(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1650]OT[5x30 byo-yomi] PW[jujo]PB[jujo]WR[9p]BR[9p]DT[2005-10-02]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/] ;B[qd]CR[qd] ;W[dc]CR[dc] ;B[pq]CR[pq] ;W[dp]CR[dp]C[Scribe [-\]: Yi Setol style is too fight ] ;B[de]CR[de] (;W[ce]CR[ce]C[agui [8k\]: Hello Scribe [-\]: Park Yeounghun has a very solid style similar to Yi Changho Badduck [5d\]: hi ] (;B[cf]CR[cf]C[Stav [15k?\]: hi all ] ;W[cd]CR[cd] ;B[fq]CR[fq] ;W[cn]CR[cn] (;B[df]CR[df]C[wrong [2d?\]: if W on top? Scribe [-\]: top now more open ] (;W[fc]CR[fc] ;B[cj]CR[cj]C[kjp [7k\]: no weak point at C12 kjp [7k\]: B can press at D16 ] (;W[dr]CR[dr]C[Scribe [-\]: today professionals are more territory oriented, d3 creates big corner in one moce Scribe [-\]: move and sets up attack on f3 ] (;B[qn]CR[qn] ;W[jq]CR[jq]C[Scribe [-\]: this is better than playing k3 first. here white got both d2 and k3 Badduck [5d\]: aha thx kjp [7k\]: sound come and go ] (;B[lq]CR[lq]C[Badduck [5d\]: n3 also ok? wrong [2d?\]: also, Guo Juan shown us that B m3 here woul leave some holes in B's corner ] ;W[jo]CR[jo] (;B[lo]CR[lo]C[Scribe [-\]: black does not have time to play on right side at move 19 au2 [3k\]: w K7 ? Badduck [5d\]: r11? messiah [-\]: r11 :) blue88 [-\]: k7 olczyk [15k\]: R11 tarragone [11k\]: p16 Scribe [-\]: killing f3 is too small at this time, black gets big moyo on right ] (;W[qj]CR[qj]C[au2 [3k\]: can w attach at Q2? ] (;B[qh]CR[qh]C[wrong [2d?\]: W needs a play which will bring him points + sente ] ;W[oj]CR[oj] ;B[oh]CR[oh]C[freeks [17k\]: hi jujoooo ] ;W[mj]CR[mj]C[wholeboard [7k\]: hi blue88 [-\]: yes ringoshin [7k?\]: yes! fint: YES Dakre [2k?\]: yes, helllo ;) gobasso [13k?\]: yes tc3 [15k\]: hi VroBanshee [17k?\]: yes malpiatka [7k\]: hi WingZeros [17k\]: hi DrDrGO [7k\]: hi agui [8k\]: yes smudge [12k?\]: very clear today! :) Bodo212 [13k\]: hello wrong [2d?\]: ni hao petro [?\]: Korean Team Tournament petro [?\]: Yi Se Dol team white petro [?\]: black Park Yeoung Ho (?) fab [1d\]: Park Yeonghun Scribe [-\]: Black: big bottom corner, possible big corner up top olczyk [15k\]: P17 agui [8k\]: O17 DrDrGO [7k\]: top Scribe [-\]: White: good corner up top and possible to create big corner at bottom WingZeros [17k\]: o17 oeillet [8k?\]: f5 Bodo212 [13k\]: upper left tc3 [15k\]: o17 BlueKid [6k?\]: L17? Kerrick [15k?\]: p16? Stav [15k?\]: L10? Duffy [8k\]: h3 freeks [17k\]: o17 is like opening move freeks [17k\]: i thinkg freeks [17k\]: -g ] (;B[kc]CR[kc]C[Scribe [-\]: white will enter ] ;W[oc]CR[oc]C[BlueKid [6k?\]: -_-' Wook [-\]: greedy Scribe [-\]: L17 is too far from top right corne ]) (;B[nc]CR[nc]) (;B[hq]CR[hq]C[Scribe [-\]: black lower left not alive yet, lower right lost much aji (variation on 25) Scribe [-\]: white h6 is a little slow in this game ] (;W[ho]CR[ho] ;B[jr]CR[jr]C[freeks [17k\]: ah sorry ] ;W[kr]CR[kr]C[Scribe [-\]: black must not cut Scribe [-\]: cut could be game losing move, if played freeks [17k\]: white j2 ] (;B[kq]CR[kq]C[Scribe [-\]: h3 to prevent white from making big bottom territory freeks [17k\]: what if Wook [-\]: Server lag all day freeks [17k\]: black after j2 plays 3j? ] ;W[ir]CR[ir]C[freeks [17k\]: hm freeks [17k\]: jujo? ] ;B[jp]CR[jp] ;W[iq]CR[iq] ;B[ip]CR[ip] ;W[hp]CR[hp] ;B[io]CR[io] ;W[in]CR[in] ;B[kp]CR[kp]C[Scribe [-\]: j4 tesuji is tower poke...see Sakata Suji and Anti-suji book ] ;W[lr]CR[lr] ;B[hr]CR[hr] ;W[js]CR[js] ;B[mr]CR[mr] ;W[mq]CR[mq] ;B[nr]CR[nr] ;W[ls]CR[ls]C[kjp [7k\]: B is having a hard time now Scribe [-\]: difficult for black ]) (;B[ip]CR[ip] ;W[jp]CR[jp] ;B[ir]CR[ir] ;W[kq]CR[kq]C[Scribe [-\]: this is correct choice for black ] ;B[lr]CR[lr] ;W[ls]CR[ls] ;B[io]CR[io] ;W[in]CR[in] ;B[hn]CR[hn] (;W[go]CR[go] ;B[jn]CR[jn] ;W[im]CR[im]C[Scribe [-\]: white can not allow this variation, lower white stones die ] ;B[jm]CR[jm]) (;W[jn]CR[jn] ;B[gn]CR[gn]C[Scribe [-\]: white must defend larger group Scribe [-\]: black settled Scribe [-\]: black very nice shape on left, black still has moyo on right Scribe [-\]: terrible for white agui [8k\]: very instructive and nice ! ]))) (;W[hn]CR[hn]C[wingnut [-\]: game Scribe [-\]: real game ] ;B[jr]CR[jr] ;W[on]CR[on] ;B[kq]CR[kq]C[Scribe [-\]: game appears good for black at this point Kulai [8k\]: yes Wook [-\]: yes freeks [17k\]: yup messiah [-\]: yes wrong [2d?\]: yes Kerrick [15k?\]: yes tibra [7k?\]: yes Bodo212 [13k\]: yes xDarigaaz [12k\]: yes agui [8k\]: yes swilks [7k\]: yes screwloose [12k\]: yes Badduck [5d\]: yes Scribe [-\]: black got lot of territory ligo [?\]: hello aggui: no sound aggui: yes sound wingnut [-\]: audio is fine freeks [17k\]: good sound Wook [-\]: works great ligo [?\]: hello xDarigaaz [12k\]: sound oki Scribe [-\]: we can hear you kjp [7k\]: is ok screwloose [12k\]: is fine Bodo212 [13k\]: yes have sound agui [8k\]: sound ok tibra [7k?\]: we hear you messiah [-\]: sound kjp [7k\]: ok messiah [-\]: :) screwloose [12k\]: sound good Scribe [-\]: we can hear xDarigaaz [12k\]: sound is fine freeks [17k\]: sound is well aggui: yes sound Bodo212 [13k\]: sound ok sanniti [15k\]: sound is ok Kerrick [15k?\]: my ears :-) kjp [7k\]: good sound aggui: yes sound wrong [2d?\]: is W p6 that big to let B connect that easily? K3NNiE [8k\]: got sound Scribe [-\]: Black has good shape and connected Scribe [-\]: this is not good enough for white once black fixes at L3 wrong [2d?\]: not many big points left Scribe [-\]: game a little easy for black ] ;W[qo]CR[qo] ;B[po]CR[po] ;W[pn]CR[pn]C[xDarigaaz [12k\]: <> ] ;B[qp]CR[qp] ;W[qm]CR[qm] ;B[ro]CR[ro]C[Scribe [-\]: Think about these moves: D2 big corner fixes all problems there wrong [2d?\]: moves to think about: 1) how D2 is really big Scribe [-\]: R10 vs r11 kjp [7k\]: what is the chinees/japanees word for territory WingZeros [17k\]: is the lower left corner still invadeable? olczyk [15k\]: Not anymore. Scribe [-\]: M3 and H3 are important Scribe [-\]: Please review this lecture again au2 [3k\]: THANK YOU murky: thank you Scribe [-\]: Difficult fuseki, much to learn messiah [-\]: thank you :) tibra [7k?\]: thank you tc3 [15k\]: thx Bodo212 [13k\]: thx very much freeks [17k\]: thank you smudge [12k?\]: Thanks scribe Wook [-\]: Thank you Jujo! Very interesting. Bye and have a nice week xDarigaaz [12k\]: thanks malpiatka [7k\]: thank you wholeboard [7k\]: thank you and Ing WingZeros [17k\]: Thanks Scribe [-\]: Thanks to the Ing Goe FOundation agui [8k\]: Thank you very much Ahndraniel [13k?\]: thanks wingnut [-\]: thx Jujo, Mr Ing & Scribe caraib007 [25k\]: thk silver2k4 [10k?\]: thank you olczyk [15k\]: Thank you. smudge [12k?\]: thanks jujo! tarragone [11k\]: thank you Aggel [?\]: Thank you! au2 [3k\]: THANKS TO SCRIBE capra [?\]: thank you Janez [3k\]: thx nux [17k\]: thanks playgo [6k\]: tjank you Dakre [2k?\]: thanks Paolotablo [17k\]: thx ratata [2k\]: thank you. au2 [3k\]: THANKS TO ING FOUNDATION HW9x9 [?\]: tnx Keido [10k?\]: thx Badduck [5d\]: thank you SAD21 [16k\]: thx agui [8k\]: See you Kevintju [17k\]: thanks! ]) (;W[qq]CR[qq]C[mingjiu [7p\]: i am here. ] ;B[pp]CR[pp]C[kjp [7k\]: ajim ] ;W[hn]CR[hn] ;B[jr]CR[jr]C[kjp [7k\]: aji move ] ;W[nr]CR[nr]C[Scribe [-\]: white o2 creates two options for white: q2 and L2, both take significant piece of black moyo/territory in lower right ] (;B[kq]CR[kq] ;W[pr]CR[pr]C[mingjiu [7p\]: just wait ]) (;B[or]CR[or] ;W[kr]CR[kr]C[freeks [17k\]: what if black j3 instead of k4 ] ;B[kq]CR[kq] ;W[ir]CR[ir]C[freeks [17k\]: but ] ;B[jp]CR[jp]C[olczyk [15k\]: R3 probe? What are alternate responses to Q4? ] ;W[iq]CR[iq] ;B[ip]CR[ip] ;W[hp]CR[hp]C[wingnut [-\]: good for White ])) (;W[on]CR[on]))) (;B[ql]CR[ql]C[Scribe [-\]: r10 split black position ] ;W[qg]CR[qg] ;B[od]CR[od] ;W[fo]CR[fo]C[Scribe [-\]: this is much more comforatable for white on right side ])) (;W[jm]CR[jm]C[aggui: f5 agui [8k\]: P16 Scribe [-\]: very common ] ;B[gn]CR[gn]C[aggui: + ]) (;W[fo]CR[fo]C[Scribe [-\]: black runs ,if it works white is short territory after playing k7 ] ;B[pi]CR[pi]) (;W[qi]CR[qi]C[Babibo [5k\]: is P16 ok for white ? ] ;B[qk]CR[qk]C[wrong [2d?\]: seems this is point when pro's strength comes into the play ] ;W[qf]CR[qf]C[Scribe [-\]: white has not settled, but black almost has big corner and comfortable BlueKid [6k?\]: is black P17 not doing enough pressure on R14 ? ] ;B[od]CR[od])) (;B[pi]CR[pi] ;W[lo]CR[lo] ;B[nq]CR[nq] ;W[jm]CR[jm]C[wrong [2d?\]: W o3 possible? ])) (;B[hq]CR[hq] ;W[mq]CR[mq]C[Scribe [-\]: h3 too narrow, white is comfortable and black is not ]) (;B[mq]CR[mq]C[blue88 [-\]: what about white o3? ] ;W[qi]CR[qi]C[Scribe [-\]: black n3 is a little slow, not enough pressure on white k3 Scribe [-\]: white can tenuki aggui: no sound ringoshin [7k?\]: re-join demo to get sound back ])) (;B[jp]CR[jp] ;W[qn]CR[qn])) (;W[jq]CR[jq]C[Scribe [-\]: jujo would prefer f17 to e16 in real game ] ;B[dr]CR[dr]C[wrong [2d?\]: w b12 possible here ] ;W[cq]CR[cq] ;B[ep]CR[ep]C[Scribe [-\]: k3 common 20 years ago ])) (;W[ed]CR[ed] ;B[cj]CR[cj])) (;B[dg]CR[dg] ;W[fc]CR[fc] ;B[ck]CR[ck]C[wrong [2d?\]: when W e16 is usual??? ] ;W[ch]CR[ch])) (;B[dd]CR[dd]C[Stav [15k?\]: a question: Why not pincer here? Scribe [-\]: very common attackment Stav [15k?\]: thank you ] ;W[cd]CR[cd] ;B[ec]CR[ec] ;W[cf]CR[cf]C[wrong [2d?\]: avalanche? blue88 [-\]: question of style @ stav ] ;B[df]CR[df]C[Scribe [-\]: black extention at d16 enters the Large Avalanche josei ])) (;W[dh]CR[dh]C[Scribe [-\]: okay to pincer too ]))