(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1200]OT[10x120 byo-yomi] PW[hiro1948]PB[rayen]WR[8k]BR[8k]DT[2006-04-09]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[rayen [8k\]: hi rayen [8k\]: hf Templar [?\]: hello Titonio [-\]: hi Ophelia [11k?\]: hi Ruutana [4k\]: Hello. reed338 [25k?\]: hello cutie Stalker [8k\]: hello Xanthus [-\]: hello! kirkbobic [14k\]: hi TenukiBoy [6k\]: hello !!! MRei [?\]: hello agui [7k\]: Hello Myshkin [19k\]: yes Ophelia [11k?\]: good. I hear you fine! agui [7k\]: yes fryskenfry [17k\]: hi there! ruger [15k\]: hi Scribe [-\]: Nihao Guo Juan Laohis Scribe [-\]: Laoshi murky: That's a great game Scribe [-\]: Moyo is very hard to maintain gogogo07 [9k\]: how to win a won game SitaRam [1d?\]: hello guo xDarigaaz [8k?\]: hi DrGoPlayer [-\]: mingju's game is still showing on cyberoro murky: no competitation Azumii: he's still aterrific player janmarco [16k?\]: hello Forou [?\]: cool :D Forou [?\]: :) Forou [?\]: wheeee Myshkin [19k\]: yeah fryskenfry [17k\]: maybe some politics? :) ] (;B[pd]CR[pd]BL[2394.139] (;W[dd]CR[dd]WL[2397.547] ;B[pq]CR[pq]BL[2392.261]C[hiro1948 [8k\]: お願いします ] ;W[dp]CR[dp]WL[2387.443] ;B[fq]CR[fq]BL[2389.704] (;W[iq]CR[iq]WL[2382.729] ;B[cq]CR[cq]BL[2387.818] ;W[dq]CR[dq]WL[2379.128] ;B[cp]CR[cp]BL[2386.58] ;W[do]CR[do]WL[2375.408] ;B[dr]CR[dr]BL[2385.549] ;W[er]CR[er]WL[2371.646] ;B[cr]CR[cr]BL[2384.695] ;W[eq]CR[eq]WL[2368.91] ;B[cn]CR[cn]BL[2383.687] ;W[fp]CR[fp]WL[2363.684]C[Forou [?\]: oooh ! SitaRam [1d?\]: hm Scribe [-\]: white can connect underneath due to play at h3, therefore white maintains sente TenukiBoy [6k\]: is f4 mandatory ? Scribe [-\]: with j3 white loses sente ] ;B[qo]CR[qo]BL[2373.613] ;W[nc]CR[nc]WL[2351.519] ;B[qf]CR[qf]BL[2370.054] ;W[kc]CR[kc]WL[2347.356]C[TenukiBoy [6k\]: hmmmm xDarigaaz [8k?\]: haha Xanthus [-\]: :) KsiWave [?\]: hahah Scribe [-\]: the big areas are top left and bottom in front of corner enclosure Forou [?\]: I would want white to play r10 so I can attack white:) olczyk [14k\]: 3 line is the direction of development for LL enclosure. KsiWave [?\]: why not c15? MRei [?\]: why not c14? KsiWave [?\]: i mean c14 ] (;B[qj]BL[2342.245]TR[qf][qj][cn][qo]C[Forou [?\]: you are not connected if you dont do f4 Tenukiboy Scribe [-\]: r10 is not valuable Vanya [10k?\]: R10 too low? SakuraHime [8k?\]: flat puzi [?\]: use shimari Celila [11k?\]: hehe SakuraHime [8k?\]: ^-^ ][Forou [?\]: you are not connected if you dont do f4 Tenukiboy Scribe [-\]: r10 is not valuable Vanya [10k?\]: R10 too low? SakuraHime [8k?\]: flat puzi [?\]: use shimari Celila [11k?\]: hehe SakuraHime [8k?\]: ^-^ ] (;W[ci]CR[ci]WL[2329.045]LB[fc:A][kq:B]C[olczyk [14k\]: Why approach from top instead of left? KsiWave [?\]: ok, so like tempo GeorgeW [7k\]: 先手 Scribe [-\]: first hand birne [1k\]: what is the proper answer to w C8? MRei [?\]: top left Scribe [-\]: leading hand Hinek [23k?\]: compare: 後手 ] (;B[fc]CR[fc]BL[2323.868]C[Blaubaer [6d?\]: c17 KsiWave [?\]: ok i know chinese, that makes more sense now haha scKevinjf [22k\]: E17 for black? scKevinjf [22k\]: err before that Forou [?\]: e17 Vanya [10k?\]: e17 denis2: D14 SitaRam [1d?\]: e17 agui [7k\]: E17 MRei [?\]: e 17 then bottom puzi [?\]: n3 :) ] (;W[dc]CR[dc]WL[2312.444] ;B[ic]CR[ic]BL[2321.781]C[olczyk [14k\]: Wait until your opponent is watching :) ] ;W[ke]CR[ke]WL[2306.916] ;B[fe]CR[fe]BL[2319.251]LB[df:A]C[olczyk [14k\]: Not much of a loss for W. B OC on top. ] (;W[df]CR[df]WL[2303.168]C[Scribe [-\]: better to loose a little bit locally to retain sente and get profit in more than one area ] (;B[ck]CR[ck]BL[2308.272] (;W[ei]CR[ei]WL[2296.79] (;B[fk]CR[fk]BL[2280.355]C[Forou [?\]: no weak groups to attack here :( ] ;W[dk]CR[dk]WL[2288.16] ;B[dl]CR[dl]BL[2278.362]C[SitaRam [1d?\]: dont waste moves ] ;W[ek]CR[ek]WL[2283.91] ;B[el]CR[el]BL[2274.396]C[wingnut [-\]: lol ] ;W[fj]CR[fj]WL[2279.65] ;B[kq]CR[kq]BL[2262.349]C[dodo4: black coffee? :-) olczyk [14k\]: Does that mean I have to put away my ncoffee? Vanya [10k?\]: he remebered ] ;W[fl]CR[fl]WL[2261.992] ;B[kn]BL[2257.787]TR[qo][pq]SQ[kn][kq]C[TenukiBoy [6k\]: well done rayen ;) dodo4: it is not the area black wants territory SitaRam [1d?\]: black very strong there agui [7k\]: no space to extend Vanya [10k?\]: b makes territory while attacking xDarigaaz [8k?\]: i will invade at P5 :) Scribe [-\]: white invasion at r12 is mistaken wingnut [-\]: N3 mstarsup5 [5k\]: because it helps B get the corner and solidify his moyo zeroblue42 [16k\]: N12 kyuplayer1 [10k\]: 010 Scribe [-\]: r12 is not the large black area SitaRam [1d?\]: p10 Forou [?\]: 10P? Vanya [10k?\]: p10 olczyk [14k\]: O5 scKevinjf [22k\]: O4 fryskenfry [17k\]: o4 KsiWave [?\]: right side agui [7k\]: on the lower area Blaubaer [6d?\]: p5 rayen [8k\]: lower part puzi [?\]: lower right Spartan101 [5k?\]: bttom right Harleqin [3k\]: lower right quadrant MRei [?\]: lower right Forou [?\]: p10 olczyk [14k\]: P5 SitaRam [1d?\]: p9 Spartan101 [5k?\]: q 8 ^^ play4fun [?\]: O8 denis2: N6 Vanya [10k?\]: q9? MRei [?\]: o7 SitaRam [1d?\]: q9 SitaRam [1d?\]: or p9 Forou [?\]: hard one.. KsiWave [?\]: p5 fryskenfry [17k\]: m4? Scribe [-\]: where is black's weak spot in major area (lower right) ? hansb [5k\]: Q6 Harleqin [3k\]: q6 perhaps kirkbobic [14k\]: m4 rayen [8k\]: L3 L6 puzi [?\]: N3 SitaRam [1d?\]: left are more weak ][TenukiBoy [6k\]: well done rayen ;) dodo4: it is not the area black wants territory SitaRam [1d?\]: black very strong there agui [7k\]: no space to extend Vanya [10k?\]: b makes territory while attacking xDarigaaz [8k?\]: i will invade at P5 :) Scribe [-\]: white invasion at r12 is mistaken wingnut [-\]: N3 mstarsup5 [5k\]: because it helps B get the corner and solidify his moyo zeroblue42 [16k\]: N12 kyuplayer1 [10k\]: 010 Scribe [-\]: r12 is not the large black area SitaRam [1d?\]: p10 Forou [?\]: 10P? Vanya [10k?\]: p10 olczyk [14k\]: O5 scKevinjf [22k\]: O4 fryskenfry [17k\]: o4 KsiWave [?\]: right side agui [7k\]: on the lower area Blaubaer [6d?\]: p5 rayen [8k\]: lower part puzi [?\]: lower right Spartan101 [5k?\]: bttom right Harleqin [3k\]: lower right quadrant MRei [?\]: lower right Forou [?\]: p10 olczyk [14k\]: P5 SitaRam [1d?\]: p9 Spartan101 [5k?\]: q 8 ^^ play4fun [?\]: O8 denis2: N6 Vanya [10k?\]: q9? MRei [?\]: o7 ][TenukiBoy [6k\]: well done rayen ;) dodo4: it is not the area black wants territory SitaRam [1d?\]: black very strong there agui [7k\]: no space to extend Vanya [10k?\]: b makes territory while attacking xDarigaaz [8k?\]: i will invade at P5 :) Scribe [-\]: white invasion at r12 is mistaken wingnut [-\]: N3 mstarsup5 [5k\]: because it helps B get the corner and solidify his moyo zeroblue42 [16k\]: N12 kyuplayer1 [10k\]: 010 Scribe [-\]: r12 is not the large black area SitaRam [1d?\]: p10 Forou [?\]: 10P? Vanya [10k?\]: p10 olczyk [14k\]: O5 scKevinjf [22k\]: O4 fryskenfry [17k\]: o4 KsiWave [?\]: right side agui [7k\]: on the lower area Blaubaer [6d?\]: p5 rayen [8k\]: lower part puzi [?\]: lower right Spartan101 [5k?\]: bttom right Harleqin [3k\]: lower right quadrant MRei [?\]: lower right Forou [?\]: p10 olczyk [14k\]: P5 SitaRam [1d?\]: p9 Spartan101 [5k?\]: q 8 ^^ play4fun [?\]: O8 denis2: N6 Vanya [10k?\]: q9? MRei [?\]: o7 ][TenukiBoy [6k\]: well done rayen ;) dodo4: it is not the area black wants territory SitaRam [1d?\]: black very strong there agui [7k\]: no space to extend Vanya [10k?\]: b makes territory while attacking xDarigaaz [8k?\]: i will invade at P5 :) Scribe [-\]: white invasion at r12 is mistaken wingnut [-\]: N3 mstarsup5 [5k\]: because it helps B get the corner and solidify his moyo zeroblue42 [16k\]: N12 kyuplayer1 [10k\]: 010 Scribe [-\]: r12 is not the large black area SitaRam [1d?\]: p10 Forou [?\]: 10P? Vanya [10k?\]: p10 olczyk [14k\]: O5 scKevinjf [22k\]: O4 fryskenfry [17k\]: o4 KsiWave [?\]: right side agui [7k\]: on the lower area Blaubaer [6d?\]: p5 rayen [8k\]: lower part puzi [?\]: lower right Spartan101 [5k?\]: bttom right Harleqin [3k\]: lower right quadrant MRei [?\]: lower right Forou [?\]: p10 olczyk [14k\]: P5 SitaRam [1d?\]: p9 Spartan101 [5k?\]: q 8 ^^ play4fun [?\]: O8 denis2: N6 Vanya [10k?\]: q9? MRei [?\]: o7 ][TenukiBoy [6k\]: well done rayen ;) dodo4: it is not the area black wants territory SitaRam [1d?\]: black very strong there agui [7k\]: no space to extend Vanya [10k?\]: b makes territory while attacking xDarigaaz [8k?\]: i will invade at P5 :) Scribe [-\]: white invasion at r12 is mistaken wingnut [-\]: N3 mstarsup5 [5k\]: because it helps B get the corner and solidify his moyo zeroblue42 [16k\]: N12 kyuplayer1 [10k\]: 010 Scribe [-\]: r12 is not the large black area SitaRam [1d?\]: p10 Forou [?\]: 10P? Vanya [10k?\]: p10 olczyk [14k\]: O5 scKevinjf [22k\]: O4 fryskenfry [17k\]: o4 KsiWave [?\]: right side agui [7k\]: on the lower area Blaubaer [6d?\]: p5 rayen [8k\]: lower part puzi [?\]: lower right Spartan101 [5k?\]: bttom right Harleqin [3k\]: lower right quadrant MRei [?\]: lower right Forou [?\]: p10 olczyk [14k\]: P5 SitaRam [1d?\]: p9 Spartan101 [5k?\]: q 8 ^^ play4fun [?\]: O8 denis2: N6 Vanya [10k?\]: q9? MRei [?\]: o7 ][TenukiBoy [6k\]: well done rayen ;) dodo4: it is not the area black wants territory SitaRam [1d?\]: black very strong there agui [7k\]: no space to extend Vanya [10k?\]: b makes territory while attacking xDarigaaz [8k?\]: i will invade at P5 :) Scribe [-\]: white invasion at r12 is mistaken wingnut [-\]: N3 mstarsup5 [5k\]: because it helps B get the corner and solidify his moyo zeroblue42 [16k\]: N12 kyuplayer1 [10k\]: 010 Scribe [-\]: r12 is not the large black area SitaRam [1d?\]: p10 Forou [?\]: 10P? Vanya [10k?\]: p10 olczyk [14k\]: O5 scKevinjf [22k\]: O4 fryskenfry [17k\]: o4 KsiWave [?\]: right side agui [7k\]: on the lower area Blaubaer [6d?\]: p5 rayen [8k\]: lower part puzi [?\]: lower right Spartan101 [5k?\]: bttom right Harleqin [3k\]: lower right quadrant MRei [?\]: lower right Forou [?\]: p10 olczyk [14k\]: P5 SitaRam [1d?\]: p9 Spartan101 [5k?\]: q 8 ^^ play4fun [?\]: O8 denis2: N6 Vanya [10k?\]: q9? MRei [?\]: o7 ][TenukiBoy [6k\]: well done rayen ;) dodo4: it is not the area black wants territory SitaRam [1d?\]: black very strong there agui [7k\]: no space to extend Vanya [10k?\]: b makes territory while attacking xDarigaaz [8k?\]: i will invade at P5 :) Scribe [-\]: white invasion at r12 is mistaken wingnut [-\]: N3 mstarsup5 [5k\]: because it helps B get the corner and solidify his moyo zeroblue42 [16k\]: N12 kyuplayer1 [10k\]: 010 Scribe [-\]: r12 is not the large black area SitaRam [1d?\]: p10 Forou [?\]: 10P? Vanya [10k?\]: p10 olczyk [14k\]: O5 scKevinjf [22k\]: O4 fryskenfry [17k\]: o4 KsiWave [?\]: right side agui [7k\]: on the lower area Blaubaer [6d?\]: p5 rayen [8k\]: lower part puzi [?\]: lower right Spartan101 [5k?\]: bttom right Harleqin [3k\]: lower right quadrant MRei [?\]: lower right Forou [?\]: p10 olczyk [14k\]: P5 SitaRam [1d?\]: p9 Spartan101 [5k?\]: q 8 ^^ play4fun [?\]: O8 denis2: N6 Vanya [10k?\]: q9? MRei [?\]: o7 ][TenukiBoy [6k\]: well done rayen ;) dodo4: it is not the area black wants territory SitaRam [1d?\]: black very strong there agui [7k\]: no space to extend Vanya [10k?\]: b makes territory while attacking xDarigaaz [8k?\]: i will invade at P5 :) Scribe [-\]: white invasion at r12 is mistaken wingnut [-\]: N3 mstarsup5 [5k\]: because it helps B get the corner and solidify his moyo zeroblue42 [16k\]: N12 kyuplayer1 [10k\]: 010 Scribe [-\]: r12 is not the large black area SitaRam [1d?\]: p10 Forou [?\]: 10P? Vanya [10k?\]: p10 olczyk [14k\]: O5 scKevinjf [22k\]: O4 fryskenfry [17k\]: o4 KsiWave [?\]: right side agui [7k\]: on the lower area Blaubaer [6d?\]: p5 rayen [8k\]: lower part puzi [?\]: lower right Spartan101 [5k?\]: bttom right Harleqin [3k\]: lower right quadrant MRei [?\]: lower right Forou [?\]: p10 olczyk [14k\]: P5 SitaRam [1d?\]: p9 Spartan101 [5k?\]: q 8 ^^ play4fun [?\]: O8 denis2: N6 Vanya [10k?\]: q9? MRei [?\]: o7 ] (;W[qh]CR[qh]WL[2248.673]C[Scribe [-\]: finally black played the most important point of L3 rayen [8k\]: :) olczyk [14k\]: Don't touch weak stone. scKevinjf [22k\]: makes black stronger Anomen [14k\]: Q12 ? MRei [?\]: it makes white stronger rayen [8k\]: I can connect KsiWave [?\]: black has too much influence fryskenfry [17k\]: r7 morespace agui [7k\]: black strong on both sides Forou [?\]: becoz you can attack it while taking big territory? olczyk [14k\]: Black can strengthen around R10 Spartan101 [5k?\]: q 8 would be interesting for w to play Forou [?\]: old pro game? ] (;B[ph]CR[ph]BL[2254.636]C[rayen [8k\]: haha no :p Scribe [-\]: DO NOT TOUCH WEAK STONE rayen [8k\]: ok :( Vanya [10k?\]: can't touch this Anomen [14k\]: so where :O scKevinjf [22k\]: problem~ wingnut [-\]: probems :) SitaRam [1d?\]: from mc hammer puzi [?\]: dumdidedum ^^ xDarigaaz [8k?\]: problems KsiWave [?\]: game olczyk [14k\]: Game sajmon [13k\]: new game MRei [?\]: problems mstarsup5 [5k\]: problems :D Forou [?\]: 1d game!!! TenukiBoy [6k\]: game !!!! puzi [?\]: tsumego :) Ophelia [11k?\]: game Shikasta [15k\]: game Forou [?\]: both ^_^ mpu [-\]: game Selina [?\]: game ruger [15k\]: game kirkbobic [14k\]: game Vanya [10k?\]: game is better Selina [?\]: game Forou [?\]: game game kyuplayer1 [10k\]: both KsiWave [?\]: haha ] ;W[pg]CR[pg]WL[2211.323] ;B[qg]CR[qg]BL[2251.371] ;W[pi]CR[pi]WL[2208.117] ;B[rh]CR[rh]BL[2249.672] ;W[oh]CR[oh]WL[2205.145]C[mstarsup5 [5k\]: no, 8k game lol Forou [?\]: oh ^_^ ] ;B[qi]CR[qi]BL[2244.893]C[mstarsup5 [5k\]: haha olczyk [14k\]: Giving away 30 points! ] ;W[gd]CR[gd]WL[2184.141] ;B[gc]CR[gc]BL[2241.2] ;W[fd]CR[fd]WL[2180.555] ;B[hd]CR[hd]BL[2239.395] ;W[ge]CR[ge]WL[2176.939] ;B[if]CR[if]BL[2230.365] ;W[jg]CR[jg]WL[2165.094] ;B[jd]CR[jd]BL[2225.448] ;W[kd]CR[kd]WL[2161.268] ;B[jf]CR[jf]BL[2224.498] ;W[hg]CR[hg]WL[2094.583] ;B[kf]CR[kf]BL[2206.879] ;W[lf]CR[lf]WL[2083.303] ;B[kg]CR[kg]BL[2202.502] ;W[lg]CR[lg]WL[2080.56] ;B[jh]CR[jh]BL[2201.082] ;W[ig]CR[ig]WL[2067.842] ;B[lh]CR[lh]BL[2199.539] ;W[pf]CR[pf]WL[2044.462] ;B[pe]CR[pe]BL[2185.766] ;W[qc]CR[qc]WL[2041.642] ;B[pc]CR[pc]BL[2182.746] ;W[pb]CR[pb]WL[2037.774] ;B[ob]CR[ob]BL[2181.267] ;W[qb]CR[qb]WL[2034.943] ;B[re]CR[re]BL[2172.281] ;W[oc]CR[oc]WL[2029.487] ;B[mh]CR[mh]BL[2169.379] ;W[lq]CR[lq]WL[1949.456] ;B[kp]CR[kp]BL[2148.312] ;W[kr]CR[kr]WL[1938.02] ;B[jr]CR[jr]BL[2126.493] ;W[mr]CR[mr]WL[1930.887] ;B[ks]CR[ks]BL[2123.461] ;W[lr]CR[lr]WL[1928.034] ;B[jq]CR[jq]BL[2119.285] ;W[mo]CR[mo]WL[1925.323] ;B[ir]CR[ir]BL[2113.068] ;W[mm]CR[mm]WL[1907.76] ;B[fr]CR[fr]BL[2106.795] ;W[gq]CR[gq]WL[1870.104] ;B[gr]CR[gr]BL[2101.906] ;W[fm]CR[fm]WL[1861.948] ;B[nk]CR[nk]BL[2081.535] ;W[km]CR[km]WL[1815.704] ;B[ln]CR[ln]BL[2066.853] ;W[lo]CR[lo]WL[1801.875] ;B[ko]CR[ko]BL[2064.814] ;W[mn]CR[mn]WL[1778.761] ;B[lk]CR[lk]BL[2062.549] ;W[ml]CR[ml]WL[1771.229] ;B[mk]CR[mk]BL[2059.233] ;W[kl]CR[kl]WL[1767.932] ;B[nf]CR[nf]BL[2056.283] ;W[co]CR[co]WL[1727.883] ;B[bo]CR[bo]BL[2052.388] ;W[qm]CR[qm]WL[1676.322] ;B[rn]CR[rn]BL[2040.557] ;W[rm]CR[rm]WL[1611.75] ;B[nq]CR[nq]BL[2030.885] ;W[mp]CR[mp]WL[1592.932] ;B[oo]CR[oo]BL[2003.312] ;W[om]CR[om]WL[1586.271] ;B[pl]CR[pl]BL[2000.831] ;W[pm]CR[pm]WL[1582.546] ;B[hn]CR[hn]BL[1994.91] ;W[hl]CR[hl]WL[1568.779] ;B[il]CR[il]BL[1991.472] ;W[im]CR[im]WL[1531.06] ;B[in]CR[in]BL[1953.23] ;W[ik]CR[ik]WL[1498.274] ;B[es]CR[es]BL[1942.328] ;W[dn]CR[dn]WL[1426.99] ;B[cm]CR[cm]BL[1871.078] ;W[os]CR[os]WL[1422.056] ;B[pr]CR[pr]BL[1829.316] ;W[ps]CR[ps]WL[1411.946] ;B[qs]CR[qs]BL[1816.435] ;W[ns]CR[ns]WL[1408.305] ;B[rr]CR[rr]BL[1814.995] ;W[ol]CR[ol]WL[1403.639] ;B[ok]CR[ok]BL[1808.479] ;W[oe]CR[oe]WL[1368.641] ;B[of]CR[of]BL[1805.994] ;W[ne]CR[ne]WL[1355.063] ;B[me]CR[me]BL[1790.092] ;W[le]CR[le]WL[1343.973] ;B[ng]CR[ng]BL[1764.803] ;W[cj]CR[cj]WL[1315.853] ;B[bk]CR[bk]BL[1762.467] ;W[eb]CR[eb]WL[1311.052] ;B[jb]CR[jb]BL[1760.229] ;W[kb]CR[kb]WL[1307.014] ;B[ka]CR[ka]BL[1758.85] ;W[la]CR[la]WL[1302.331] ;B[ja]CR[ja]BL[1757.753] ;W[mb]CR[mb]WL[1301.427] ;B[ai]CR[ai]BL[1755.026] ;W[aj]CR[aj]WL[1296.173] ;B[bj]CR[bj]BL[1751.543] ;W[ah]CR[ah]WL[1292.93] ;B[bi]CR[bi]BL[1748.717] ;W[bh]CR[bh]WL[1290.011] ;B[ch]CR[ch]BL[1745.62] ;W[cg]CR[cg]WL[1285.427] ;B[dh]CR[dh]BL[1741.348] ;W[bf]CR[bf]WL[1282.296] ;B[di]CR[di]BL[1737.297] ;W[eh]CR[eh]WL[1268.847] ;B[fb]CR[fb]BL[1733.671] ;W[he]CR[he]WL[1229.822] ;B[ie]CR[ie]BL[1719.052] ;W[op]CR[op]WL[1200] ;B[np]CR[np]BL[1705.999] ;W[qn]CR[qn]WL[1200] ;B[ro]CR[ro]BL[1698.427] ;W[ih]CR[ih]WL[1200] ;B[ji]CR[ji]BL[1695.826] ;W[ii]CR[ii]WL[1200] ;B[jk]CR[jk]BL[1682.31] ;W[jl]CR[jl]WL[1200] ;B[ej]CR[ej]BL[1582.787] ;W[gk]CR[gk]WL[1200] ;B[dj]CR[dj]BL[1579.52] ;W[kj]CR[kj]WL[1200] ;B[li]CR[li]BL[1563.863] ;W[lj]CR[lj]WL[1200] ;B[mj]CR[mj]BL[1561.583] ;W[hp]CR[hp]WL[1200] ;B[go]CR[go]BL[1552.423] ;W[gp]CR[gp]WL[1200] ;B[fn]CR[fn]BL[1549.427] ;W[em]CR[em]WL[1200] ;B[ec]CR[ec]BL[1542.869] ;W[db]CR[db]WL[1200] ;B[jj]CR[jj]BL[1531.668] ;W[kk]CR[kk]WL[1200] ;B[ij]CR[ij]BL[1525.546] ;W[hj]CR[hj]WL[1200] ;B[hf]CR[hf]BL[1510.213] ;W[gf]CR[gf]WL[1200] ;B[gg]CR[gg]BL[1508.953] ;W[fg]CR[fg]WL[1200] ;B[gh]CR[gh]BL[1497.979] ;W[hi]CR[hi]WL[1200] ;B[ed]CR[ed]BL[1487.984] ;W[ff]CR[ff]WL[1200] ;B[ee]CR[ee]BL[1486.607] ;W[rk]CR[rk]WL[1200] ;B[rj]CR[rj]BL[1482.88] ;W[rd]CR[rd]WL[1200] ;B[qk]CR[qk]BL[1461.923] ;W[rl]CR[rl]WL[1200] ;B[de]CR[de]BL[1438.557] ;W[ce]CR[ce]WL[1200] ;B[ef]CR[ef]BL[1423.81] ;W[eg]CR[eg]WL[1200] ;B[dg]CR[dg]BL[1421.77] ;W[cf]CR[cf]WL[1200] ;B[fi]CR[fi]BL[1420.06] ;W[se]CR[se]WL[1200] ;B[sf]CR[sf]BL[1417.855] ;W[qe]CR[qe]WL[1200] ;B[qd]CR[qd]BL[1415.88] ;W[od]CR[od]WL[1200] ;B[qe]CR[qe]BL[1411.594] ;W[rg]CR[rg]WL[1200] ;B[sd]CR[sd]BL[1408.805] ;W[rc]CR[rc]WL[1200] ;B[mf]CR[mf]BL[1397.665] ;W[sh]CR[sh]WL[1200] ;B[ri]CR[ri]BL[1395.843] ;W[sc]CR[sc]WL[1200] ;B[ph]CR[ph]BL[1386.134] ;W[pp]CR[pp]WL[1200] ;B[qp]CR[qp]BL[1382.235] ;W[qh]CR[qh]WL[1200] ;B[sg]CR[sg]BL[1378.838] ;W[se]CR[se]WL[1200] ;B[ph]CR[ph]BL[1377.534] ;W[po]CR[po]WL[1200] ;B[sd]CR[sd]BL[1369.989] ;W[hr]CR[hr]WL[1200] ;B[hs]CR[hs]BL[1367.473] ;W[se]CR[se]WL[1200] ;B[rf]CR[rf]BL[1363.223] ;W[jn]CR[jn]WL[1200] ;B[io]CR[io]BL[1359.548] ;W[fa]CR[fa]WL[1200] ;B[ga]CR[ga]BL[1354.069] ;W[ea]CR[ea]WL[1200] ;B[hq]CR[hq]BL[1346.317] ;W[ip]CR[ip]WL[1200] ;B[jo]CR[jo]BL[1344.082] ;W[hr]CR[hr]WL[1200] ;B[oq]CR[oq]BL[1336.14] ;W[pn]CR[pn]WL[1200] ;B[no]CR[no]BL[1333.427] ;W[gi]CR[gi]WL[1200] ;B[hq]CR[hq]BL[1304.972] ;W[qh]CR[qh]WL[1200] ;B[sd]CR[sd]BL[1301.771] ;W[hr]CR[hr]WL[1200] ;B[md]CR[md]BL[1299.375] ;W[jc]CR[jc]WL[1200] ;B[hb]CR[hb]BL[1290.779] ;W[ki]CR[ki]WL[1200] ;B[kh]CR[kh]BL[1288.003] ;W[dm]CR[dm]WL[1200] ;B[fk]CR[fk]BL[1284.767] ;W[ek]CR[ek]WL[1200] ;B[hq]CR[hq]BL[1280.745] ;W[bn]CR[bn]WL[1200] ;B[bm]CR[bm]BL[1277.415] ;W[hr]CR[hr]WL[1200] ;B[fs]CR[fs]BL[1266.894] ;W[sn]CR[sn]WL[1200] ;B[so]CR[so]BL[1262.473] ;W[ds]CR[ds]WL[1200] ;B[cs]CR[cs]BL[1260.057] ;W[is]CR[is]WL[1200] ;B[hq]CR[hq]BL[1257.446] ;W[bp]CR[bp]WL[1200] ;B[an]CR[an]BL[1255.323] ;W[hr]CR[hr]WL[1200] ;B[js]CR[js]BL[1254.171] ;W[mg]CR[mg]WL[1200] ;B[nh]CR[nh]BL[1251.531] ;W[sm]CR[sm]WL[1200] ;B[mc]CR[mc]BL[1247.145] ;W[nb]CR[nb]WL[1200] ;B[oa]CR[oa]BL[1241.891] ;W[pa]CR[pa]WL[1200] ;B[hq]CR[hq]BL[1232.042] ;W[qq]CR[qq]WL[1200] ;B[rq]CR[rq]BL[1229.943] ;W[hr]CR[hr]WL[1200] ;B[sk]CR[sk]BL[1200] ;W[ql]CR[ql]WL[1200]) (;B[oj]CR[oj] ;W[oh]CR[oh] ;B[pb]CR[pb])) (;W[] (;B[ph]CR[ph]) (;B[lk]CR[lk]C[xDarigaaz [8k?\]: invade at P5 ])) (;W[mq]CR[mq]C[Forou [?\]: n3? Forou [?\]: ah:D ] (;B[] ;W[kr]CR[kr]C[Scribe [-\]: stones on line L area weaker ] ;B[lr]CR[lr] ;W[lq]CR[lq] ;B[jr]CR[jr] ;W[kp]CR[kp] ;B[jq]CR[jq] ;W[jp]CR[jp]) (;B[lp]CR[lp] ;W[oq]CR[oq] ;B[pp]CR[pp] ;W[pr]CR[pr]C[Scribe [-\]: invade closer to the weaker stones...more pressure on the weaker stones ] ;B[qr]CR[qr]C[Forou [?\]: nice!! ] (;W[no]CR[no]C[Vanya [10k?\]: o2 ]) (;W[kr]CR[kr] ;B[jr]CR[jr] ;W[lr]CR[lr] ;B[jq]CR[jq] ;W[nr]CR[nr]C[olczyk [14k\]: If Black had played L5 instead of L6? ]))) (;W[nq]CR[nq] ;B[mp]CR[mp]C[KsiWave [?\]: what were the rankings of the players of this game? ])) (;B[kq]CR[kq]C[Scribe [-\]: wrong direction of play...white is alive on both sides so coming out at f9 is not valuable SitaRam [1d?\]: yes Vanya [10k?\]: yes Bodo212 [15k\]: yes thx Harleqin [3k\]: f9 is basically almost a neutral point ] ;W[ek]CR[ek] ;B[ko]CR[ko] ;W[io]CR[io] ;B[km]CR[km] ;W[dn]CR[dn] ;B[cm]CR[cm]C[fryskenfry [17k\]: how strong are the players? ] ;W[im]CR[im] ;B[kk]CR[kk]C[rayen [8k\]: b Forou [?\]: black :D GeorgeW [7k\]: 8k SitaRam [1d?\]: black rayen [8k\]: 8k ^^ MRei [?\]: black agui [7k\]: black Vanya [10k?\]: 4 lines against 9 nicat [8k\]: come on!! Bodo212 [15k\]: or 15 ])) (;W[lq]CR[lq])) (;B[kq]CR[kq] ;AE[qj]AB[pj]C[Scribe [-\]: black got sente good. but chose wrong area by playing at c9 ])) (;W[gd]CR[gd] (;B[fd]LB[fd:B][df:A]C[Forou [?\]: ah nice :) ] ;W[df]CR[df] ;B[kq]CR[kq] ;W[hb]CR[hb]) (;B[gc]CR[gc] ;W[fd]CR[fd] ;B[hd]CR[hd] ;W[ge]CR[ge] ;B[he]CR[he] ;W[gf]CR[gf]))) (;W[ec]CR[ec]C[mstarsup5 [5k\]: D14 ] ;B[fd]CR[fd] ;W[df]CR[df] ;B[ic]CR[ic]C[Forou [?\]: then buttom:) Vanya [10k?\]: n3 ] ;W[lq]CR[lq]C[mstarsup5 [5k\]: M3 Forou [?\]: ^_^ SitaRam [1d?\]: 8-) kyuplayer1 [10k\]: q 18 also possible? Scribe [-\]: white got sente this time....much better fro white ])) (;B[kq]CR[kq]) (;B[cc]CR[cc] ;W[dc]CR[dc]C[KsiWave [?\]: B ] ;B[cd]CR[cd]C[SitaRam [1d?\]: yes ] (;W[ce]CR[ce] ;B[be]CR[be] ;W[cf]CR[cf] ;B[bf]CR[bf] ;W[cg]CR[cg] ;B[db]CR[db] ;W[eb]CR[eb] ;B[cb]CR[cb] ;W[fc]CR[fc] ;B[kq]CR[kq]C[olczyk [14k\]: Double hane? Scribe [-\]: very good for black ]) (;W[cf]CR[cf] ;B[bf]CR[bf] (;W[lq]CR[lq] ;B[cg]CR[cg] ;W[df]CR[df] ;B[bg]CR[bg] ;W[dg]CR[dg]C[GeorgeW [7k\]: what abuot the double hane for sente? ]) (;W[cg]CR[cg] ;B[db]CR[db] ;W[eb]CR[eb] ;B[cb]CR[cb] ;W[de]CR[de] ;B[bg]CR[bg] ;W[lq]CR[lq]C[mstarsup5 [5k\]: wow Forou [?\]: or both :) Blaubaer [6d?\]: ^^ ])))) (;W[cl]CR[cl]C[Forou [?\]: well it means that your opponent didnt play something you have to answer so you can play anywhere you want to ] ;B[] ;W[bo]CR[bo] ;B[co]CR[co] ;W[bn]CR[bn]C[KsiWave [?\]: thx Myshkin [19k\]: sente is like you are on offense. Frodo [9k\]: с7 is standart answer? ])) (;B[fc]CR[fc]C[dodo4: ah, so if you're flat the opponent can roll over you and you'll lose, makes sense :) ]) (;B[kq]CR[kq]) (;B[pj]TR[qf][pj][qo]C[Scribe [-\]: better q10 on right side than r10 rayen [8k\]: yeah SitaRam [1d?\]: from the ocean ])) (;W[hq]CR[hq] ;B[cq]CR[cq] ;W[dq]CR[dq] ;B[cp]CR[cp] ;W[do]CR[do] ;B[dr]CR[dr]C[Forou [?\]: connection! ] ;W[er]CR[er] ;B[cr]CR[cr] ;W[eq]CR[eq] ;B[cn]CR[cn] ;W[qo]CR[qo]C[Forou [?\]: white can connect under .. kirkbobic [14k\]: overconcentrated SitaRam [1d?\]: h3 to near ] ;B[fo]CR[fo] ;W[fr]CR[fr]C[Forou [?\]: :D ])) (;W[dp]CR[dp] ;B[pq]CR[pq] ;W[dd]CR[dd] ;B[fc]CR[fc] ;W[cf]CR[cf] ;B[db]CR[db] ;W[cc]CR[cc] ;B[ic]CR[ic] ;W[po]CR[po] ;B[qm]CR[qm] ;W[qq]CR[qq] ;B[qp]CR[qp] ;W[pp]CR[pp] ;B[qo]CR[qo] ;W[qn]CR[qn] ;B[pn]CR[pn] ;W[rn]CR[rn] ;B[rq]CR[rq]C[GeorgeW [7k\]: 常昊 ] ;W[qr]CR[qr] ;B[ro]CR[ro] ;W[oq]CR[oq] ;B[rm]CR[rm] ;W[on]CR[on] ;B[pm]CR[pm] ;W[jd]CR[jd] ;B[jc]CR[jc] ;W[kd]CR[kd] ;B[he]CR[he] ;W[jf]CR[jf] ;B[fq]CR[fq] ;W[cn]CR[cn] ;B[iq]CR[iq] ;W[qf]CR[qf] ;B[qe]CR[qe] ;W[pf]CR[pf] ;B[nc]CR[nc] ;W[ne]CR[ne] ;B[rf]CR[rf] ;W[rg]CR[rg] ;B[re]CR[re] (;W[dj]TR[cf][dj][cn]C[KsiWave [?\]: what's sente stand for again? Grimley [5k\]: d2 looks so big scKevinjf [22k\]: u get to pick where to play next GeorgeW [7k\]: 平衡 ]) (;W[cj]CR[cj])) (;AE[pd]AW[dc][cd][ed][qf][qi][dj][pm][qn][po][dp]AB[oc][gd][qd][ce][de][dg][qo][qp][nq][pq]C[KsiWave [?\]: fuseki? Forou [?\]: problem ] (;W[] ;B[on]CR[on] ;W[pn]CR[pn]LB[dd:B][oe:A][fq:C]TR[on]C[wingnut [-\]: whole board problem scKevinjf [22k\]: c puzi [?\]: c olczyk [14k\]: C Myshkin [19k\]: c Celila [11k?\]: c rayen [8k\]: C Forou [?\]: C kyuplayer1 [10k\]: c mallow [15k\]: C Frodo [9k\]: c MRei [?\]: c Anomen [14k\]: c denis2: B hansb [5k\]: C Blaubaer [6d?\]: b seabook [8k\]: B KsiWave [?\]: C ruger [15k\]: c mpu [-\]: B Bodo212 [15k\]: c KsiWave [?\]: then A Godaisuki [6k\]: C Stalker [8k\]: c Anomen [14k\]: or a :P Grimley [5k\]: B JosefK [8k?\]: b reed338 [25k?\]: a Godaisuki [6k\]: C xDarigaaz [8k?\]: B mallow [15k\]: P6 looks like it was in preparation for C, so... agui [7k\]: A SitaRam [1d?\]: B playm8 [4k?\]: i like F14 upsidedown: B mstarsup5 [5k\]: B goshu [7k?\]: c Scribe [-\]: f3 is large area but will be a little flat Vanya [10k?\]: b? ] (;B[oe]CR[oe]) (;B[fq]CR[fq]C[MRei [?\]: too low ] ;W[cn]CR[cn]C[Scribe [-\]: p15 is too slow ] ;B[jp]CR[jp]) (;B[dd]CR[dd]C[fryskenfry [17k\]: c is consistant with p6, but b sente? ] ;W[cc]CR[cc]C[Godaisuki [6k\]: for ladder? ] ;B[ec]CR[ec] ;W[fc]CR[fc] ;B[eb]CR[eb] (;W[fb]CR[fb] ;B[fd]CR[fd]C[SitaRam [1d?\]: yeah Scribe [-\]: ladder is good for black ]) (;W[fd]CR[fd]C[Scribe [-\]: removes blacks only weakness on board ] ;B[fb]CR[fb] ;W[gc]CR[gc] ;B[gb]CR[gb] ;W[hc]CR[hc] ;B[db]CR[db] ;W[cb]CR[cb] ;B[bd]CR[bd] ;W[bc]CR[bc] ;B[be]CR[be] ;W[hb]CR[hb]C[Grimley [5k\]: b19 hansb [5k\]: B19 SitaRam [1d?\]: b18 Selina [?\]: b19 ] ;B[ba]CR[ba]C[JosefK [8k?\]: b19 Scribe [-\]: how to kill this white ? Vanya [10k?\]: b19 ]))) (;AE[cd][ed][gd][ce][de][dg][dj] ;W[] (;B[ce]CR[ce]) (;AE[qf])))) (;AW[cb][ec][ed][ce][de][cg][ch][dh]AB[bb][bc][cd][dd][ee][ef][dg][eg]LB[db:A][cf:B]TR[ce][de]C[TenukiBoy [6k\]: we'd like to hear from you a full hour ;) !!! mstarsup5 [5k\]: : ) sajmon [13k\]: B15 puzi [?\]: c14? rayen [8k\]: D18 ? jwc [?\]: c14 Hendrix [5k\]: c14 mstarsup5 [5k\]: C14 : ) saodiseng [1d\]: c14 MRei [?\]: c14 fryskenfry [17k\]: d18 wingnut [-\]: B15 SitaRam [1d?\]: b14 Stalker [8k\]: d18 ruger [15k\]: b15 JeffAmid [-\]: D18 KsiWave [?\]: b14 rayen [8k\]: c14 first maybe agui [7k\]: C14 EfeCan [26k?\]: c15 kouchi [3k\]: B15 rayen [8k\]: B15 first maybe SitaRam [1d?\]: yes fryskenfry [17k\]: yes agui [7k\]: yes Scribe [-\]: the two cutting stones are very valuable ] (;B[db]CR[db] ;W[dc]CR[dc] ;B[cc]CR[cc] ;W[eb]CR[eb] ;B[ca]CR[ca]C[pel [10k\]: c14 connects mstarsup5 [5k\]: B is best, it connects : ) ] ;W[be]CR[be]TR[ce][de][ee][ef][dg][eg]C[Forou [?\]: b is more important.... for connection Scribe [-\]: black is alive, but this is not best Scribe [-\]: two white stones at d15 and c15 are cutting stones ]) (;B[cf]CR[cf] (;W[bf]CR[bf]C[Scribe [-\]: b15 rayen [8k\]: B15 SitaRam [1d?\]: b15 puzi [?\]: b15 sajmon [13k\]: B15 xDarigaaz [8k?\]: b15 mstarsup5 [5k\]: B15 Stalker [8k\]: b15 agui [7k\]: B15 MRei [?\]: b15 ] ;B[be]CR[be]LB[bc:B][eg:A]TR[ce][de]C[Myshkin [19k\]: b15 fryskenfry [17k\]: snapback Vanya [10k?\]: b15 Forou [?\]: :) ] ;W[df]CR[df] ;B[cf]CR[cf]) (;W[be]CR[be] ;B[bf]CR[bf] ;W[df]CR[df]LB[af:2][bg:1]C[Vanya [10k?\]: a15 puzi [?\]: a15 ][Vanya [10k?\]: a15 puzi [?\]: a15 ][Vanya [10k?\]: a15 puzi [?\]: a15 ] ;B[ae]CR[ae])) (;AW[ob][qb][qc][rd][re][qf]AB[mb][rb][nc][rc][md][od][pd][qd]LB[qa:3][pb:2][pc:1]TR[qb][rb][qc][rc]SQ[ob]C[puzi [?\]: q18? dodo4: R19 Vanya [10k?\]: o18 EfeCan [26k?\]: q18 Anomen [14k\]: Q18 dodo4: Q18 indeed agui [7k\]: Q18 S41nt [3k\]: q18 rayen [8k\]: Q19 saodiseng [1d\]: q18 SitaRam [1d?\]: q18 EfeCan [26k?\]: Q18 Stalker [8k\]: q18 scKevinjf [22k\]: Q19 dodo4: R19 wrong because white will play Q18 in response puzi [?\]: r19 helps white getting liberties, q19 is r19 vice-versa SitaRam [1d?\]: yes Scribe [-\]: method of solution: SitaRam [1d?\]: yes SakuraHime [8k?\]: 2 fryskenfry [17k\]: lis=libs Scribe [-\]: 2. consider playing a move then count liberties again Scribe [-\]: reject moves that increase the opponents liberties, such as q17 and r19 ][puzi [?\]: q18? dodo4: R19 Vanya [10k?\]: o18 EfeCan [26k?\]: q18 Anomen [14k\]: Q18 dodo4: Q18 indeed agui [7k\]: Q18 S41nt [3k\]: q18 rayen [8k\]: Q19 saodiseng [1d\]: q18 SitaRam [1d?\]: q18 EfeCan [26k?\]: Q18 Stalker [8k\]: q18 scKevinjf [22k\]: Q19 ][puzi [?\]: q18? dodo4: R19 Vanya [10k?\]: o18 EfeCan [26k?\]: q18 Anomen [14k\]: Q18 dodo4: Q18 indeed agui [7k\]: Q18 S41nt [3k\]: q18 rayen [8k\]: Q19 saodiseng [1d\]: q18 SitaRam [1d?\]: q18 EfeCan [26k?\]: Q18 Stalker [8k\]: q18 scKevinjf [22k\]: Q19 ][puzi [?\]: q18? dodo4: R19 Vanya [10k?\]: o18 EfeCan [26k?\]: q18 Anomen [14k\]: Q18 dodo4: Q18 indeed agui [7k\]: Q18 S41nt [3k\]: q18 rayen [8k\]: Q19 saodiseng [1d\]: q18 SitaRam [1d?\]: q18 EfeCan [26k?\]: Q18 Stalker [8k\]: q18 scKevinjf [22k\]: Q19 ][puzi [?\]: q18? dodo4: R19 Vanya [10k?\]: o18 EfeCan [26k?\]: q18 Anomen [14k\]: Q18 dodo4: Q18 indeed agui [7k\]: Q18 S41nt [3k\]: q18 rayen [8k\]: Q19 saodiseng [1d\]: q18 SitaRam [1d?\]: q18 EfeCan [26k?\]: Q18 Stalker [8k\]: q18 scKevinjf [22k\]: Q19 ][puzi [?\]: q18? dodo4: R19 Vanya [10k?\]: o18 EfeCan [26k?\]: q18 Anomen [14k\]: Q18 dodo4: Q18 indeed agui [7k\]: Q18 S41nt [3k\]: q18 rayen [8k\]: Q19 saodiseng [1d\]: q18 SitaRam [1d?\]: q18 EfeCan [26k?\]: Q18 Stalker [8k\]: q18 scKevinjf [22k\]: Q19 ][puzi [?\]: q18? dodo4: R19 Vanya [10k?\]: o18 EfeCan [26k?\]: q18 Anomen [14k\]: Q18 dodo4: Q18 indeed agui [7k\]: Q18 S41nt [3k\]: q18 rayen [8k\]: Q19 saodiseng [1d\]: q18 SitaRam [1d?\]: q18 EfeCan [26k?\]: Q18 Stalker [8k\]: q18 scKevinjf [22k\]: Q19 ][puzi [?\]: q18? dodo4: R19 Vanya [10k?\]: o18 EfeCan [26k?\]: q18 Anomen [14k\]: Q18 dodo4: Q18 indeed agui [7k\]: Q18 S41nt [3k\]: q18 rayen [8k\]: Q19 saodiseng [1d\]: q18 SitaRam [1d?\]: q18 EfeCan [26k?\]: Q18 Stalker [8k\]: q18 scKevinjf [22k\]: Q19 ] (;B[oc]CR[oc] ;W[ra]CR[ra]C[rayen [8k\]: I changed my mind .. I like R19 ^^ Scribe [-\]: 1. count liberties...equal number for black and white here both have three liberties...every move must take away a liberty ]) (;B[pc]CR[pc]C[EfeCan [26k?\]: 2 SakuraHime [8k?\]: q18 move ] ;W[pb]CR[pb]C[fryskenfry [17k\]: we must play q18 then, or else w creates lis. ]) (;B[qa]CR[qa] ;W[pb]CR[pb]C[Vanya [10k?\]: s19 ]) (;B[pb]CR[pb]C[SitaRam [1d?\]: yes Celila [11k?\]: yes :) Forou [?\]: yes:) wingnut [-\]: yes MRei [?\]: yes Vanya [10k?\]: sure agui [7k\]: yes EfeCan [26k?\]: yes KsiWave [?\]: yes Myshkin [19k\]: yes Bodo212 [15k\]: clear Hinek [23k?\]: ok Anomen [14k\]: ya ya Prepp [?\]: ok ] (;W[ra]CR[ra] ;B[pc]CR[pc]) (;W[pc]CR[pc]C[Vanya [10k?\]: bQ19 ] ;B[oc]CR[oc] ;W[pa]CR[pa]C[Forou [?\]: 19s Anomen [14k\]: S19 SitaRam [1d?\]: s19 saodiseng [1d\]: s19 Vanya [10k?\]: s19 MRei [?\]: s19 ] ;B[ra]CR[ra]C[Stalker [8k\]: s19 rayen [8k\]: S19 JosefK [8k?\]: s19 ] ;W[qa]CR[qa]C[saodiseng [1d\]: o19 puzi [?\]: o19 rayen [8k\]: O19 Titonio [-\]: O19 SitaRam [1d?\]: o19 Stalker [8k\]: o19 JosefK [8k?\]: o19 ] ;B[na]CR[na]C[Anomen [14k\]: O19 olczyk [14k\]: O19 EfeCan [26k?\]: p19 mstarsup5 [5k\]: O919 ] ;W[sc]CR[sc] ;B[oa]CR[oa]C[EfeCan [26k?\]: sorry Forou [?\]: capture the stone that connect you got it:) ] ;AW[pm][qm][rm][po][ro][pp][rp][mq][oq][rq][nr][pr][qs][rs]AB[rn][mo][oo][so][op][sp][pq][qq][sq][qr][rr][sr]LB[pn:B][qo:A]C[puzi [?\]: r5 olczyk [14k\]: R5 scKevinjf [22k\]: R5 ? SitaRam [1d?\]: r5 KsiWave [?\]: r5 saodiseng [1d\]: r5 Vanya [10k?\]: R5 wingnut [-\]: Q6 Stalker [8k\]: r5 Javaness [5k\]: Q1 Hinek [23k?\]: Q6 Myshkin [19k\]: r5 SitaRam [1d?\]: q6 bar [21k\]: R5 Yippie [9k\]: q6 puzi [?\]: R5 MRei [?\]: q6 JosefK [8k?\]: q6 sajmon [13k\]: r5 does not live cam [16k\]: r5 rayen [8k\]: r5 SitaRam [1d?\]: q6 must SakuraHime [8k?\]: Q6 dodo4: Q6 Godaisuki [6k\]: Q6 ljl [13k\]: q6 Forou [?\]: 6Q xDarigaaz [8k?\]: q6 mstarsup5 [5k\]: q6 rayen [8k\]: q6 agui [7k\]: B Hinek [23k?\]: B ] ;W[]C[SitaRam [1d?\]: A only one eye ] (;B[qo]CR[qo] ;W[pn]CR[pn] ;B[qp]CR[qp]C[KsiWave [?\]: q6 for snapback ] ;W[rp]CR[rp]C[Scribe [-\]: only one eye ]) (;B[pn]CR[pn]C[mstarsup5 [5k\]: q6 => either connects, or makes 2 eyes ] ;W[qn]CR[qn] ;B[qo]CR[qo] ;W[on]CR[on] ;B[qp]CR[qp]C[SitaRam [1d?\]: miai ] ;W[pn]CR[pn] ;B[rp]CR[rp]C[Celila [11k?\]: ;-) Blaubaer [6d?\]: nice problem fryskenfry [17k\]: lovely :) Bodo212 [15k\]: nice cam [16k\]: ohh Prepp [?\]: ok KsiWave [?\]: nice Hinek [23k?\]: Nice kyuplayer1 [10k\]: yea Scribe [-\]: the essence is that the capture of three is sente to escape. this allows black to make two eyes or escape KsiWave [?\]: o5 for next move for w Forou [?\]: Hmmmm but just solving problems isnt the same as doing it in a game -_- Scribe [-\]: solving many problems creates the ability to recognize patterns that occur in games rayen [8k\]: ^^ kyuplayer1 [10k\]: cant u do tsumego everytime too? just one maybe? ]))) (;B[nb]CR[nb]C[Scribe [-\]: make sure that you understand which stones are fighting, white stones on r vs black stones on s ]))) (;B[qd]CR[qd] ;W[dp]CR[dp] ;B[pq]CR[pq] ;W[dc]CR[dc] ;B[oc]CR[oc] ;W[po]CR[po] ;B[qo]CR[qo] ;W[qn]CR[qn] ;B[qp]CR[qp] ;W[pm]CR[pm] ;B[nq]CR[nq] ;W[qi]CR[qi] ;B[ce]CR[ce] ;W[di]CR[di] ;B[gd]CR[gd] ;W[ed]CR[ed] ;B[dg]CR[dg] ;W[cd]CR[cd] ;B[de]CR[de] (;W[bd]CR[bd] ;B[gf]CR[gf] ;W[qf]CR[qf]) (;W[qf]CR[qf] ;B[dd]CR[dd] ;W[cc]CR[cc] ;B[ec]CR[ec] (;W[fc]CR[fc] ;B[eb]CR[eb] ;W[fb]CR[fb] ;B[fd]CR[fd] ;W[ee]CR[ee] ;B[on]CR[on] ;W[ef]CR[ef] ;B[pn]CR[pn] ;W[eg]CR[eg]) (;W[eb]CR[eb] ;B[fc]CR[fc]C[playm8 [4k?\]: now we see timing Titonio [-\]: ok Forou [?\]: okay SitaRam [1d?\]: go out! Vanya [10k?\]: bye ]))))