(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[3000]OT[5x50 byo-yomi]
PW[mingjiu]PB[mingjiu]WR[7p]BR[7p]DT[2005-07-24]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[gonophob [8k\]: hi
DrGoPlayer [-\]: hi
gonophob [8k\]: have a good teach
Astone [12k\]: hi, and low, hello.
Astone [12k\]: )
Fjunas [15k?\]: yes
os69os [7k\]: good day
Bodo212 [14k?\]: yes
Kerrick [16k\]: hello!
ligo [9k?\]: hi
Kerrick [16k\]: yes
DrGoPlayer [-\]: good sound
wrong [2d?\]: just don't send the wrong questions ;)
Scribe [-\]: Homework please
wrong [2d?\]: homework?
]
(;B[qd]CR[qd]
(;W[dd]CR[dd]
;B[pq]CR[pq]
;W[dp]CR[dp]C[DrGoPlayer [-\]: amateur game
]
;B[oc]CR[oc]C[Kerrick [16k\]: i played q10 there
agui [8k\]: How about black R11?
]
(;W[qk]CR[qk]C[yfh2 [10k\]: looks like the game I played yesterday !
agui [8k\]: Hello
Astone [12k\]: Unique
wingnut [-\]: I think so
Kerrick [16k\]: yes
Astone [12k\]: anywhere?
agui [8k\]: no
Bodo212 [14k?\]: strange
Kerrick [16k\]: somewhere in the middle
]
(;B[qn]CR[qn]C[agui [8k\]: I mind black R11 after white R9
]
;W[qh]CR[qh]C[Scribe [-\]: Nihao Mingjiu Laoshi
wingnut [-\]: R9 is a calm move
]
;B[jq]CR[jq]
;W[dj]CR[dj]
;B[fp]CR[fp]
;W[dn]CR[dn]
;B[dq]CR[dq]
;W[cq]CR[cq]
;B[eq]CR[eq]C[ligo [9k?\]: 6 pt oba
]
(;W[ic]CR[ic]C[Scribe [-\]: white needed to play c2 immediately
braincrash [?\]: feels good
wingnut [-\]: W not finish joseki Bottom Left
Scribe [-\]: but instead tenuki'ed !
Astone [12k\]: seeking to play fast.. not sure
agui [8k\]: yes
jiku [11k\]: yes?
os69os [7k\]: no
Yoru [13k\]: yes, not finish joseki
kimba [7k\]: no
DrGoPlayer [-\]: monkey jump both ways
wingnut [-\]: small
wingnut [-\]: turn them off Scibe
wingnut [-\]: C2 is huge, 20 pts +
]
;B[cr]CR[cr]
;W[cp]CR[cp]C[Wook [-\]: astone play the monkey jump in both directions (complete sequence with later blocking) and compare
Astone [12k\]: okay.
]
(;B[br]CR[br]C[Astone [12k\]: 4-8?
jiku [11k\]: 10
goglu [-\]: about 20 points
Astone [12k\]: thanks
taudrilly [13k\]: @scribe, in your preferences, choose: sound for my games
kimba [7k\]: and white invasion aji on h3 is gone
]
;W[lc]CR[lc]
;B[dl]CR[dl]C[Scribe [-\]: stone sound is so much louder than speech, how do i make stones quieter ?
Astone [12k\]: Would you show the way to count that to 20 points..
Astone [12k\]: I cant see that so high.
])
(;B[cf]CR[cf]
;W[ce]CR[ce]
;B[df]CR[df]
;W[fd]CR[fd]
;B[dh]CR[dh]C[DrGoPlayer [-\]: actual game now
Wook [-\]: black does not make territory while running but white does
]
(;W[br]CR[br])
(;W[cj]CR[cj]C[jiku [11k\]: white should still play at B2 now?
]
(;B[br]CR[br]
;W[gg]CR[gg]
;B[fh]CR[fh]TR[oc][qd][qn][fp][dq][eq][jq][pq][br][cr]C[Scribe [-\]: thank you taudrilly ;)
])
(;B[gg]CR[gg]C[Scribe [-\]: g13 is slow move for black, now white is thick 
]
;W[fi]CR[fi]
;B[fh]CR[fh]
;W[gi]CR[gi]
;B[ig]CR[ig]
;W[lc]CR[lc]))))
(;W[cr]CR[cr]C[DrGoPlayer [-\]: w at c2
wingnut [-\]: very big difference
Astone [12k\]: wow.
Scribe [-\]: MUST! play c2
Scribe [-\]: more than 20 points
wingnut [-\]: got it 
DrGoPlayer [-\]: yes
Bodo212 [14k?\]: yes
agui [8k\]: yes thank you
swilks [7k\]: yes
Kerrick [16k\]: no questions
Yoru [13k\]: yes
kimba [7k\]: no
Scribe [-\]: yes you review right side again ?
]
;B[fc]CR[fc]
;W[lq]CR[lq]LB[hq:A]))
(;B[qi]CR[qi]C[wingnut [-\]: B from the top
wingnut [-\]: R5 
]
(;W[qn]CR[qn]C[Astone [12k\]: seems possible
]
;B[qp]CR[qp]C[agui [8k\]: two space extension?
kimba [7k\]: r5
agui [8k\]: yes
jiku [11k\]: r5?
agui [8k\]: ahh thanks
])
(;W[qo]CR[qo])))
(;W[qo]CR[qo])
(;W[pn]CR[pn])
(;W[qn]CR[qn]C[Astone [12k\]: agressive/fast 
])
(;W[po]CR[po])
(;W[qj]CR[qj])
(;W[qi]CR[qi]C[agui [8k\]: for black
DrGoPlayer [-\]: too close
]
;B[qk]CR[qk]
;W[qf]CR[qf]C[DrGoPlayer [-\]: yes
]
;B[pj]CR[pj]))
(;W[dp]CR[dp]
(;B[pp]CR[pp]
;W[dd]CR[dd]
;B[oc]CR[oc]
;W[qj]CR[qj])
(;B[pq]CR[pq])))
(;B[dp]CR[dp]
;W[pc]CR[pc]
;B[dd]CR[dd]
;W[pq]CR[pq]
;B[po]CR[po]
;W[qo]CR[qo]C[DrGoPlayer [-\]: avalanche joseki
Wook [-\]: scribe read: "go the easy way?" :)
swilks [7k\]: yes
]
(;B[qn]CR[qn]
;W[qp]CR[qp]
(;B[pn]CR[pn]C[Kerrick [16k\]: hoshi
]
;W[nq]CR[nq]C[Scribe [-\]: black has two ways: n4 for moyo and f17 for territory
]
;B[qj]CR[qj]C[wingnut [-\]: cramped
]
;W[qf]CR[qf]C[goglu [-\]: I like white
agui [8k\]: no
wingnut [-\]: no
swilks [7k\]: no
Kerrick [16k\]: black looks more concentrated
seidelin [8k\]: why not
Scribe [-\]: no black playing for territory on rigth and influence on left
Scribe [-\]: not coordinated
Wook [-\]: yes
wingnut [-\]: 50 years ago there was no Komi
Scribe [-\]: ?
]
;B[dj]CR[dj]C[Scribe [-\]: possible way to play 50 years ago, when there was no komi
abbadan [?\]: yes
]
;W[jd]CR[jd]C[Scribe [-\]: f17 opens white
]
(;B[jp]LB[fq:A][jr:B]TR[jp][nq]C[swilks [7k\]: what about q4 for black rather than r6?
Scribe [-\]: try for avalanche joseki 
swilks [7k\]: with 2 star points on left, ok to start avalanche variations
wingnut [-\]: don't like K4 
DrGoPlayer [-\]: at least at k3
Scribe [-\]: k4 is open below due to o3
Jonii [4k\]: I'd die if i'd be white
Astone [12k\]: not so much
fauli [11k\]: why is o3 bad for k4 ?
swilks [7k\]: was d10 as big as k16?
wingnut [-\]: W O3 prohibits B's development on the bottom side 
Scribe [-\]: o3 makes it easy for white to invade at f3
DrGoPlayer [-\]: o3 makes w invasion too easy
fauli [11k\]: ok
wingnut [-\]: game
Scribe [-\]: easy for white to live at 3x3 and open skirt
]
(;W[fq]CR[fq])
(;W[cf]CR[cf]C[kimba [7k\]: why not f17 instead of c14 ??
wingnut [-\]: wrong direction
au2 [3k\]: F17 better ?
]
;B[ce]CR[ce]C[swilks [7k\]: f17
]
;W[df]CR[df]C[Scribe [-\]: bad result for white, many moves, little territory
]
;B[fd]CR[fd]C[Kerrick [16k\]: hmmm 3rd line?
goglu [-\]: C14 
wingnut [-\]: C14 
jiku [11k\]: is that the wrong side?
Scribe [-\]: black k4 is mistake in direction
]
(;W[dh]CR[dh]C[wingnut [-\]: heavy group
]
;B[ci]CR[ci]C[TheUnknown [14k?\]: kind'a small
]
;W[gg]CR[gg]
(;B[hd]CR[hd]
;W[ig]CR[ig])
(;B[dn]CR[dn]))
(;W[fc]CR[fc]))
(;W[fc]CR[fc]C[Scribe [-\]: early on r14 in place of r15 to deny black two space extension
swilks [7k\]: why not invade at f3 and try to isolate k4 stone?
]
;B[df]CR[df]
(;W[cn]CR[cn]C[Scribe [-\]: white c14 is mistake in direction
kimba [7k\]: no
jiku [11k\]: no
Sekimoto [12k\]: what can w do with C6 ?
frst [1k?\]: no
os69os [7k\]: if Bq6 is q7 Bn4 still work for MOYO game?
]
;B[co]CR[co]
;W[dn]CR[dn]
;B[fp]CR[fp]C[Scribe [-\]: this is okay for white
]
;W[cl]CR[cl]TR[hc][ic][cf][cg][dg][ch][dh][fq][gq][er][fr][jr]C[Scribe [-\]: first white builds top, then forces black to take small bottom that is hard to develope
wingnut [-\]: 3-3 still open
swilks [7k\]: yes
Parr [16k\]: yes
agui [8k\]: yes 
Kerrick [16k\]: yes
jiku [11k\]: wht are the triangles?
]
;B[cj]CR[cj]
;W[ek]CR[ek]C[Scribe [-\]: f3 is wrong direction for white
TheUnknown [14k?\]: strengthening black, isnt it?
]
(;B[jq]CR[jq]
;W[cq]CR[cq])
(;B[bo]CR[bo]
;W[jr]CR[jr]))
(;W[fq]CR[fq]C[swilks [7k\]: yes
]
;B[eq]CR[eq]C[Parr [16k\]: waisted move
]
;W[fp]CR[fp]C[frst [1k?\]: f5
TheUnknown [14k?\]: ok, maybe not ---'
]
;B[dn]CR[dn]
;W[hp]CR[hp]
;B[er]CR[er]
;W[jr]CR[jr]C[Scribe [-\]: now white cant play k2 any more
])
(;W[cq]CR[cq]C[agui [8k\]: no
wingnut [-\]: not good
TheUnknown [14k?\]: nah
Parr [16k\]: to soon
]
(;B[cp]CR[cp]C[kimba [7k\]: no
jiku [11k\]: no
frst [1k?\]: c4
swilks [7k\]: outside seems too big
Kerrick [16k\]: too early
Scribe [-\]: white c6 breaks up left side and forces black to take bottom which is still open to o3
]
;W[dq]CR[dq]C[Scribe [-\]: black tries to take dsente
]
(;B[eq]CR[eq]
;W[er]CR[er]C[Scribe [-\]: black must block c4
]
(;B[fq]CR[fq]
;W[fr]CR[fr]
;B[gq]CR[gq]C[Scribe [-\]: good enough for black
]
;W[bp]CR[bp]
;B[bo]CR[bo]
;W[bq]CR[bq]
;B[cn]CR[cn])
(;B[fr]CR[fr]C[Scribe [-\]: black must not double hane
Scribe [-\]: yon ren sei
]
(;W[fq]CR[fq]
;B[ep]CR[ep]
;W[gr]CR[gr]
(;B[fp]CR[fp]C[kimba [7k\]: no
pytrium [9k\]: why not black d2?
]
;W[fs]CR[fs]
;B[gq]CR[gq]
;W[fr]CR[fr]C[swilks [7k\]: no
goglu [-\]: white will play B4 
])
(;B[dr]CR[dr]
;W[fs]CR[fs]
;B[cr]CR[cr]))
(;W[bp]CR[bp]
;B[bo]CR[bo]
;W[co]CR[co]TR[dj]
(;B[do]CR[do]C[Scribe [-\]: because of d10 white cant cut at c5
]
;W[bq]CR[bq]
(;B[fp]CR[fp]
;W[cn]CR[cn]TR[dj]C[Scribe [-\]: were black at c10, white cut at c5 would not work
]
;B[bn]CR[bn]
;W[cm]CR[cm]
;B[bm]CR[bm]
;W[cl]CR[cl]
;B[bl]CR[bl]
;W[ck]CR[ck]LB[cj:A]TR[dj]C[os69os [7k\]: if Bq6 is q7  Bn4 still OK for MOYO?
])
(;B[cn]CR[cn]
;W[fq]CR[fq]
;B[ep]CR[ep]
;W[gr]CR[gr]
;B[fp]CR[fp]C[Scribe [-\]: good for white, balck can not kill white stones in corner
]
;W[gq]CR[gq]TR[co][fr]C[Scribe [-\]: d2 does not work
]))
(;B[ep]CR[ep]C[Yoru [13k\]: yeah
]
;W[bn]CR[bn]C[pytrium [9k\]: yes
wingnut [-\]: clear
agui [8k\]: yes
Kerrick [16k\]: yes
Fjunas [15k?\]: yes
jiku [11k\]: yes
swilks [7k\]: yes
]
;B[bq]CR[bq]
;W[ao]CR[ao]
;B[br]CR[br]
;W[cl]CR[cl]C[Scribe [-\]: now black moyo is completely gone
]))))
(;B[fq]CR[fq]C[frst [1k?\]: f4
]
;W[fr]CR[fr]
;B[ep]CR[ep]))
(;B[dq]CR[dq]C[rarr [5k?\]: c4
jiku [11k\]: C4
seidelin [8k\]: c4
kimba [7k\]: c4
agui [8k\]: c4
]))))
(;B[mp]CR[mp]
;W[np]CR[np]
;B[mn]CR[mn]C[wingnut [-\]: moyo move
Scribe [-\]: moyo game
])
(;B[fc]CR[fc]C[Scribe [-\]: f17 has good continuation at m17
]
;W[md]CR[md]
;B[jb]CR[jb])
(;B[fq]CR[fq]C[DrGoPlayer [-\]: n4 for big moyo game
Scribe [-\]: f17 bigger than f3 due to o3 stone
]))
(;B[pm]CR[pm]
;W[nq]CR[nq]
(;B[qf]CR[qf])
(;B[qi]CR[qi]
;W[qf]CR[qf]
;B[dj]CR[dj]
;W[jd]CR[jd]
;B[mp]CR[mp]C[Kerrick [16k\]: i say yes
]
(;W[oo]CR[oo]
;B[mn]CR[mn])
(;W[np]CR[np]
;B[mn]CR[mn]C[Scribe [-\]: still works for black
Scribe [-\]: moyo game stay consistent
]
;W[lp]CR[lp]C[kimba [7k\]: ouch
]
(;B[mo]CR[mo])
(;B[mq]CR[mq]C[braincrash [?\]: push
swilks [7k\]: n3
wingnut [-\]: hmm
]
;W[mo]CR[mo]C[wingnut [-\]: eeek
])
(;B[lo]CR[lo]
;W[lq]CR[lq]C[wingnut [-\]: tiger
]
;B[jo]CR[jo]C[Scribe [-\]: only way for black
]))
(;W[mq]CR[mq]
;B[kp]CR[kp]))))
(;B[pp]CR[pp]C[swilks [7k\]: yes
]
;W[qp]CR[qp]
;B[oq]CR[oq]))
(;B[pd]CR[pd]
(;W[dd]CR[dd]
;B[pq]CR[pq]
;W[dp]CR[dp]C[wingnut [-\]: marked points possible invasion points
]
;B[qk]CR[qk]
(;W[po]CR[po]C[swilks [7k\]: no
jiku [11k\]: not so good
seidelin [8k\]: the just mark the areas we are talking about
Scribe [-\]: too early for white to play here 
DrGoPlayer [-\]: too early for these invasions
])
(;W[qf]CR[qf]))
(;W[cp]CR[cp]
;B[pp]CR[pp]
;W[dc]CR[dc]
;B[ce]CR[ce]
;W[cg]CR[cg]
;B[ee]CR[ee]C[DrGoPlayer [-\]: f16
]
(;W[fc]CR[fc]C[Scribe [-\]: slow ?
abbadan [?\]: no
]
(;B[bc]CR[bc]C[Scribe [-\]: b2 gives black a chance to improve 
]
(;W[bb]CR[bb]
;B[cc]CR[cc]
(;W[cb]CR[cb]
;B[dd]CR[dd]C[Kerrick [16k\]: b should attack lower left now?
]
;W[ec]CR[ec]C[Scribe [-\]: bad for white
wingnut [-\]: good for B
ticktock [14k\]: good for black
agui [8k\]: very good for black
kimba [7k\]: overconcentrated
Scribe [-\]: white b18 would give black a chance to make b17 good
Scribe [-\]: low pincer at c10 better ?
]
(;B[dj]CR[dj]LB[ge:A]C[wingnut [-\]: why pincer at D10 as opposed to other pincers?
Zalfor [5k\]: make b overconcentrated
wingnut [-\]: if you want to eat a chicken - make it a big chicken :)
Scribe [-\]: hard for white to give up c13 now
Scribe [-\]: white slide to b10 ?
])
(;B[dh]CR[dh]C[Scribe [-\]: Mingjiu, black plays high at d10 in place of c10 to work with right side star point stones ?
Scribe [-\]: why d10 in place of c10
wingnut [-\]: lol
]
(;W[dj]CR[dj]
;B[ch]CR[ch]
;W[bj]CR[bj]
;B[bh]CR[bh]C[wingnut [-\]: no
Zalfor [5k\]: man
Zalfor [5k\]: thats ownage
])
(;W[ci]CR[ci]
;B[ej]CR[ej]
;W[dk]CR[dk]
;B[ek]CR[ek]
;W[dl]CR[dl]C[agui [8k\]: yes thanks
]
;B[hc]CR[hc]C[wingnut [-\]: clear
])
(;W[qn]CR[qn]
;B[ro]CR[ro]C[Zalfor [5k\]: Q19
ticktock [14k\]: Q10
Zalfor [5k\]: Q10
wingnut [-\]: O3 or R9 
Zalfor [5k\]: srry, Q10
Zalfor [5k\]: mistype
Scribe [-\]: typo 
Astone [12k\]: he means q 9 I think
]
(;W[qf]CR[qf]C[Zalfor [5k\]: r12
agui [8k\]: Black r10
Scribe [-\]: r12 is wrong move by black, white will one point jump out
]
(;B[qh]CR[qh]C[Zalfor [5k\]: w r10
]
(;W[qc]CR[qc]
;B[qd]CR[qd]
;W[pc]CR[pc]
;B[od]CR[od]
;W[rd]CR[rd]
;B[re]CR[re]
;W[rc]CR[rc]
;B[qe]CR[qe]
;W[nc]CR[nc]
;B[ql]CR[ql]C[Scribe [-\]: not good for white
ticktock [14k\]: no
goglu [-\]: white is low on top
Zalfor [5k\]: who is playing?
wingnut [-\]: and have it riped apart :p
wingnut [-\]: ripped
seidelin [8k\]: these last weeks lesssons have been really good
wrong [2d?\]: can we send kifu ^_^
fauli [11k\]: only his name ^^
])
(;W[of]CR[of]
;B[nd]CR[nd]
;W[pi]CR[pi]C[Scribe [-\]: play the proper move, dont set trick move traps for your opponent
wingnut [-\]: homework
]
(;B[qi]CR[qi]
;W[pj]CR[pj]
;B[ph]CR[ph]
;W[oh]CR[oh]
;B[qj]CR[qj]
;W[pk]CR[pk]C[Zalfor [5k\]: b screwed
])
(;B[qe]CR[qe]
;W[qi]CR[qi]
;B[rf]CR[rf]
;W[qg]CR[qg]
;B[rg]CR[rg]
;W[rh]CR[rh]LB[qn:A][ro:B]C[Scribe [-\]: okay for white
])))
(;B[pj]CR[pj])
(;B[pi]CR[pi]))
(;W[pj]CR[pj])
(;W[pk]CR[pk]C[abbadan [?\]: yes
]))))
(;W[dd]CR[dd]C[abbadan [?\]: w
wingnut [-\]: D16 key move
]
(;B[de]CR[de]
;W[cb]CR[cb]C[agui [8k\]: black
Florian [6k\]: w
wingnut [-\]: B
Arkdragon [11k\]: black
raenef [-\]: w
])
(;B[cf]CR[cf]
;W[cb]CR[cb]C[Arkdragon [11k\]: u can still put pressure on the white stone
]
;B[ch]CR[ch])))
(;W[ic]CR[ic]C[Scribe [-\]: black b17 is slow move
]
;B[cb]CR[cb]
;W[be]CR[be]))
(;B[dj]CR[dj]C[wingnut [-\]: Black should pincer the W C13 stone, the slide into the corner is not urgent
]
;W[eg]CR[eg]
;B[ge]CR[ge]C[Scribe [-\]: white b18 not b2
])
(;B[cc]CR[cc]C[wingnut [-\]: D16 
Zalfor [5k\]: yes?
]
(;W[cb]CR[cb]
;B[dd]CR[dd]
;W[ec]CR[ec]
;B[bc]CR[bc]
;W[ic]CR[ic]C[ticktock [14k\]: That's a dream
])
(;W[dd]CR[dd]
(;B[cd]CR[cd]
;W[de]CR[de])
(;B[de]CR[de]
;W[cd]CR[cd]C[Zalfor [5k\]: bummer
]))))
(;W[fd]CR[fd])
(;W[gc]CR[gc]C[DrGoPlayer [-\]: f17 for w?
]
(;B[fd]CR[fd]
;W[fc]CR[fc]
;B[cc]CR[cc]C[Scribe [-\]: joseki
]
;W[cb]CR[cb]C[Kerrick [16k\]: it would be joseki for 4x4 stone
]
;B[dd]CR[dd]
;W[ec]CR[ec]
;B[bc]CR[bc]
;W[jc]CR[jc])
(;B[ge]CR[ge]))))
(;B[pq]CR[pq]
;W[po]CR[po]
;B[pl]CR[pl]
(;W[oq]CR[oq]
(;B[op]CR[op])
(;B[or]CR[or])
(;B[pp]CR[pp]
;W[op]CR[op]
;B[oo]CR[oo]TR[jp]
(;W[pr]CR[pr]
;B[qr]CR[qr]C[Scribe [-\]: impossible move for what p3 when black as k4
]
;W[or]CR[or]
;B[qo]CR[qo]
;W[pn]CR[pn]
(;B[qn]CR[qn]C[swilks [7k\]: joseki isn't it?
Alzheimer8 [20k?\]: no
]
;W[qm]CR[qm]
;B[pm]CR[pm]
;W[on]CR[on]
(;B[no]CR[no]
;W[nn]CR[nn]C[Scribe [-\]: white punishes
])
(;B[rm]CR[rm]
;W[no]CR[no]C[wingnut [-\]: W better
Scribe [-\]: white gets more than black
]))
(;B[on]CR[on]
;W[qn]CR[qn]
;B[ro]CR[ro]C[seidelin [8k\]: black
kimba [7k\]: b
kimba [7k\]: yup
seidelin [8k\]: after w r8
]
(;W[rn]CR[rn]
;B[rq]CR[rq]
(;W[om]CR[om]
(;B[pm]CR[pm]
;W[nn]CR[nn])
(;B[nm]CR[nm]
;W[pm]CR[pm]
;B[ol]CR[ol]
;W[nn]CR[nn]C[jiku [11k\]: no
]
;B[no]CR[no]
;W[mn]CR[mn]
;B[mo]CR[mo]C[kimba [7k\]: noo
jiku [11k\]: no
]))
(;W[ql]CR[ql]
(;B[pm]CR[pm]C[seidelin [8k\]: s6
]
;W[qk]CR[qk]TR[om][pm]C[Scribe [-\]: bad for black on outside
jiku [11k\]: p7
agui [8k\]: p7
Scribe [-\]: p7 is correct move
])
(;B[om]CR[om]
;W[qk]CR[qk]
;B[lp]CR[lp])))
(;W[ql]CR[ql]C[agui [8k\]: s6
Yoru [13k\]: s6?
wingnut [-\]: R9 ?
kimba [7k\]: s6
Scribe [-\]: (previous variation) this fighting is hard for white, white has two weak groups
impulse [9k\]: q7?
frst [1k?\]: r7
MRX1 [14k\]: R7
rarr [5k?\]: r7
goglu [-\]: P7 
abbadan [?\]: p7
Scribe [-\]: q7 missed opportunity
]
(;B[pm]CR[pm]
;W[rn]CR[rn]
;B[rq]CR[rq]
;W[qk]CR[qk]C[jiku [11k\]: R7
])
(;B[om]CR[om]C[Scribe [-\]: p7 is enough for blakc, white two weak groups
seidelin [8k\]: what about s6 before p7? bad?
]
(;W[rn]CR[rn]
;B[rq]CR[rq]C[seidelin [8k\]: s6?
])
(;W[rr]CR[rr]
;B[rq]CR[rq]
;W[qs]CR[qs]
;B[qq]CR[qq]
;W[rn]CR[rn]
;B[qk]CR[qk]C[agui [8k\]: 4
wingnut [-\]: 4
jiku [11k\]: 4
]
(;W[rs]CR[rs]C[Scribe [-\]: white s2 is nothing
]
(;B[rm]CR[rm]
;W[sn]CR[sn]C[goglu [-\]: R7 
bluremi [4k\]: Q7
]
;B[qm]CR[qm]C[bluremi [4k\]: R7 i mean
jiku [11k\]: R7
]
;W[sp]CR[sp]C[frst [1k?\]: t4
])
(;B[sp]CR[sp]C[Scribe [-\]: black t4 is enough
]
(;W[rl]CR[rl]
;B[rk]CR[rk]
;W[pm]CR[pm]
;B[ol]CR[ol]
(;W[sm]CR[sm]
;B[lp]CR[lp]C[swilks [7k\]: no
rarr [5k?\]: bad for white
kimba [7k\]: no
wingnut [-\]: no
Scribe [-\]: maybe seki inside
])
(;W[sn]CR[sn]
;B[rm]CR[rm]
;W[sm]CR[sm]
;B[sk]CR[sk]C[Scribe [-\]: white dead
wingnut [-\]: W T6 is a mistake
]))
(;W[sn]CR[sn]
;B[qm]CR[qm]
;W[sr]CR[sr]
;B[rm]CR[rm])))
(;W[sp]CR[sp]C[Scribe [-\]: black t4 is enough
]
;B[rs]CR[rs]
;W[ss]CR[ss]
;B[rp]CR[rp]C[wingnut [-\]: ouch
]
(;W[sq]CR[sq]
;B[so]CR[so])
(;W[so]CR[so]
;B[sq]CR[sq]))
(;W[sq]CR[sq]
;B[sp]CR[sp]
;W[ss]CR[ss]))
(;W[qk]CR[qk]
(;B[qm]CR[qm]
;W[rn]CR[rn]
;B[rm]CR[rm]
;W[qp]CR[qp])
(;B[rn]CR[rn]
;W[qm]CR[qm]
;B[lp]CR[lp]
;W[rr]CR[rr]
;B[rq]CR[rq]
;W[qs]CR[qs]
;B[qq]CR[qq]
;W[rs]CR[rs]
;B[rm]CR[rm])
(;B[rq]CR[rq]
;W[rn]CR[rn]
;B[lp]CR[lp])))
(;B[rn]CR[rn]
;W[qm]CR[qm]
(;B[om]CR[om])
(;B[mo]CR[mo])))))
(;W[pn]CR[pn]
;B[on]CR[on]
;W[om]CR[om]
;B[nm]CR[nm]
;W[pm]CR[pm]
;B[ol]CR[ol]
;W[ql]CR[ql]C[Scribe [-\]: white must extend at q6, white cant not play q2
]
;B[qk]CR[qk]
;W[rm]CR[rm])))
(;W[]C[Scribe [-\]: joseki question
]
;B[jp]CR[jp]
;W[oq]CR[oq]))
(;B[rc]CR[rc]
;W[rd]CR[rd]
;B[ra]CR[ra]
;W[re]CR[re]
;B[pb]CR[pb]
;W[pd]CR[pd]
;B[oa]CR[oa]
;W[nb]CR[nb]
;B[aa]CR[aa]
;W[oc]CR[oc]
;B[ab]CR[ab]
;W[na]CR[na]
;B[ac]CR[ac]
;W[nd]CR[nd]
;B[sr]CR[sr]
;W[rq]CR[rq]C[pytrium [9k\]: yes
]
;B[rr]CR[rr]
;W[rp]CR[rp]
;B[qq]CR[qq]
;W[qp]CR[qp]
;B[pr]CR[pr]
;W[pp]CR[pp]
;B[ad]CR[ad]
;W[oq]CR[oq]
;B[ae]CR[ae]
;W[nq]CR[nq]
;B[af]CR[af]
;W[mr]CR[mr]TR[ag]
;B[ag]CR[ag]
;W[lq]CR[lq]LB[lc:A][ko:B]TR[pq][nr][or][qr][ms][ns][os][rs]C[fauli [11k\]: black can resign ^^
abbadan [?\]: no
bluremi [4k\]: Q3
jiku [11k\]: yes
Florian [6k\]: no
seidelin [8k\]: unless he is sure to win ko =)
noel [13k\]: 4
os69os [7k\]: 8for B9 for A
noel [13k\]: S1
noel [13k\]: Q3
noel [13k\]: maybe Q1
noel [13k\]: or P1
noel [13k\]: :)
jiku [11k\]: S1
bluremi [4k\]: i think noel got 'em all
abbadan [?\]: p2
noel [13k\]: ...got em all wrong?
TheUnknown [14k?\]: p2
Keido [14k?\]: B - 8 ways
Wook [-\]: show us keido :)
otakesan [9k?\]: p2
Keido [14k?\]: N1
wingnut [-\]: 8
Scribe [-\]: B: white ways to kill: N1, O1, O2, P1, P2, Q3, R2, S1  8 ways! 
wingnut [-\]: look at S1?
][fauli [11k\]: black can resign ^^
abbadan [?\]: no
bluremi [4k\]: Q3
jiku [11k\]: yes
Florian [6k\]: no
seidelin [8k\]: unless he is sure to win ko =)
noel [13k\]: 4
os69os [7k\]: 8for B9 for A
noel [13k\]: S1
noel [13k\]: Q3
noel [13k\]: maybe Q1
noel [13k\]: or P1
noel [13k\]: :)
jiku [11k\]: S1
bluremi [4k\]: i think noel got 'em all
abbadan [?\]: p2
noel [13k\]: ...got em all wrong?
TheUnknown [14k?\]: p2
Keido [14k?\]: B - 8 ways
Wook [-\]: show us keido :)
otakesan [9k?\]: p2
Keido [14k?\]: N1
]
(;B[bs]CR[bs]
;W[cr]CR[cr]
;B[br]CR[br]
(;W[cq]CR[cq])
(;W[dr]CR[dr]
;B[cq]CR[cq]
;W[dq]CR[dq]
;B[bp]CR[bp]
;W[dp]CR[dp]
;B[ba]CR[ba]
;W[co]CR[co]
;B[ca]CR[ca]
;W[bn]CR[bn]
(;B[cm]CR[cm])
(;B[da]CR[da]
;W[cm]CR[cm]LB[dj:A])))
(;B[pq]CR[pq]
;W[ps]CR[ps]C[Scribe [-\]: B: white cant not tenuki
]
;B[or]CR[or]
;W[rs]CR[rs]
;B[qs]CR[qs]C[wingnut [-\]: ko
Scribe [-\]: after q3 black will get a ko
])
(;B[]
(;W[ms]CR[ms]C[frst [1k?\]: o1
os69os [7k\]: work
TheUnknown [14k?\]: yup
]
;B[pq]CR[pq]C[raenef [-\]: work
seidelin [8k\]: didnt we do this last week?
]
;W[ps]CR[ps]
;B[or]CR[or]
(;W[rs]CR[rs]
;B[qs]CR[qs])
(;W[os]CR[os]))
(;W[ps]CR[ps]
;B[or]CR[or]
(;W[rs]CR[rs]
;B[qs]CR[qs])
(;W[pq]CR[pq]
;B[qs]CR[qs]C[wingnut [-\]: bo q's
wingnut [-\]: no
frst [1k?\]: B live
])))
(;B[ah]CR[ah]
;W[pq]CR[pq]
;B[qr]CR[qr]))
(;B[rd]CR[rd]
;W[qd]CR[qd]
;B[qc]CR[qc]
;W[qe]CR[qe]
;B[re]CR[re]
;W[qf]CR[qf]
;B[pc]CR[pc]
(;W[aa]CR[aa])
(;W[od]CR[od]
;B[aa]CR[aa]
;W[oc]CR[oc]
;B[ab]CR[ab]
;W[rf]CR[rf]
;B[ac]CR[ac]
;W[mc]CR[mc]C[Zalfor [5k\]: Sating!
wrong [2d?\]: yes
Idn [3k?\]: that is the probleme ?
agui [8k\]: ok thanks
]
;B[rq]CR[rq]
;W[rp]CR[rp]
;B[qq]CR[qq]
;W[qp]CR[qp]C[Scribe [-\]: Homework, How many ways can white attack Black
]
;B[pr]CR[pr]
;W[pq]CR[pq]
;B[ae]CR[ae]C[Idn [3k?\]: oki ^^
]
;W[oq]CR[oq]
;B[or]CR[or]
;W[nq]CR[nq]
;B[ad]CR[ad]
;W[nr]CR[nr]
;B[rs]CR[rs]
;W[ql]CR[ql]C[wrong [2d?\]: 'm setting up positions on my board^^
]
;B[af]CR[af]
;W[jq]CR[jq]LB[ke:A][ln:B]C[Zalfor [5k\]: w's winning
wingnut [-\]: ok, thanks
Kerrick [16k\]: thank you very much
au2 [3k\]: THANKS TO ING FOUNDATION
Bodo212 [14k?\]: thx
biebie [14k?\]: Thanks
agui [8k\]: Thank you very much
Alzheimer8 [20k?\]: thx
pytrium [9k\]: thx
Idn [3k?\]: thx very much
Fjunas [15k?\]: thanks :)
kirschi [16k\]: thanks
Janez [2k\]: thx
Zalfor [5k\]: thanks
Q [9k\]: thanks
Zalfor [5k\]: :)
wrong [2d?\]: he he, maybe mingjiu liao shi should give us exam ^_^
wingnut [-\]: thanks Mingjiu and Ing Goe foundation 
au2 [3k\]: THANKS FOR A NICE LECTURE
Scribe [-\]: Xiexie Mingjiu laoshi
seidelin [8k\]: thank you
snowmen [2d\]: thx
fauli [11k\]: thanks
Scribe [-\]: Thanks to Ing Goe Foundation
au2 [3k\]: thanks to Scribe
wrong [2d?\]: thank You mingjiu liao shi, thanks to Ing foundation too
os69os [7k\]: thank you for good lesson
wingnut [-\]: byeee
agui [8k\]: See you
Q [9k\]: thanks, bye
Kerrick [16k\]: good bye
biebie [14k?\]: bye
abbadan [?\]: thanks, see xou nest week
Keido [14k?\]: bye
])))