(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1800]
PW[mingjiu]PB[mingjiu]WR[7p]BR[7p]DT[2005-10-09]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[K3NNiE [8k\]: is this situation good for black?
wrong [2d?\]: u mean "almost" dan
freeks [17k\]: can i save this?
bigfish [7k?\]: think what
bigfish [7k?\]: 37
tsointsoin [-\]: isn't move 12 bad?
ljl [16k\]: the two walls white made look good after the invasion on the top
crabpeople [8k\]: h37 is wrong black schould pincer
ab69f [?\]: ~_~
ljl [16k\]: space on the right side in the game looks VERY BIG for white
WingZeros [17k\]: ready
kelbaopl: ready
jared [4k\]: ready
bigfish [7k?\]: I saw a 2kyu that is 3
ljl [16k\]: rdy
]
(;B[rc]CR[rc]
;W[rb]CR[rb]
(;B[sb]CR[sb])
(;B[rd]CR[rd]
;W[sb]CR[sb]
;B[sc]CR[sc]
;W[qc]CR[qc]
;B[qe]CR[qe]C[Hu [10k\]: Use the "View Offline" item in the Options button, Bodo212
]
;W[oc]CR[oc]
;B[oe]CR[oe]
;W[od]CR[od]
;B[pe]CR[pe]
;W[ob]CR[ob]
;B[nd]CR[nd]
;W[aa]CR[aa]
;B[nc]CR[nc]
;W[ab]CR[ab]
;B[nb]CR[nb]
;W[ac]CR[ac]
;B[lb]CR[lb]C[kelbaopl: hi
Hu [10k\]: Hello and Welcome, MingJiu.
kjp [7k\]: no audio!
Bodo212 [12k\]: good afternoon
Shindou [5k\]: hi
emre [20k\]: hi
tsorro: q18:-)
kjp [7k\]: hi
Dootar [18k\]: hello
kelbaopl: so sound!
Kerrick [15k?\]: patience guys :-)
bartman: hi
glint [-\]: that's because audio hasn't been turned on yet
Dakre [2k?\]: Hello :>
crabpeople [8k\]: hello
Kerrick [15k?\]: hello teacher!
Shindou [5k\]: yes ^^
Dootar [18k\]: hello
emre [20k\]: yes
eternal [?\]: hello
kelbaopl: yes
Hu [10k\]: Sound is good and clear!
bartman: :D yes#
Dootar [18k\]: yes
wholeboard [7k\]: hi
DrGoPlayer [-\]: yep
fauli [11k\]: oh
Q [9k\]: Hi :)
emre [20k\]: hi
glint [-\]: Hi, loud and clear
fauli [11k\]: with music ^^
Scribe [-\]: Nihao Jiang Mingjiu Laoshi
Dakre [2k?\]: Yes
Q [9k\]: yes, great quality today
Sensee [7k\]: mapo tofu
kelbaopl: r19
glint [-\]: lol
Tarkam [?\]: q19
Sensee [7k\]: q18
fauli [11k\]: dead
birne [1k\]: p 19 kills ?
Sensee [7k\]: q18!
Dootar [18k\]: q18...i think
Shindou [5k\]: ^^
cless [14k\]: q17
glint [-\]: W dies
leu [12k\]: who's first?
Sensee [7k\]: R18 
Kerrick [15k?\]: b
EkinOne [10k\]: duh
crabpeople [8k\]: w dies q 18
ab69f [?\]: White to play and die, leu ^^
cless [14k\]: black to kill q18 w to live r16
EkinOne [10k\]: q18 cant kill
cless [14k\]: *q17
Sensee [7k\]: r18
jeoker [8k\]: Q19
tsorro: w dead
weizenbier [11k\]: w dead
Shindou [5k\]: is this a dan problem?
mpk [14k\]: R19 
Dootar [18k\]: q18......?
tsorro: b gives 4 stones and take 3
kelbaopl: w dead
]
;W[ad]CR[ad]C[freeks [17k\]: o10
kjp [7k\]: under-the-stones tesuji
freeks [17k\]: 19*
tsorro: alive
Bodo212 [12k\]: thx
]
(;B[qa]CR[qa]C[crabpeople [8k\]: no
xDarigaaz [12k\]: no
EkinOne [10k\]: partly
kelbaopl: yes
Dakre [2k?\]: no, w r18?
Dootar [18k\]: no
EkinOne [10k\]: yes
aboulafia [12k?\]: I can say «no» if you please
Tarkam [?\]: ko
Shindou [5k\]: r18
Sensee [7k\]: R18 
kufr [11k?\]: q18
tsorro: second eye at q17
Dootar [18k\]: q16
crabpeople [8k\]: s19
]
;W[qb]CR[qb]C[Bodo212 [12k\]: explain please
Shindou [5k\]: not seki
]
(;B[oa]CR[oa]C[freeks [17k\]: hi mingjiu
]
;W[ra]CR[ra]
;B[pa]CR[pa]C[freeks [17k\]: eh lol
]
;W[pb]CR[pb]
;B[na]CR[na]C[fauli [11k\]: ohoooho
]
;W[pd]CR[pd])
(;B[pa]CR[pa]
;W[oa]CR[oa]
;B[ra]CR[ra]
;W[pd]CR[pd]C[kelbaopl: q16
EkinOne [10k\]: seki
kjp [7k\]: seki
]))
(;B[ra]CR[ra]C[Sensee [7k\]: R18 
Dootar [18k\]: r19?
kelbaopl: r18
]
;W[qb]CR[qb]C[tsorro: 2 ways
]
;B[pd]CR[pd]
;W[pc]CR[pc]
;B[pa]CR[pa]
;W[oa]CR[oa]
;B[qa]CR[qa]C[Shindou [5k\]: seki
])
(;B[pb]CR[pb]C[tsorro: lethal
Dootar [18k\]: i think thats it.....
Shindou [5k\]: yea
Kerrick [15k?\]: i like this one better 
EkinOne [10k\]: Q19
Uvas [-\]: no
Shindou [5k\]: it's good
binky [16k\]: w  q 19
freeks [17k\]: q19
EkinOne [10k\]: w q19
cless [14k\]: no
kelbaopl: no
Scribe [-\]: only way
freeks [17k\]: no
Sensee [7k\]: dead
Bodo212 [12k\]: show solution please
Janez [3k\]: wr19
Scribe [-\]: Q18 is the only way to kill White
WingZeros [17k\]: q19
WingZeros [17k\]: nope
ljjr93 [?\]: what if white P19 ?
kjp [7k\]: W r19
Sensee [7k\]: :X
EkinOne [10k\]: still wil die
kjp [7k\]: yes
]
;W[pa]CR[pa]C[cless [14k\]: q17 is better
]
;B[qa]CR[qa]
;W[oa]CR[oa]
;B[qb]CR[qb]
;W[pc]CR[pc]
;B[ra]CR[ra]C[Dootar [18k\]: any way w can live after q18?
]
;W[sa]CR[sa]
;B[qb]CR[qb]C[Shindou [5k\]: ^^
freeks [17k\]: oouch ^^
EkinOne [10k\]: ooppss
cless [14k\]: ohhh
Sensee [7k\]: is that atari?
])
(;B[pa]CR[pa]
;W[oa]CR[oa]C[Sensee [7k\]: alive
humpty1: r18
fauli [11k\]: s19
binky [16k\]: r18
]
(;B[qb]CR[qb]C[Dootar [18k\]: r19
]
;W[pb]CR[pb])
(;B[ra]CR[ra]
;W[qb]CR[qb]C[EkinOne [10k\]: seki
Scribe [-\]: not under the stones
kjp [7k\]: seki
]))))
(;B[qd]CR[qd]
;W[oc]CR[oc]
;B[ld]CR[ld]
;W[nd]CR[nd]
;B[oe]CR[oe]C[kelbaopl: yes
kjp [7k\]: yes
Sensee [7k\]: no
binky [16k\]: yes
xDarigaaz [12k\]: little :)
swilks [7k\]: yes
Dootar [18k\]: i wasnt here:(
tsorro: complicated
freeks [17k\]: yes i think i can remember
freeks [17k\]: q16?
freeks [17k\]: white
freeks [17k\]: q16?
Scribe [-\]: From last week
freeks [17k\]: I learned it
kelbaopl: yes
bigfish [7k?\]: yes
Sensee [7k\]: q16
swilks [7k\]: yes.  but not the continuation entirely
Sensee [7k\]: :<
bigfish [7k?\]: r17
bigfish [7k?\]: no
]
;W[pd]CR[pd]C[Sensee [7k\]: q15?
freeks [17k\]: go out of game and come in once again
blastoff [?\]: back
blastoff [?\]: gone again
bigfish [7k?\]: a
bigfish [7k?\]: a
glint [-\]: kjp: 2 or 3 stone handicap one of the other empty corners?
]
(;B[qe]CR[qe]LB[qc:A][pe:B]C[binky [16k\]: audio OK here
Sensee [7k\]: i hear a mouse clicking
bigfish [7k?\]: a
crabpeople [8k\]: a
Dootar [18k\]: a
freeks [17k\]: a
kelbaopl: b
weizenbier [11k\]: no
]
(;W[qc]CR[qc]
(;B[pe]CR[pe]C[blastoff [?\]: audio gone
]
;W[rc]CR[rc]C[freeks [17k\]: o15
])
(;B[rc]CR[rc]
;W[pe]CR[pe]
;B[pf]CR[pf]C[Sensee [7k\]: i'm tired
]
;W[qf]CR[qf]C[bigfish [7k?\]: cut
]
;B[qb]CR[qb]
;W[pc]CR[pc]C[blastoff [?\]: no need to be rude
]
;B[re]CR[re]
;W[rf]CR[rf]
;B[se]CR[se]
;W[qh]CR[qh]
;B[mf]CR[mf]
;W[nf]CR[nf]
;B[pg]CR[pg]
;W[me]CR[me]
;B[le]CR[le]
;W[ph]CR[ph]
;B[ng]CR[ng]
;W[mg]CR[mg]
;B[lf]CR[lf]
;W[og]CR[og]
;B[of]CR[of]
;W[nh]CR[nh]
;B[ne]CR[ne]C[ab69f [?\]: oi
]
;W[md]CR[md]
;B[ng]CR[ng]C[freeks [17k\]: ko
]
;W[rb]CR[rb]
;B[oh]CR[oh]C[kelbaopl: ko
]
;W[sb]CR[sb]
;B[oi]CR[oi]
;W[qj]CR[qj]C[jared [4k\]: interesting
]
;B[pj]CR[pj]C[jared [4k\]: long joseki
xDarigaaz [12k\]: ehm
Kerrick [15k?\]: :-S
Dootar [18k\]: very long
kelbaopl: i have to remember all this?
freeks [17k\]: that's much bigger joseki than you showed last time
jeoker [8k\]: not so joseki
freeks [17k\]: argh
bigfish [7k?\]: it is easy
]
(;W[ri]CR[ri]C[kelbaopl: long joseki
freeks [17k\]: is that the joseki?
jeoker [8k\]: nice :-)
Scribe [-\]: joseki
Scribe [-\]: !
extrabreit [?\]: lol
ab69f [?\]: Oh my...
mpk [14k\]: hectic
tuesday: s13 t14
freeks [17k\]: so
Scribe [-\]: must play for White
Dootar [18k\]: thats funderful^^
freeks [17k\]: is this now the joseki or what?
kelbaopl: ok
Scribe [-\]: to prevent Black s11 tesuji
Sensee [7k\]: never trust joseki.
EkinOne [10k\]: we r all near dan :D
])
(;W[cp]CR[cp]C[Scribe [-\]: must learn to become professional ;)
K3NNiE [8k\]: b is fine here?
]
;B[eq]CR[eq]
;W[hp]CR[hp]
;B[fp]CR[fp]
;W[eo]CR[eo]
;B[dp]CR[dp]
(;W[do]CR[do])
(;W[co]CR[co]C[Scribe [-\]: bottom left corner for kyu level
]))
(;W[qk]CR[qk]C[kelbaopl: no
freeks [17k\]: r11?
wrong [2d?\]: mingjiu didn't say it's a kyu level, or did?
bigfish [7k?\]: yes
Kerrick [15k?\]: hmm s12 maybe?
xDarigaaz [12k\]: s12?
Dootar [18k\]: now i just have to learn that upper right one
isshoni [14k\]: s12?
crabpeople [8k\]: s11
freeks [17k\]: no s11
kelbaopl: s11?
tablescrap [?\]: s11?
wrong [2d?\]: b s11
]
;B[ri]CR[ri]
(;W[qi]CR[qi]C[freeks [17k\]: s12
]
;B[qg]CR[qg]
;W[rg]CR[rg]C[freeks [17k\]: a lol sorry
]
;B[rh]CR[rh])
(;W[rh]CR[rh]
;B[qi]CR[qi]
;W[pi]CR[pi]C[ChoK [?\]: S13
glint [-\]: T12 
Dakre [2k?\]: t12
bigfish [7k?\]: s13
Dootar [18k\]: s13
xDarigaaz [12k\]: s13
ronin1 [9k?\]: t12
tablescrap [?\]: s13
EkinOne [10k\]: 13
emre [20k\]: s13
EkinOne [10k\]: s13
kelbaopl: s13
Kurau [13k\]: T12
wrong [2d?\]: easy, saw it last week ;)
strava [5k\]: t11
Kurau [13k\]: T12
wrong [2d?\]: so, t12
kelbaopl: s10
kelbaopl: brilliant!
]
(;B[rg]CR[rg]
;W[qg]CR[qg]C[tablescrap [?\]: t13
jeoker [8k\]: ??
ChoK [?\]: T13
Shindou [5k\]: T17
]
;B[sg]CR[sg]C[bigfish [7k?\]: no
Dootar [18k\]: yup
EkinOne [10k\]: yes
Dakre [2k?\]: w s10
freeks [17k\]: s10
kelbaopl: brilliant!
tablescrap [?\]: no :(
tuesday: no
freeks [17k\]: ?
Sensee [7k\]: not nice, evil and mean!
freeks [17k\]: white s10?
Dootar [18k\]: 1
Shindou [5k\]: white play T11?
]
(;W[sh]CR[sh]C[Dakre [2k?\]: no :>
]
;B[si]CR[si]C[freeks [17k\]: cool
EkinOne [10k\]: kill :S
Dootar [18k\]: very nice:)
jared [4k\]: very nice
])
(;W[rj]CR[rj]))
(;B[sh]CR[sh]C[Sensee [7k\]: what is tesuji?
Sensee [7k\]: yeeeeeeees
Sensee [7k\]: patteeeer
]
(;W[sg]CR[sg]
;B[qg]CR[qg]
;W[si]CR[si]
;B[rg]CR[rg])
(;W[rj]CR[rj]
;B[rg]CR[rg]))
(;B[si]CR[si]C[freeks [17k\]: tesuji is the best move in a situation
freeks [17k\]: lol
glint [-\]: http://senseis.xmp.net/?EssentialGoTerms 
jeoker [8k\]: what about w S13 after T12
Dootar [18k\]: funderful
bigfish [7k?\]: conect
]
;W[rj]CR[rj]C[Dakre [2k?\]: white kils the upperside?
]
;B[sh]CR[sh])))))
(;W[pe]CR[pe]C[freeks [17k\]: should be better than s17
]
;B[pf]CR[pf]
;W[qc]CR[qc]C[Dootar [18k\]: b looks very good^^
]
;B[qg]CR[qg]C[emre [20k\]: audio is OK
Q [9k\]: audio fine, restart your client, blastoff
K3NNiE [8k\]: audio gone just rejoin, stop saying audio gone
]
;W[rc]CR[rc]C[blastoff [?\]: thx
]
;B[ne]CR[ne]))
(;B[pe]CR[pe]C[kjp [7k\]: B has 2 moves
]
;W[qc]CR[qc]
(;B[qe]CR[qe]
;W[rc]CR[rc]
;B[ne]CR[ne]LB[pj:A][pk:C][qk:B]C[freeks [17k\]: eh mingjiu
bigfish [7k?\]: I don't like that
freeks [17k\]: somebody said to me o16 is better than s17
freeks [17k\]: but don't know
Scribe [-\]: White gets corner, Black gets outside influence
Sensee [7k\]: what?
freeks [17k\]: yup
])
(;B[rc]CR[rc]
;W[rd]CR[rd]
;B[qe]CR[qe]
;W[rb]CR[rb]
;B[od]CR[od]
;W[pc]CR[pc]C[freeks [17k\]: not really
]
;B[re]CR[re]
(;W[sc]CR[sc]
;B[ne]CR[ne]LB[re:A]C[kjp [7k\]: how can you play this in a handicap game? when the stone is not on the star point?
Sensee [7k\]: o15 for white
])
(;W[ne]CR[ne]C[Scribe [-\]: Better for Black than the first result.  The side is closed at s15
]
;B[nf]CR[nf]
;W[mf]CR[mf]
;B[ng]CR[ng]
;W[le]CR[le]C[freeks [17k\]: yup
freeks [17k\]: is better for whit
kelbaopl: much better
freeks [17k\]: e
blastoff [?\]: audio gone
]))))
(;B[pd]CR[pd]C[Scribe [-\]: Game Review
Kerrick [15k?\]: you mean we had a near dan experience? ;-)
Scribe [-\]: Find the bad moves
Sensee [7k\]: huuuuuuh?
]
;W[dp]CR[dp]C[Sensee [7k\]: mingjiu mingjiu mingjiu mingjou, how is it like to be a pro? making lotsa money?
]
;B[pq]CR[pq]C[freeks [17k\]: haha
oeillet [8k\]: bad !
xDarigaaz [12k\]: 12 is bad i think
]
;W[dc]CR[dc]C[wrong [2d?\]: no
freeks [17k\]: f3
freeks [17k\]: lol
kjp [7k\]: view offline
wrong [2d?\]: i haven't upgraded my brain yet, and tubes need to warm up to work fast :(
]
;B[fq]CR[fq]C[kelbaopl: nice game
freeks [17k\]: I'll save this
]
;W[po]CR[po]C[au2 [3k\]: how strong are the players?
]
;B[cn]CR[cn]C[wrong [2d?\]: for money, it's better to be a football player
]
;W[dn]CR[dn]C[Sensee [7k\]: won a tittel or two?
kelbaopl: 14 is bad i typed wrong
]
;B[dm]CR[dm]C[kelbaopl: why
]
;W[en]TR[en]C[isshoni [14k\]: he s playing go, not the markets 
ab69f [?\]: *censors*
Hu [10k\]: Have some respect, Sensee and don't ask stuff like that here.
Sensee [7k\]: wrong
Dootar [18k\]: mistake is in the c5 variation i think
kjp [7k\]: 3-3
kelbaopl: 3-3
Scribe [-\]: Black can choose C3 in place of C5
Dootar [18k\]: yes
ligo [?\]: y
]
(;B[co]CR[co]C[bigfish [7k?\]: c4
agui [9k\]: C3 ?
Scribe [-\]: Black should NOT have played c5
glint [-\]: C4 
kelbaopl: ok
]
;W[cp]CR[cp]C[strava [5k\]: 9p
tsointsoin [-\]: here
Sensee [7k\]: all wrong
Scribe [-\]: Can Black play at c4 ???
Chalx [4k\]: who played the game?
]
;B[gp]CR[gp]C[oeillet [8k\]: I like C4 too
]
;W[eq]CR[eq]C[Sensee [7k\]: mistake
]
;B[er]CR[er]C[Sensee [7k\]: nothing good in it!
]
;W[fp]CR[fp]C[xDarigaaz [12k\]: 12 is wrong
Chalx [4k\]: q14 doesn't look as the best move there
]
;B[fr]CR[fr]C[wrong [2d?\]: Weiqi is a nice way to connect business and pleasure
bartman: i dont like tht sequence for white
]
;W[dr]CR[dr]LB[dk:A][ip:B]C[kelbaopl: yes
kelbaopl: c15
Scribe [-\]: Black two options: c10 and k3
xDarigaaz [12k\]: now it isnt so good for black
ticktock [16k\]: Maybe black shouldn't choose C5 variation
Scribe [-\]: Very hard for Black to continue from this position
fauli [11k\]: but than the mistake is before?
Scribe [-\]: There are two good points for White j4 and d9
kelbaopl: b
xDarigaaz [12k\]: btw whats strenght of these players? :)
giak2w [1d?\]: i don't understand B8 peep
playm8 [7k?\]: i think they're pretty strong
blastoff [?\]: does it matter?
Scribe [-\]: D9 and J4 are miai...both good moves for White
]
(;B[cj]CR[cj]C[zazie [1d\]: please, Sensee, keep calm
oeillet [8k\]: no
Dootar [18k\]: no
jared [4k\]: no
Scribe [-\]: joseki
bartman: yes
agui [9k\]: yes
K3NNiE [8k\]: yes
jeoker [8k\]: ok
bigfish [7k?\]: yes
agui [9k\]: bad for black
kelbaopl: 3k and 5k
]
;W[np]LB[np:A]C[Kerrick [15k?\]: i think sensee is the guy i had kicked last week
Sensee [7k\]: i hate go
Dootar [18k\]: both look nice and shapey:)
kjp [7k\]: no
tuesday: no
Bodo212 [12k\]: no
Sensee [7k\]: yes
bigfish [7k?\]: no
crabpeople [8k\]: no
tablescrap [?\]: yes
agui [9k\]: yes
Berliner [18k\]: no
oeillet [8k\]: i dislike both
EkinOne [10k\]: yes for the time being
bartman: yes
xDarigaaz [12k\]: i like it
kelbaopl: yes
ljl [16k\]: heck I dont know
Scribe [-\]: result is good for White
Scribe [-\]: due to the o4 move
Chalx [4k\]: otherwise w had D9
kelbaopl: no
Scribe [-\]: YES
agui [9k\]: no
wrong [2d?\]: should W go for J4 here?
tuesday: c6 at Q8?
]
(;B[qo]CR[qo]C[playm8 [7k?\]: scribe has a question
Scribe [-\]: Can Black play C4 in place of C5 ??
oeillet [8k\]: yes, black C4 is OK ?
crabpeople [8k\]: i have a question
giak2w [1d?\]: why not just start with J4?? instead of playing on the right first?
]
(;W[pp]CR[pp]C[glint [-\]: Sensee, this is the middle of a lesson
kelbaopl: no way
]
;B[qp]CR[qp]C[freeks [17k\]: so I have to go now :(
K3NNiE [8k\]: thanx
]
(;W[qq]CR[qq]C[Scribe [-\]: White does not need to give up two stones here
]
;B[qr]CR[qr]C[blastoff [?\]: do we need all these feeble attemps at humor, we are here to learn Go not stand up comedy
Dakre [2k?\]: sensee has already been on my ignore list for weeks ;) i knew it would pay off ;)
]
;W[rq]CR[rq]C[freeks [17k\]: so if you hate go i hate you, sensee ;)
]
;B[rr]CR[rr]C[ticktock [16k\]: it's joseki, isn't it
]
;W[oq]CR[oq]C[swilks [7k\]: doesn't white owe a move in bottom left at b4?
]
;B[pr]CR[pr]
;W[qn]CR[qn]
;B[rp]CR[rp]C[Shindou [5k\]: so much hatred..
Dootar [18k\]: why the cut at r3?
]
;W[ro]CR[ro]C[swilks [7k\]: otherwise c2?
]
;B[sq]CR[sq]C[jared [4k\]: censor the sensee
xDarigaaz [12k\]: i dont like whites play at left corner
freeks [17k\]: hope to see you next week, mingjiu-sensei
Sensee [7k\]: i see no mistakes here
]
(;W[pm]CR[pm]C[Shindou [5k\]: ehh
strava [5k\]: q14
agui [9k\]: yes
bigfish [7k?\]: yes
playm8 [7k?\]: ok :)
]
(;B[jq]CR[jq]C[Scribe [-\]: done
kelbaopl: its wether 1 way or the other...
Sensee [7k\]: i suck
Scribe [-\]: White should have gotten one of j4 and c10 but got neither!
blastoff [?\]: yes
xDarigaaz [12k\]: yes
bartman: yepp
playm8 [7k?\]: but isn't it also nice for white to get R14 point?
agui [9k\]: yes thanks
Bodo212 [12k\]: ok thx
kelbaopl: now yes
bigfish [7k?\]: yes
tuesday: O4 at J4?
giak2w [1d?\]: why not just start with J4?? instead of playing on the right first?
kelbaopl: yes, j4
kjp [7k\]: it is difficult to remember joseki, and it is even more difficult to remember if it comes out sente or gote
wrong [2d?\]: one pro's comment at WAGC...
kelbaopl: wagc?
giak2w [1d?\]: what if O4 at J4?
wrong [2d?\]: excellently played joseki, but the wrong one!
kjp [7k\]: that is true
tuesday: P14
]
(;W[qf]CR[qf]C[casiero: no
plonk [19k\]: no
kjp [7k\]: it makes W stronger
ljl [16k\]: r12
kjp [7k\]: O17
bartman: pincer instead
xDarigaaz [12k\]: i will play pincer
DnF [6k?\]: i would simply play O17
xDarigaaz [12k\]: :)
playm8 [7k?\]: Q11?
ljl [16k\]: R12
glint [-\]: R12 R11 
Dootar [18k\]: q11?
bigfish [7k?\]: o17
Chalx [4k\]: simply o17?
K3NNiE [8k\]: q12?
ratata [2k\]: o17
tuesday: p6
kelbaopl: q12
playm8 [7k?\]: lol, nice one :)
DnF [6k?\]: O17?
kjp [7k\]: O17 or O16, then attack upper left corner, and wait for a oppotunity to invade right side
]
(;B[pf]CR[pf]C[bigfish [7k?\]: no
jeoker [8k\]: no
glint [-\]: no
agui [9k\]: no
kelbaopl: no way
xDarigaaz [12k\]: no
Dootar [18k\]: no><
Scribe [-\]: Q14 forces white stronger...helps White, not suitable without whtie stone at or near q10
Scribe [-\]: Third mistake: Black q14
]
;W[pg]CR[pg]C[tuesday: yes
K3NNiE [8k\]: no
]
;B[of]CR[of]C[Kerrick [15k?\]: thank you dcribe
]
;W[qe]CR[qe]C[suducodu [?\]: audio?
freeks [17k\]: good bye guys
kjp [7k\]: it becomes harder to invade
]
;B[qd]CR[qd]C[emre [20k\]: bye
]
;W[og]CR[og]
;B[nf]CR[nf]C[zazie [1d\]: don't like O14
]
;W[ng]CR[ng]C[isshoni [14k\]: audio s fine
tablescrap [?\]: audio is fine
fauli [11k\]: cant think so fast ^^
ljl [16k\]: W
bartman: good for w
]
;B[mf]CR[mf]C[freeks [17k\]: lol
suducodu [?\]: Oh, osrry
Shindou [5k\]: i wanna play a game with scribe ^^
WingZeros [17k\]: lol
swilks [7k\]: fo 37 i though black was supposed to peep p6
ChoK [?\]: O13 bad
agui [9k\]: white
jared [4k\]: white
kelbaopl: white
offtosea [15k\]: white
xDarigaaz [12k\]: W of course
mpk [14k\]: how about pincer?
Scribe [-\]: White gets more than Black
]
;W[jc]CR[jc]C[kelbaopl: good sound
K3NNiE [8k\]: i think q14 is wrong???
wrong [2d?\]: D17 cries for help
wrong [2d?\]: should correct first mistakes
offtosea [15k\]: yes
jared [4k\]: yyes
kelbaopl: llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll@llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
wrong [2d?\]: yes
xDarigaaz [12k\]: yes
tablescrap [?\]: yes
EkinOne [10k\]: yes
Bodo212 [12k\]: yes
agui [9k\]: yes
bartman: yesyes
]
(;B[hc]CR[hc]C[freeks [17k\]: you can here it in the background 
kelbaopl: bye
kelbaopl: bad for b
]
;W[mc]CR[mc]LB[pe:A][qg:B]C[Dakre [2k?\]: j15?
kjp [7k\]: J16
jared [4k\]: sente
Tartarichi [11k?\]: sente
kelbaopl: sente
bigfish [7k?\]: gote
kalistek [10k\]: gote
Dootar [18k\]: gote for b
tablescrap [?\]: b sente
DnF [6k?\]: but cannot white sacrifice the two stones?
Scribe [-\]: Black does not need to worry about the white push at q15
bartman: oops
]
(;B[oc]CR[oc]C[freeks [17k\]: that audio is on
suducodu [?\]: I thought the audio died on me...
EkinOne [10k\]: must be someone fell asleep on tat key
]
(;W[je]CR[je]C[bigfish [7k?\]: who is black
Sensee [7k\]: bad!
Shindou [5k\]: did white gain more influence than black's profit in the lower right corner..?
messiah [-\]: yes
jared [4k\]: yes
agui [9k\]: yes
bartman: yepp
Bodo212 [12k\]: yes
bigfish [7k?\]: yes
WingZeros [17k\]: yup
offtosea [15k\]: yes
Scribe [-\]: FourthMistake: White k15
birne [1k\]: Ok
birne [1k\]: thanks
agui [9k\]: yes
]
;B[he]CR[he]
(;W[jg]CR[jg]C[xDarigaaz [12k\]: who played this game?
K3NNiE [8k\]: watch it first...it is useless to type now
Sensee [7k\]: h17 bad
kjp [7k\]: better escape
]
;B[de]CR[de]C[WingZeros [17k\]: "click" "click"
jared [4k\]: disagree
Sensee [7k\]: still talking?
birne [1k\]: thanks
jared [4k\]: ok
]
(;W[ce]CR[ce]TR[hc][he][cj]C[kelbaopl: who  is white?
WingZeros [17k\]: lol
xDarigaaz [12k\]: white is stronger player then black :)
]
(;B[cf]CR[cf]C[freeks [17k\]: yes
tuesday: d16
Dootar [18k\]: looks right o me....
playm8 [7k?\]: D16
Scribe [-\]: Sixth Mistake: Black c14
playm8 [7k?\]: yes
WingZeros [17k\]: ok
playm8 [7k?\]: ok
Haloran [18k?\]: ok
kelbaopl: ok
xDarigaaz [12k\]: oki
offtosea [15k\]: scribe had one
kelbaopl: not for this
jared [4k\]: yes
xDarigaaz [12k\]: who do you think is stronger ? :)
wrong [2d?\]: homework??????
agui [9k\]: no, great lesson thanks
jared [4k\]: the pincer in the upper right
WingZeros [17k\]: can B go L16
kelbaopl: homework please
birne [1k\]: After 56, do you think w is leading?
mpk [14k\]: is white answer c15 ok then? if black has C16 is there other way for white to play it?
jared [4k\]: thanks
TheUnknown [15k\]: yay homework ^^
wrong [2d?\]: can I send a PHOTO of some talented chinese kid I met here???
bartman: :D
wrong [2d?\]: only FIVE y.o. and knows to atari etc.
]
;W[cd]LB[dc:4][hc:47][jc:46][mc:48][oc:49][cd:56][pd:1][qd:41][ce:54][de:53][he:51][je:50][qe:40][cf:55][mf:45][nf:43][of:39][pf:37][qf:36][jg:52][ng:44][og:42][pg:38][cj:19][dm:9][pm:34][cn:7][dn:8][en:10][qn:30][co:11][po:6][qo:21][ro:32][cp:12][dp:2][fp:16][gp:13][np:20][pp:22][qp:23][rp:31][eq:14][fq:5][jq:35][oq:28][pq:3][qq:24][rq:26][sq:33][dr:18][er:15][fr:17][pr:29][qr:25][rr:27]C[Sensee [7k\]: you need beer to enjoy go
Dootar [18k\]: d14?
kelbaopl: 45
bartman: 56
Dootar [18k\]: -.-
freeks [17k\]: 56
bigfish [7k?\]: 56
blastoff [?\]: all this useless chit chat...do ppl here just lve to see themselves in chat?
K3NNiE [8k\]: b g14?
ChoK [?\]: W 's pushing too much from behind
kelbaopl: 56 moves
ChoK [?\]: 44*
tablescrap [?\]: move 37 not good
kufr [11k?\]: 37 bad
swilks [7k\]: i like black
oeillet [8k\]: 37
tuesday: ?c6 q4 o14 n14 
kelbaopl: 41 is bad
ligo [?\]: n14 bad
Sensee [7k\]: h17 seems wrong
swilks [7k\]: i think k17 is too close to thickness
kelbaopl: white 54 is baddest move
jeoker [8k\]: ok
fauli [11k\]: i cant see how to kill after r13 cut
WingZeros [17k\]: how did the game end?
bigfish [7k?\]: 5
kelbaopl: who won?
Dootar [18k\]: w must have
mpk [14k\]: fauli: open locally, and check the variation
bigfish [7k?\]: yesa
Scribe [-\]: Another Mistake by Black with P17
birne [1k\]: is w 54 the right move?
jared [4k\]: I have a question
kjp [7k\]: W wins
kelbaopl: ok
messiah [-\]: Where is the mistake? :P
WingZeros [17k\]: tie?
wrong [2d?\]: 'cause maybe W made more mistakes later and lost
jared [4k\]: Can we look at the pincer in the upper right again?
Scribe [-\]: Winner does not matter, finding and correcting mistakes MATTERs
K3NNiE [8k\]: is there still anyway to invade right side?
K3NNiE [8k\]: for black
mpk [14k\]: win doesnt matter. crushing win matters
mpk [14k\]: :)
WingZeros [17k\]: me?
Dakre [2k?\]: me? :>
wrong [2d?\]: we did?
Dakre [2k?\]: hehe ;)
messiah [-\]: :)
bartman: ^ ^ 
EkinOne [10k\]: lol
wrong [2d?\]: WE?
Dootar [18k\]: xD
kelbaopl: hehe
playm8 [7k?\]: should we feel guilty?
wrong [2d?\]: I am not wrong, WE are wrong ;)
Dootar [18k\]: tricked again xD
jared [4k\]: i just didn't want to spoil it for everyone else
playm8 [7k?\]: ^^
kelbaopl: ok
playm8 [7k?\]: he played white even
WingZeros [17k\]: L16/
playgo [6k\]: D14 
wrong [2d?\]: 55 is a mistake?
]
;B[df]CR[df]C[playgo [6k\]: now white plays M12 
Bodo212 [12k\]: the other
agui [9k\]: I prefer this
Dootar [18k\]: other one was better
kelbaopl: this 1
])
(;B[cd]CR[cd]TR[hc][he][cj]
;W[dd]CR[dd]
;B[cc]CR[cc]C[Scribe [-\]: Black should have punished White for playing c15
kelbaopl: very,very,very,very big mistake
jared [4k\]: yes
playm8 [7k?\]: ofcourse
WingZeros [17k\]: yes
jared [4k\]: yes
kelbaopl: no
WingZeros [17k\]: w should
Bodo212 [12k\]: yes
WingZeros [17k\]: not b
glint [-\]: for W
Scribe [-\]: YES
Kerrick [15k?\]: no
bigfish [7k?\]: no
birne [1k\]: Mr Jiang, How h=should w play 54?
Scribe [-\]: first corner can Black c4 in place of c54
]
(;W[cb]CR[cb]C[bigfish [7k?\]: no
offtosea [15k\]: black should win
kjp [7k\]: yes
]
;B[bb]CR[bb]
;W[db]CR[db]C[playgo [6k\]: depends what color
Dootar [18k\]: i totally missed that one....
crabpeople [8k\]: i'm worry about white
]
;B[be]CR[be]
;W[cf]CR[cf]C[strava [5k\]: B is xery strong
]
;B[bf]CR[bf]
(;W[cg]CR[cg]
;B[ee]CR[ee]C[LucyL: HOW could we not see that..Oo
playm8 [7k?\]: owned :D
agui [9k\]: no
kjp [7k\]: no
jared [4k\]: no
tablescrap [?\]: not too hard for b
kelbaopl: black won...game over
wrong [2d?\]: somethin' W is going to die?
]
;W[ba]CR[ba]
;B[bc]CR[bc]C[Scribe [-\]: Fight is hard for white.  Black has outside support
]
;W[bg]CR[bg]
;B[ad]CR[ad]C[agui [9k\]: cut in two 
Scribe [-\]: White has two weak groups
kelbaopl: game over for white
])
(;W[ee]CR[ee]
;B[df]CR[df]
;W[ef]CR[ef]
;B[dg]CR[dg]
(;W[eg]CR[eg]
(;B[dh]CR[dh]
;W[hg]CR[hg])
(;B[hg]CR[hg]))
(;W[hg]CR[hg]
;B[gg]CR[gg]LB[ed:B][fd:A]C[Scribe [-\]: F16 is sente for Black
])))
(;W[be]CR[be]
;B[db]CR[db]C[agui [9k\]: black must have conficdence about the fight
]
;W[eb]CR[eb]C[kelbaopl: ytes
playm8 [7k?\]: strava: if he's played by 7p it shouldn't be that strange ;-)
jared [4k\]: i worry about everything
]
;B[cb]CR[cb]
;W[ec]CR[ec]
(;B[bd]CR[bd]C[TheUnknown [15k\]: ^^^
]
;W[ee]CR[ee]
;B[df]CR[df]
;W[ef]CR[ef]C[Scribe [-\]: THis is okay for White
wrong [2d?\]: W gets more, but B gets sente
]
;B[dg]CR[dg]
;W[eg]CR[eg]
;B[dh]CR[dh]
;W[hg]CR[hg]C[jared [4k\]: equal
ljl [16k\]: white
WingZeros [17k\]: w
kelbaopl: bkack
agui [9k\]: black
Yoru [11k\]: b
Dootar [18k\]: looks pretty equal
tablescrap [?\]: w
Dootar [18k\]: maybe w by a bit
bigfish [7k?\]: both
])
(;B[ee]CR[ee]C[Ives08 [4k?\]: Black is solid while White stills has aji
]
(;W[gb]CR[gb]
;B[bd]CR[bd])
(;W[bd]CR[bd]
;B[fc]CR[fc]
;W[fb]CR[fb]C[playm8 [7k?\]: mucho cool
]
;B[gb]CR[gb]
;W[fd]CR[fd]
;B[fe]CR[fe]
;W[gc]CR[gc]C[kelbaopl: ko
]
;B[gd]CR[gd]
;W[bb]CR[bb]
;B[ed]CR[ed]
;W[bc]CR[bc]
;B[fc]CR[fc]
;W[ca]CR[ca]C[messiah [-\]: Well that was easy to read out :)
]
;B[lh]CR[lh]C[Scribe [-\]: Black gives up four stones to attack White
kelbaopl: this could cost the whole game
playgo [6k\]: but w can get out easyly
tablescrap [?\]: b almost back in the game
kjp [7k\]: then there is a good opportunity to move into the right
Scribe [-\]: corner is not big for white
jared [4k\]: b will reduce the right
])))
(;W[cf]CR[cf]
;B[db]CR[db]
;W[eb]CR[eb]
;B[cb]CR[cb]
(;W[ee]CR[ee]
;B[ec]CR[ec])
(;W[ec]CR[ec]
;B[ee]CR[ee]
;W[bd]CR[bd]
;B[bc]CR[bc]
;W[be]CR[be]
;B[fc]CR[fc]
;W[fb]CR[fb]
;B[gc]CR[gc]C[Scribe [-\]: Black will kill White
jared [4k\]: ok
]))))
(;W[cd]CR[cd]
;B[ce]CR[ce]
;W[ed]CR[ed]
;B[ee]CR[ee]C[bartman: sound is great
]
;W[fd]CR[fd]C[Bodo212 [12k\]: yes
ljl [16k\]: I like that for black
]
;B[gf]CR[gf]C[xDarigaaz [12k\]: yes
mpk [14k\]: yes
kelbaopl: yes
ManMachine [-\]: yes
TheUnknown [15k\]: yup
jared [4k\]: yes
agui [9k\]: yes
Kerrick [15k?\]: sound is fine
EkinOne [10k\]: YEs
DnF [6k?\]: yes
Dootar [18k\]: yup
]))
(;W[de]CR[de]C[kelbaopl: oh...i hear u!
wrong [2d?\]: and we should be honored to be tought by Him
bartman: funky sound is back
]
;B[ig]CR[ig]C[messiah [-\]: ok
Haloran [18k?\]: yes
bartman: ah
blastoff [?\]: is audio gone?
kjp [7k\]: no
kelbaopl: no sound
mpk [14k\]: ;P
kelbaopl: hello?
kelbaopl: so sound
suducodu [?\]: audio?
ljl [16k\]: White is still far ahead at this point?
xDarigaaz [12k\]: i havent spund too
glint [-\]: don't panic
offtosea [15k\]: one hand clapping
agui [9k\]: audio is ok 
kelbaopl: hello?!
kjp [7k\]: sound ok, he is just not saying anything
kelbaopl: can u all heaar?
Dakre [2k?\]: he's making fun of us ;)
agui [9k\]: no comments by now
ljl [16k\]: no
WingZeros [17k\]: haha
suducodu [?\]: no
Dootar [18k\]: lol
xDarigaaz [12k\]: disconnect
kelbaopl: hello?!
WingZeros [17k\]: he left us hanging
blastoff [?\]: no auback
WingZeros [17k\]: haha
jared [4k\]: no problem
messiah [-\]: good :)
wrong [2d?\]: please be serious, he's not a kyu, he's a pro
WingZeros [17k\]: lagged
Dakre [2k?\]: re, mingjiu ;) we missed you
tablescrap [?\]: good now
Dootar [18k\]: s'okay^^
bartman: :D back
kjp [7k\]: wellcome back
ManMachine [-\]: hah
kelbaopl: where is sound?
offtosea [15k\]: welcome back!
]))
(;W[id]CR[id]C[ljl [16k\]: White is still FAR ahead afte thte last varation?
ab69f [?\]: Maybe we should not allow guests to lessons... 
]
;B[ge]CR[ge]C[ab69f [?\]: aye
]
;W[he]CR[he]
;B[gd]CR[gd]
;W[ce]CR[ce]C[kelbaopl: nice move
Scribe [-\]: Much nicer for White
]))
(;B[nb]CR[nb]C[agui [9k\]: yes
Haloran [18k?\]: yes
]
;W[pe]CR[pe]
;B[od]CR[od]
;W[oe]CR[oe]C[ticktock [16k\]: yes
offtosea [15k\]: yes
]
;B[nd]CR[nd]
;W[ne]CR[ne]
;B[me]CR[me]
;W[md]CR[md]
;B[qg]CR[qg]C[kelbaopl: wow
])
(;B[pe]CR[pe]C[agui [9k\]: very nice !
]
;W[qg]CR[qg]
(;B[oc]CR[oc])
(;B[nb]CR[nb]C[jared [4k\]: haha
offtosea [15k\]: o18
glint [-\]: P17 
EkinOne [10k\]: o18
agui [9k\]: o18
jared [4k\]: O18 of course
kelbaopl: ok
Dootar [18k\]: o18
])))
(;B[lc]CR[lc]C[Dootar [18k\]: b loses any hope in the upper left corner
]
;W[fd]CR[fd]LB[gc:A][qj:B]C[EkinOne [10k\]: w gain i think
ljl [16k\]: I like
kelbaopl: i dont
Scribe [-\]: Not good for Black
Scribe [-\]: this result
WingZeros [17k\]: lol
]))
(;B[pi]CR[pi]
;W[of]CR[of]C[kelbaopl: still dfead
]
;B[nd]CR[nd]
;W[ni]CR[ni]C[Dootar [18k\]: looks simiilR
Scribe [-\]: Same result
])
(;B[ph]CR[ph]C[K3NNiE [8k\]: ok
]
;W[of]CR[of]
;B[nd]CR[nd]
;W[nh]CR[nh]C[kelbaopl: black dead
jared [4k\]: black have trouble
Dootar [18k\]: ouch
aboulafia [12k?\]: hard on black
EkinOne [10k\]: start running for life :D
bigfish [7k?\]: bad
agui [9k\]: good for white
wrong [2d?\]: fight
xDarigaaz [12k\]: isnt so good idea
DnF [6k?\]: black is busy
ljl [16k\]: Black got problems
jeoker [8k\]: bad for black
wrong [2d?\]: not easy for B
bartman: q11 better
EkinOne [10k\]: or life inside :D
xDarigaaz [12k\]: hehe no
kelbaopl: no
glint [-\]: 3 vs 1
wrong [2d?\]: both
mpk [14k\]: black cant make base
agui [9k\]: white attacking black
Scribe [-\]: White is attacking Black, but Black made the pincer....not good plan
bigfish [7k?\]: no no
strava [5k\]: p11
kelbaopl: 5 vs 1
wrong [2d?\]: B hunter turns into a rabbit^^
])
(;B[on]CR[on]
;W[pn]CR[pn]C[agui [9k\]: nozoki
kelbaopl: ok
])
(;B[nc]CR[nc]C[EkinOne [10k\]: lol
Scribe [-\]: Just fix!
kjp [7k\]: O17, then attack upper left corner, and wait for a oppotunity to invade right side
offtosea [15k\]: defend
Scribe [-\]: Simple
Scribe [-\]: Effective
]
(;W[ph]CR[ph]C[bartman: !
]
;B[oj]CR[oj]C[wrong [2d?\]: to get sente
kelbaopl: ! that easy
])
(;W[pi]CR[pi]
;B[rd]CR[rd]C[glint [-\]: weakness
wrong [2d?\]: too open
])
(;W[of]CR[of]LB[ph:B][oi:D][pi:A][oj:C]C[kjp [7k\]: O17, then attack upper left corner, and wait for a oppotunity to invade right side
FLgator [5k?\]: how about Q13?
K3NNiE [8k\]: w s16 first?
Scribe [-\]: Black can invade at r12 in previous Variation
kelbaopl: ok
Scribe [-\]: Black can reduce at p10 or p11
])))
(;W[pj]CR[pj]
;B[]
;W[qf]CR[qf]
;B[pf]CR[pf]
;W[pg]CR[pg]
;B[of]CR[of]
;W[qe]CR[qe]
;B[qd]CR[qd]C[kelbaopl: white bad shape
agui [9k\]: korigatachi
]))
(;B[on]CR[on]C[jared [4k\]: no
oeillet [8k\]: didnt know
tuesday: p6 next
]
;W[pn]CR[pn]TR[cj][ip]C[Dakre [2k?\]: yes
kelbaopl: no
bigfish [7k?\]: yup
xDarigaaz [12k\]: i dont like black here
ljl [16k\]: like black result better
wrong [2d?\]: but B managed to protect against W j4
]
;B[jq]CR[jq]C[agui [9k\]: good for white
swilks [7k\]: no
tuesday: no
kelbaopl: no
bigfish [7k?\]: not really
ticktock [16k\]: No.
K3NNiE [8k\]: w yes
Dootar [18k\]: still better for white xD
oeillet [8k\]: black got sente
Scribe [-\]: After k3 Black was allowed to protect at both C10 and K3
]
;W[rq]CR[rq]))
(;W[ip]CR[ip]C[playm8 [7k?\]: can't white play Q6?
]
;B[pn]CR[pn])
(;W[pn]CR[pn]))
(;W[oq]CR[oq]C[strava [5k\]: r4
Scribe [-\]: Second mistake White q4
]
;B[qq]CR[qq]
;W[pn]CR[pn]
(;B[qm]CR[qm]C[strava [5k\]: Wr4
]
;W[ip]CR[ip])
(;B[jq]CR[jq]
;W[qn]CR[qn]LB[rn:B][ro:A][nr:D][or:C][pr:E]C[Scribe [-\]: White should just block at r5 in place of q4
Scribe [-\]: White outside very strong
glint [-\]: lots
kelbaopl: wow
jared [4k\]: R6 is "million dollar hane"
Scribe [-\]: White has sente moves at s5, s6, o2, p2, q2
kelbaopl: yes
])))
(;W[qn]CR[qn]
;B[qp]CR[qp]
;W[pn]CR[pn]
(;B[jq]CR[jq]
;W[nr]CR[nr]C[Dootar [18k\]: no
bigfish [7k?\]: no
bartman: yes
agui [9k\]: no
xDarigaaz [12k\]: no
jared [4k\]: not at P2??
kelbaopl: no
])
(;B[nr]CR[nr]
;W[mq]CR[mq]
;B[mr]CR[mr]
;W[ip]CR[ip]C[kelbaopl: no
Dootar [18k\]: too low
ticktock [16k\]: No
Scribe [-\]: corner isnt very strong after white descends at o2
jeoker [8k\]: nice for white
agui [9k\]: no
xDarigaaz [12k\]: no
offtosea [15k\]: no
jared [4k\]: no
bigfish [7k?\]: no
ljl [16k\]: no
oeillet [8k\]: black under attack
Scribe [-\]: horrible for Black
bartman: bad for b
])))
(;B[nq]CR[nq]
;W[mp]CR[mp]C[Scribe [-\]: Now hard for Black to select a joseki in lower right
]
;B[mq]CR[mq]C[Scribe [-\]: Black is too low
]
;W[lp]CR[lp]C[crabpeople [8k\]: slack for black
kelbaopl: way too blow
Dootar [18k\]: w gets  the wall there
]))
(;B[jq]CR[jq])
(;B[jp]CR[jp]
;W[dk]CR[dk]
;B[em]CR[em]
;W[fm]CR[fm]
;B[el]CR[el]
;W[gn]CR[gn]
;B[ek]CR[ek]
;W[di]CR[di]
;B[ck]CR[ck]C[Scribe [-\]: Still good for White
Sensee [7k\]: :(
]
;W[np]CR[np])
(;B[np]CR[np]
;W[dk]CR[dk]
;B[em]CR[em]
;W[fm]CR[fm]
;B[el]CR[el]
;W[gn]CR[gn]
;B[jp]CR[jp]C[Scribe [-\]: Still good for White
]
;W[bl]CR[bl]C[kelbaopl: bad
ChoK [?\]: weak group
giak2w [1d?\]: why B8 and not C8?
]))
(;B[cq]CR[cq]C[crabpeople [8k\]: c3
oeillet [8k\]: c3 c4
oeillet [8k\]: yes
jared [4k\]: yes
ticktock [16k\]: yes
xDarigaaz [12k\]: yes
offtosea [15k\]: yes, thanks
kelbaopl: vrey, very clear
bigfish [7k?\]: yes
Scribe [-\]: Black c5 is the first mistake
Bodo212 [12k\]: thx
]
(;W[dq]CR[dq]
;B[cp]CR[cp]
;W[co]CR[co]
;B[bo]CR[bo]
;W[do]CR[do]
;B[bm]CR[bm]
;W[em]CR[em]C[Scribe [-\]: Handicap joseki
]
;B[dl]CR[dl]C[Scribe [-\]: Black gets more than white
])
(;W[co]CR[co]
;B[dq]CR[dq]C[Scribe [-\]: Black nolonger pressed low along bottom
]
;W[cm]CR[cm]C[Scribe [-\]: Even game joseki
]
;B[np]CR[np]TR[cn])))
(;B[ob]CR[ob]
;W[pa]CR[pa]C[Scribe [-\]: HOMEWORK
]
;B[oc]CR[oc]
;W[pb]CR[pb]
;B[pc]CR[pc]
;W[qc]CR[qc]C[WingZeros [17k\]: hommer
]
;B[rd]CR[rd]
;W[qd]CR[qd]
;B[rf]CR[rf]
;W[qe]CR[qe]
;B[qg]CR[qg]
;W[re]CR[re]
;B[pf]CR[pf]
;W[aa]CR[aa]
;B[pe]CR[pe]
;W[ab]CR[ab]
;B[pd]CR[pd]
;W[ac]CR[ac]
;B[rh]CR[rh]C[wrong [2d?\]: b
kelbaopl:  i found 2 ways
bigfish [7k?\]: s18
fauli [11k\]: ^^
glint [-\]: homework - not to be done NOW
au2 [3k\]: THANKS TO ING FOUNDATION
golawyer2 [14k\]: thanks coach!
birne [1k\]: thank you
jared [4k\]: thanks!
offtosea [15k\]: thanks much!
]))