(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1650]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[jujo]PB[jujo]WR[9p]BR[9p]DT[2005-07-17]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]
;B[qd]CR[qd]C[Hu [12k\]: Yes, is clear
wingnut [-\]: sound is fine here
Ruutana [10k\]: Good sound.
au2 [3k\]: sound good
TheMarine [7k?\]: O_O
cervoise78 [16k\]: yes
Scribe [-\]: sound is getting softer and softer
puzi [8k\]: wangwi final?
egemen [-\]: sound is too low
yfh2 [11k?\]: Ok DukJin vs Lee ChangHo
murky: turn up volume would help
Scribe [-\]: no its does not help. volume at 100%
bisly [13k?\]: sound to low:(
murky: maybe restart the software
bisly [13k?\]: oh
Antoine63 [26k\]: tnaks
murky: would help
Antoine63 [26k\]: thanks
]
;W[dd]CR[dd]
;B[pq]CR[pq]
;W[dp]CR[dp]
;B[fc]CR[fc]
;W[hc]CR[hc]C[murky: Lee ChongHo has B
olczyk [16k\]: wHAT IS THE TOURNAMENT?
zee [11k\]: Lee ChangHo is Black
]
(;B[nc]CR[nc]C[olczyk [16k\]: Oops.Sorry.
bluremi [4k\]: watchs teh caps lock buddy :)
murky: Common fuseki
]
;W[po]CR[po]
;B[qo]CR[qo]
;W[qn]CR[qn]
;B[qp]CR[qp]
;W[pn]CR[pn]
;B[nq]CR[nq]
(;W[pj]CR[pj]C[zee [11k\]: B plays different today with large keima
bluremi [4k\]: why are you two repeating everything he says?
]
(;B[cj]CR[cj]C[Antoine63 [26k\]: r&&?
murky: In game, B choose C10
zee [11k\]: q10 is popular
murky: interesting for Lee 
Kerrick [16k\]: because some people might not understand clearly
]
;W[qf]CR[qf]C[bluremi [4k\]: oh, okay
rarr [5k?\]: bluremi: supposedly some people don't have sound
zee [11k\]: jujo thinks r12 is bigger
braincrash [?\]: bluremi its for the perm record
Hu [12k\]: Usually Scribe writes.
Scribe [-\]: When he can hear ;)
zee [11k\]: this way W gets good shape on right
murky: Scribe cann't hear today
]
;B[cm]CR[cm]C[bluremi [4k\]: okay good job, we should all probably not talk then :)
]
(;W[cf]CR[cf]C[zee [11k\]: So W could not choose f16
zee [11k\]: then d17 later is big
]
;B[fq]CR[fq]C[zee [11k\]: but now lower corner is urgent
murky: B tests W's response here
zee [11k\]: what for W now? W should defend the corner
au2 [3k\]: w E5 ?
braincrash [?\]: c3
beginner [13k\]: c3
olczyk [16k\]: Pincer bad.
tibra [13k?\]: d3
goglu [-\]: D6 
wrong [?\]: so, W f5???
rarr [5k?\]: nobody saying f4?
]
(;W[dn]CR[dn]C[zee [11k\]: b4 is better but still make B too strong
puzi [8k\]: i bet he already saw the game :)
zee [11k\]: d6 is good
parsan [16k\]: :)
Hu [12k\]: Sometimes players like parsan[16k\] have good Go imagination and Go knowledge needs to catch up.
]
(;B[dm]CR[dm]
(;W[cn]CR[cn]
(;B[em]CR[em]
;W[dr]CR[dr]C[zee [11k\]: B has to answer here at e7
zee [11k\]: W takes big corner...much bigger terr
wingnut [-\]: this way W makes a bigger territory
zee [11k\]: f5 too slow
murky: W get UL corner
]
(;B[db]CR[db]C[murky: B wabt sente on top first
zee [11k\]: play sente on top first
zee [11k\]: good for B
]
(;W[ec]CR[ec]
;B[eb]CR[eb]
;W[fd]CR[fd]
;B[gc]CR[gc]
;W[gd]CR[gd]
;B[cd]CR[cd]
;W[ce]CR[ce]C[murky: W still tries outside moyo
zee [11k\]: game good for W
]
(;B[hd]CR[hd]C[zee [11k\]: back to game
murky: Real game B cut
zee [11k\]: cut is good
]
;W[hb]CR[hb]C[jantiff [5k?\]: it seems logical after G17 :)
]
;B[gb]CR[gb]
;W[ga]CR[ga]
;B[fb]CR[fb]
;W[jc]CR[jc]C[zee [11k\]: Chang Hao is cjanging style and fights more
]
;B[cc]CR[cc]
;W[gf]CR[gf]
;B[id]CR[id]C[YORI: ( chang hao ? )
frst [1k?\]: h15
]
;W[if]CR[if]
;B[je]CR[je]C[murky: B Lee Chongho
wingnut [-\]: Yi chang-ho - not Chang Hao
]
;W[lc]CR[lc]
;B[jf]CR[jf]
;W[le]CR[le]
;B[kd]CR[kd]C[zee [11k\]: yes, sorry...Lee Chang Ho
]
;W[kc]CR[kc]C[murky: Sorry
]
;B[ig]CR[ig]C[YORI: yes Yi Ch' and-ho  , Chang Hao is chinese :)
]
;W[hg]CR[hg]
;B[ie]CR[ie]
;W[nd]CR[nd]
;B[oc]CR[oc]
;W[mc]CR[mc]
;B[hf]CR[hf]
;W[gg]CR[gg]
;B[od]CR[od]C[zee [11k\]: successful for B
]
;W[of]CR[of]
;B[ii]CR[ii]C[olczyk [16k\]: I think he was Korean.
]
;W[ci]CR[ci]
;B[di]CR[di]
;W[ch]CR[ch]
;B[bj]CR[bj]C[Bodo212 [14k\]: hello
XperiMenT [8k\]: hi
kirschi [16k\]: hi
Xai [15k\]: hi
XperiMenT [8k\]: yes
au2 [3k\]: yes
Hu [12k\]: Hello
Ermac [7k\]: hi
murky: Hellop
Stalker [7k\]: hi
Keido [14k?\]: hi
Ruutana [10k\]: Hello ^_^
mrguess [20k?\]: hello.
jm2: hi
braincrash [?\]: sound good
cervoise78 [16k\]: Hi
Xai [15k\]: ok
wingnut [-\]: *slaps* olczyk
YORI: -_-"
wingnut [-\]: http://igo-kisen.hp.infoseek.co.jp/39wwt4.sgf
bluremi [4k\]: thank you for the review
Bodo212 [14k\]: thxs too
Hu [12k\]: Very good analysis, thank you very much.
Xikkuh [19k\]: thx
au2 [3k\]: THANKS TO ING FOUNDATION
wrong [?\]: xiexie
zee [11k\]: Thank you
icewater [9k?\]: thx
parsan [16k\]: thank you
MagkPicpic [7k\]: thank you
au2 [3k\]: THANKS TO JUJO
Q [10k\]: thanks, bye
kirschi [16k\]: thanks
jbond: gg thx
rarr [5k?\]: thanks jujo
Kerrick [16k\]: thank you for explaining
YORI: yes, (Ok Teukjin and Yi are very good choice ^_^)
jm2: thx
murky: thank you Jujo
mrguess [20k?\]: thank you.
puf [3d?\]: Thanks
wingnut [-\]: Thanks Jujo, Ing foundation :)
WoolyMaCha [13k\]:   thank you
Chachi [9k\]: tx
Dibbun [14k\]: thanks
tibra [13k?\]: thanks a lot
ThePriest [18k?\]: thx
seilen: thanks
Janez [2k\]: thx
cachet [14k\]: thx
YORI: thanks you
au2 [3k\]: BYE
SAD21 [18k\]: thx
Keido [14k?\]: thx
spacehero [25k?\]: thx
Ermac [7k\]: thank you
agui [8k\]: thank you very much
jalapeno [14k\]: no thank you
KevinJ [30k?\]: Thanks
Waton [9k\]: thx a lot
Stalker [7k\]: thanks
esuomikim [15k\]: thank You : )
Kewljoe [18k\]: thnx
])
(;B[cc]CR[cc]
;W[hb]CR[hb]
;B[gb]CR[gb]
;W[ga]CR[ga]
;B[fb]CR[fb]C[Kerrick [16k\]: is g17 good? .. it is like running into a hane
]
;W[ie]CR[ie]C[zee [11k\]: ok for W
]
;B[od]CR[od]
;W[of]CR[of]C[zee [11k\]: W is thick outside
]))
(;W[cc]CR[cc]
;B[ed]CR[ed]C[olczyk [16k\]: Helium?
]
;W[kc]CR[kc]
;B[de]CR[de]
;W[ce]CR[ce]
;B[dc]CR[dc]C[Ermac [7k\]: hehe
]
;W[cd]CR[cd]C[bluremi [4k\]: connection dropped and sound is sped up to compensate temporarily
]
;B[od]CR[od]C[zee [11k\]: if W answers, then B gets shape
]))
(;B[fo]CR[fo]
;W[dc]CR[dc]C[murky: B connection F5 too slow
])
(;B[dc]CR[dc]
;W[cc]CR[cc]
;B[cb]CR[cb]
;W[ec]CR[ec]
;B[db]CR[db]
;W[eb]CR[eb]
;B[ed]CR[ed]
;W[fb]CR[fb]
;B[cd]CR[cd]
;W[de]CR[de]
;B[bd]CR[bd]
;W[fe]CR[fe]C[zee [11k\]: this josekimakes W very thick outside
]))
(;B[dr]CR[dr]C[zee [11k\]: good for B after d2
]
;W[em]CR[em]
;B[el]CR[el]C[Chachi [9k\]: why black doesn't take a free atari?
]
;W[fl]CR[fl]C[wrong [?\]: double hane
]
;B[ek]CR[ek]
;W[fm]CR[fm]C[zee [11k\]: too good for We
]
;B[hp]CR[hp]
;W[fk]CR[fk]
;B[ej]CR[ej]
;W[fj]CR[fj]C[wingnut [-\]: W thick outside
zee [11k\]: this way W double hane and W becomes thick outside
]))
(;W[en]CR[en]C[bluremi [4k\]: moyo = large territorial framework
]
(;B[bo]CR[bo])
(;B[dr]CR[dr]C[zee [11k\]: B wants d2
]
;W[cq]CR[cq]
;B[hp]CR[hp]C[Hu [12k\]: http://senseis.xmp.net/?Moyo
wrong [?\]: d2 Nie WeiPing's favourite
])))
(;B[cn]CR[cn]C[zee [11k\]: not enough profit for B
]
;W[co]CR[co]
;B[dr]CR[dr]
;W[dm]CR[dm]
;B[dl]CR[dl]
;W[el]CR[el]
;B[dk]CR[dk]
;W[fo]CR[fo]C[Kerrick [16k\]: first attack smaller group and prepare for going towards lower side
wingnut [-\]: W shape is good
zee [11k\]: W has good shape
Kerrick [16k\]: ?
]
;B[cq]CR[cq]
;W[bo]CR[bo]
;B[hq]CR[hq]
;W[ch]CR[ch]C[zee [11k\]: corner not too big
zee [11k\]: but B under attack
wingnut [-\]: B side group can be attacked
])
(;B[bo]CR[bo]
;W[dk]CR[dk]
(;B[dm]CR[dm]
;W[en]CR[en]
;B[em]CR[em]
;W[fn]CR[fn]
;B[fm]CR[fm]
;W[gn]CR[gn]
;B[gm]CR[gm]
;W[in]CR[in]C[zee [11k\]: wrong dir for B
]
;B[dj]CR[dj]
;W[iq]CR[iq])
(;B[ck]CR[ck]
;W[dm]CR[dm]
;B[cl]CR[cl]
;W[ip]CR[ip]
;B[fo]CR[fo]
(;W[fn]CR[fn])
(;W[fm]CR[fm]
;B[ho]CR[ho]C[murky: If B helps left side, W pincer to attack
]
;W[jn]CR[jn]
;B[hm]CR[hm]
;W[hk]CR[hk]C[murky: W will develops moyo in middle
]
;B[il]CR[il]C[zee [11k\]: W attacks two B stones
]
;W[kl]CR[kl]C[zee [11k\]: makes it easy for W to build moyo
KevinJ [30k?\]: Moyo?
]))))
(;W[dc]CR[dc]C[zee [11k\]: c14 is best defense ofr the corner
])
(;W[cq]CR[cq]C[murky: too small
]
;B[no]CR[no]C[parsan [16k\]: D6 
zee [11k\]: W is alive but too small
donjo [17k\]: E3
])
(;W[lo]CR[lo]C[Sumo [8k?\]: k4 ;)
]
;B[fo]CR[fo]C[murky: C3 alive but not urgent
]
;W[cq]CR[cq]C[zee [11k\]: if c3, then B will ignore
])
(;W[eq]CR[eq]
;B[fp]CR[fp]C[Sumo [8k?\]: k4
wingnut [-\]: bad aji
]
(;W[co]CR[co]
;B[cq]CR[cq]C[bluremi [4k\]: don't like F4
])
(;W[bp]CR[bp]
;B[kp]CR[kp]C[zee [11k\]: bad aji with c5
])))
(;W[pc]CR[pc])
(;W[fq]CR[fq]C[Scribe [-\]: thats right bluremi
]
;B[fe]CR[fe]C[murky: Zee is the backup Scribe
]
;W[cf]CR[cf]C[wingnut [-\]: good idea ;-)
]
;B[db]CR[db]
;W[cc]CR[cc]
;B[kc]CR[kc]C[zee [11k\]: B l17 double purpose
])
(;W[fd]CR[fd]C[zee [11k\]: B l17 pincers and enlarges the corner
]
;B[cc]CR[cc]
(;W[ec]CR[ec]
;B[ce]CR[ce]C[wingnut [-\]: this is hard way
])
(;W[cd]CR[cd]
;B[dc]CR[dc]
;W[ed]CR[ed]
;B[ec]CR[ec]
;W[gc]CR[gc]
;B[bd]CR[bd]
;W[be]CR[be]
;B[bc]CR[bc]C[murky: W made a wrong wall
wingnut [-\]: W wrong direction, W wall face B stones below
murky: facing two B stones
zee [11k\]: this way W's thickness in the wrong direction
wrong [?\]: W thickness faces B strong stones
zee [11k\]: not good for W
])))
(;B[qh]CR[qh]C[murky: W playing high invites B R12
zee [11k\]: r12 is huge
zee [11k\]: double purpose
]
;W[cf]CR[cf]
;B[pl]CR[pl]
;W[mo]CR[mo]))
(;W[qj]CR[qj]))
(;B[oc]CR[oc]
;W[po]CR[po]
;B[qo]CR[qo]
;W[qn]CR[qn]
;B[qp]CR[qp]
;W[pn]CR[pn]
;B[nq]CR[nq]
;W[qj]CR[qj]
;B[cc]CR[cc]C[murky: Lee had W in another game
]
;W[dc]CR[dc]
;B[cd]CR[cd]
;W[de]CR[de]
;B[db]CR[db]
;W[eb]CR[eb]
;B[cb]CR[cb]
;W[ec]CR[ec]
;B[cf]CR[cf]
;W[qf]CR[qf]C[murky: Hee CHongHo style
]
;B[qh]CR[qh]C[zee [11k\]: Pros thought this would be easier for B because of 3 corners
Scribe [-\]: Jujo please speak louder
Antoine63 [26k\]: W win ??
seilen: yes
TheMarine [7k?\]: it's fine
zee [11k\]: But Lee Changho favord this and had good success with it
bisly [13k?\]: yes!
Antoine63 [26k\]: yep
jantiff [5k?\]: fine
Xai [15k\]: yes-
bisly [13k?\]: : )
yfh2 [11k?\]: yes !
tibra [13k?\]: yes much
murky: better
ThePriest [18k?\]: yes
Keido [14k?\]: yeah
Bodo212 [14k\]: yes
wrong [?\]: it's not his voice, it is probably his microphone sound level
Hu [12k\]: Better when you speak louder, thanks.
Bodo212 [14k\]: thx
egemen [-\]: ohh thx
Bodo212 [14k\]: ok
Scribe [-\]: better but somewhat louder would be better yet
Antoine63 [26k\]: yes yes
Hu [12k\]: You can test the microphone volume.
Antoine63 [26k\]: that's ok now
bluremi [4k\]: guys you can also put on headphones and turn up the volume that way
seilen: turn your speakers up :)
]))