(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1800] PW[mingjiu]PB[mingjiu]WR[7p]BR[7p]DT[2005-08-28]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[johnny2bad [3k\]: hello Truc [?\]: hi Plunder2 [15k\]: hi sabaki3000 [8k\]: hi jerkovicj [5k\]: hi Seoman [11k\]: hi sabaki3000 [8k\]: # johnny2bad [3k\]: y agui [7k\]: Hello ticktock [14k\]: hi SupRAS [12k\]: hi olczyk [15k\]: Hiddy ho neighbor Bodo212 [13k?\]: hello Astone [12k\]: yes cdub [15k?\]: yes seilen [-\]: morning johnny2bad [3k\]: sound good tibra [10k?\]: hello killedbill [?\]: helo Astone [12k\]: ) MysticoN [14k\]: hello vdust [12k?\]: hello Batavia [12k?\]: good afternoon Washichu [24k?\]: i don't dislike white so much ] (;B[pd]CR[pd]C[MugeiMumei [19k\]: hello Woodstock [2k\]: hello minjiu ^^ SupRAS [12k\]: everything alright ] (;W[dc]CR[dc]C[au2 [3k\]: Hello ] ;B[pp]CR[pp] ;W[dq]CR[dq] ;B[pj]CR[pj]C[prvi [2k?\]: Hi ] ;W[nc]CR[nc] ;B[jp]CR[jp] ;W[qq]CR[qq] ;B[qp]CR[qp]C[au2 [3k\]: How strong are the players? ] ;W[pq]CR[pq] (;B[oq]CR[oq] ;W[or]CR[or] ;B[nq]CR[nq] ;W[nr]CR[nr] ;B[mq]CR[mq] ;W[rp]CR[rp] ;B[ro]CR[ro] ;W[rq]CR[rq] ;B[qn]CR[qn]TR[pj][jp]C[MysticoN [14k\]: isnt this bad 4 white MysticoN [14k\]: ? Scribe [-\]: well known joseki Scribe [-\]: black k4 and q10 are too close to black in the lower right Scribe [-\]: inefficient ]) (;B[nq]CR[nq]C[prvi [2k?\]: TAKEMIYAO3 Scribe [-\]: faster move Uvas [-\]: yes murky: yes agui [7k\]: yes ] ;W[nr]CR[nr] ;B[mr]CR[mr] ;W[mq]CR[mq] ;B[op]CR[op] ;W[lr]CR[lr] ;B[mp]CR[mp] ;W[ms]CR[ms] ;B[lq]CR[lq] ;W[mr]CR[mr] ;B[ne]CR[ne]C[Plunder2 [15k\]: w not connect M3? ] ;W[qc]CR[qc] ;B[qd]CR[qd]C[Scribe [-\]: now black wall is farther from q10, move efficient gaten: no sound MysticoN [14k\]: connect is small johnny2bad [3k\]: that would allow B p2 ] ;W[pc]CR[pc]C[sabaki3000 [8k\]: sound good johnny2bad [3k\]: i have sound Seoman [11k\]: now it works prvi [2k?\]: This is nit good for white sabaki3000 [8k\]: haha Hu [10k?\]: Please no distracting comments, sabaki3000 ] ;B[od]CR[od]C[agui [7k\]: sound ok Woodstock [2k\]: we hear you ^^ SupRAS [12k\]: sound come back Tarkam [?\]: low jerkovicj [5k\]: slow but good olczyk [15k\]: Seems slow johnny2bad [3k\]: w is low at top au2 [3k\]: ama yes ] (;W[mc]CR[mc]C[Woodstock [2k\]: lagging? Scribe [-\]: sometimes there is a lot of lag Scribe [-\]: white extension to n17 good move or bad move ? Scribe [-\]: proper moves are white connect at p17 or at o18 prvi [2k?\]: B m15 Scribe [-\]: n17 not joseki move plonk [22k\]: p17 jerkovicj [5k\]: n10 Washichu [24k?\]: good it leave its position open ended? Scribe [-\]: so m15 grows the black moyo, but is slack Scribe [-\]: more severe play is possible au2 [3k\]: yes seilen [-\]: yes sabaki3000 [8k\]: yes swilks [7k\]: yes gaten: clear agui [7k\]: yes thank you dkiller [8k\]: yes Woodstock [2k\]: amateur 4-dans, right? sabaki3000 [8k\]: 4 dan not very strong ] (;B[oc]CR[oc]C[Seoman [11k\]: p17 ? Grimley [7k\]: s17? ] ;W[ob]CR[ob]C[agui [7k\]: L17 johnny2bad [3k\]: o18 Scribe [-\]: now how can black punish white's deviation from joseki ? ] ;B[nb]CR[nb]C[olczyk [15k\]: What if W Q18 instead of O18? ] (;W[mb]CR[mb] ;B[pb]CR[pb] ;W[na]CR[na] ;B[qb]CR[qb]C[Scribe [-\]: now black has taken the corner SupRAS [12k\]: K16 Scribe [-\]: big loss for whtie ]) (;W[pb]CR[pb]C[olczyk [15k\]: Sorry instead of N18? Scribe [-\]: no choice white must connect go [11k?\]: M17 jerkovicj [5k\]: m17 Woodstock [2k\]: M17 johnny2bad [3k\]: m17 MysticoN [14k\]: but isnt it small for white to kill 2 stones , and black can increase moyo ? ] (;B[lc]CR[lc]C[agui [7k\]: M16 MysticoN [14k\]: ^^ Scribe [-\]: black tesuji! johnny2bad [3k\]: m17 1st ] (;W[mb]CR[mb] ;B[le]CR[le]) (;W[md]CR[md] ;B[mb]CR[mb] ;W[ld]CR[ld]C[Scribe [-\]: white corner needs s16 , s17 to live ] ;B[kc]CR[kc]C[prvi [2k?\]: W m16 Scribe [-\]: black hane at s17 big mistake ] (;W[rd]CR[rd] ;B[re]CR[re] ;W[rc]CR[rc]) (;W[lf]CR[lf]C[Woodstock [2k\]: S18 go [11k?\]: sagari johnny2bad [3k\]: s18 ] (;B[rb]CR[rb]C[Seoman [11k\]: s18 MysticoN [14k\]: S18 sabaki3000 [8k\]: s 16 agui [7k\]: S18 ]) (;B[rc]CR[rc] ;W[rb]CR[rb] ;B[rd]CR[rd]C[sabaki3000 [8k\]: gote Scribe [-\]: black s18 kills ] ;W[sb]CR[sb]))) (;W[ld]CR[ld]C[johnny2bad [3k\]: bad aji johnny2bad [3k\]: cut Seoman [11k\]: n16 ? MysticoN [14k\]: M15 ? li92093 [5k\]: L17 johnny2bad [3k\]: n16 agui [7k\]: n18 Scribe [-\]: How can black answer m16 ? Woodstock [2k\]: N18 laolao: n18 akairyuu [4k\]: L17? Woodstock [2k\]: now N18 agui [7k\]: now N18 johnny2bad [3k\]: l17 ] (;B[md]CR[md] ;W[kc]CR[kc] ;B[lb]CR[lb] ;W[mb]CR[mb]C[Scribe [-\]: horrible result for black ] ;B[kb]CR[kb]C[sabaki3000 [8k\]: horror ] ;W[jc]CR[jc]C[sabaki3000 [8k\]: no Seoman [11k\]: no agui [7k\]: no ]) (;B[le]CR[le]C[laolao: n18? MysticoN [14k\]: :P ] ;W[kd]CR[kd]C[Scribe [-\]: m15, are you sure ? Scribe [-\]: ';) ]) (;B[kc]CR[kc]C[Walas [14k\]: l17? ] ;W[mb]CR[mb] ;B[md]CR[md]C[johnny2bad [3k\]: w ] (;W[le]CR[le]) (;W[lb]CR[lb]C[Fredrik [5k\]: no jerkovicj [5k\]: n ] ;B[ke]CR[ke])) (;B[mb]CR[mb] (;W[lb]CR[lb] ;B[kc]CR[kc] ;W[ma]CR[ma] ;B[md]CR[md] ;W[na]CR[na]C[Scribe [-\]: beautiful for Black ] ;B[ke]CR[ke]C[Woodstock [2k\]: :) ]) (;W[kc]CR[kc] ;B[lb]CR[lb] ;W[md]CR[md]C[go [11k?\]: better then the ladder ? ] ;B[kd]CR[kd] ;W[kb]CR[kb]C[Scribe [-\]: white wins seilen [-\]: w wins prvi [2k?\]: m15 ] ;B[jb]CR[jb] ;W[jc]CR[jc] ;B[jd]CR[jd] ;W[ic]CR[ic] ;B[le]CR[le]) (;W[md]CR[md] ;B[kc]CR[kc]C[Scribe [-\]: white can not hane at m16 ]))) (;W[lb]CR[lb]C[Scribe [-\]: white must fix corner, black sente to attack out side stones ] ;B[ld]CR[ld] ;W[kb]CR[kb])) (;B[le]CR[le] ;W[kd]CR[kd] ;B[lc]CR[lc] ;W[ld]CR[ld]C[Scribe [-\]: just play m15 first if you want m15 ]) (;B[mb]CR[mb] ;W[lc]CR[lc]))) (;B[le]CR[le]C[prvi [2k?\]: m16 Scribe [-\]: slack Scribe [-\]: two 4 dan players sabaki3000 [8k\]: 4d ? ])) (;W[rc]CR[rc]C[sabaki3000 [8k\]: slow Rossi [17k?\]: ^ ^ ]) (;W[oc]CR[oc]C[Hu [10k?\]: After some sound lag, the pitch of the sound becomes higher pitched. ]) (;W[mb]CR[mb]))) (;W[nc]CR[nc] ;B[ne]CR[ne] ;W[qc]CR[qc] ;B[qd]CR[qd] ;W[pc]CR[pc] ;B[od]CR[od] ;W[mc]CR[mc]C[Scribe [-\]: n17 mistake Scribe [-\]: black must punish immediately Killu2 [10k\]: yes jerkovicj [5k\]: y gaten: yes dkiller [8k\]: yes jerkovicj [5k\]: push &cut ])) (;B[dp]CR[dp] ;W[pd]CR[pd] ;B[dc]CR[dc] ;W[po]CR[po]C[sabaki3000 [8k\]: sorry to all 4d prvi [2k?\]: 4dan for 8 k very strong Scribe [-\]: r15 easy mistake, but after today please do not play r15 in this situation ] ;B[ci]CR[ci] ;W[jp]CR[jp]TR[pq]C[Doll [6k\]: ^^; Seoman [11k\]: better at K16 monchacha [13k\]: no Truc [?\]: b q3? ] (;B[pq]CR[pq] (;W[nq]CR[nq]C[Scribe [-\]: not good shape for whtie ] (;B[op]CR[op] ;W[qq]CR[qq]) (;B[qo]CR[qo] ;W[qp]CR[qp]C[Scribe [-\]: white is looking to attack black should he enter the corner ])) (;W[np]CR[np]C[Fredrik [5k\]: k16 instead ] ;B[nq]CR[nq] ;W[mq]CR[mq] ;B[op]CR[op] ;W[oo]CR[oo] ;B[mr]CR[mr]C[Woodstock [2k\]: no, K16 looks better ] ;W[mp]CR[mp] ;B[lr]CR[lr]TR[jp]C[Scribe [-\]: joseki ] ;W[qq]CR[qq] ;B[qr]CR[qr] ;W[or]CR[or]C[sergiop [10k\]: K4 is inefficient no? ] ;B[oq]CR[oq]C[Scribe [-\]: but here the k4 is present, in joseki it is not ] ;W[qp]CR[qp] ;B[rr]CR[rr] ;W[pj]CR[pj]TR[jp]C[Scribe [-\]: joseki kkv [11k\]: no sergiop [10k\]: no ])) (;B[oq]CR[oq] (;W[qq]CR[qq]C[Scribe [-\]: black 3x3 not necessary ] ;B[lq]CR[lq]TR[jp]C[Scribe [-\]: p3 is good enough jerkovicj [5k\]: is jumping in corner a must? Scribe [-\]: now k4 is strangely placed ]) (;W[mq]CR[mq] ;B[qp]CR[qp] ;W[qo]CR[qo] ;B[rp]CR[rp]C[murky: nice flow ] ;W[ro]CR[ro] ;B[np]CR[np]C[Scribe [-\]: black is fine, got big corner ])) (;B[nc]CR[nc] ;W[jd]CR[jd] ;B[qf]CR[qf] ;W[pf]CR[pf] ;B[pg]CR[pg] ;W[of]CR[of]C[agui [7k\]: R17 Scribe [-\]: therefore r15 is a mistake for black ] (;B[qe]CR[qe]C[Scribe [-\]: black must play either r17 or r16 ] ;W[qd]CR[qd]C[laolao: r15? go [11k?\]: second kakari sabaki3000 [8k\]: r 15? jerkovicj [5k\]: very bad ] (;B[qj]CR[qj]C[Scribe [-\]: for joseki see next variation ] ;W[oc]CR[oc]C[agui [7k\]: good for black Scribe [-\]: now white owes a move in the lower right corner sergiop [10k\]: O17 still has aji no? prvi [2k?\]: p 18 agui [7k\]: now b N16 li92093 [5k\]: white jerkovicj [5k\]: b agui [7k\]: black swilks [7k\]: 016 before r10 Ahndraniel [14k?\]: b murky: B seems better Truc [?\]: b plonk [22k\]: b gaten: b sergiop [10k\]: b ted [21k\]: w murky: Yes, murky: W ]) (;B[md]CR[md] ;W[oc]CR[oc] ;B[ob]CR[ob] ;W[nd]CR[nd] ;B[nb]CR[nb] ;W[pb]CR[pb] ;B[qj]CR[qj]TR[nb][ob][nc][jd][md]C[Scribe [-\]: now white has k16 (missing in joseki) therefore white can attack o18 black stones Scribe [-\]: good for white agui [7k\]: yes kefir: yes gaten: yes ])) (;B[qc]CR[qc]C[Scribe [-\]: if q5 at r5 then better for white ] (;W[qe]CR[qe] ;B[pc]CR[pc] ;W[qg]CR[qg]LB[qo:A]TR[po]C[Scribe [-\]: joseki kkv [11k\]: w agui [7k\]: for black Seoman [11k\]: even# ] ;B[qm]CR[qm]C[Scribe [-\]: good for black here ] ;W[qk]CR[qk]C[kkv [11k\]: :) oh ya ] ;B[pq]CR[pq]TR[qh][qi]) (;W[pc]CR[pc]C[Hu [10k?\]: It will be higher pitched for a bit while it catches up. Scribe [-\]: this is a handicap joseki ] ;B[qd]CR[qd] ;W[qe]CR[qe]C[Batavia [12k?\]: i hear mingjiu just fine ] ;B[re]CR[re]C[Woodstock [2k\]: bad direction ] ;W[pe]CR[pe] ;B[rg]CR[rg] ;W[og]CR[og] ;B[ph]CR[ph]TR[nc]C[Scribe [-\]: white q16 is wrong direction Scribe [-\]: black gets more than white gaten: no sound seilen [-\]: voice lag ] (;W[lc]CR[lc]C[Scribe [-\]: good enough for black, corner bigger than side ] ;B[pb]CR[pb] ;W[ob]CR[ob] ;B[qb]CR[qb] ;W[oc]CR[oc]) (;W[pb]CR[pb] ;B[lc]CR[lc]C[sabaki3000 [8k\]: sound back Scribe [-\]: possible ? probably not Grimley [7k\]: its ok already sergiop [10k\]: sound ok now murky: ok now jerkovicj [5k\]: it' k li92093 [5k\]: yes Hu [10k?\]: Sound is back. ]))) (;B[qd]CR[qd]C[laolao: r16? ] (;W[qe]CR[qe] ;B[re]CR[re] ;W[pe]CR[pe] ;B[rg]CR[rg] ;W[qc]CR[qc] ;B[rd]CR[rd] ;W[og]CR[og] ;B[ph]CR[ph] (;W[ni]CR[ni]C[seilen [-\]: q17 is big yose Scribe [-\]: killing r17 now is too early ] ;B[pc]CR[pc] ;W[oc]CR[oc] ;B[pb]CR[pb] ;W[ob]CR[ob] ;B[qb]CR[qb] ;W[nd]CR[nd]TR[qc]) (;W[oc]CR[oc])) (;W[qc]CR[qc] ;B[qe]CR[qe] ;W[oc]CR[oc] ;B[rc]CR[rc] ;W[qb]CR[qb] ;B[nd]CR[nd] ;W[pe]CR[pe] ;B[ld]CR[ld] ;W[pi]CR[pi])))) (;B[aa]CR[aa] ;W[pd]CR[pd] ;B[qf]CR[qf] ;W[ab]CR[ab] ;B[nc]CR[nc] ;W[pf]CR[pf] ;B[pg]CR[pg] ;W[of]CR[of] ;B[qe]CR[qe] (;W[qd]CR[qd]C[Rossi [17k?\]: cut swilks [7k\]: n16 Woodstock [2k\]: no agui [7k\]: R10 prvi [2k?\]: r10 li92093 [5k\]: Q15 ] (;B[pe]CR[pe]C[Woodstock [2k\]: no cut ^^ Scribe [-\]: known joseki. what is black's next move? ] (;W[oe]CR[oe] ;B[od]CR[od]C[flogo [1k\]: noo ]) (;W[od]CR[od]C[flogo [1k\]: white p16 jerkovicj [5k\]: or r9 ] ;B[oe]CR[oe]C[jerkovicj [5k\]: r10 Rossi [17k?\]: ^ ^ ] ;W[nd]CR[nd] ;B[ne]CR[ne] ;W[md]CR[md]C[Scribe [-\]: good fro white ])) (;B[qj]CR[qj]C[Scribe [-\]: wrong move ] ;W[jd]CR[jd]TR[qj]C[Scribe [-\]: too early sabaki3000 [8k\]: white ] ;C[Scribe [-\]: in the game white is stronger with k16 in place, and still black played r10, big mistake ]) (;B[md]CR[md]C[Seoman [11k\]: why r1 and not r11 Seoman [11k\]: ? agui [7k\]: R10 Seoman [11k\]: r10 li92093 [5k\]: N16 Scribe [-\]: either n16 or r10 are proper moves for black ] ;W[oc]CR[oc] ;B[ob]CR[ob]C[Scribe [-\]: n16 first Scribe [-\]: black gets strong positions on both sides ] ;W[nd]CR[nd] ;B[nb]CR[nb] ;W[pb]CR[pb] ;B[qj]CR[qj]C[Rossi [17k?\]: i c jerkovicj [5k\]: r9 overplay? ])) (;W[qj]CR[qj]C[Seoman [11k\]: r11 ? ])) (;B[rd]CR[rd]C[Scribe [-\]: HomeWork ] (;W[ra]CR[ra]) (;W[rc]CR[rc] ;B[re]CR[re] ;W[pb]CR[pb] ;B[pd]CR[pd] ;W[aa]CR[aa] ;B[oc]CR[oc] ;W[oa]CR[oa] ;B[nb]CR[nb] ;W[ab]CR[ab] ;B[na]CR[na] ;W[ac]CR[ac]C[AkitoKun [-\]: lol..t19.. ] ;B[nd]CR[nd]C[plonk [22k\]: no murky: I thought it was W t17 seilen [-\]: t17 Keido [14k?\]: s18 on t17 murky: t17 murky: Next homework ] (;W[rb]CR[rb]LB[pa:D][ra:E][ob:A][pc:F][qc:B][sc:C]C[murky: no Keido [14k?\]: no gaten: no Scribe [-\]: How many ways can black attack white? prvi [2k?\]: B is better murky: 5 I thought AkitoKun [-\]: 3 Truc [?\]: at least one ^^ jerkovicj [5k\]: 3 XuShuyi [22k\]: r19? :S MugeiMumei [19k\]: 2 Fredrik [5k\]: 4? AkitoKun [-\]: we r just guessing gaten: 4 prvi [2k?\]: 10 Fredrik [5k\]: q19? jerkovicj [5k\]: r19 Fredrik [5k\]: q19 should work Truc [?\]: q19 Dionys0s [15k\]: and q19 Fredrik [5k\]: s19? au2 [3k\]: AkitoK - develop reading skills MugeiMumei [19k\]: can w live bluremi [3k\]: really hard NOT to kill w isn't it Dionys0s [15k\]: is there actually a way white can live ;) go [11k?\]: R19 ? MugeiMumei [19k\]: that seems like it would be hard jerkovicj [5k\]: 3 more to go prvi [2k?\]: r18 laolao: t19? jerkovicj [5k\]: 6 go [11k?\]: R19 first abc1984 [9k?\]: b murky: 5+1 prvi [2k?\]: 4=2 Woodstock [2k\]: one more! Woodstock [2k\]: tenuki ^^ Astone [12k\]: O sorry. ] (;B[ob]CR[ob] ;W[pa]CR[pa] ;B[qc]CR[qc] ;W[qb]CR[qb] ;B[sc]CR[sc]) (;B[qc]CR[qc] ;W[qb]CR[qb] ;B[ob]CR[ob]) (;B[sc]CR[sc] ;W[sb]CR[sb]C[Dionys0s [15k\]: i actually counted 4 ways ] ;B[qc]CR[qc] ;W[qb]CR[qb] ;B[ob]CR[ob]) (;B[qa]CR[qa] ;W[ra]CR[ra]) (;B[pa]CR[pa] (;W[qa]CR[qa] ;B[qc]CR[qc]) (;W[ob]CR[ob] ;B[qb]CR[qb])) (;B[ra]CR[ra]C[AkitoKun [-\]: what is the advantage of knowing more than 1 way? ] ;W[sc]CR[sc]C[Fredrik [5k\]: r19 ] (;B[qa]CR[qa]C[bluremi [3k\]: T19 ] ;W[sa]CR[sa]) (;B[sa]CR[sa] (;W[qa]CR[qa] ;B[qc]CR[qc]) (;W[ob]CR[ob] ;B[qc]CR[qc] ;W[qb]CR[qb] ;B[qa]CR[qa]C[kkv [11k\]: seki? Fredrik [5k\]: dead Truc [?\]: dead XuShuyi [22k\]: nod nod jerkovicj [5k\]: bent 4 bluremi [3k\]: bent four = dead ]))) (;B[pc]CR[pc]C[laolao: t19 ] (;W[qa]CR[qa] (;B[ob]CR[ob]) (;B[qc]CR[qc])) (;W[qc]CR[qc] ;B[qa]CR[qa] ;W[ra]CR[ra] ;B[ob]CR[ob]) (;W[sc]CR[sc] ;B[ob]CR[ob])) (;B[qb]CR[qb] ;W[qc]CR[qc]) (;B[sa]CR[sa]C[Fredrik [5k\]: t18 might work, haven't read it out yet though ] ;W[ob]CR[ob]C[laolao: :) kkv [11k\]: r17 ]) (;B[sb]CR[sb] ;W[sc]CR[sc]C[jerkovicj [5k\]: :) bluremi [3k\]: R19 MugeiMumei [19k\]: r19 Truc [?\]: alive ] ;B[qa]CR[qa]C[bluremi [3k\]: hehe ] (;W[ra]CR[ra]) (;W[qb]CR[qb]) (;W[qc]CR[qc]))) (;W[sc]CR[sc]LB[pa:D][ra:C][ob:A][qb:F][rb:E][pc:G][qc:B]C[Astone [12k\]: How about possibly s 19? Keido [14k?\]: 8 ways murky: I found 3 ways ratata [2k\]: r17 plonk [22k\]: s19 Ahndraniel [14k?\]: s18? plonk [22k\]: s18 Fredrik [5k\]: q19 kkv [11k\]: r18 Truc [?\]: q17? plonk [22k\]: r19 seilen [-\]: lol manakem10 [12k?\]: lol Keido [14k?\]: r19? Dionys0s [15k\]: thats it isnt it? MugeiMumei [19k\]: sorry ] (;B[ob]CR[ob]C[jerkovicj [5k\]: ths, byby murky: yes ]) (;B[ad]CR[ad] ;W[ra]CR[ra]) (;B[qc]CR[qc] ;W[qb]CR[qb] ;B[ra]CR[ra]C[murky: yes ]) (;B[ra]CR[ra] ;W[rb]CR[rb]C[Fredrik [5k\]: q19 Grimley [7k\]: t19 Grimley [7k\]: as before;) Keido [14k?\]: t19 Truc [?\]: same as before :) gaten: t19 ] (;B[sa]CR[sa]C[plonk [22k\]: t19 ]) (;B[qa]CR[qa] ;W[sa]CR[sa])) (;B[pa]CR[pa] (;W[ob]CR[ob] ;B[qb]CR[qb]) (;W[qa]CR[qa] ;B[qc]CR[qc]) (;W[ra]CR[ra] ;B[ob]CR[ob])) (;B[rb]CR[rb] ;W[ra]CR[ra] ;B[qb]CR[qb] ;W[qc]CR[qc]C[kkv [11k\]: p18 ratata [2k\]: t18 gaten: t18\] ] (;B[ob]CR[ob]C[MugeiMumei [19k\]: t19 ] ;W[sb]CR[sb]) (;B[sb]CR[sb] ;W[pc]CR[pc] ;B[ob]CR[ob])) (;B[qb]CR[qb] ;W[qc]CR[qc] ;B[rb]CR[rb] (;W[ra]CR[ra] ;B[sb]CR[sb]) (;W[sb]CR[sb] ;B[ra]CR[ra] ;W[qa]CR[qa] ;B[ob]CR[ob])) (;B[pc]CR[pc]C[seilen [-\]: comon people ] (;W[qb]CR[qb] ;B[ra]CR[ra] ;W[rb]CR[rb] ;B[sa]CR[sa] ;W[ob]CR[ob] ;B[qa]CR[qa]) (;W[qc]CR[qc]C[seilen [-\]: i think everyone's asleep lol Dionys0s [15k\]: no we are all listening ;) dkiller [8k\]: s19 ratata [2k\]: s19 MugeiMumei [19k\]: r19 gaten: s19 seilen [-\]: s19 ] (;B[ra]CR[ra] ;W[rb]CR[rb] ;B[sa]CR[sa]C[murky: how many ways ] ;W[qa]CR[qa]C[Dreggo [5k\]: q19 ] ;B[ob]CR[ob]) (;B[ob]CR[ob] (;W[ra]CR[ra] ;B[qb]CR[qb]) (;W[rb]CR[rb] ;B[qa]CR[qa]C[seilen [-\]: nice ])))) (;B[qa]CR[qa] ;W[ra]CR[ra]C[plonk [22k\]: p18 ] (;B[ob]CR[ob]C[MugeiMumei [19k\]: s18 ] ;W[qb]CR[qb]) (;B[rb]CR[rb] ;W[sb]CR[sb]))) (;W[qb]CR[qb]) (;W[ra]CR[ra]C[agui [7k\]: ok Scribe [-\]: New Homework murky: sounds good vdust [12k?\]: ok monchacha [13k\]: ok gaten: ok au2 [3k\]: THANKS TO ING FOUNDATION seilen [-\]: thanks for the lesson Ahndraniel [14k?\]: thanks sabaki3000 [8k\]: ciao vdust [12k?\]: thanks murky: thank you MingJiu au2 [3k\]: thanks for a nice lecture Zwom [10k\]: thanks. Slarty [3k\]: thanks Scribe [-\]: Thank to Ing Goe Foundation Dionys0s [15k\]: thanks plonk [22k\]: thx, bye! Keido [14k?\]: thx, bye dkiller [8k\]: thanks for the lesson MugeiMumei [19k\]: thanks agui [7k\]: thank you very much Lilltiger [8k\]: thanks abc1984 [9k?\]: grazie Peekaboo [9k?\]: thanks rins [13k?\]: Thanks Scribe [-\]: xiexie Mingjiu! monchacha [13k\]: thanks au2 [3k\]: thanks Scribe mub [17k\]: thk ticktock [14k\]: thanks Plunder2 [15k\]: thanks all =) tetsu [12k?\]: thanks ^^ gaten: thank you bye ]) (;W[sb]CR[sb]))))