(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[0.50]TM[60]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[sinaia]PB[allexya]WR[1k]BR[2k]DT[2006-03-20]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[rayen [8k\]: hello
armiad [13k\]: hello
HeinBloed: hello
SitaRam [3k?\]: hello
Scribe [-\]: Nihao GuoJuan Laoshi
Bodo212 [15k\]: hello
ruger [16k\]: hello
Stalker [8k\]: hello
Azumii: hi
coronalis [17k\]: hi
Tulambar [11k?\]: Hello
rayen [8k\]: you sound better since the last audiogolesson ^^
agui [7k\]: Hello
SitaRam [3k?\]: hoping for good sound
Hu [10k\]: Yes, on clocks.
]
;B[pd]CR[pd]BL[208.19]C[sinaia [1k\]: hi

]
;W[qp]CR[qp]WL[196.917]C[allexya [2k\]: hello :)

]
;B[dq]CR[dq]BL[204.069]
;W[dc]CR[dc]WL[191.574]
;B[ce]CR[ce]BL[200.541]C[Scribe [-\]: Two games played on GKKGS
]
;W[do]CR[do]WL[183.686]C[wrong [?\]: daylight savings problems ^_^
]
;B[cm]CR[cm]BL[198.554]
;W[bo]CR[bo]WL[177.764]C[wrong [?\]: but, we are all happy it's sunny today ;)
]
(;B[gq]CR[gq]BL[189.733]C[wrong [?\]: if asking many questions, Guo will get 50 times more answers!
]
;W[eq]CR[eq]WL[150]
;B[er]CR[er]BL[186.264]
;W[cq]CR[cq]WL[150]C[olczyk [14k\]: What was the last source again?
goshu [7k?\]: go base doesnt work anymore ?
wrong [?\]: trying to live
rayen [8k\]: make shape ?
HeinBloed: build eyeshape?
Tarkam [10k?\]: a corner ?
SimonxD [10k\]: take corner?
wrong [?\]: in the corner
ligo [?\]: sente
Quinn [11k?\]: settle
BuddyL [7k\]: W wants to settle and attack C7
murky: this seems a key point
SitaRam [3k?\]: quick settle
agui [7k\]: setling
]
;B[cr]CR[cr]BL[181.13]
;W[dp]CR[dp]WL[150]
;B[dr]CR[dr]BL[179.054]
(;W[fq]CR[fq]WL[150]
;B[fr]CR[fr]BL[177.764]LB[fq:A][gq:B]C[Scribe [-\]: knights move at f4 in place of g3 often played to prevent black from being pressed down in the lower left corner
]
;W[gp]CR[gp]WL[150]C[Scribe [-\]: f3 bumping into g3 is not good play for white
]
(;B[hp]CR[hp]BL[175.313]
(;W[hq]CR[hq]WL[150]
;B[gr]CR[gr]BL[173.1]
;W[go]CR[go]WL[150]LB[qn:D][ho:C][ip:B][iq:A]C[Quinn [11k?\]: j3
Kennabee [6k\]: J.3
HeinBloed: h5
agui [7k\]: J4
BuddyL [7k\]: H5
ruger [16k\]: j4
Tulambar [11k?\]: J4
biomorph [13k\]: J4
rayen [8k\]: R6 
Scribe [-\]: what is the best more for black in the bottom left now ?
yfh2 [4k?\]: tenuki
yfh2 [4k?\]: :-(
Scribe [-\]: this is not the time to tenuki from the lower left
]
(;B[ho]BL[172.261]TR[go][ho][gp][hp]
;W[gn]CR[gn]WL[150]C[Scribe [-\]: this white is stronger than if black had extended to h3 in place of h4 double hane
Scribe [-\]: white b3 lives easy
]
;B[hn]CR[hn]BL[169.945]C[Conch [13k\]: j3
coronalis [17k\]: but C7 is weak 
Azumii: J3
SitaRam [3k?\]: nobi
Talaer [14k?\]: H7
josba: hane
Quinn [11k?\]: h7
]
(;W[iq]CR[iq]WL[150]TR[cr][dr][er][fr][gr]C[Bodo212 [15k\]: yes
uwinmenow [?\]: yes
rayen [8k\]: dunno
Conch [13k\]: wants to fight
yfh2 [4k?\]: cutting stones
SimonxD [10k\]: to cut off H5  from F2 
agui [7k\]: he wants to play hane at H7
ljl [12k\]: cut the two black groups appart?
xix [18k?\]: buiding crane nest?
Tulambar [11k?\]: To make the black group weak
wrong [?\]: cut & extend
rayen [8k\]: alive
SitaRam [3k?\]: alive
xix [18k?\]: no
Tulambar [11k?\]: Not yet
zee [10k\]: can live
grossebaf [5k?\]: not yet
agui [7k\]: not yet
DrGoPlayer [-\]: b3
josba: yes
grossebaf [5k?\]: 8
Scribe [-\]: when you cut, cut between groups that are not already alive, cut weak groups.  do not cut strong groups
xix [18k?\]: 8
agui [7k\]: 8
rayen [8k\]: 7 if you got sente
xix [18k?\]: 5 in corner
SitaRam [3k?\]: but is in the corner
Tarkam [10k?\]: 7
grossebaf [5k?\]: or 7 AND sente
Hu [10k\]: 8 live, 6 die, 7 depends on move
murky: A2 to live
wrong [?\]: Yoda would slap his face after B G7 :)
uwinmenow [?\]: lo,.
uwinmenow [?\]: kik
uwinmenow [?\]: lol
rayen [8k\]: :D
SitaRam [3k?\]: cut not living groups
SitaRam [3k?\]: yes
wingnut [-\]: clear
BuddyL [7k\]: thanks
uwinmenow [?\]: mm-hmmm
TaksiMies [12k?\]: yes
SitaRam [3k?\]: like the ocean was
ticktock [14k\]: yes
uwinmenow [?\]: jaja
goshu [7k?\]: very clear
uwinmenow [?\]: kyes
uwinmenow [?\]: yes
]
(;B[gm]CR[gm]BL[168.494]C[uwinmenow [?\]: lol
]
(;W[hm]CR[hm]WL[150]C[Scribe [-\]: black g7 is severe move against white
]
;B[jo]CR[jo]BL[157.682]C[Scribe [-\]: two white stones are dead after black L3
Scribe [-\]: black has many sente moves against the two white stones on the bottom
murky: much harder in life though
ricecooker [?\]: many cuts...
uwinmenow [?\]: lol
uwinmenow [?\]: ya...
]
(;W[kp]CR[kp]WL[150]TR[hn][ho][jo][hp]C[rayen [8k\]: F7 
Cooll [11k\]: J7 
ruger [16k\]: f7
lcninja [12k\]: k4 then cut :)
josba: e5
agui [7k\]: k7
rayen [8k\]: safe
Kennabee [6k\]: K4
Cooll [11k\]: not yet
SitaRam [3k?\]: safe
olczyk [14k\]: half safe
]
(;B[jp]CR[jp]BL[153.212]
;W[jq]CR[jq]WL[150]
;B[fn]CR[fn]BL[150]
;W[fm]CR[fm]WL[150]C[ljl [12k\]: black shoukld extend?
agui [7k\]: let white connect
SitaRam [3k?\]: w catch unimportant stones
]
(;B[ep]CR[ep]BL[150]C[Scribe [-\]: black center stones can run easily
pel [10k\]: its really nice to know others do that type of misstakes :)
ticktock [14k\]: :)
stafan [-\]: :D
uwinmenow [?\]: lol
Scribe [-\]: black must save the stone at g7....g7 is a very important stone
Scribe [-\]: black g7 keeps white weak
]
(;W[gl]CR[gl]WL[150]C[lcninja [12k\]: ouch!!
SitaRam [3k?\]: w
Quinn [11k?\]: w
lcninja [12k\]: terrible!
sohvan [-\]: I like white.
biomorph [13k\]: white
moichido [11k\]: b
Kennabee [6k\]: like white
uwinmenow [?\]: b
agui [7k\]: white
SitaRam [3k?\]: ponnuki
rayen [8k\]: w got it easy
sohvan [-\]: The two stones aren't important.
Uvas [-\]: w escaped
Quinn [11k?\]: he played inside
]
;B[fp]CR[fp]BL[150]C[Bodo212 [15k\]: no thx
SitaRam [3k?\]: another game
BuddyL [7k\]: one question
uwinmenow [?\]: yesyes
SitaRam [3k?\]: the next please
agui [7k\]: no questions Thanls
uwinmenow [?\]: another game
BuddyL [7k\]: how does W make sure he is in time to pincer C7?
zee [10k\]: very clear
uwinmenow [?\]: ya
SitaRam [3k?\]: crystel
wrong [?\]: so, W+R?
]
;W[bq]CR[bq]WL[150]
;B[fo]CR[fo]BL[150]
;W[gm]CR[gm]WL[150]
;B[em]CR[em]BL[150]
;W[bm]CR[bm]WL[150]
;B[bl]CR[bl]BL[150]
;W[cn]CR[cn]WL[150]
;B[dl]CR[dl]BL[150]
;W[al]CR[al]WL[150]
;B[ak]CR[ak]BL[150]
;W[am]CR[am]WL[150]
;B[bk]CR[bk]BL[150]
;W[jm]CR[jm]WL[150]
;B[ko]CR[ko]BL[150]
;W[lp]CR[lp]WL[150]
;B[lo]CR[lo]BL[150]
;W[mp]CR[mp]WL[150]
;B[ll]CR[ll]BL[150]
;W[mo]CR[mo]WL[150]
;B[mn]CR[mn]BL[150]
;W[nn]CR[nn]WL[150]
;B[nl]CR[nl]BL[150]
;W[ln]CR[ln]WL[150]
;B[kn]CR[kn]BL[150]
;W[mm]CR[mm]WL[150]
;B[km]CR[km]BL[150]
;W[ml]CR[ml]WL[150]
;B[mk]CR[mk]BL[150]
;W[nk]CR[nk]WL[150]
;B[kk]CR[kk]BL[150]
;W[mj]CR[mj]WL[150]
;B[gj]CR[gj]BL[150]
;W[lk]CR[lk]WL[150]
;B[ij]CR[ij]BL[150]
;W[kj]CR[kj]WL[150]
;B[jk]CR[jk]BL[150]
;W[fi]CR[fi]WL[150]
;B[fg]CR[fg]BL[150]
;W[eg]CR[eg]WL[150]
;B[fj]CR[fj]BL[150]
;W[ei]CR[ei]WL[150]
;B[qq]CR[qq]BL[150]
;W[rq]CR[rq]WL[150]
;B[pq]CR[pq]BL[150]
;W[rr]CR[rr]WL[150]
;B[mr]CR[mr]BL[150]
;W[or]CR[or]WL[150]
;B[kr]CR[kr]BL[150]
;W[kq]CR[kq]WL[150]
;B[oq]CR[oq]BL[150]
;W[nr]CR[nr]WL[150]
;B[nq]CR[nq]BL[150]
;W[mq]CR[mq]WL[150]
;B[lr]CR[lr]BL[150]
;W[pr]CR[pr]WL[150]
;B[ms]CR[ms]BL[150]
;W[qr]CR[qr]WL[150]
;B[js]CR[js]BL[150]
;W[cg]CR[cg]WL[150]
;B[ee]CR[ee]BL[150]
;W[fd]CR[fd]WL[150]
;B[hc]CR[hc]BL[150]
;W[fe]CR[fe]WL[150]
;B[ef]CR[ef]BL[150]
;W[ff]CR[ff]WL[150]
;B[ed]CR[ed]BL[150]
;W[ec]CR[ec]WL[150]
;B[dg]CR[dg]BL[150]
;W[eh]CR[eh]WL[150]
;B[dh]CR[dh]BL[150]
;W[ci]CR[ci]WL[150]
;B[ch]CR[ch]BL[150]
;W[bh]CR[bh]WL[150]
;B[cf]CR[cf]BL[150]
;W[bg]CR[bg]WL[150]
;B[di]CR[di]BL[150]
;W[dj]CR[dj]WL[150]
;B[df]CR[df]BL[150]
;W[ej]CR[ej]WL[150]
;B[cj]CR[cj]BL[150]
;W[bi]CR[bi]WL[150]
;B[gg]CR[gg]BL[150]
;W[ck]CR[ck]WL[150]
;B[bj]CR[bj]BL[150]
;W[dk]CR[dk]WL[150]
;B[cl]CR[cl]BL[150]
;W[fk]CR[fk]WL[150]
;B[el]CR[el]BL[150]
;W[ek]CR[ek]WL[150]
;B[en]CR[en]BL[150]
;W[hh]CR[hh]WL[150]
;B[gf]CR[gf]BL[150]
;W[hi]CR[hi]WL[150]
;B[hj]CR[hj]BL[150]
;W[fh]CR[fh]WL[150]
;B[ji]CR[ji]BL[150]
;W[ig]CR[ig]WL[150]
;B[jg]CR[jg]BL[150]
;W[jf]CR[jf]WL[150]
;B[fc]CR[fc]BL[150]
;W[fb]CR[fb]WL[150]
;B[gc]CR[gc]BL[150]
;W[jh]CR[jh]WL[150]
;B[ki]CR[ki]BL[150]
;W[kg]CR[kg]WL[150]
;B[jj]CR[jj]BL[150]
;W[lh]CR[lh]WL[150]
;B[lj]CR[lj]BL[150]
;W[li]CR[li]WL[150]
;B[mk]CR[mk]BL[150]
;W[nj]CR[nj]WL[150]
;B[il]CR[il]BL[150]
;W[im]CR[im]WL[150]
;B[lk]CR[lk]BL[150]
;W[pf]CR[pf]WL[150]
;B[qh]CR[qh]BL[150]
;W[rf]CR[rf]WL[150]
;B[rl]CR[rl]BL[150]
;W[qj]CR[qj]WL[150]
;B[rj]CR[rj]BL[150]
;W[ri]CR[ri]WL[150]
;B[qk]CR[qk]BL[150]
;W[qi]CR[qi]WL[150]
;B[rn]CR[rn]BL[150]
;W[qm]CR[qm]WL[150]
;B[qo]CR[qo]BL[150]
;W[ro]CR[ro]WL[150]
;B[qn]CR[qn]BL[150]
;W[pm]CR[pm]WL[150]
;B[om]CR[om]BL[150]
;W[on]CR[on]WL[150]
;B[pn]CR[pn]BL[150]
;W[ol]CR[ol]WL[150]
;B[pp]CR[pp]BL[150]
;W[rp]CR[rp]WL[150]
;B[rm]CR[rm]BL[150]
;W[sj]CR[sj]WL[150]
;B[rd]CR[rd]BL[150]
;W[nc]CR[nc]WL[150]
;B[ob]CR[ob]BL[150]
;W[oc]CR[oc]WL[150]
;B[pb]CR[pb]BL[150]
;W[oe]CR[oe]WL[150]
;B[bc]CR[bc]BL[150]
;W[bb]CR[bb]WL[150]
;B[cb]CR[cb]BL[150]
;W[cc]CR[cc]WL[150]
;B[ab]CR[ab]BL[150]
;W[ba]CR[ba]WL[150]
;B[ca]CR[ca]BL[150]
;W[bd]CR[bd]WL[150]
;B[aa]CR[aa]BL[150]
;W[cd]CR[cd]WL[150]
;B[be]CR[be]BL[150]
;W[ad]CR[ad]WL[150]
;B[ae]CR[ae]BL[150]
;W[gb]CR[gb]WL[150]
;B[hb]CR[hb]BL[150]
;W[db]CR[db]WL[150]
;B[da]CR[da]BL[150]
;W[ea]CR[ea]WL[150]
;B[dd]CR[dd]BL[150]
;W[bb]CR[bb]WL[150]
;B[ba]CR[ba]BL[150]
;W[ga]CR[ga]WL[150]
;B[nb]CR[nb]BL[150]
;W[mc]CR[mc]WL[150]
;B[kc]CR[kc]BL[150]
;W[me]CR[me]WL[150]
;B[re]CR[re]BL[150]
;W[qe]CR[qe]WL[150]
;B[mb]CR[mb]BL[150]
;W[qc]CR[qc]WL[150]
;B[qd]CR[qd]BL[150]
;W[pc]CR[pc]WL[150]
;B[rb]CR[rb]BL[150]
;W[rc]CR[rc]WL[150]
;B[sc]CR[sc]BL[150]
;W[qb]CR[qb]WL[150]
;B[qa]CR[qa]BL[150]
;W[sb]CR[sb]WL[150]
;B[sa]CR[sa]BL[150]
;W[pa]CR[pa]WL[150]
;B[oa]CR[oa]BL[150]
;W[sd]CR[sd]WL[150]
;B[se]CR[se]BL[150]
;W[sf]CR[sf]WL[150]C[allexya [2k\]: thx
sinaia [1k\]: thx

])
(;W[fp]CR[fp]
;B[fo]CR[fo]C[CentarKG [4k?\]: f5
]))
(;B[gl]CR[gl]))
(;B[fm]CR[fm]C[olczyk [14k\]: no eyes yet.
CentarKG [4k?\]: l5
]
;W[im]CR[im]
;B[jp]CR[jp]
;W[jq]CR[jq]
;B[kn]CR[kn]))
(;W[]C[wrong [?\]: an B F7 is also sente
]
;B[kq]CR[kq]))
(;W[]
(;B[jp]CR[jp]C[wrong [?\]: it's difficult to see the future on the board
])
(;B[jo]CR[jo])
(;B[kp]CR[kp])))
(;B[]LB[iq:A]C[Scribe [-\]: black lives in corner
agui [7k\]: yes
Bodo212 [15k\]: yes
Scribe [-\]: lower left black group is already alive, so white j3 is an overplay
Scribe [-\]: it does not split two weak groups, it splits a live group and a group that can run easily
Tarkam [10k?\]: ok
SitaRam [3k?\]: hihi
Uvas [-\]: yes
agui [7k\]: yes
grossebaf [5k?\]: ok
Bodo212 [15k\]: clear
Conch [13k\]: yes
uwinmenow [?\]: yes
SitaRam [3k?\]: ceystel
Hu [10k\]: Good.
ruger [16k\]: yes
wrong [?\]: never use principle: first cut, then think
uwinmenow [?\]: lol
josba: cut first, think later...
uwinmenow [?\]: x[)
BuddyL [7k\]: cut first, don't think later
Azumii2: wrong principle
uwinmenow [?\]: o.0
]
(;W[bq]CR[bq]C[wrong [?\]: but W has bad aji
SitaRam [3k?\]: yeah
]
;B[br]CR[br]C[rayen [8k\]: yup
]
;W[ar]CR[ar]
;B[hr]CR[hr]
;W[ir]CR[ir]
;B[hs]CR[hs])
(;W[br]CR[br]
(;B[hr]CR[hr]
(;W[ir]CR[ir]
;B[hs]CR[hs]
;W[cs]CR[cs]C[Scribe [-\]: black dead
]
;B[ds]CR[ds]
;W[fs]CR[fs]C[SitaRam [3k?\]: ko
])
(;W[bq]CR[bq]))
(;B[bq]CR[bq]
(;W[cp]CR[cp]
;B[bs]CR[bs])
(;W[aq]CR[aq]
;B[cp]CR[cp]
(;W[co]CR[co]
;B[ap]CR[ap]
;W[bp]CR[bp]
;B[ar]CR[ar]
;W[cq]CR[cq]
;B[bs]CR[bs])
(;W[bp]CR[bp]
;B[cq]CR[cq]C[wrong [?\]: B lives again
]
;W[co]CR[co]C[uwinmenow [?\]: lol
wrong [?\]: C1
SitaRam [3k?\]: c1
CentarKG [4k?\]: a2
goshu [7k?\]: a2
uwinmenow [?\]: b1?
Kennabee [6k\]: A2
Kennabee [6k\]: C1
gohaschaos [?\]: c1
Stalker [8k\]: a2
murky: a4
HeinBloed: a2
mok [8k\]: a2
JamesJoker [8k\]: c1
LeWiZ [11k\]: a2
]
;B[ar]CR[ar]
;W[as]CR[as]
;B[cs]CR[cs]
;W[ap]CR[ap]
;B[hr]CR[hr]
;W[ir]CR[ir]
;B[hs]CR[hs]C[SitaRam [3k?\]: yeah
uwinmenow [?\]: b lives
Uvas [-\]: nice
uwinmenow [?\]: ya
])))))
(;B[bq]CR[bq])
(;B[jp]CR[jp])
(;B[jo]CR[jo])
(;B[ko]CR[ko]))
(;W[gm]CR[gm]C[Scribe [-\]: now black is pushing from behind, white is gaining strength faster
]
;B[iq]CR[iq]LB[gm:D][gn:B][hn:C][ho:A]C[Scribe [-\]: even after two pushes black must come back to play j3
]
(;W[ck]CR[ck])
(;W[ci]CR[ci]C[Scribe [-\]: attacks black c7
])))
(;B[iq]CR[iq]
;W[ho]CR[ho]
;B[ip]CR[ip]
;W[ci]CR[ci])
(;B[ip]CR[ip]C[Scribe [-\]: playing j3 gives white a forcing move at h4 and allows white to take sente
Scribe [-\]: j4 is best
Conch [13k\]: yes
SitaRam [3k?\]: yes
coronalis [17k\]: yes
agui [7k\]: yes
Kennabee [6k\]: Yes
HeinBloed: yes
Scribe [-\]: prevents white from forcing at h5
]))
(;W[go]CR[go]))
(;B[hq]LB[gp:A][hq:B]TR[eq][fq][gq]C[Scribe [-\]: extension to h3 is better for black, allow white to push from behind, black walks ahead and takes profit
Scribe [-\]: white's shape is weak
][Scribe [-\]: extension to h3 is better for black, allow white to push from behind, black walks ahead and takes profit
Scribe [-\]: white's shape is weak
]))
(;W[ck]CR[ck])
(;W[bq]CR[bq]))
(;B[fp]CR[fp]C[SitaRam [3k?\]: yes
rayen [8k\]: no
agui [7k\]: no
Kanin [1d\]: yes
BuddyL [7k\]: D6
Selina [?\]: no
dmnk [6k?\]: no
Tulambar [11k?\]: No
HeinBloed: no
BuddyL [7k\]: E6
Quinn [11k?\]: no
goshu [7k?\]: no
]
;W[en]CR[en]C[Conch [13k\]: no
Kennabee [6k\]: ์น
ruger [16k\]: no
Azumii: no
]
;B[dk]CR[dk]C[wrong [?\]: this is joseki???
]
;W[hq]CR[hq]C[olczyk [14k\]: I know what to do-- panic.
]))