(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1650]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[jujo]PB[jujo]WR[9p]BR[9p]DT[2005-08-14]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[Sjoerd [14k\]: hi
fab [1k\]: yes
Sjoerd [14k\]: yes
agui [7k\]: Hello, yes clearly !
SunWuKong [3k\]: yes
]
;B[qd]CR[qd]
;W[dd]CR[dd]
;B[pq]CR[pq]
;W[oc]CR[oc]C[agui [7k\]: no problem
]
;B[kd]CR[kd]
;W[po]CR[po]
;B[pc]CR[pc]
;W[qq]CR[qq]
;B[dp]CR[dp]C[AKkun [6k\]: it's ok
]
;W[gc]CR[gc]C[xDarigaaz [14k\]: np
AKkun [6k\]: we dont mind ^^
]
;B[od]CR[od]
;W[pp]CR[pp]
;B[oq]CR[oq]
;W[qr]CR[qr]
;B[qj]CR[qj]
;W[lq]CR[lq]C[wrong [2d?\]: should we blame M$ for this :(
Sora2882 [14k?\]: yea its koo
AKkun [6k\]: we are getting a free lesson after all...
Secretmana [27k?\]: Yeah...
olczyk [15k\]: He uses Solaris :)
]
(;B[gq]CR[gq]C[braincrash [?\]: there was some question
]
;W[ql]CR[ql]
;B[mp]CR[mp]C[olczyk [15k\]: Is M3 not to big because of aji left by P3?
]
;W[lp]CR[lp]C[braincrash [?\]: if p3 is absolutely dead now?
]
;B[mn]CR[mn]C[xDarigaaz [14k\]: nice
]
;W[lo]CR[lo]
;B[on]CR[on]C[KosiarZ [?\]: i think its not
]
;W[mo]CR[mo]
;B[op]CR[op]
;W[pm]CR[pm]C[AKkun [6k\]: interesting
]
;B[om]CR[om])
(;B[qm]CR[qm]C[Scribe [-\]: real gmae
]
;W[fq]CR[fq]
;B[cn]CR[cn]
;W[dr]CR[dr]C[Scribe [-\]: jujo does not like allowing white to make f3 kakari
]
(;B[ro]CR[ro])
(;B[cq]CR[cq]
;W[hp]CR[hp])
(;B[lo]CR[lo]
(;W[np]CR[np]C[Scribe [-\]: white has good shape after the black c3, h4 exchange
Scribe [-\]: real game
Scribe [-\]: white kjills the two stones completely with o4
Scribe [-\]: white leads in territory at this time
]
;B[ci]CR[ci]
;W[fo]CR[fo]C[Sora2882 [14k?\]: looks like the net for some reason
Sora2882 [14k?\]: is it?
fauli [10k\]: why c11?
Scribe [-\]: real game
]
;B[kq]CR[kq]C[AKkun [6k\]: somehow i think black is leading
]
(;W[kr]CR[kr]C[Scribe [-\]: black must prevent white from finishing the bottom creating more territory
Scribe [-\]: real game
]
;B[lr]CR[lr]
(;W[mr]CR[mr]C[Sora2882 [14k?\]: i see that
]
(;B[mq]CR[mq]
(;W[ls]CR[ls]C[Sora2882 [14k?\]: yea, b is leading by 20=points
]
;B[lp]CR[lp]
;W[lr]CR[lr]
;B[nq]CR[nq]C[Scribe [-\]: white must not atari at n2
Scribe [-\]: terrible for whtie
]
;W[mp]CR[mp]
;B[op]CR[op])
(;W[lp]CR[lp]
;B[mp]CR[mp]
;W[kp]CR[kp]))
(;B[lp]CR[lp]C[Scribe [-\]: another path to balck success
]
(;W[ls]CR[ls]
;B[mq]CR[mq]
;W[lr]CR[lr]
;B[nq]CR[nq])
(;W[mq]CR[mq]
;B[jr]CR[jr]
;W[ls]CR[ls]
;B[jp]CR[jp]C[Scribe [-\]: white must connect at n3
Scribe [-\]: also good for black
])))
(;W[kp]CR[kp]
(;B[mq]CR[mq]C[Scribe [-\]: white has territory and the aji of the cut at n5
]
;W[lp]CR[lp]
;B[mp]CR[mp]
;W[mr]CR[mr]
;B[ko]CR[ko]
;W[jp]CR[jp]
;B[nq]CR[nq]
;W[mo]CR[mo]C[Scribe [-\]: good for white
])
(;B[jq]CR[jq]
;W[lp]CR[lp]C[Scribe [-\]: real game
gootik [13k?\]: scribe: thanks for your job
Scribe [-\]: black has very difficult decision here
ligo [?\]: n2
PLP [2k?\]: k4?
gootik [13k?\]: g4
AKkun [6k\]: K2
NoSide [6k\]: k4?
SinCity [1k\]: tenuki (-:
Scribe [-\]: g4 then jump out at j5 ?
wrong [2d?\]: j4?
hansb [3k?\]: play E3 first?
]
(;B[jr]CR[jr]
;W[mr]CR[mr]
;B[ks]CR[ks]
;W[cq]CR[cq])
(;B[mr]CR[mr]
;W[jr]CR[jr]
;B[ir]CR[ir]
;W[iq]CR[iq]C[Scribe [-\]: black lost both sides
]
;B[jp]CR[jp]
;W[hr]CR[hr]
;B[ko]CR[ko]
;W[nq]CR[nq])
(;B[jp]CR[jp]
;W[jr]CR[jr]
;B[ir]CR[ir]
;W[mr]CR[mr]C[tuesday: g3
hansb [3k?\]: O3
Scribe [-\]: still good for whtie
])
(;B[gq]CR[gq]
(;W[gp]CR[gp]
;B[mr]CR[mr]
;W[jr]CR[jr]
;B[iq]CR[iq]
;W[ir]CR[ir]C[Scribe [-\]: fixed...white two stones die
]
;B[hr]CR[hr]C[Sora2882 [14k?\]: this is a stupid 1 on my part but N3
])
(;W[jr]CR[jr]
;B[eq]CR[eq]
(;W[fr]CR[fr]C[Scribe [-\]: but white may not answer g3 playing k2 in place
]
;B[fp]CR[fp]
;W[gp]CR[gp]
;B[ep]CR[ep]
;W[hq]CR[hq])
(;W[ep]CR[ep]
;B[fr]CR[fr]
;W[fp]CR[fp]
;B[iq]CR[iq]C[Scribe [-\]: g3 good thinking but does not work at this time
]
;W[mr]CR[mr]
;B[er]CR[er]C[Scribe [-\]: black gets big corner
])))
(;B[gp]CR[gp]C[wrong [2d?\]: j4?
gootik [13k?\]: scribe: i agree
]
;W[fp]CR[fp]C[boromake [1k\]: H3?
Scribe [-\]: interesting thinking g3 but does not work yet
olczyk [15k\]: aji keshi
])
(;B[eq]CR[eq]C[Scribe [-\]: real game
olczyk [15k\]: Oh oh. Jujo sounds like chipmonk.
gootik [13k?\]: LOL
wrong [2d?\]: to get good position, reverse the order of moves^^
Sora2882 [14k?\]: thats your sound card
fab [1k\]: just quit the game and come back, olczyk
Hu [12k\]: Stick to the game, olczyk.
tuesday: w F2?
Sora2882 [14k?\]: what if black plays at f4?
]
(;W[fr]CR[fr]
;B[jr]CR[jr]
;W[mr]CR[mr]
;B[ks]CR[ks]C[Sora2882 [14k?\]: im sorry white playing f4
Sora2882 [14k?\]: lol
]
;W[cq]CR[cq]
;B[cp]CR[cp]
;W[io]CR[io]
;B[hq]CR[hq]C[Scribe [-\]: e3/f2 good exchange for black
]
;W[ce]CR[ce]
;B[er]CR[er]
;W[es]CR[es]C[Scribe [-\]: white group not alive yet
]
;B[ho]CR[ho]C[kkkskdj [12k\]: do you guys know that the volume of your talk can overload the server?
Scribe [-\]: on the bottom left
])
(;W[ep]CR[ep]C[Sora2882 [14k?\]: what if white plays at f4?
Scribe [-\]: black gains big corner if white f4
]
;B[gq]CR[gq]C[Scribe [-\]: realgame
]
;W[dq]CR[dq]
;B[mr]CR[mr]C[Sora2882 [14k?\]: oh
Sora2882 [14k?\]: ok
]
;W[ck]CR[ck]
;B[cp]CR[cp]
;W[gr]CR[gr]
;B[jp]CR[jp]C[Scribe [-\]: realgame
]
(;W[nq]CR[nq]
;B[nr]CR[nr]C[Sora2882 [14k?\]: soooo...
]
;W[ce]CR[ce]
;B[en]CR[en]
;W[dj]CR[dj]
;B[eo]CR[eo]
;W[fp]CR[fp]
;B[eh]CR[eh]
;W[ei]CR[ei]
(;B[ro]CR[ro]C[Sora2882 [14k?\]: n2 would be the key point here
Scribe [-\]: still pretty even game, but black favored a little
Scribe [-\]: s5 is big black sente
])
(;B[fh]CR[fh]
;W[dh]CR[dh]C[Scribe [-\]: s5 sente due to black saving p3,q3
olczyk [15k\]: What was the game?
ratata [3k\]: game: http://www.go4go.net/v2/modules/collection/sgfview.php?id=6564
NoSide [6k\]: thank you very much for the lesson, mr jujo
au2 [3k\]: THANKS TO ING FOUNDATION
muarw [-\]: thankyou very much
monchacha [13k\]: can we contiinue next time on this
Scribe [-\]: Thanks to Jujo
Out [17k?\]: Thank you.
olczyk [15k\]: Thank you
pilpa: thx
au2 [3k\]: THANKS FOR THE LECTURE
Lotus12 [?\]: Thank you
Scribe [-\]: Xiexie laoshi
Hu [12k\]: Thank you jujo.
sabaki3000 [8k\]: hank you
Q [9k\]: good lesson, thank you
Decaluwe [?\]: thank you
Sjoerd [14k\]: thx
Kerrick [16k\]: thank you for the lesson
swilks [7k\]: thank you.
Secretmana [27k?\]: Thank you Jujo-sama!
hansb [3k?\]: thank you jujo
murky: thanks
au2 [3k\]: BYE
agui [7k\]: thank you very much
Sora2882 [14k?\]: thank you jujo
Pepito [16k?\]: thank you
xDarigaaz [14k\]: thx and bye
Wook [-\]: Thank you very much
lydian [17k?\]: thanks
Verti [20k?\]: Cu
wingnut [-\]: thx Jujo, Ing foundatin
agui [7k\]: see you
malteb [?\]: Thanks
SupRAS [12k\]: thanks
Secretmana [27k?\]: *bows*
Wook [-\]: Bye and have a nice week jujo
Dibbun [13k\]: thanks for lecture
tuesday: thx
monchacha [13k\]: anyone know who own this game
skyu [19k?\]: thx
]))
(;W[ek]CR[ek]
(;B[mp]CR[mp]
;W[mq]CR[mq]
;B[nq]CR[nq]
;W[mo]CR[mo]
;B[ko]CR[ko])
(;B[nq]CR[nq])))
(;W[fp]CR[fp]
;B[er]CR[er])))))
(;W[kp]CR[kp]
;B[lp]CR[lp]C[Scribe [-\]: variation
]
;W[jq]CR[jq]
;B[kr]CR[kr]
;W[mq]CR[mq]C[Sora2882 [14k?\]: the hane, one of the few terms i know
]
;B[jp]CR[jp]
;W[ko]CR[ko]
;B[iq]CR[iq]
;W[jo]CR[jo]
;B[ip]CR[ip]
;W[io]CR[io]C[Wook [-\]: sora fot other term go to http://senseis.xmp.net
]
;B[hr]CR[hr]C[Wook [-\]: alle go terms are explained there
]
;W[cq]CR[cq]
;B[dk]CR[dk]
;W[ce]CR[ce]C[Scribe [-\]: black alive on bottom
]))
(;W[jp]CR[jp]
;B[mq]CR[mq]C[Scribe [-\]: real game black caps at m5
]
;W[cj]CR[cj]
;B[ro]CR[ro]
;W[rp]CR[rp]
;B[qo]CR[qo]
;W[qp]CR[qp]))
(;B[mp]CR[mp]
;W[lp]CR[lp]
;B[mn]CR[mn]
;W[lo]CR[lo]
;B[on]CR[on]C[Verti [20k?\]: what if w play o4 now ?
]
;W[rn]CR[rn]C[Wook [-\]: so basically...M5 in the real game told white "Please kill me" and the M5 stone itself seems to be pretty useless there for now
Scribe [-\]: black does not want this line of play, forces white to live in corner, and have wall at line M facing f3
Scribe [-\]: jujo would replace black r7 with g3
])))