(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1650]OT[5x30 byo-yomi] PW[jujo]PB[jujo]WR[9p]BR[9p]DT[2005-08-28]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/] ;B[qd]CR[qd] ;W[dd]CR[dd] ;B[pp]CR[pp] ;W[dp]CR[dp]C[prvi [2k?\]: HI ] (;B[fc]CR[fc] (;W[hc]CR[hc] ;B[oc]CR[oc] ;W[qj]CR[qj] (;B[cf]CR[cf]C[Scribe [-\]: Yi Sedol Black sergiop [10k\]: Who is white? ] ;W[fd]CR[fd] ;B[cc]CR[cc] (;W[cd]CR[cd] ;B[dc]CR[dc] ;W[ed]CR[ed] (;B[ec]CR[ec]C[prvi [2k?\]: White is Better ] (;W[bc]CR[bc] ;B[bb]CR[bb] ;W[bd]CR[bd]C[Scribe [-\]: White has sente at both a18 and g17 ] (;B[gc]CR[gc] ;W[gd]CR[gd] (;B[hd]CR[hd] ;W[ic]CR[ic]C[Scribe [-\]: Yi Sedol always searches for new moves ] (;B[cj]CR[cj] ;W[ab]CR[ab] ;B[ba]CR[ba]C[zee [12k\]: B cut at h16 is new ] (;W[ch]CR[ch]C[Scribe [-\]: due to j17 this is not real ponnuki therefore not worth full value ] ;B[cn]CR[cn] ;W[fq]CR[fq] ;B[he]CR[he] ;W[gb]CR[gb] ;B[fb]CR[fb]C[Plunder2 [15k\]: ponnuki? kefir: look up japanese expressions at sensei's library (google for that) ] (;W[lc]CR[lc]C[sergiop [10k\]: ponnuki = shape left after a stone is captured Scribe [-\]: j18 could also be sente, white does not want to decide which to play at this time Plunder2 [15k\]: ooohw I remember (1 stone capture =) ) thanks Grimley [7k\]: f14? zee [12k\]: Where for B now? tipi [1d?\]: b12 agui [7k\]: M15 go [11k?\]: H13 au2 [3k\]: r12 babysitter [19k?\]: d13 Washichu [24k?\]: somewhere south? fint: k16 tipi [1d?\]: k16 atman [4k\]: bottom is most open area MysticoN [14k\]: H13 MysticoN [14k\]: E13 Scribe [-\]: white connects underneath at b14 MysticoN [14k\]: hm ] (;B[eh]CR[eh]C[rbsales [11k\]: but w can cut no? sergiop [10k\]: h16-15 doesn't get weak after that? ] (;W[di]CR[di] ;B[cg]CR[cg] ;W[bh]CR[bh]C[zee [12k\]: B expected W d13 ] ;B[bg]CR[bg] ;W[ef]CR[ef] ;B[eg]CR[eg] ;W[gf]CR[gf] ;B[gh]CR[gh]C[Scribe [-\]: white three stones at b12 hard to catch rbsales [11k\]: yeah SupRAS [12k\]: yes Doll [6k\]: can't hear ._. sabaki3000 [8k\]: solved Uvas [-\]: yes Truc [?\]: better now SupRAS [12k\]: yes ] ;W[ci]CR[ci]C[sabaki3000 [8k\]: no ggod sound jerkovicj [5k\]: microphone problems Bodo212 [13k?\]: now again sergiop [10k\]: now yes rambule [13k\]: y babysitter [19k?\]: ok Uvas [-\]: i hear MysticoN [14k\]: yes zee [12k\]: ok now Plunder2 [15k\]: good now =) johnny2bad [3k\]: better now screwloose [12k\]: yes babysitter [19k?\]: ok gaten: yes sabaki3000 [8k\]: top Scribe [-\]: better now.....was dead for about 10 seconds kilroy [9k\]: yes sergiop [10k\]: now yes XuShuyi [22k\]: o.O Janez [3k\]: yes prvi [2k?\]: Yes XuShuyi [22k\]: still nothing.. smuin [?\]: hear u now sabaki3000 [8k\]: hello MugeiMumei [19k\]: yep Tarkam [?\]: good Chruni078 [10k\]: yes jerkovicj [5k\]: nope rbsales [11k\]: now? screwloose [12k\]: helo ligo [?\]: hello zee [12k\]: we hear sergiop [10k\]: ok now ] (;B[dh]CR[dh]C[Woodstock [2k\]: i hear you :) Hu [10k?\]: Sound is good. DnF [6k\]: sound is good Batavia [12k?\]: we hear you SupRAS [12k\]: it's ok Bodo212 [13k?\]: can hear again babysitter [19k?\]: ok rambule [13k\]: can hear u Scribe [-\]: we can hear ] ;W[hf]CR[hf]C[rbsales [11k\]: now no audio! swilks [7k\]: yes ligo [?\]: i hear sergiop [10k\]: sound is back Chruni078 [10k\]: it's ok screwloose [12k\]: yes ok ] ;B[fj]CR[fj]C[sabaki3000 [8k\]: loud and clear ] ;W[dj]CR[dj] (;B[dl]CR[dl]C[Hu [10k?\]: Ignore one or two people who might have a problem. XuShuyi [22k\]: oh.. have to exit the room and come back in zee [12k\]: d8 very good timing flogo [1k\]: what is the use of h16-15 here, just captured stones no ? Scribe [-\]: white c11 makes the game favorable for white Scribe [-\]: attacking: purpose is to make profit ] (;W[ek]CR[ek]C[Scribe [-\]: hard to do that in this game ] ;B[gl]CR[gl] ;W[el]CR[el]C[Scribe [-\]: e7* johnny2bad [3k\]: thx ] (;B[cp]CR[cp] ;W[cq]CR[cq] ;B[do]CR[do]C[Scribe [-\]: not easy for BLACK to make profilt zee [12k\]: When defending, always create problems for opponent ] (;W[ep]CR[ep] (;B[eo]CR[eo] ;W[fm]CR[fm] ;B[gm]CR[gm] ;W[fn]CR[fn] ;B[fo]CR[fo]C[zee [12k\]: B pushes on corner trying to get sente ] ;W[gn]CR[gn] ;B[gq]CR[gq] ;W[bp]CR[bp] ;B[fp]CR[fp] ;W[co]CR[co]C[Scribe [-\]: first white gets the whole corner then returns to running out splitting black ] ;B[bo]CR[bo] ;W[in]CR[in]C[Uvas [-\]: hi sabaki3000 [8k\]: hi dadada [-\]: hi Bodo212 [13k?\]: hello cdub [15k?\]: hi Ahndraniel [14k?\]: hello au2 [3k\]: Hi TheUnknown [13k?\]: helas ^^ VroBanshee [18k?\]: hello jerkovicj [5k\]: hi troll [2k\]: hello kefir: hello! Astone [12k\]: Hi murky: Hi au2 [3k\]: Good morning Uvas [-\]: yes Bodo212 [13k?\]: good afternoon sabaki3000 [8k\]: sound good VroBanshee [18k?\]: yes dadada [-\]: yes au2 [3k\]: sound good ligo [?\]: sound is good Ahndraniel [14k?\]: sound ok kefir: sound is just fine zee [12k\]: not easy for W to make profit ]) (;B[fm]CR[fm] ;W[ck]CR[ck]C[Scribe [-\]: white has c9 to live prvi [2k?\]: c8 Scribe [-\]: both players are fighting players, we can expect many exciting games in the future johnny2bad [3k\]: thank you sabaki3000 [8k\]: thx for your time Scribe [-\]: Thanks to the Ing Goe Foundation murky: thank you au2 [3k\]: THANKS TO ING FOUNDATION agui [7k\]: thank you very much ! Washichu [24k?\]: thx ratata [2k\]: thanks seilen [-\]: thanks rins [13k?\]: Thanks kilroy [9k\]: thank you SupRAS [12k\]: thanx you MugeiMumei [19k\]: thanks kefir: thank you! Ahndraniel [14k?\]: thanks Plunder2 [15k\]: thanks =) pel [10k?\]: thank you - verry interresting! Scribe [-\]: Please review the lesson several times au2 [3k\]: THANKS FOR A GREAT LECTURE Astone [12k\]: Yes, thank you both. SupRAS [12k\]: we too monchacha [13k\]: bye olczyk [15k\]: Thank you. plonk [22k\]: thx au2 [3k\]: BYE dkiller [8k\]: thanks for your lecture Truc [?\]: thanks jujo Woodstock [2k\]: thank you, jujo Scribe [-\]: Xiexie laoshi tibra [10k?\]: thanks au2 [3k\]: thanks Scribe vdust [12k?\]: thanks rins [13k?\]: Thanks Keido [14k?\]: bye prvi [2k?\]: thx agui [7k\]: bye killedbill [?\]: tx for all ])) (;W[fm]CR[fm] (;B[ep]CR[ep] ;W[dq]CR[dq] ;B[eq]CR[eq] ;W[er]CR[er] ;B[fp]CR[fp] ;W[gq]CR[gq] ;B[fr]CR[fr] ;W[dr]CR[dr] ;B[gp]CR[gp]C[seilen [-\]: heh ] ;W[hq]CR[hq] ;B[hp]CR[hp]C[Scribe [-\]: result if white gets scared and plays too solidly flogo [1k\]: zee, let scribe do his jon flogo [1k\]: job* ]) (;B[bp]CR[bp])) (;W[bp]CR[bp] ;B[ep]CR[ep] ;W[co]CR[co] ;B[bo]CR[bo] ;W[cp]CR[cp] ;B[dn]CR[dn] ;W[eq]CR[eq] (;B[fm]CR[fm]) (;B[fn]CR[fn]C[Scribe [-\]: now white gets enclosed, hard for white ]))) (;B[em]CR[em]C[Scribe [-\]: black block at d7 provokes white to live easily Fredrik [5k\]: black c4? ] (;W[ck]CR[ck] ;B[fm]CR[fm] ;W[cl]CR[cl]C[zee [12k\]: hard for B to block ]) (;W[fm]CR[fm] ;B[fl]CR[fl]C[zee [12k\]: W gets life easily ] ;W[ck]CR[ck]) (;W[cl]CR[cl] ;B[cm]CR[cm] ;W[dk]CR[dk] ;B[dm]CR[dm] ;W[bj]CR[bj]C[johnny2bad [3k\]: e7? ]))) (;W[df]CR[df] ;B[dg]CR[dg])) (;B[el]CR[el] ;W[cl]CR[cl]C[Washichu [24k?\]: do you still have sound? Scribe [-\]: black e12 wrong plan ] (;B[jd]CR[jd]C[Automatika [11k\]: y Scribe [-\]: white already got profit on top at m17 ] ;W[hb]CR[hb] ;B[fa]CR[fa] ;W[je]CR[je]C[Scribe [-\]: black h16, 15 nearly dead ]) (;B[je]CR[je]C[VroBanshee [18k?\]: close the window and enter again for sound Scribe [-\]: black group on left side getting weaker ] ;W[jf]CR[jf]C[Scribe [-\]: white k14 sente ]))) (;B[dg]CR[dg]) (;B[df]CR[df]C[Scribe [-\]: amazing move.....horrible shape but here forces black to connect ])) (;W[dg]CR[dg] ;B[eg]CR[eg] ;W[df]CR[df] ;B[ci]CR[ci] ;W[dh]CR[dh] ;B[ei]CR[ei])) (;B[ef]CR[ef] ;W[bf]CR[bf]) (;B[bh]CR[bh]C[jerkovicj [5k\]: e13 NeoNight [7k\]: R 12 Scribe [-\]: black wants to save the c14 stone, but b12 is not the to do so. ] (;W[bi]CR[bi] ;B[ci]CR[ci] ;W[bg]CR[bg] ;B[dh]CR[dh] ;W[cg]CR[cg] ;B[dg]CR[dg] ;W[bf]CR[bf]) (;W[bg]CR[bg] ;B[cg]CR[cg] ;W[bi]CR[bi] ;B[dh]CR[dh] ;W[ci]CR[ci] ;B[di]CR[di] ;W[bf]CR[bf])) (;B[eg]CR[eg]C[Slarty [3k\]: D13 ] ;W[cg]CR[cg]) (;B[df]CR[df] ;W[ff]CR[ff]C[zee [12k\]: better than the game ] ;B[dh]CR[dh]C[Scribe [-\]: simple way to catch the c12 stone Scribe [-\]: solid moves ])) (;W[hb]CR[hb] ;B[fa]CR[fa]) (;W[ib]CR[ib]C[Scribe [-\]: white connection at h18 sente....later ]) (;W[ha]CR[ha])) (;W[he]CR[he]C[Scribe [-\]: difficult decision for white here, tooka long time to decide tipi [1d?\]: q10 jerkovicj [5k\]: q11 zee [12k\]: Why didn't W go for a ladder? atman [4k\]: ladder breaker too good for black? ] ;B[cm]CR[cm] ;W[fq]CR[fq] ;B[pj]CR[pj] ;W[id]CR[id] ;B[qi]CR[qi]C[zee [12k\]: q10 breaks ladder Scribe [-\]: due to this ladder breaker white rehjected move at h15 Scribe [-\]: while white is thick, the pace of development is too slow ])) (;B[he]CR[he])) (;B[hb]CR[hb] ;W[ic]CR[ic] ;B[ib]CR[ib] ;W[ch]CR[ch]C[Scribe [-\]: common variation ])) (;B[cj]CR[cj] (;W[gc]CR[gc] ;B[ab]CR[ab] ;W[fb]CR[fb] ;B[da]CR[da]) (;W[ab]CR[ab] ;B[ba]CR[ba] ;W[gc]CR[gc]C[zee [12k\]: small for B ] ;B[gb]CR[gb] ;W[hb]CR[hb] ;B[fa]CR[fa]C[zee [12k\]: W sente also ]))) (;W[ch]CR[ch] ;B[bd]CR[bd] ;W[be]CR[be] ;B[bc]CR[bc] ;W[ce]CR[ce] ;B[gd]CR[gd])) (;B[fb]CR[fb] ;W[bd]CR[bd] ;B[bc]CR[bc] ;W[dg]CR[dg])) (;W[dc]CR[dc] ;B[cd]CR[cd] ;W[de]CR[de] ;B[ce]CR[ce]C[plonk [22k\]: choi cheolan sergiop [10k\]: thanks Plunder2 [15k\]: I could remember from a previous lesson that the best reply was E15.... Scribe [-\]: slightly favorable for black prvi [2k?\]: white is Beter? ])) (;B[qh]CR[qh] ;W[qn]CR[qn] ;B[nq]CR[nq] ;W[rp]CR[rp] ;B[ql]CR[ql] ;W[on]CR[on] ;B[pk]CR[pk] ;W[qq]CR[qq] ;B[kq]CR[kq]C[Scribe [-\]: very common fuseki as well ])) (;W[cf]CR[cf] ;B[kc]CR[kc] ;W[qj]CR[qj])) (;B[oc]CR[oc] ;W[qj]CR[qj] ;B[fc]CR[fc] (;W[hc]CR[hc]) (;W[cf]CR[cf])))