(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[5.50]
PW[Fujisawa Shuko]PB[Takemiya Masaki]WR[5p]BR[5p]DT[1990-09-27]PC[Japan]C[EagleEye [?\]: hi
Bodo212 [12k?\]: hello
glorfindel [9k\]: hi
bo4 [14k\]: hallo
Scharrels [20k\]: hello
braincrash [?\]: anyone have sound?
sestir [3k\]: not yet
akko [18k\]: Hello
murky: Hello, Guo LaoShi
Sjoerd [13k\]: hi
sestir [3k\]: now we have
Lilltiger [8k\]: Hi
ManMachine [-\]: yes
Plunder [15k\]: hai hai!
Mario111 [12k\]: yup
au2 [3k\]: yes
murky: Yes
EagleEye [?\]: goog
Geng [6k\]: yes
sestir [3k\]: hi
braincrash [?\]: now we hear you :)
VroBanshee [17k?\]: hi, yes
Lilltiger [8k\]: sound is fine
bo4 [14k\]: now sound is on
Fluffball [18k\]: clear
Bodo212 [12k?\]: yes I hear
Scribe [-\]: sounds fine
akew [17k\]: hello
Dakre [1k?\]: sound is very good
ManMachine [-\]: the sound is very clear
akko [18k\]: clear
wrong [2d?\]: ni hao^^
Bodo212 [12k?\]: glad to hear you !!!!!!
Plunder [15k\]: spend 1/2 holiday playing go :S
Mario111 [12k\]: to  less ^^
agui [8k\]: Hello
Sensee [7k\]: Hello
rausku [?\]: the sound works
Sensee [7k\]: when you are going to teach about the tengen?
]
(;B[pd]CR[pd]
;W[dd]CR[dd]
;B[pp]CR[pp]
;W[dp]CR[dp]
;B[pj]CR[pj]
;W[nq]CR[nq]
;B[lq]CR[lq]
;W[qq]CR[qq]
;B[qp]CR[qp]
;W[pq]CR[pq]
;B[op]CR[op]
;W[nr]CR[nr]
;B[mo]CR[mo]
;W[nc]CR[nc]
;B[oe]CR[oe]
;W[qc]CR[qc]
;B[qd]CR[qd]
;W[pc]CR[pc]
;B[md]CR[md]
;W[nd]CR[nd]
;B[ne]CR[ne]
;W[me]CR[me]
;B[kd]CR[kd]
;W[mf]CR[mf]
;B[mc]CR[mc]
;W[mb]CR[mb]
;B[lb]CR[lb]
;W[nb]CR[nb]
;B[kf]CR[kf]
;W[og]CR[og]
;B[qg]CR[qg]
;W[lh]CR[lh]
;B[oi]CR[oi]
;W[jh]CR[jh]
;B[ki]CR[ki]
;W[jf]CR[jf]
;B[je]CR[je]
;W[jg]CR[jg]
;B[ie]CR[ie]
;W[li]CR[li]
;B[fc]CR[fc]
;W[fe]CR[fe]
;B[cj]CR[cj]
;W[ch]CR[ch]
;B[cn]CR[cn]
;W[fq]CR[fq]
;B[rc]CR[rc]
;W[rb]CR[rb]
;B[rd]CR[rd]
;W[kb]CR[kb]
;B[lc]CR[lc]
;W[la]CR[la]
;B[ma]CR[ma]
;W[na]CR[na]
;B[jc]CR[jc]
;W[sb]CR[sb]
;B[gp]CR[gp]
;W[gq]CR[gq]
;B[hp]CR[hp]
;W[nh]CR[nh]
;B[en]CR[en]
;W[co]CR[co]
;B[bn]CR[bn]
;W[hq]CR[hq]
;B[ip]CR[ip]
;W[ph]CR[ph]
;B[qh]CR[qh]
;W[rp]CR[rp]
;B[ro]CR[ro]
;W[rq]CR[rq]
;B[lg]CR[lg]
;W[kh]CR[kh]
;B[mg]CR[mg]
;W[ni]CR[ni]
;B[cc]CR[cc]C[swilks [7k\]: yes
]
(;W[dc]CR[dc]LB[cd:A]TR[je]C[Why block on this side ? 
Isn't    A    better ?
Scribe [-\]: Question submitted via Emaiml
agui [8k\]: yes
Bodo212 [12k?\]: yes
ManMachine [-\]: yes
Sensee [7k\]: blacks get more
Scribe [-\]: Why did white block at d17 ?
Plunder [15k\]: I think right side of black not 100% alive yet
puzi [7k\]: b doesnt get that much solid territorry
Slarty [3k\]: B would be ahead
Dakre [1k?\]: K17 group is not save yet and D17 probably destroys more points then white gets when playing A
wrong [2d?\]: because of F17 stone
Dakre [1k?\]: because black gets as much as white in the corner
wrong [2d?\]: B gets sente
rausku [?\]: b maybe lives in gote in the corner
akew [17k\]: because of F15 and assault to F17
mattC [3k?\]: splits blacks groups
Sensee [7k\]: invasion at H17 possible?
Sensee [7k\]: :<
Mario111 [12k\]: K13 cluster needs to be connected
]
;B[cd]CR[cd]
;W[ce]CR[ce]
;B[be]CR[be]C[Necron [25k?\]: hey
wrong [2d?\]: forcing moves can be very helpful
mefwkio: yea
]
(;W[cf]CR[cf]
;B[bf]CR[bf]
(;W[db]CR[db]
;B[cg]CR[cg]
;W[dg]CR[dg]
;B[bg]CR[bg]
;W[dh]CR[dh]
;B[hg]CR[hg]C[agui [8k\]: Yes , very clear, Thanks
Mario111 [12k\]: black could just block with p14 i think
Necron [25k?\]: your still on holiday?
Necron [25k?\]: lucky
]
;W[dj]CR[dj]
;B[hi]CR[hi]
;W[nk]CR[nk]
;B[ef]CR[ef]
;W[gg]CR[gg]
;B[gf]CR[gf]
;W[ff]CR[ff]
;B[eg]CR[eg]
;W[bh]CR[bh]
;B[cb]CR[cb]
;W[gh]CR[gh]
;B[ee]CR[ee]
;W[hh]CR[hh]
;B[fg]CR[fg]
;W[hf]CR[hf]
;B[ge]CR[ge]
;W[ck]CR[ck]
;B[ei]CR[ei]
;W[gi]CR[gi]
;B[di]CR[di]
;W[ci]CR[ci]
;B[bj]CR[bj]
;W[bk]CR[bk]
;B[ej]CR[ej]
;W[dk]CR[dk]
;B[ek]CR[ek]
;W[el]CR[el]
;B[fl]CR[fl]
;W[em]CR[em]
;B[fm]CR[fm]
;W[cm]CR[cm]
;B[dn]CR[dn]
;W[bm]CR[bm]
;B[gj]CR[gj]
;W[rn]CR[rn]
;B[cq]CR[cq]
;W[dq]CR[dq]
;B[bp]CR[bp]
;W[cr]CR[cr]
;B[br]CR[br]
;W[cp]CR[cp]
;B[bq]CR[bq]
;W[iq]CR[iq]
;B[jp]CR[jp]
;W[jk]CR[jk]
;B[dr]CR[dr]
;W[er]CR[er]
;B[cs]CR[cs]
;W[fp]CR[fp]
;B[fo]CR[fo]
;W[jq]CR[jq]
;B[kq]CR[kq]
;W[hj]CR[hj]
;B[hk]CR[hk]
;W[ij]CR[ij]
;B[df]CR[df]
;W[hc]CR[hc]
;B[hd]CR[hd]
;W[jb]CR[jb]
;B[ic]CR[ic]
;W[ib]CR[ib]
;B[hb]CR[hb]
;W[gb]CR[gb]
;B[gc]CR[gc]
;W[ha]CR[ha]
;B[fb]CR[fb]
;W[jm]CR[jm]
;B[qo]CR[qo]
;W[hc]CR[hc]
;B[dm]CR[dm]
;W[dl]CR[dl]
;B[hb]CR[hb]
;W[mn]CR[mn]
;B[ln]CR[ln]
;W[lm]CR[lm]
;B[kn]CR[kn]
;W[mm]CR[mm]
;B[jr]CR[jr]
;W[ir]CR[ir]
;B[kr]CR[kr]
;W[es]CR[es]
;B[qm]CR[qm])
(;W[bg]CR[bg]
;B[db]CR[db]
;W[eb]CR[eb]
(;B[ec]CR[ec]
;W[cb]CR[cb])
(;B[cb]CR[cb]
;W[ec]CR[ec]C[Scribe [-\]: joseki
]
;B[ng]CR[ng])))
(;W[nf]CR[nf]
;B[ng]CR[ng]
;W[of]CR[of]
;B[oh]CR[oh])
(;W[pi]CR[pi]
;B[qi]CR[qi]C[Necron [25k?\]: the p11 group looks like a big tigers mouth move
Scribe [-\]: white q11 is very important move
Scribe [-\]: the way to learn these moves is to solve life and death problems
Necron [25k?\]: im sorry, o11
]
;W[nf]CR[nf]
;B[ng]CR[ng]
;W[of]CR[of]C[wrong [2d?\]: yes
Bodo212 [12k?\]: I see
agui [8k\]: very nice
gogoofy: nice
swilks [7k\]: yes
Fluffball [18k\]: interesting
Necron [25k?\]: ah ha
Scribe [-\]: white has escaped
Scribe [-\]: black is still not settled on the top
]))
(;W[cd]CR[cd]C[Scribe [-\]: Why not block at A in place of d16
wrong [2d?\]: can W escape with O14???? 'cause B cuts with O13
Scribe [-\]: white is overconcentrated on the left
]
;B[dc]CR[dc]
;W[ed]CR[ed]C[Scribe [-\]: white gains some strength but there is no moyo that results
]
;B[ec]CR[ec]TR[cd][dd][ed][fe][ch]C[Scribe [-\]: this block useful for white moyo on the left side
Scribe [-\]: at the end black has a lot of points in the corner
Scribe [-\]: and black top group is now safe
Scribe [-\]: white is not efficient
Bodo212 [12k?\]: ok
agui [8k\]: ok Thank you very much
][Scribe [-\]: this block useful for white moyo on the left side
Scribe [-\]: at the end black has a lot of points in the corner
][Scribe [-\]: this block useful for white moyo on the left side
Scribe [-\]: at the end black has a lot of points in the corner
][Scribe [-\]: this block useful for white moyo on the left side
Scribe [-\]: at the end black has a lot of points in the corner
]))
(;AB[pj][jp][qp][oq]C[Scribe [-\]: Lecture on efficiency and Basic shapes.  Shape
]
;B[]
(;W[rp]CR[rp]C[Scribe [-\]: is all about efficiency
puzi [7k\]: aji
]
(;B[qo]CR[qo]
;W[qq]CR[qq]C[Scribe [-\]: testing move at s4
]
;B[pq]CR[pq]
;W[qr]CR[qr]
;B[ro]CR[ro]
;W[sq]CR[sq])
(;B[ro]CR[ro]
;W[qo]CR[qo]
;B[rq]CR[rq]
;W[pp]CR[pp]
;B[qq]CR[qq]
;W[rn]CR[rn]
;B[sp]CR[sp]
;W[om]CR[om]C[Scribe [-\]: after white gets a little corner, a white invasion from the outside does not have to be deep to be effective
]))
(;W[qn]CR[qn]
;B[ql]CR[ql]C[Necron [25k?\]: pincer
olczyk [15k\]: probew,yosu-miru
]))
(;B[qd]CR[qd]
;W[dd]CR[dd]
;B[pq]CR[pq]
;W[dp]CR[dp]
;B[oc]CR[oc]
;W[po]CR[po]
;B[qo]CR[qo]
;W[qn]CR[qn]
;B[qp]CR[qp]
(;W[rd]CR[rd]C[olczyk [15k\]: Hehe that shape is in the book by Takemiya, Enclosure Joseki.
Kevintju [20k?\]: no
sestir [3k\]: yes
goglu [-\]: yes
EagleEye [?\]: prob
tibra [8k?\]: no
rausku [?\]: yes
tarragone [11k\]: yes
Rukiak2 [3k?\]: yes
gogoofy: YES
Bodo212 [12k?\]: no
bigfish [10k\]: yes
puzi [7k\]: bit early aint it
agui [8k\]: yes
Necron [25k?\]: no
swilks [7k\]: yes
EagleEye [?\]: probe
tarragone [11k\]: yes looks early
bonobo03 [9k\]: not so early
gogoofy: who plays this game?
]
(;B[qe]CR[qe]C[gogoofy: yes
Bodo212 [12k?\]: yes thhx
Necron [25k?\]: m too weak to unserstand just yet^^
Grimley [6k\]: can you tell us about the cut at q6?
Scribe [-\]: white tenuki'ed
Necron [25k?\]: about q6
tarragone [11k\]: there are variations instead of r15 but i don't know about if they are good here
]
;W[pm]CR[pm]C[Scribe [-\]: white plays s16 to avoid the standard joseki
GoMe [4k\]: heh ok :-)
]
;B[nq]CR[nq]
;W[qi]CR[qi]LB[qc:D][rd:C][qe:B][qg:A]C[GoMe [4k\]: R13 very strange now heh :)
Scribe [-\]: now difficult for black to play at r13, only one space
Sensee [7k\]: no
agui [8k\]: yes
Mario111 [12k\]: ^^
Kevintju [-\]: yes
Scribe [-\]: white s16 makes black r13 less valuable
swilks [7k\]: how would white respond to r13
Scribe [-\]: and white can live at r17 in the corner
GoMe [4k\]: good example
Necron [25k?\]: all ive understood is capturing efficientlky.
Sensee [7k\]: is it fun to be 5p?
olczyk [15k\]: R15 only good reply?
VgoV [16k\]: yes
sarutobi [22k\]: yes
Bodo212 [12k?\]: yes
tibra [8k?\]: yes
agui [8k\]: yes ,clear
bo4 [14k\]: ok
murky: What happens if B answers with S17?
Necron [25k?\]: just about
DarkSilver [12k\]: yes
kkv [11k\]: q6 cut ?
Kevintju [-\]: ok
GoMe [4k\]: R15 only move?
Grimley [6k\]: what if black plays q6 after s16
olczyk [15k\]: R15 only good reply in this game?
liyun [7k\]: so what should be black's answer?
Scribe [-\]: Question
Necron [25k?\]: cut, suicide^^
]
;B[qg]CR[qg]C[Necron [25k?\]: but thats me
]
;W[oi]CR[oi]C[mefwkio: ye
]
;B[]
;W[qc]CR[qc]
;B[pc]CR[pc]
;W[qb]CR[qb])
(;B[rc]CR[rc]
;W[pm]CR[pm]
;B[nq]CR[nq]
;W[qe]CR[qe]
;B[pd]CR[pd]C[goglu [-\]: S15 is common
]
;W[qi]CR[qi]C[Sensee [7k\]: bad
]
;B[qg]CR[qg]C[Sensee [7k\]: :(
])
(;B[re]CR[re]C[Scribe [-\]: professionals often hane on the outside
Scribe [-\]: many variations
bigfish [10k\]: geedy joseki
]
(;W[]C[olczyk [15k\]: White must keep sente to avoid Q6 cut?
]
;B[qe]CR[qe])
(;W[qe]CR[qe]C[Scribe [-\]: black has great power outside if black gets r15
mefwkio: ok
Scribe [-\]: enter this position into GoBase
Sensee [7k\]: gobase is no good, can't get account there
Sensee [7k\]: :(
goglu [-\]: yes
Mario111 [12k\]: neither ^^
VgoV [16k\]: indeed i sent a email there still didn't get it ^^
glorfindel [9k\]: send an email
Sensee [7k\]: you can't use a free email
]
(;B[rc]CR[rc]
;W[pd]CR[pd]
;B[qc]CR[qc]
;W[rf]CR[rf]
;B[sd]CR[sd]
;W[pm]CR[pm]
;B[nq]CR[nq]C[Mario111 [12k\]: yes
]
;W[qi]CR[qi]C[glint [-\]: discuss gobase somewhere other than the middle of this class
]
;B[qf]CR[qf]C[VgoV [16k\]: didn't it say as long as you provide credential it okay
Scribe [-\]: not seen anymore too easy for wihte
VgoV [16k\]: sorry >_<
olczyk [15k\]: R13
petro [?\]: atari
bigfish [10k\]: r13
Bodo212 [12k?\]: r 13?
agui [8k\]: R13
VgoV [16k\]: hmm
]
;W[qg]CR[qg]C[Sensee [7k\]: S13 
]
;B[pe]CR[pe]C[mefwkio: <_>
sarutobi [22k\]: yes r13
]
;W[gc]CR[gc]C[Scribe [-\]: very good sacrifice
Scribe [-\]: gives white sente
]
;B[ql]CR[ql]
;W[rm]CR[rm]
;B[rj]CR[rj]
;W[pk]CR[pk]TR[rf][qg]C[Scribe [-\]: invasion difficult due to white r13
])
(;AB[pe])
(;B[pe]CR[pe]C[Scribe [-\]: most common black response now
]
;W[qf]CR[qf]
;B[rf]CR[rf]
;W[qg]CR[qg]
;B[rg]CR[rg]
;W[qh]CR[qh]
;B[qc]CR[qc]
;W[pn]CR[pn]
;B[nq]CR[nq]
(;W[qj]CR[qj]C[Sensee [7k\]: omg
]
;B[cj]CR[cj]LB[ch:A][cl:B]TR[ce][cf][cg][cm][cn][co]C[Scribe [-\]: black: yi changho
rusakko [6k\]: A
VgoV [16k\]: a
kkv [11k\]: b
TheUnknown [13k?\]: A
Garrod [?\]: b
sicbanana [14k\]: a
agui [8k\]: A
borsuk [7k\]: A
Sensee [7k\]: A
au2 [3k\]: B
seidelin [8k\]: b
olczyk [15k\]: I would wait.
Kevintju [-\]: A
puzi [7k\]: a
DarkSilver [12k\]: b
Sensee [7k\]: C
braincrash [?\]: a
akew [17k\]: same
Scribe [-\]: Which side should white block ?
glint [-\]: A
bigfish [10k\]: ?
DarkSilver [12k\]: B
isshoni [13k\]: B
kongkaroo [9k\]: b
au2 [3k\]: bottom not good for w
Kevintju [-\]: a counter influence of black
sicbanana [14k\]: thick on right side
rusakko [6k\]: O3?
Slarty [3k\]: b to induce a move on the top?
puzi [7k\]: on lower side black is low, so A
Grimley [6k\]: can't choose now so neither side, just wait?
agui [8k\]: A to help in the fight on top
cdub [15k?\]: the stone at d16 looks lonely
braincrash [?\]: blance of top
sarutobi [22k\]: its same
glint [-\]: A because the bottom is not interesting 2 develop for W
isshoni [13k\]: no piont s on down side so to make D hoshi efficient, B better?
mefwkio: @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ill get banned 4 this...@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Hu [11k\]: Ignore it
Kerrick [16k?\]: can someone get rid of this idiot please?
Wook [-\]: Nothing, he is just a little stupid kid
olczyk [15k\]: It means there is an obnoxious person on.
suducodu [?\]: O.o interesting comment...
VgoV [16k\]: ^^
glint [-\]: mefwkio wants 2 get banned
ManMachine [-\]: pls stop it
Kevintju [-\]: censor him
kkv [11k\]: he is just looking for attention
kkv [11k\]: ignore him
VgoV [16k\]: let just continue ^^
bigfish [10k\]: stop
Scribe [-\]: cant censor, its a guest account.,
VgoV [16k\]: very rude
rausku [?\]: keep talking and we'll listen ;)
VgoV [16k\]: like i did on top >_< sorry
kkv [11k\]: true
Sensee [7k\]: i am not, i hate you all
kkv [11k\]: :)
tarragone [11k\]: yes
ticktock [16k\]: Let's just continue.  Top is more developable because O2 group is strong.
Wook [-\]: 100% ack
gogoofy: yeep
WingZeros [17k\]: yes
braincrash [?\]: Hard to stop it
Scribe [-\]: AGREED
bigfish [10k\]: ok
rausku [?\]: It's very nice that you bother to teach us hopeless cases ;)
glint [-\]: agree
Hu [11k\]: Yes, he just got kicked out by admin.
akew [17k\]: A or B depens of other stones
isshoni [13k\]: no points  on down side, so to make D hoshi efficient, B is better?
Sensee [7k\]: it is the same
Scribe [-\]: Both A and B are equally sized with respect to the left side
Scribe [-\]: White has move potential on the top than the bottom
kkv [11k\]: right
sarutobi [22k\]: yes
Scribe [-\]: because p17 is further from d16 than o3 is from d4
agui [8k\]: Yes , very clear, Thanks
VgoV [16k\]: i always get confused by this but wouldn't b make blacks influence less?
Scribe [-\]: Normally block from the bigger ara
Scribe [-\]: area
VgoV [16k\]: ic ^^
sicbanana [14k\]: b and then k17?
][Scribe [-\]: black: yi changho
rusakko [6k\]: A
VgoV [16k\]: a
kkv [11k\]: b
TheUnknown [13k?\]: A
Garrod [?\]: b
sicbanana [14k\]: a
agui [8k\]: A
borsuk [7k\]: A
Sensee [7k\]: A
au2 [3k\]: B
seidelin [8k\]: b
olczyk [15k\]: I would wait.
Kevintju [-\]: A
puzi [7k\]: a
DarkSilver [12k\]: b
Sensee [7k\]: C
braincrash [?\]: a
akew [17k\]: same
Scribe [-\]: Which side should white block ?
glint [-\]: A
bigfish [10k\]: ?
DarkSilver [12k\]: B
isshoni [13k\]: B
kongkaroo [9k\]: b
au2 [3k\]: bottom not good for w
Kevintju [-\]: a counter influence of black
sicbanana [14k\]: thick on right side
rusakko [6k\]: O3?
Slarty [3k\]: b to induce a move on the top?
puzi [7k\]: on lower side black is low, so A
Grimley [6k\]: can't choose now so neither side, just wait?
agui [8k\]: A to help in the fight on top
cdub [15k?\]: the stone at d16 looks lonely
braincrash [?\]: blance of top
sarutobi [22k\]: its same
glint [-\]: A because the bottom is not interesting 2 develop for W
isshoni [13k\]: no piont s on down side so to make D hoshi efficient, B better?
mefwkio: @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ill get banned 4 this...@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Hu [11k\]: Ignore it
Kerrick [16k?\]: can someone get rid of this idiot please?
Wook [-\]: Nothing, he is just a little stupid kid
olczyk [15k\]: It means there is an obnoxious person on.
suducodu [?\]: O.o interesting comment...
VgoV [16k\]: ^^
glint [-\]: mefwkio wants 2 get banned
ManMachine [-\]: pls stop it
Kevintju [-\]: censor him
kkv [11k\]: he is just looking for attention
kkv [11k\]: ignore him
VgoV [16k\]: let just continue ^^
bigfish [10k\]: stop
Scribe [-\]: cant censor, its a guest account.,
VgoV [16k\]: very rude
rausku [?\]: keep talking and we'll listen ;)
VgoV [16k\]: like i did on top >_< sorry
kkv [11k\]: true
Sensee [7k\]: i am not, i hate you all
kkv [11k\]: :)
tarragone [11k\]: yes
ticktock [16k\]: Let's just continue.  Top is more developable because O2 group is strong.
Wook [-\]: 100% ack
gogoofy: yeep
WingZeros [17k\]: yes
braincrash [?\]: Hard to stop it
Scribe [-\]: AGREED
bigfish [10k\]: ok
rausku [?\]: It's very nice that you bother to teach us hopeless cases ;)
glint [-\]: agree
Hu [11k\]: Yes, he just got kicked out by admin.
akew [17k\]: A or B depens of other stones
isshoni [13k\]: no points  on down side, so to make D hoshi efficient, B is better?
Sensee [7k\]: it is the same
Scribe [-\]: Both A and B are equally sized with respect to the left side
Scribe [-\]: White has move potential on the top than the bottom
kkv [11k\]: right
sarutobi [22k\]: yes
Scribe [-\]: because p17 is further from d16 than o3 is from d4
agui [8k\]: Yes , very clear, Thanks
][Scribe [-\]: black: yi changho
rusakko [6k\]: A
VgoV [16k\]: a
kkv [11k\]: b
TheUnknown [13k?\]: A
Garrod [?\]: b
sicbanana [14k\]: a
agui [8k\]: A
borsuk [7k\]: A
Sensee [7k\]: A
au2 [3k\]: B
seidelin [8k\]: b
olczyk [15k\]: I would wait.
Kevintju [-\]: A
puzi [7k\]: a
DarkSilver [12k\]: b
Sensee [7k\]: C
braincrash [?\]: a
akew [17k\]: same
Scribe [-\]: Which side should white block ?
glint [-\]: A
bigfish [10k\]: ?
DarkSilver [12k\]: B
isshoni [13k\]: B
kongkaroo [9k\]: b
au2 [3k\]: bottom not good for w
Kevintju [-\]: a counter influence of black
sicbanana [14k\]: thick on right side
rusakko [6k\]: O3?
Slarty [3k\]: b to induce a move on the top?
puzi [7k\]: on lower side black is low, so A
Grimley [6k\]: can't choose now so neither side, just wait?
agui [8k\]: A to help in the fight on top
cdub [15k?\]: the stone at d16 looks lonely
braincrash [?\]: blance of top
sarutobi [22k\]: its same
glint [-\]: A because the bottom is not interesting 2 develop for W
isshoni [13k\]: no piont s on down side so to make D hoshi efficient, B better?
mefwkio: @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ill get banned 4 this...@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Hu [11k\]: Ignore it
Kerrick [16k?\]: can someone get rid of this idiot please?
Wook [-\]: Nothing, he is just a little stupid kid
olczyk [15k\]: It means there is an obnoxious person on.
suducodu [?\]: O.o interesting comment...
VgoV [16k\]: ^^
glint [-\]: mefwkio wants 2 get banned
ManMachine [-\]: pls stop it
Kevintju [-\]: censor him
kkv [11k\]: he is just looking for attention
kkv [11k\]: ignore him
VgoV [16k\]: let just continue ^^
bigfish [10k\]: stop
Scribe [-\]: cant censor, its a guest account.,
VgoV [16k\]: very rude
rausku [?\]: keep talking and we'll listen ;)
VgoV [16k\]: like i did on top >_< sorry
kkv [11k\]: true
Sensee [7k\]: i am not, i hate you all
kkv [11k\]: :)
tarragone [11k\]: yes
ticktock [16k\]: Let's just continue.  Top is more developable because O2 group is strong.
Wook [-\]: 100% ack
gogoofy: yeep
WingZeros [17k\]: yes
braincrash [?\]: Hard to stop it
Scribe [-\]: AGREED
bigfish [10k\]: ok
rausku [?\]: It's very nice that you bother to teach us hopeless cases ;)
glint [-\]: agree
Hu [11k\]: Yes, he just got kicked out by admin.
akew [17k\]: A or B depens of other stones
isshoni [13k\]: no points  on down side, so to make D hoshi efficient, B is better?
Sensee [7k\]: it is the same
Scribe [-\]: Both A and B are equally sized with respect to the left side
Scribe [-\]: White has move potential on the top than the bottom
kkv [11k\]: right
sarutobi [22k\]: yes
Scribe [-\]: because p17 is further from d16 than o3 is from d4
agui [8k\]: Yes , very clear, Thanks
]
;W[ch]CR[ch]
;B[cn]CR[cn]
;W[cl]CR[cl]
;B[en]CR[en]C[TheUnknown [13k?\]: u always choose the side with more space for you... can you put it this way?
vasak [5k\]: B 
Scribe [-\]: Which side to block is actually a large area of study, but here is it an easy example
kkv [11k\]: to connect ?
Grimley [6k\]: because if f4 black can take the corner
Sensee [7k\]: talk faster
]
(;W[bp]CR[bp]TR[nq]C[puzi [7k\]: connect underneath
enfo [10k\]: shape allows connection
smudge [12k?\]: try to connect C8 stone
braincrash [?\]: more choices
immortal [9k?\]: to kill c6
glint [-\]: *glares* at Sensee
goglu [-\]: the english book:  Lee Changho"s novel plays and shapes
goglu [-\]: explains this game
sicbanana [14k\]: then play chess...
agui [8k\]: nice
GoMe [4k\]: yes
gogoofy: yeep
sicbanana [14k\]: yes
GoMe [4k\]: no
TheUnknown [13k?\]: sure
swilks [7k\]: yes
Scribe [-\]: yes very clear
Kulai [9k\]: no
swilks [7k\]: fine
Bodo212 [12k?\]: no - ok
mezion [20k?\]: no
isshoni [13k\]: no
petro [?\]: it is clear
rusakko [6k\]: no
Kevintju [-\]: it's ok
HydeJackal [10k?\]: wat if c3 black?
glorfindel [9k\]: no it's ok
Kulai [9k\]: good speed
agui [8k\]: No, it's very clear
sicbanana [14k\]: yep
olczyk [15k\]: Can you spell the players names ( so we can look it up)?
rusakko [6k\]: ok
Hu [11k\]: Yes, clear.
GoMe [4k\]: yes idea no not too fast ;-)
immortal [9k?\]: ok
tibra [8k?\]: perfect speed
]
;B[fp]CR[fp]C[Scribe [-\]: b4 shows how small the bottom is
]
;W[fq]CR[fq]
;B[gq]CR[gq]
;W[eq]CR[eq]C[TheUnknown [13k?\]: it does threaten to connect and get the corner... right?
]
;B[gp]CR[gp]
;W[dk]CR[dk]C[janibi [11k\]: what is with f3?
]
;B[dj]CR[dj]
;W[fk]CR[fk]
;B[ej]CR[ej]
;W[ek]CR[ek]
;B[eh]CR[eh]
;W[cf]CR[cf]
;B[gi]CR[gi]
;W[hk]CR[hk]
;B[ii]CR[ii]
;W[eo]CR[eo]
;B[gn]CR[gn]
;W[fo]CR[fo]
;B[go]CR[go]
;W[fn]CR[fn]C[Sensee [7k\]: go sucks
Sensee [7k\]: and is boring
GoMe [4k\]: nice
])
(;W[fp]CR[fp]C[glorfindel [9k\]: lee chang ho
Grimley [6k\]: player names are on the right in this window below controlls
GoMe [4k\]: not true Grimely
Grimley [6k\]: oh no soorry
Scribe [-\]: hard to attack the two white stones when they are both high
Wook [-\]: Kakashisan, please 
Kevintju [-\]: censor him
Scribe [-\]: i have censored Sensee from the game record
suducodu [?\]: haha...
Kerrick [16k?\]: there we go
TheUnknown [13k?\]: this was difficult, but u explained it well ^^
blastoff [21k?\]: these are good examples
]
(;B[dk]CR[dk]C[Lilltiger [8k\]: Arent White C5 played in some cases?
]
;W[bp]CR[bp]
;B[hq]CR[hq]C[Wook [-\]: guojuan it is very interesting
]
;W[go]CR[go]
;B[jp]CR[jp]C[swilks [7k\]: can white pull back first rather than c8 immediately?
]
;W[dl]CR[dl]
;B[el]CR[el]
;W[ek]CR[ek]
;B[fl]CR[fl]
;W[ej]CR[ej]
;B[di]CR[di]C[VgoV [16k\]: as you get better efficiency is everything and because of that i loose too much ^^
]
;W[gj]CR[gj]
;B[bl]CR[bl]
;W[bk]CR[bk]
;B[bj]CR[bj]
;W[bm]CR[bm]
;B[bn]CR[bn]
;W[an]CR[an]
;B[ao]CR[ao]
;W[bo]CR[bo]
;B[am]CR[am]
;W[al]CR[al]
;B[dj]CR[dj]
;W[an]CR[an]
;B[gk]CR[gk]
;W[ei]CR[ei]
;B[dh]CR[dh]
;W[ap]CR[ap]C[janibi [11k\]: bad for black
GoMe [4k\]: yup
swilks [7k\]: yes
Kevintju [-\]: yes
Scribe [-\]: game record....big fight
TheUnknown [13k?\]: yes
sicbanana [14k\]: yes
Bodo212 [12k?\]: thx
immortal [9k?\]: yes
puzi [7k\]: yeah, all basic :)
Keido [14k?\]: yes, that was interesting
bigfish [10k\]: thanks
petro [?\]: it is interesting
murky: thanks
Kevintju [-\]: thanks
immortal [9k?\]: thank you very much 
VgoV [16k\]: thx a million ^^
Fluffball [18k\]: thank you guojuan
glint [-\]: good lesson, continue some other time
Scharrels [20k\]: tnx
glorfindel [9k\]: thx
Joslem [?\]: thankyou for the lesson
tarragone [11k\]: thank you
wrong [2d?\]: we should have Go marathon here ^_^
swilks [7k\]: thank you
suducodu [?\]: Thankies!!
Lotus12 [23k?\]: thank you!
TheUnknown [13k?\]: thank you for the great lesson
blastoff [21k?\]: THANK Y OU
mezion [20k?\]: thank you
agui [8k\]: ok Thank you very much !!
bonobo03 [9k\]: thank you
isshoni [13k\]: thx guo
janibi [11k\]: thx
wrong [2d?\]: than YOU
Scribe [-\]: Xiexie Guojuan Laoshi
kkv [11k\]: thanks!!!!
WingZeros [17k\]: Thanks
wrong [2d?\]: xiexie
swilks [7k\]: was clear
zee [11k\]: Thank you for great explanation
Slarty [3k\]: excellent thanks!!
Garrod [?\]: thank you for the lesson
gogoofy: thanks a lot, you helped me so much
akew [17k\]: thank you
Kevintju [-\]: no prblem at all
Hu [11k\]: Thank you very much for a good lesson.  Lesson was clear.
sarutobi [22k\]: thanks
immortal [9k?\]: a thousand thanks
Kevintju [-\]: thanks
wrong [2d?\]: time is relative
cdub [15k?\]: thank you
tibra [8k?\]: thanks a lot
Keido [14k?\]: No it was good
ticktock [16k\]: thanks
Lilltiger [8k\]: It was very clear, tnx, great lesson
ManMachine [-\]: thank you
VroBanshee [17k?\]: thank you!
sicbanana [14k\]: ok, see you!
au2 [3k\]: THANKS TO ING FOUNDATION
VgoV [16k\]: infinite thx
Keido [14k?\]: thanks
olczyk [15k\]: Thank you.
Stalker [9k\]: Thank You very much
ratata [2k\]: thanks.
WingZeros [17k\]: Time to save file =)
bonobo03 [9k\]: bye
binky [18k\]: thank you
seidelin [8k\]: arigatoo
au2 [3k\]: THANKS FOR THE LECTURE
sicbanana [14k\]: thank you too!
cornelia [?\]: could it be possible to get this lesson replayed ? ???
emot [9k\]: thank you
Kevintju [-\]: see ya
sicbanana [14k\]: bye
ManMachine [-\]: bye
Garrod [?\]: bye
HydeJackal [10k?\]: thanks..muakz
WingZeros [17k\]: bye thanks
boingo [16k\]: bye thanks
immortal [9k?\]: bye
plonk [20k\]: thx
au2 [3k\]: BYE BYE
Kevintju [-\]: bye bye
wrong [2d?\]: zai jian
kkv [11k\]: cu
akko [18k\]: thank you
smudge [12k?\]: Thank you Guo Juan, scribe, and Ing Foundation!
kongkaroo [9k\]: thx so muchh i like u
akew [17k\]: sorry for one stupid guy
TheUnknown [13k?\]: c u
binky [18k\]: bye
yanhai [6d\]: bye
ColourWolf [26k?\]: bai baiiiiii
agui [8k\]: Thanks again , Bye
vasak [5k\]: bye
Keido [14k?\]: bye
Wook [-\]: Thank you very much and have a nice week
cornelia [?\]: thx
Bodo212 [12k?\]: bye  - thx
])
(;B[bp]CR[bp]
;W[dk]CR[dk]
;B[cq]CR[cq]TR[fp]C[Scribe [-\]: white f3 leads to black b4 to prevent white b4
Sensee [7k\]: go away, you can't teach
][Scribe [-\]: white f3 leads to black b4 to prevent white b4
]
;W[dj]CR[dj]C[VgoV [16k\]: rude sensee
]))
(;W[fq]CR[fq]C[suducodu [?\]: ...there are alot of evil people on line today, aren't there?
]
(;B[bp]CR[bp]C[VgoV [16k\]: black on the other side can corner w
janibi [11k\]: b couldn't play b4?
ManMachine [-\]: remove eye space for black?
]
;W[dk]CR[dk]
;B[cq]CR[cq]C[Grimley [6k\]: and white has unefficient stones because of o3
Joslem [?\]: ignore him
]
(;W[iq]CR[iq]
;B[dj]CR[dj]
;W[fk]CR[fk]C[Scribe [-\]: joseki
]
;B[ej]CR[ej]
;W[fm]CR[fm]
;B[eh]CR[eh]
;W[cf]CR[cf]
;B[gi]CR[gi]C[wrong [2d?\]: hard to count territory now :(
Scribe [-\]: black got corner and white got uninteresting bottom side
Sensee [7k\]: i don't get what she is talking about
])
(;W[dj]CR[dj]C[murky: B4 is sente for B
blastoff [21k?\]: will admin please boot Sensee
Kerrick [16k?\]: don't worry Sensee will be gone soon
]))
(;B[dk]CR[dk]
;W[bp]CR[bp])))
(;W[pd]CR[pd]
(;B[pc]CR[pc]C[bigfish [10k\]: toeventualy capture a stone
Sensee [7k\]: just to make the opponent mad?
]
;W[qj]CR[qj]C[VgoV [16k\]: to live on the corner maybe ?
olczyk [15k\]: Aji
pokaali [4k?\]: no idea
mefwkio: to make black look bad
Sensee [7k\]: no point.
kkv [11k\]: heavy ?
VgoV [16k\]: top stone weak for black
]
;B[cj]CR[cj]C[mefwkio: kikashi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sarutobi [22k\]: why is not r9
murky: stuck key
agui [8k\]: kikashi=forcing move
Sensee [7k\]: shinte shonte shinteeeee
Kakashisan [4k\]: mefwkio, stop
])
(;B[od]CR[od]
;W[rh]CR[rh]C[fauli [11k\]: is what?
agui [8k\]: to have some aji on the Q16 stone
]
;B[rc]CR[rc]C[rausku [?\]: is that sente?
Slarty [3k\]: kikashi- forcing move
fauli [11k\]: thx
Scribe [-\]: q16 makes white s12 sente
]
(;W[qj]CR[qj])
(;W[pj]CR[pj])))))))
(;W[pm]CR[pm]
;B[nq]CR[nq]C[goglu [-\]: Jujo showed us a game with this move in a lecture here.
]
;W[qi]CR[qi]C[Scribe [-\]: standard joseki
]
;B[qg]LB[qg:B][ql:A]TR[oc][qd]C[wrong [2d?\]: B r12 would be more efficient if there wasn't w r11
Scribe [-\]: r13 is very nice move to build from enclosure and threat against white stones below
]
;W[oi]CR[oi]
;B[cj]CR[cj]C[Sensee [7k\]: tengen
]
;W[]C[olczyk [15k\]: Not K16 or 17?
Scribe [-\]: standard defense against invasion is white o11
Necron [25k?\]: what is tengen?
Scribe [-\]: black 9 stones many many more points than 10
]
(;B[ri]CR[ri]
;W[rj]CR[rj]
;B[rh]CR[rh]
;W[qj]CR[qj]C[Scribe [-\]: white is safe but small
DarkSilver [12k\]: K10
Scribe [-\]: white 7 stones for about 10 points
])
(;B[pj]CR[pj]
;W[pi]CR[pi]
;B[ql]CR[ql]
;W[rm]CR[rm]
;B[rj]CR[rj]
;W[ri]CR[ri]
;B[ol]CR[ol]C[Scribe [-\]: white is not alive yet
]))))