rs]CR[rs]
;W[qs]CR[qs])
(;B[qr]CR[qr]C[Ubiquity [?\]: yes
]
;W[pr]CR[pr]
;B[rs]CR[rs]C[jantiff [4k?\]: ko is inferior result here :)
]
;W[os]CR[os]C[Scribe [-\]: still ko
])
(;B[pr]CR[pr]C[Medice [12k\]: aa. that
dynamite [11k\]: in a symmetrical position play in the center
]
;W[or]CR[or]
;B[qr]CR[qr]
;W[rs]CR[rs]C[jantiff [4k?\]: descend at the 1-2 point to gain a liberty
sheeryjay [23k?\]: ups
]
;B[ss]CR[ss]C[Katoan [9k\]: ha
liquis [15k\]: ah
])
(;B[ps]CR[ps]C[atman [4k\]: no, q1 as response to q2
jantiff [4k?\]: same tesuji
Scribe [-\]: q1 fails
]
(;W[pr]CR[pr]
;B[ns]CR[ns])
(;W[os]CR[os]
(;B[rs]CR[rs]C[dynamite [11k\]: damezumari
Javaness [5k\]: no
Xanthus [11k\]: Q2 now?
DnF [7k\]: R2 now
gc1 [2d\]: R2 
]
;W[qr]CR[qr]
;B[qs]CR[qs]C[Eragon [10k\]: wR2
jantiff [4k?\]: erf
]
;W[pr]CR[pr])
(;B[qr]CR[qr]
;W[rs]CR[rs])))
(;B[os]CR[os]C[zee [11k\]: q1 will not work here since he cannot connect  in the corner
liquis [15k\]: yes
murky: no
Javaness [5k\]: p2
]
;W[ps]CR[ps]C[dynamite [11k\]: r2
Javaness [5k\]: atari?
sicbanana [15k\]: s1
ohmygosh [4k?\]: r1
]
;B[ns]CR[ns]
;W[or]CR[or]C[kyrilin [15k\]: p2
halley [22k\]: Q2
vhaen [17k\]: q2
Javaness [5k\]: maybe r1
sheeryjay [23k?\]: R1 ?
Scribe [-\]: fails
])
(;B[qs]CR[qs]
;W[ps]CR[ps]C[Javaness [5k\]: i give up
Medice [12k\]: :)
Daywalker [10k\]: lol
])
(;B[rs]CR[rs]C[wingnut [-\]: N1 
Medice [12k\]: ko
agui [8k\]: ko
Javaness [5k\]: i want to kill it
]
;W[os]CR[os]
(;B[ps]CR[ps]C[zee [11k\]: After s1, it is a ko
]
;W[qr]CR[qr])
(;B[qr]CR[qr]
;W[pr]CR[pr]
;B[ms]CR[ms]
;W[ns]CR[ns]C[Phil73 [23k\]: "Strange things happen at the 1-2 point."
Scribe [-\]: and ko again
]))
(;B[ns]CR[ns]C[OOOOOO [1d?\]: yes
Medice [12k\]: we all do but mingjiu doesnt allow us to :I
wingnut [-\]: no
playgo [5k\]: no
Phil73 [23k\]: no, because of the corner ?
agui [8k\]: It looks like
Scribe [-\]: Kills White
]
(;W[ps]CR[ps]
(;B[rs]CR[rs])
(;B[or]CR[or]
;W[pr]CR[pr]
;B[rs]CR[rs]C[zee [11k\]: B should play o1 first
Scribe [-\]: ko
]
;W[qs]CR[qs]))
(;W[qs]CR[qs]C[OOOOOO [1d?\]: q1
gc1 [2d\]: Q1 
ratata [3k\]: q1
jantiff [4k?\]: interesting shape :)
]
;B[ps]CR[ps]C[OOOOOO [1d?\]: yeah
]
;W[sq]CR[sq]C[halley [22k\]: q1
OOOOOO [1d?\]: haha
Ubiquity [?\]: t1
ic3man [2k\]: t1
gc1 [2d\]: T1 
ratata [3k\]: t1
]
;B[ss]CR[ss]C[kasparob [4k\]: t1
])
(;W[pr]CR[pr]
;B[ps]CR[ps]C[sicbanana [15k\]: not yet ;)
ohmygosh [4k?\]: no
agui [8k\]: no, funny shape
])))
(;B[pq]CR[pq]C[dynamite [11k\]: rude
sicbanana [15k\]: hehe
]
(;W[po]CR[po]
;B[pl]CR[pl]
;W[mp]CR[mp]
;B[oo]CR[oo]
;W[op]CR[op]C[jantiff [4k?\]: P4 is too severe
]
;B[pp]CR[pp]C[ratata [3k\]: p4
]
;W[on]CR[on]C[Scribe [-\]: Joseki Questions
]
;B[no]CR[no]C[zee [11k\]: Joseki question
]
;W[np]CR[np]C[zee [11k\]: Where did W make a mistake?
]
;B[qo]CR[qo]
;W[pn]CR[pn]
;B[qn]CR[qn]
;W[mn]CR[mn]C[agui [8k\]: no
Rykunetsu [13k\]: no
murky: kinda
Javaness [5k\]: looks bad for white
gc1 [2d\]: no
hansb [4k?\]: its a noseki
wingnut [-\]: I don't think so
agui [8k\]: black better
sicbanana [15k\]: black
hansb [4k?\]: good for whote
OOOOOO [1d?\]: joseki
sicbanana [15k\]: cause of q3
zee [11k\]: better for B
zee [11k\]: 2 sente moves for B
jantiff [4k?\]: O5 is shape move... w's influence is not ideal
agui [8k\]: W P4 is wrong
noel [13k\]: i think P4 is wrong?
noel [13k\]: should Q4?
Scribe [-\]: not too severe, too aggressive is the term
]
(;B[pm]CR[pm])
(;B[lo]CR[lo])
(;B[nm]CR[nm])
(;B[cd]CR[cd]
;W[ed]CR[ed]
;B[hd]CR[hd]
;W[dg]CR[dg]
;B[ee]CR[ee]
(;W[fe]CR[fe]C[zee [11k\]: W does not get his wishes
Scribe [-\]: White outside hane is correct
zee [11k\]: W should hane at f15 first
Katoan [9k\]: yes
dynamite [11k\]: yes, thank you
vhaen [17k\]: yes
wholeboard [8k\]: yes
Phil73 [23k\]: Yes.
agui [8k\]: yes very clear, thanks
hansb [4k?\]: clear
Scribe [-\]: What is the continuation ?
]
(;B[ef]CR[ef]C[noel [13k\]: what about D16 instead of hane?
sicbanana [15k\]: whats the continuation?
sicbanana [15k\]: yes
swilks [7k\]: what if white connects now?
sicbanana [15k\]: whats it?
jantiff [4k?\]: b moves out
wingnut [-\]: D16 
])
(;B[dd]CR[dd]
;W[ef]CR[ef]
;B[ec]CR[ec]
;W[de]CR[de]
;B[fc]CR[fc]C[jantiff [4k?\]: kajiwara joseki isn't it ?
]))
(;W[de]CR[de]
;B[dd]CR[dd]
;W[fe]CR[fe]
(;B[ec]CR[ec]C[Scribe [-\]: Black sacrifices and extra stone for aji
]
;W[ef]CR[ef]
;B[fc]CR[fc]C[gc1 [2d\]: now, white has a nice shape 
]
;W[qc]CR[qc]C[zee [11k\]: W wants this result
]
;B[cp]CR[cp]
;W[ep]CR[ep]
;B[hp]CR[hp]
;W[dn]CR[dn]
;B[eo]CR[eo]
;W[do]CR[do]
;B[dp]CR[dp]C[jantiff [4k?\]: ponnuki  is much more efficient for w
]
;W[fo]CR[fo]
;B[eq]CR[eq]
;W[en]CR[en]
;B[fq]CR[fq]LB[hg:B][hm:A]TR[dg][dn]C[Scribe [-\]: compare top left vs bottom right.  top left good for White, bottom right good for Black
gc1 [2d\]: D6 
jantiff [4k?\]: D6 should be at D7, heavy shape there
maruseru [15k?\]: b is better for white
maruseru [15k?\]: because d6  is overconcentrated
Scribe [-\]: in B d13 is dynamic, in A d6 is overconcentrated
zee [11k\]: B is better for W
])
(;B[ef]CR[ef]
;W[df]CR[df]
;B[ec]CR[ec]
;W[fd]CR[fd]
;B[fc]CR[fc]
;W[fg]CR[fg]))))
(;W[cp]CR[cp]C[gc1 [2d\]: I prefer a pincer
ohmygosh [4k?\]: lol
sicbanana [15k\]: just kidding
]
;B[pd]CR[pd]C[Scribe [-\]: The correct sequence
]
;W[dc]CR[dc]C[jantiff [4k?\]: Q3 is rude ;-)
]
;B[ep]CR[ep]
;W[po]CR[po]C[murky: sound?
Javaness [5k\]: kakari is keima approach move
agui [8k\]: yes
ligo [9k?\]: sound ok
]
(;B[cq]CR[cq]C[jantiff [4k?\]: w M3 ?
]
(;W[bq]CR[bq]C[sicbanana [15k\]: thats small
]
;B[dq]CR[dq]C[jantiff [4k?\]: i see... b has more possitilities like this
]
;W[bo]CR[bo]C[playgo [5k\]: C3 could be a kakari
dynamite [11k\]: helps black
jantiff [4k?\]: i find H3 lacks vigor
agui [8k\]: it looks more balanced with the right side
sicbanana [15k\]: hm
murky: J3 W can tenuki
playgo [5k\]: the direction of stones...
GonKu [14k\]: nothing white can do to stop this happening ?
]
(;B[hq]CR[hq]C[halley [22k\]: what is kakari?
sicbanana [15k\]: q3 presence is good for b
dynamite [11k\]: but b gets sente to secure lower side?
au2 [3k\]: can b j3 ?
au2 [3k\]: could w O4 ?
jantiff [4k?\]: so, H3-D6 exchange is good for w ?
zee [11k\]: This helps us in the way we should think
]
(;W[dn]CR[dn]C[ohmygosh [4k?\]: o3
Yemon [7k\]: rather slow
agui [8k\]: no D7
Scribe [-\]: White d6 is not required, tenuki possible
Scribe [-\]: white o4 presses black low on the bottom
]
;B[np]CR[np]C[Scribe [-\]: lower side is good shape for Black
]
;W[qq]CR[qq]
;B[qr]CR[qr]
;W[qp]CR[qp]C[jantiff [4k?\]: O4 at Q8 ?
jantiff [4k?\]: would you call H3 a slack move ?
]
(;B[or]CR[or]
;W[ql]CR[ql]C[agui [8k\]: korigatachi
Scribe [-\]: Good for Black at this point
]
;B[cf]CR[cf]
;W[cd]CR[cd]C[hansb [4k?\]: play C12 in stead of C16
]
;B[ci]CR[ci]
;W[ck]LB[dc:4][cd:20][pd:3][cf:19][ci:21][ck:22][ql:18][dn:12][bo:10][po:6][cp:2][ep:5][np:13][qp:16][bq:8][cq:7][dq:9][hq:11][pq:1][qq:14][or:17][qr:15]C[gc1 [2d\]: O4 I do not like
jantiff [4k?\]: O4 makes balance
au2 [3k\]: i would pincer b c14
playgo [5k\]: H3 too close
hansb [4k?\]: C16
dynamite [11k\]: c11 instead of 20
hansb [4k?\]: 20
jantiff [4k?\]: C11 short
Daywalker [10k\]: gc1 wouldn´t a princer weaken lower side?
playgo [5k\]: 20 at C12 
au2 [3k\]: w 20 better as a pincer ?
agui [8k\]: 11 at J3
zee [11k\]: 20 was slack?
wholeboard [8k\]: 13 is bad - play other side
jantiff [4k?\]: b11 is too short extension ?
DrGoPlayer [6k\]: 14
Grimley [8k\]: 20 is good
dynamite [11k\]: 20 at 21
snowmen [2d\]: 12 at 13?
murky: 8 questionable
jantiff [4k?\]: black 13, pincer from Q16 hoshi
slabekju [6k\]: 6?
kasparob [4k\]: W20 is the wrong side?
cyberano [15k\]: c20 bad
zee [11k\]: maybe should pincer instead of 20?
xix [18k\]: 20 at e 15
sicbanana [15k\]: 1 look definitly wrong! :)
jantiff [4k?\]: say black 13 at Q8
])
(;B[rr]CR[rr]C[Daywalker [10k\]: microfone probs?
guojuan [5p\]: I hear nothing now
Medice [12k\]: missing sound every ones in a while, now ok
cyberano [15k\]: i hear it
vhaen [17k\]: yes
murky: sound ok
playm8 [9k\]: yes
agui [8k\]: yes
parsan [18k\]: yes
Bodo212 [15k\]: can hear
wholeboard [8k\]: now ok
Scribe [-\]: Black should play s2 in place of p2
Daywalker [10k\]: ok now
guojuan [5p\]: now yes
]))
(;W[np]CR[np]C[zee [11k\]: Does W have to d6?
zee [11k\]: Better to play o4  instead
Scribe [-\]: o4 is a pivotal point in the shape
os69os [7k\]: i see
cyberano [15k\]: yes
Bodo212 [15k\]: yes
ohmygosh [4k?\]: yh
Alexsweden [29k?\]: yes
laohero [16k\]: yes
agui [8k\]: yes 
Scribe [-\]: but black h3 should be at o4 as well
Zagga [11k\]: the key is to think 50 moves ahead
Scribe [-\]: o4 is just urgent for both
cyberano [15k\]: ok
Katoan [9k\]: yes
cyberano [15k\]: yes
Bodo212 [15k\]: yes
au2 [3k\]: yes
agui [8k\]: yes thanks
laohero [16k\]: yes
kyrilin [15k\]: what move for w after b played o4?
Katoan [9k\]: all kyu say yes and all d are quiet :E
]
;B[cn]CR[cn]C[zee [11k\]: to prevent B from getting o4
playm8 [9k\]: D5
agui [8k\]: what if black C6 ?
wholeboard [8k\]: sound?
]
(;W[cm]CR[cm]C[Medice [12k\]: cant hear the sound now..
Medice [12k\]: yes
wholeboard [8k\]: yes
Codexus [14k\]: yes
vhaen [17k\]: yes
agui [8k\]: yes
wingnut [-\]: yes
cyberano [15k\]: yes
Brutha [9k?\]: yes
halley [22k\]: yes
dave18 [6k?\]: yes
murky: came back
]
(;B[bn]CR[bn]
;W[bm]CR[bm]
(;B[an]CR[an]
;W[dn]CR[dn])
(;B[ao]CR[ao]
;W[ap]CR[ap]
;B[an]CR[an]
;W[dn]CR[dn]
;B[co]CR[co]
;W[do]CR[do]
;B[bp]CR[bp]C[zee [11k\]: Ko is heavy for B
Scribe [-\]: ko is very heavy for Black
]
;W[qq]CR[qq]))
(;B[dm]CR[dm]
;W[bm]CR[bm]
;B[dl]CR[dl]
;W[ck]CR[ck]TR[np]C[Scribe [-\]: correct sequence
]))
(;W[dm]CR[dm]
;B[cm]CR[cm])))
(;B[iq]CR[iq]C[gc1 [2d\]: H3 is a solid move
sicbanana [15k\]: j3 is better i think
agui [8k\]: I prefer J3
jantiff [4k?\]: b will feel low after wO4
sicbanana [15k\]: black can make moyo in the middle
])
(;B[np]CR[np]C[cyberano [15k\]: right
zee [11k\]: If B wanted this shape, he should play it now
Grimley [8k\]: no white shouldnt play d6 either
Scribe [-\]: no White D6 should be at o4
]
(;W[hp]CR[hp]
;B[en]CR[en]
;W[cm]CR[cm]
;B[jp]CR[jp]TR[en][ep][hp][cq][dq]C[gc1 [2d\]: the key is to have a plan and think a few moves ahead.
zee [11k\]: Sequence is iportant
Katoan [9k\]: "a few moves"?
Yemon [7k\]: nice way to attack
zee [11k\]: B is attacking W here
])
(;W[qq]CR[qq])))
(;W[np]CR[np])
(;W[qq]CR[qq])
(;W[oq]CR[oq]))
(;B[dn]CR[dn]C[agui [8k\]: an approach move
])
(;B[pl]CR[pl]C[sicbanana [15k\]: good
Javaness [5k\]: ok
playgo [5k\]: better
])))
(;B[pd]CR[pd]
;W[qq]CR[qq]
;B[qr]CR[qr]
;W[qp]CR[qp]
;B[pq]CR[pq]
;W[po]CR[po]
;B[cq]CR[cq]C[Scribe [-\]: Not real sequence....just setting the shape
]
;W[bq]CR[bq]
;B[dq]CR[dq]
;W[cp]CR[cp]
;B[ep]CR[ep]
;W[dc]CR[dc]
;B[or]CR[or]
;W[cd]CR[cd]
;B[hq]CR[hq]
;W[dn]CR[dn]
;B[ci]CR[ci]
;W[ck]CR[ck]
;B[cf]CR[cf]
;W[bo]CR[bo]
(;B[ql]CR[ql]C[lined [3k?\]: someone tell him about the f2 tool
Eragon [10k\]: why wC16 and not wC15 +#
])
(;B[np]CR[np]
;W[ql]CR[ql]LB[ee:C][om:A][fn:B]C[murky: who's move next?
Scribe [-\]: What do you think about this shape ?
zee [11k\]: What do you think about this result?
sicbanana [15k\]: good for b
Brutha [9k?\]: good for black
os69os [7k\]: b better
Scribe [-\]: evaluate the position
laohero [16k\]: b moves next
hansb [4k?\]: good 4 black
fab [1d\]: black better, white cramped everywhere
noel [13k\]: i like black
Javaness [5k\]: balanced
ligo [9k?\]: b
sicbanana [15k\]: ah
zee [11k\]: three joseki
sicbanana [15k\]: black b look good
Brutha [9k?\]: black can form a nice moyo
playgo [5k\]: black has only territory on the bottom, seems bad
murky: depends on who's next move
agui [8k\]: I prefer black
cyberano [15k\]: i like whites position
au2 [3k\]: w all settled but b bottom needs a move
Scribe [-\]: count stones to determine whose move is next :)
ligo [9k?\]: b bottom connect to each other white sides run into b stones
laohero [16k\]: b is next since 11 stones each
zee [11k\]: Result is good for B
]))
(;B[oc]CR[oc]C[Scribe [-\]: HomeWorkd
]
;W[qd]CR[qd]
;B[nc]CR[nc]
;W[pc]CR[pc]
;B[mc]CR[mc]
;W[od]CR[od]
;B[lb]CR[lb]
;W[lc]CR[lc]
;B[kb]CR[kb]
;W[ld]CR[ld]
;B[jb]CR[jb]
;W[jc]CR[jc]
;B[aa]CR[aa]
;W[ic]CR[ic]
;B[ab]CR[ab]
;W[ib]CR[ib]
;B[ac]CR[ac]
;W[me]CR[me]C[playm8 [9k\]: they Don't need to learn as much as kyu's ;-)
hansb [4k?\]: white's turn to play
cyberano [15k\]: thank you
playm8 [9k\]: thx
au2 [3k\]: thanks
Yemon [7k\]: thank you
parsan [18k\]: thanks you
laohero [16k\]: thank you
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