(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1800] PW[mingjiu]PB[mingjiu]WR[7p]BR[7p]DT[2006-06-04]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[Bodo212 [15k\]: hello jjermann [18k\]: 'llo murky: Hi Ming murky: MingJiu SenSei xDarigaaz [7k?\]: Hi cdub [?\]: hi Scribe [-\]: Nihao Mingjiu jjermann [18k\]: yes seidelin [9k\]: yes robi [12k\]: y quatschi [11k\]: yes xDarigaaz [7k?\]: yes hansili [10k\]: yes Scribe [-\]: can hear you very well reed338 [?\]: yep Bodo212 [15k\]: yes clear SitaRam [1k?\]: hello terry99 [23k\]: hello binky [13k\]: no quatschi [11k\]: nice move etl3: Next game. rayen [6k\]: :p SitaRam [1k?\]: trick us SitaRam [1k?\]: please selvina [16k?\]: ;; Ordiac [9k\]: lol quatschi [11k\]: yes rayen [6k\]: Give your best shot ! terry99 [22k\]: yeah Quinn [9k\]: you, trick me?! never! :D etl3: Homework! selvina [16k?\]: ;_) ] (;B[dp]CR[dp] ;W[pd]CR[pd] ;B[dd]CR[dd] ;W[pp]CR[pp] ;B[dj]CR[dj] ;W[fc]CR[fc] ;B[jp]CR[jp]LB[mp:C][mq:B][nq:A]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: k16 xDarigaaz [7k?\]: i like D14 playmore [1d\]: F15 Bodo212 [15k\]: k 16? Scribe [-\]: where should white play now au2 [3k\]: K16 Scribe [-\]: o3 is common ] ;W[lp]CR[lp]C[Scribe [-\]: game by a student of Jiang Mingjiu's SitaRam [1k?\]: no Bodo212 [15k\]: no binky [13k\]: no SitaRam [1k?\]: strange Scribe [-\]: n4 and n4 are possible Scribe [-\]: this move is bad RocheL [-\]: yep audio is on Scribe [-\]: m4 is bad move ] (;B[qq]CR[qq]C[murky: audio? agui [7k?\]: leaves weaknesses ]) (;B[jn]CR[jn]LB[np:A]C[Scribe [-\]: black can invade the corner too easily ]) (;B[fe]CR[fe] (;W[hd]CR[hd]) (;W[cc]CR[cc] (;B[cd]CR[cd] ;W[dc]CR[dc]C[Scribe [-\]: sente SitaRam [1k?\]: sente claus ] (;B[ed]CR[ed]) (;B[hc]CR[hc])) (;B[ce]CR[ce] ;W[cd]CR[cd]C[Scribe [-\]: better for white than c17 directly ] (;B[de]CR[de] (;W[dc]CR[dc]C[rayen [6k\]: :) ]) (;W[eb]CR[eb] ;B[dc]CR[dc] ;W[db]CR[db]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: ah SitaRam [1k?\]: nice ] ;B[be]CR[be])) (;B[dc]CR[dc]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: yes rayen [6k\]: yes agui [7k?\]: yes ] (;W[db]CR[db] (;B[eb]CR[eb] ;W[cb]CR[cb] ;B[ec]CR[ec]C[binky [13k\]: yes ] ;W[be]CR[be] ;B[cf]CR[cf] ;W[bf]CR[bf] ;B[cg]CR[cg]C[Dita [5k\]: I like W Dita [5k\]: yes ]) (;B[de]CR[de]LB[bf:A]C[Scribe [-\]: without b14 invading the left side is easier ] ;W[eb]CR[eb]LB[be:C][bf:D][bg:B][ch:A])) (;W[be]CR[be] (;B[cf]CR[cf] ;W[bf]CR[bf] ;B[cg]CR[cg] ;W[db]CR[db] ;B[eb]CR[eb] ;W[cb]CR[cb] ;B[ec]CR[ec]) (;B[bf]CR[bf]C[binky [13k\]: B14 ] ;W[db]CR[db] ;B[de]CR[de] ;W[eb]CR[eb]LB[be:A][bf:B]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: double trouble kimba [7k\]: b etl3: good for black rayen [6k\]: b Scribe [-\]: b15 for b14 is good for black SitaRam [1k?\]: yes agui [7k?\]: yes ouigkmy [18k\]: yes etl3: yes bigfish [?\]: yers Dita [5k\]: yes adHominem [13k?\]: yes ]))))) (;W[cd]CR[cd]LB[cc:A][dc:C][ce:B]C[RocheL [-\]: oO agui [7k?\]: C15 seidelin [9k\]: brilliant murky: trick move? SitaRam [1k?\]: c17 Scribe [-\]: h16 and c17 are possible plays....c16 is hard on black Hoshiman [7k\]: wasn das? playmore [1d\]: C17 binky [13k\]: C15 Hoshiman [7k\]: c17 etl3: C17. agui [7k?\]: B etl3: no agui [7k?\]: no Dita [5k\]: no murky: no Bodo212 [15k\]: no - thx ] (;B[dc]CR[dc]C[murky: C good Hoshiman [7k\]: A binky [13k\]: ok SitaRam [1k?\]: not good Scribe [-\]: black must fix cutting point at d16 ] ;W[ce]CR[ce] ;B[cc]CR[cc]C[Scribe [-\]: d17 is bad move Hoshiman [7k\]: not good ] ;W[de]CR[de]C[Hoshiman [7k\]: f17 makes good shape for white ] ;B[ee]CR[ee] ;W[ch]CR[ch]LB[ed:A]C[Scribe [-\]: white will take the left side Scribe [-\]: the left side was black's moyp Scribe [-\]: moyo ] ;B[fd]CR[fd]) (;B[cc]CR[cc] (;W[ce]CR[ce] ;B[dc]CR[dc] ;W[de]CR[de] (;B[ee]CR[ee]C[Scribe [-\]: same cutting point at e16 ] ;W[ch]CR[ch]C[Scribe [-\]: same shape as before Hoshiman [7k\]: lol SitaRam [1k?\]: ;-) etl3: D17 at E17? Scribe [-\]: good enough for white ]) (;B[ch]CR[ch] ;W[ee]CR[ee] ;B[ed]CR[ed] ;W[fd]CR[fd]C[Scribe [-\]: this fighting good for whtie ])) (;W[dc]CR[dc] (;B[ec]CR[ec] ;W[db]CR[db] ;B[ce]CR[ce]C[Hoshiman [7k\]: juhu ] ;W[bd]CR[bd] (;B[de]CR[de]) (;B[bc]CR[bc] ;W[be]CR[be] ;B[eb]CR[eb] ;W[ed]CR[ed] ;B[de]CR[de] ;W[fb]CR[fb] ;B[bf]CR[bf])) (;B[ce]CR[ce] ;W[bd]CR[bd] ;B[ec]CR[ec] ;W[db]CR[db] ;B[bc]CR[bc] ;W[de]CR[de] ;B[ed]CR[ed] ;W[be]CR[be] ;B[eb]CR[eb]C[Scribe [-\]: corner is big ]))) (;B[ce]CR[ce]C[Scribe [-\]: calm move agui [7k?\]: no Scribe [-\]: works with the fourth line stones below SitaRam [1k?\]: no idea seidelin [9k\]: b15 reed338 [?\]: makes sense ] ;W[cc]CR[cc] (;B[de]CR[de] ;W[dc]CR[dc]C[rayen [6k\]: seems good for both Boudje100 [5k\]: H16 SitaRam [1k?\]: enefficiant terry99 [23k\]: F10 SitaRam [1k?\]: good for w tablescrap [7k?\]: good for b ]) (;B[dc]CR[dc] ;W[be]CR[be] ;B[bf]CR[bf] (;W[cf]CR[cf] ;B[de]CR[de] ;W[bg]CR[bg] ;B[bd]CR[bd] ;W[af]CR[af] ;B[bc]CR[bc]LB[fc:A][fe:B]C[wingnut [-\]: B take corner rayen [6k\]: good for w imo Dita [5k\]: ok for black etl3: good for black agui [7k?\]: good for black SitaRam [1k?\]: good for w Scribe [-\]: black takes the corner, white gets ponnuki on outside in the middle of the black moyo tablescrap [7k?\]: great for b quatschi [11k\]: good for w ljl [14k\]: black Ordiac [9k\]: usually joseki etl3: Black has stone on D10, makes it good for black LPDavid [16k\]: I like black agui [7k?\]: because of the stone at F15 troll [2k\]: hihi binky [13k\]: joseki? kimba [7k\]: equal reed338 [?\]: black uwinmenow [?\]: i think black... RocheL [-\]: b bigfish [?\]: black GrandYan [6k?\]: Seems terrible for B... mallow [-\]: black's moyo lies in rubble, so globally white, I think ouigkmy [18k\]: black jjermann [18k\]: the moyo is reduced bigfish [?\]: wite needs another move SitaRam [1k?\]: hm Dita [5k\]: D10 powa! Scribe [-\]: very good for black ! Ordiac [9k\]: not w c18 ? Rafghost2 [29k?\]: black h17 ] (;W[]LB[fc:A][fe:B]TR[dj]C[Scribe [-\]: we must learn to ignore color switch ;) Scribe [-\]: d10 makes the situation even worse for white wingnut [-\]: ok Dita [5k\]: what a relief I said black was ok :P agui [7k?\]: ok SitaRam [1k?\]: no Cyarra [18k?\]: no etl3: nope xDarigaaz [7k?\]: clear Dita [5k\]: no terry99 [22k\]: b on g15 ] ;B[qc]CR[qc] ;W[pc]CR[pc] ;B[qd]CR[qd] ;W[qe]CR[qe] ;B[re]CR[re] ;W[rf]CR[rf] ;B[qf]CR[qf] ;W[pe]CR[pe] ;B[rg]CR[rg] ;W[rd]CR[rd]C[Dita [5k\]: makes us stronger ] ;B[sf]CR[sf]C[bigfish [?\]: yes ouigkmy [18k\]: yes wingnut [-\]: clear bigfish [?\]: no SitaRam [1k?\]: its clear Dita [5k\]: not at all ] ;W[rc]CR[rc]C[Scribe [-\]: top right is joseki binky [13k\]: w has lots of ajino Scribe [-\]: o17 for o15 is very bad exchange for black ] (;B[nc]CR[nc]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: too close ] ;W[ne]LB[nc:A][ne:B]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: no Scribe [-\]: white stone at f17 has gone to waste ] ;B[pf]CR[pf] ;W[of]CR[of] ;B[og]CR[og] ;W[ng]CR[ng]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: ah ] ;B[oh]CR[oh]) (;B[pf]CR[pf]C[agui [7k?\]: no ouigkmy [18k\]: no etl3: no. Boudje100 [5k\]: nooo ] ;W[of]CR[of] ;B[og]CR[og] ;W[nf]CR[nf]C[Scribe [-\]: joseki ])) (;W[hd]CR[hd]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: dangerous agui [7k?\]: C12 ] ;B[ch]CR[ch]C[rayen [6k\]: playing with fire :) Scribe [-\]: white must make base for the four stones on teh left first SitaRam [1k?\]: hihi ] ;W[dg]TR[af][cf][bg][dg][fg]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: killa on the road agui [7k?\]: F13 etl3: B12? ouigkmy [18k\]: e12? binky [13k\]: B12 SitaRam [1k?\]: f13 Scribe [-\]: the four on the left are weak ] (;B[fg]LB[fg:A]TR[fc][hd][be][af][cf][bg][dg]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: e12 tablescrap [7k?\]: f12 Rafghost2 [29k?\]: e13 is better I thibk wingnut [-\]: C14 Dita [5k\]: B13 tablescrap [7k?\]: left weak agui [7k?\]: the left one Scribe [-\]: which white stones are weak ? SitaRam [1k?\]: left quasigoose [-\]: W is escaping into B's moyo ][SitaRam [1k?\]: e12 tablescrap [7k?\]: f12 Rafghost2 [29k?\]: e13 is better I thibk ] ;W[dh]CR[dh] ;B[ci]CR[ci]C[Scribe [-\]: attack the weak stones, not the stronger two stones on the top ] ;W[fh]CR[fh] (;B[gh]CR[gh] ;W[fi]CR[fi]C[RocheL [-\]: not me plz spare my life jjermann [18k\]: w ] ;B[hg]CR[hg] ;W[fk]CR[fk]LB[eb:A]C[wingnut [-\]: W etl3: black's moyo is gone.. etl3: White SitaRam [1k?\]: good for w binky [13k\]: w ] ;B[jc]CR[jc] (;W[eb]CR[eb] ;B[db]CR[db] ;W[ic]CR[ic]C[Scribe [-\]: e18 is sente for whtie ]) (;W[ie]CR[ie]LB[gf:A]C[quasigoose [-\]: B C11 is weak now Scribe [-\]: hard to attack the white stones on top ])) (;B[fj]CR[fj] ;W[gh]CR[gh] ;B[he]CR[he] ;W[id]CR[id] ;B[ie]CR[ie] ;W[jd]CR[jd] ;B[gd]CR[gd] ;W[gc]CR[gc] ;B[je]CR[je] (;W[kd]CR[kd] ;B[ei]CR[ei] ;W[eh]CR[eh] ;B[hi]CR[hi]C[murky: music in the hear ]) (;W[hi]CR[hi] ;B[kd]CR[kd] ;W[kc]CR[kc] ;B[lc]CR[lc]))) (;B[bh]CR[bh]C[Dita [5k\]: E12 ] ;W[fg]CR[fg] ;B[he]CR[he] ;W[id]CR[id]C[Dita [5k\]: oh :) ] ;B[ie]CR[ie]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: ah Scribe [-\]: Mingjiu's path etl3: My point, yay. ] ;W[jd]CR[jd] ;B[gd]CR[gd] ;W[gc]CR[gc] ;B[eh]CR[eh] ;W[eg]CR[eg] ;B[gh]CR[gh]C[agui [7k?\]: Very nice !! rayen [6k\]: black is happy :) Dita [5k\]: O_O ])) (;W[bj]CR[bj])) (;W[db]CR[db] (;B[eb]CR[eb] ;W[de]CR[de] ;B[cf]CR[cf]C[Scribe [-\]: game over ] (;W[ed]CR[ed]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: over SitaRam [1k?\]: a new game ]) (;W[ec]CR[ec]C[Rafghost2 [29k?\]: b16? ])) (;B[de]CR[de] ;W[eb]CR[eb]C[bigfish [?\]: honey first Scribe [-\]: good for black RocheL [-\]: ^^^ ]) (;B[bd]CR[bd] ;W[de]CR[de]))))))) (;B[cq]CR[cq] ;W[bq]CR[bq] ;B[br]CR[br] ;W[ar]CR[ar] ;B[cs]CR[cs]C[Scribe [-\]: Homework ! ] ;W[ap]CR[ap] ;B[bp]CR[bp] ;W[aq]CR[aq] ;B[cp]CR[cp] ;W[bo]CR[bo]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: its homework time ] ;B[co]CR[co] ;W[bn]CR[bn] ;B[cn]CR[cn] ;W[bm]CR[bm] ;B[cm]CR[cm] ;W[cl]CR[cl] ;B[dq]CR[dq] ;W[dl]CR[dl] ;B[eq]CR[eq] ;W[dm]CR[dm] ;B[fr]CR[fr] ;W[en]CR[en] ;B[] ;W[ep]CR[ep] (;AB[fp]) (;B[sa]CR[sa] ;W[fp]CR[fp] ;B[sb]CR[sb] ;W[fq]CR[fq] ;B[sc]CR[sc] ;W[gr]CR[gr] ;B[ra]CR[ra] ;W[hr]CR[hr]LB[ao:A]C[Scribe [-\]: White to play bigfish [?\]: ko timne SitaRam [1k?\]: ko etl3: Black is dead mallow [-\]: black is dead bigfish [?\]: d2 SitaRam [1k?\]: i agree " its ko time" terry99 [22k\]: not sure mallow [-\]: D2 kills, A3 becomes only one gote eye rayen [6k\]: blacks dead quasigoose [-\]: after W A5 B can make ko of it, no? GrandYan [6k?\]: Ko for life...and death. Kerrick [15k?\]: dead kimba [7k\]: ko cdub [?\]: ko? bigfish [?\]: KO quasigoose [-\]: ah rayen [6k\]: hm binky [13k\]: b dead rayen [6k\]: ko quasigoose [-\]: maybe double ko bigfish [?\]: bye ] ;B[rb]CR[rb]C[rayen [6k\]: I did .. but is ko :P kouchi [2k\]: w d2 to start binky [13k\]: i did etl3: mallow's sequence is correct... Pasukaru [8k\]: dead SitaRam [1k?\]: who is the killa? bigfish [?\]: I know now SitaRam [1k?\]: d2 etl3: D2 bigfish [?\]: F2 mallow [-\]: D2 ] (;W[ao]CR[ao]C[kouchi [2k\]: dead. d2 ] ;B[dr]CR[dr]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: ko ] (;W[es]CR[es] ;B[fs]CR[fs]C[Scribe [-\]: ko ] ;W[bs]CR[bs]) (;W[fs]CR[fs] ;B[es]CR[es])) (;W[er]CR[er] ;B[dr]CR[dr] ;W[fs]CR[fs] ;B[ao]CR[ao] ;W[an]CR[an]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: ko ] ;B[as]CR[as]) (;W[fs]CR[fs] ;B[ao]CR[ao] ;W[an]CR[an]C[bigfish [?\]: ko mallow [-\]: D2 A5 E2 A1 A3 ] ;B[as]CR[as]C[bigfish [?\]: ko bigfish [?\]: ko SitaRam [1k?\]: its ko time ]) (;W[dr]CR[dr] (;B[ao]CR[ao]C[rayen [6k\]: still ko Dita [5k\]: B1 becomes false eyes and A3 = only one eyes if it dies mallow [-\]: E2 now etl3: now E2 ] (;W[an]CR[an] ;B[as]CR[as]) (;W[er]LB[er:A]TR[ap][aq][bq][ar]C[wingnut [-\]: lol rayen [6k\]: LOL SitaRam [1k?\]: only one eye rayen [6k\]: haha of course bigfish [?\]: yes SitaRam [1k?\]: nop ] (;B[as]CR[as]C[quasigoose [-\]: B is dead in double ko imo ] ;W[aq]CR[aq]C[Scribe [-\]: e2 is the key move ] (;B[ap]CR[ap] ;W[cr]CR[cr]) (;B[cr]CR[cr]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: ;-) ] ;W[ap]CR[ap]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: miai Dita [5k\]: cool SitaRam [1k?\]: yes rayen [6k\]: yes etl3: yep wingnut [-\]: yup binky [13k\]: yes Bodo212 [15k\]: tricky cdub [?\]: <- dead wrong quatschi [11k\]: fine SitaRam [1k?\]: nice problem ])) (;B[rc]CR[rc]) (;B[cr]CR[cr]C[bigfish [?\]: a1 etl3: A1 Scribe [-\]: correct move is a1 after black c2 ] (;W[as]CR[as]C[cdub [?\]: what if black doesn't take the stones? SitaRam [1k?\]: give four and take all Dita [5k\]: :) SitaRam [1k?\]: yes cdub [?\]: black plays at e2 ] ;B[bs]CR[bs] ;W[aq]CR[aq]) (;W[an]CR[an]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: i was too slow ] ;B[as]CR[as]C[Scribe [-\]: back to ko ])))) (;B[er]CR[er]C[etl3: fix ko mallow [-\]: A5 SitaRam [1k?\]: a5 etl3: A5 kimba [7k\]: a5 binky [13k\]: a5 SuzzFish [9k?\]: D1 ] (;W[ao]CR[ao]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: one eye ]) (;W[bk]CR[bk]C[SuzzFish [9k?\]: oo Dita [5k\]: :) reed338 [?\]: ok etl3: Next game Dita [5k\]: no question kimba [7k\]: ok SuzzFish [9k?\]: ok SitaRam [1k?\]: next please ]))))) (;B[pd]CR[pd]C[murky: more the better ] (;W[dp]CR[dp] ;B[pq]CR[pq] ;W[dd]CR[dd] ;B[fc]CR[fc] ;W[cf]CR[cf] ;B[jd]CR[jd] ;W[po]CR[po] ;B[qm]CR[qm] ;W[on]CR[on] ;B[np]CR[np]C[etl3: R3 SitaRam [1k?\]: r3 SitaRam [1k?\]: the moyo is gone Scribe [-\]: black has three stones on the top seeking to make a moyo, but white has flattened it etl3: black plays R4? ] (;W[qq]CR[qq]C[Kerrick [15k?\]: r3 ] (;B[qr]CR[qr] ;W[qp]CR[qp]C[DrGoPlayer [2k?\]: s5 ] ;B[or]CR[or]C[Scribe [-\]: joseki ] ;W[pl]CR[pl]TR[fc][jd][pd]C[Scribe [-\]: also joseki RocheL [-\]: w Bodo212 [15k\]: w etl3: black playmore [1d\]: white Grimley [4k\]: w quatschi [11k\]: b SitaRam [1k?\]: w binky [13k\]: b Rafghost2 [29k?\]: w Scribe [-\]: Mingjiu likes white better binky [13k\]: R7 aji SitaRam [1k?\]: inefficiant seidelin [9k\]: no moyo ]) (;B[qp]CR[qp]C[Kerrick [15k?\]: cut SitaRam [1k?\]: yes etl3: cross cut quatschi [11k\]: no ] ;W[pp]CR[pp]C[agui [7k?\]: no Grimley [4k\]: r5 ] ;B[qo]CR[qo]C[Kerrick [15k?\]: i dont remember the rest :-) GrandYan [6k?\]: R5 Rafghost2 [29k?\]: r5 SitaRam [1k?\]: r5 agui [7k?\]: P3 etl3: P3 ] ;W[oq]CR[oq] ;B[pr]CR[pr]C[Rafghost2 [29k?\]: r6 playmore [1d\]: O3 hansb [5k?\]: O3 agui [7k?\]: O3 SuzzFish [9k?\]: oo ] (;W[nq]CR[nq]C[Scribe [-\]: no good continuation for white unless white plays at o2 adHominem [13k?\]: (29k) etl3: the problem isn't to kill black... GrandYan [6k?\]: It was never about killing :) ] (;B[qr]CR[qr] (;W[mp]CR[mp]C[etl3: good shape SuzzFish [9k?\]: ^-^ yea better shape Rafghost2 [29k?\]: if white lose the r3 stone black will live,right? ]) (;W[rq]CR[rq] (;B[rr]CR[rr] ;W[qn]CR[qn] ;B[rn]CR[rn] ;W[pm]CR[pm]C[Scribe [-\]: ko fight is good fro whtie ]) (;B[rp]CR[rp] ;W[rr]CR[rr] ;B[rs]CR[rs] ;W[or]CR[or]))) (;B[rq]CR[rq]C[etl3: this is a joseki question ] ;W[or]CR[or])) (;W[op]CR[op] ;B[qr]CR[qr]C[SuzzFish [9k?\]: y not p2?? ]))) (;W[pl]CR[pl]C[etl3: R4 ] (;B[qk]CR[qk]TR[fc][jd][pd]C[Scribe [-\]: r4 better then r9 for black in this situation Scribe [-\]: black must make the top three stones useful SitaRam [1k?\]: no etl3: no binky [13k\]: no kerem74 [19k\]: ok etl3: I have one SitaRam [1k?\]: next rayen [6k\]: next quatschi [11k\]: next game Rafghost2 [29k?\]: next agui [7k?\]: yes murky: next game terry99 [22k\]: last etl3: haha ok RocheL [-\]: ^^ ] (;W[qq]CR[qq] (;B[qr]CR[qr] ;W[qp]CR[qp] ;B[or]CR[or] ;W[ql]CR[ql] ;B[rl]CR[rl] ;W[pm]TR[fc][jd][pd][pl][ql][pm]C[Scribe [-\]: joseki Scribe [-\]: good for white Scribe [-\]: black has three stones on the top seeking to make a moyo, but white has flattened it ]) (;B[qp]CR[qp] ;W[pp]CR[pp]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: strong like a panda bear ] ;B[qo]CR[qo] ;W[oq]CR[oq] ;B[pr]CR[pr] ;W[nq]CR[nq]LB[rq:A] ;B[rq]CR[rq] ;W[mp]CR[mp]LB[qk:B][pl:A][pm:C]C[hansb [5k?\]: Q8 is funny Dita [5k\]: black stones feel so low Scribe [-\]: q8 not funny Scribe [-\]: think kosumi joseki seidelin [9k\]: maybe he just like it SitaRam [1k?\]: b is flat ] ;B[pm]CR[pm] ;W[om]CR[om] ;B[ol]CR[ol]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: cut and thrust ])) (;W[pj]CR[pj] ;B[qj]CR[qj] ;W[pi]CR[pi] ;B[qi]CR[qi] ;W[ph]CR[ph]C[Rafghost2 [29k?\]: b wingnut [-\]: W Scribe [-\]: good for white ] ;B[pk]CR[pk] ;W[ok]CR[ok] (;B[ql]CR[ql]C[Scribe [-\]: invasion at r17 remains and moyo is gone ]) (;B[pm]CR[pm] ;W[om]CR[om] ;B[ql]CR[ql]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: the moyo is gone with the wind Grimley [4k\]: to loose the game terry99 [22k\]: l3 SitaRam [1k?\]: hihi Rafghost2 [29k?\]: o8 etl3: to settle and take alot of territory? SitaRam [1k?\]: not easy plan terry99 [22k\]: n17 Rafghost2 [29k?\]: ko in o8 wingnut [-\]: B's plan is to destroy his moyo? DeSangre [12k\]: :) SitaRam [1k?\]: o10 ] (;W[ol]CR[ol]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: hm ] ;B[qo]CR[qo]C[etl3: cut? ] (;W[qp]CR[qp]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: q4 ] ;B[pp]CR[pp] (;W[ro]CR[ro] ;B[qn]CR[qn] ;W[qq]CR[qq] ;B[pr]CR[pr]C[RocheL [-\]: game over? SitaRam [1k?\]: hihi etl3: dead playmore [1d\]: ko hansb [5k?\]: ko Ringelpiez [10k\]: dead SitaRam [1k?\]: ko quasigoose [-\]: dead binky [13k\]: dead etl3: dead Quinn [9k\]: unconditionally alive =D terry99 [22k\]: k-o ] ;W[qr]CR[qr]C[wingnut [-\]: as a door nail SitaRam [1k?\]: dead terry99 [22k\]: knock out etl3: Hane R1 ] (;B[qs]CR[qs] ;W[rs]CR[rs]C[etl3: T2 quasigoose [-\]: s6 ]) (;B[rn]CR[rn]C[quasigoose [-\]: first evergreen [14k?\]: b S2 instead hansb [5k?\]: T5 binky [13k\]: S2 SitaRam [1k?\]: t5 wingnut [-\]: S4 or T4 xmintmint [15k\]: s2 seidelin [9k\]: s4 etl3: T5 rayen [6k\]: S3 SuzzFish [9k?\]: T2? Scribe [-\]: ko Fenrir [30k?\]: ぷ~~~~ Dita [5k\]: yes kerem74 [19k\]: yes etl3: yes ] (;W[rq]CR[rq]) (;W[rp]CR[rp]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: dead ] ;B[rr]CR[rr] ;W[rs]CR[rs] ;B[sr]CR[sr]C[binky [13k\]: T2 mallow [-\]: T5 instead mallow [-\]: ? Scribe [-\]: 大猪嘴 ]) (;W[sp]CR[sp]C[quasigoose [-\]: its J+1 etl3: That's dead shape binky [13k\]: w T2 SitaRam [1k?\]: yes ] ;B[qs]CR[qs]C[Rafghost2 [29k?\]: t6 ] ;W[rs]CR[rs] ;B[sr]CR[sr]C[binky [13k\]: w T2 hansb [5k?\]: large pig snout ]) (;W[so]CR[so] ;B[qs]CR[qs] ;W[rs]CR[rs] ;B[sr]CR[sr] ;W[sq]CR[sq] ;B[rq]CR[rq] ;W[rp]CR[rp] ;B[sp]CR[sp]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: yes ]))) (;W[qn]CR[qn] ;B[ro]CR[ro] ;W[op]CR[op]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: bad ] ;B[oq]CR[oq] ;W[oo]CR[oo]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: over ] ;B[rp]CR[rp]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: b wins etl3: horrible Rafghost2 [29k?\]: over Scribe [-\]: this is called helping black terry99 [22k\]: l3 ])) (;W[pp]CR[pp] ;B[qp]CR[qp] ;W[oq]CR[oq]C[etl3: P3 SitaRam [1k?\]: better Quinn [9k\]: this one etl3: white stays calm ] (;B[op]CR[op]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: last terry99 [22k\]: r3 etl3: O3 rayen [6k\]: O3 hansb [5k?\]: R3 SitaRam [1k?\]: p2 Kennabee [5k\]: R3 Rafghost2 [29k?\]: r3 ] ;W[nq]CR[nq]C[kerem74 [19k\]: r3 ] (;B[mq]CR[mq] ;W[pr]CR[pr]C[Scribe [-\]: o3 is critical move ] ;B[qq]CR[qq] ;W[mr]CR[mr] ;B[lq]CR[lq]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: good for w rayen [6k\]: good for w etl3: Ladder is broken murky: works for W ] ;W[mp]CR[mp]TR[cf]C[kerem74 [19k\]: w SitaRam [1k?\]: b has a problem ] (;B[mo]CR[mo] ;W[lp]CR[lp]) (;B[no]CR[no] ;W[mo]CR[mo] ;B[nn]CR[nn] ;W[mn]CR[mn] ;B[nm]CR[nm] (;W[mm]CR[mm]) (;W[ml]CR[ml]C[Scribe [-\]: good enough, kills black ]))) (;B[mp]CR[mp] ;W[qq]CR[qq] ;B[pr]CR[pr] ;W[qr]CR[qr])) (;B[pr]CR[pr]C[etl3: O3 ]))) (;W[qq]CR[qq]C[Rafghost2 [29k?\]: r6 ] (;B[pp]CR[pp] ;W[qp]CR[qp]C[etl3: White's wall is ginormous... ] ;B[qo]CR[qo]) (;B[qp]CR[qp] ;W[pp]CR[pp] ;B[qo]CR[qo] ;W[oq]CR[oq] ;B[pr]CR[pr] ;W[nq]CR[nq] ;B[qr]CR[qr] ;W[mp]CR[mp]TR[ph][pi][qi][pj][qj][ok][qk][pl][ql]C[Scribe [-\]: good for white SitaRam [1k?\]: hui Quinn [9k\]: i like b :D SitaRam [1k?\]: i take w ])) (;W[qp]CR[qp] (;B[qq]CR[qq]) (;B[ol]CR[ol]C[Scribe [-\]: good enought for white ] ;W[nl]CR[nl] (;B[qq]CR[qq] ;W[qh]CR[qh]) (;B[qg]CR[qg] ;W[qq]CR[qq]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: ah ])))))) (;B[qp]CR[qp]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: i like this for b Kerrick [15k?\]: that's what i thought ] (;W[qo]CR[qo]C[etl3: Yay. Rafghost2 [29k?\]: black ] (;B[qk]CR[qk]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: r10 ] ;W[pj]CR[pj] ;B[qj]CR[qj] ;W[pi]CR[pi]C[Scribe [-\]: will need many stones on thrid line ] ;B[qi]CR[qi] ;W[ph]CR[ph] ;B[qh]CR[qh] ;W[pg]CR[pg]C[Scribe [-\]: heavy move for black to play r9 ]) (;B[pj]CR[pj]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: r10 ] ;W[ql]CR[ql] (;B[rj]CR[rj]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: ah Scribe [-\]: treat r7 as light ]) (;B[lp]CR[lp]) (;B[kq]CR[kq]LB[rj:A]C[terry99 [22k\]: l3 big ]))) (;W[ql]CR[ql] ;B[pm]CR[pm] ;W[om]CR[om] ;B[rn]CR[rn] ;W[nk]CR[nk]C[Scribe [-\]: also joseki seidelin [9k\]: joseki? etl3: I think this is better for black Grimley [4k\]: even ])))) (;W[pp]CR[pp] ;B[dc]CR[dc] ;W[ce]CR[ce] ;B[cp]CR[cp] ;W[eq]CR[eq] ;B[gp]CR[gp]LB[eo:A][fo:B][cq:D][gq:C]C[Rafghost2 [29k?\]: e5 RocheL [-\]: joseki addict? etl3: E5? terry99 [22k\]: h4 fantomas27 [19k\]: e5? kerem74 [19k\]: e5 Kerrick [15k?\]: 1 space jump hansb [5k?\]: why not? murky: Lee Chongho likes this SitaRam [1k?\]: head out hansb [5k?\]: G3? etl3: Oh... etl3: if you like territory... or if you have a stone at D10? etl3: White Rafghost2 [29k?\]: w etl3: Ah. No pincer,. ][Rafghost2 [29k?\]: e5 RocheL [-\]: joseki addict? etl3: E5? terry99 [22k\]: h4 fantomas27 [19k\]: e5? kerem74 [19k\]: e5 Kerrick [15k?\]: 1 space jump hansb [5k?\]: why not? murky: Lee Chongho likes this SitaRam [1k?\]: head out ] (;W[eo]CR[eo]) (;W[dj]LB[cm:B][gp:A]TR[dj]C[Kerrick [15k?\]: for w then w can play below the stones etl3: then you can play C3 etl3: or G3 SitaRam [1k?\]: agree ljl [14k\]: w4 stones b3, some one is cheating! ]) (;W[fo]CR[fo] ;B[dn]CR[dn] ;W[cq]CR[cq] ;B[dp]CR[dp] ;W[dq]CR[dq]LB[ep:B][fp:A]C[Scribe [-\]: joseki etl3: A hansb [5k?\]: F4 GrandYan [6k?\]: A playmore [1d\]: F4 hansb [5k?\]: =A agui [7k?\]: b SitaRam [1k?\]: a kerem74 [19k\]: a Kerrick [15k?\]: a ] (;B[ep]CR[ep]C[rayen [6k\]: a ] ;W[fp]CR[fp] ;B[fq]CR[fq] ;W[gq]CR[gq] ;B[fr]CR[fr] ;W[gr]CR[gr]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: birthday gift Scribe [-\]: black helped white ! ]) (;B[fp]CR[fp] ;W[ep]CR[ep] ;B[eo]CR[eo] ;W[fn]CR[fn]C[GrandYan [6k?\]: F2 GrandYan [6k?\]: Saw it in a game :) ] (;B[fr]CR[fr] ;W[fq]CR[fq] ;B[gq]CR[gq] ;W[er]CR[er] ;B[dl]CR[dl] ;W[im]CR[im]TR[dl][dn][bq] (;B[kq]CR[kq]LB[bq:B][gr:A]C[Scribe [-\]: joseki Scribe [-\]: playing g2 too early is good for white playmore [1d\]: isn't G2 for white sente too? rayen [6k\]: I like this one ] ;W[gr]CR[gr] ;B[hr]CR[hr] ;W[fs]CR[fs]LB[hq:A]C[terry99 [22k\]: b4? Scribe [-\]: 先中后 ] (;B[] ;W[hq]CR[hq] ;B[hp]CR[hp] ;W[iq]CR[iq] ;B[ip]CR[ip]) (;B[ip]CR[ip]C[Scribe [-\]: black's shape improved ])) (;B[jp]CR[jp]) (;B[gr]CR[gr] ;W[bp]CR[bp] ;B[bo]CR[bo] ;W[bq]CR[bq]C[terry99 [22k\]: atari ])) (;B[bq]CR[bq]C[ljl [14k\]: d8? playmore [1d\]: pro game? SitaRam [1k?\]: ah etl3: oh? ] ;W[br]CR[br] ;B[bp]CR[bp]C[Scribe [-\]: keep g2 in reserve for both players ] ;W[gr]CR[gr]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: bad for b rayen [6k\]: G4 weak Kerrick [15k?\]: b likes joging agui [7k?\]: black is floating now ] (;B[hr]CR[hr]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: ah ] (;W[fr]CR[fr] ;B[hq]CR[hq]C[bigfish [?\]: G34 GrandYan [6k?\]: Seems fine... bigfish [?\]: G3 ] ;W[fl]CR[fl]C[Scribe [-\]: Mingjiu likes this fro black, white still needs to fix the corner ] ;B[ar]CR[ar]C[terry99 [22k\]: d8 ] ;W[bs]CR[bs]C[etl3: dead SitaRam [1k?\]: ko murky: homework terry99 [22k\]: d1 etl3: oh, wait... ko... bigfish [?\]: ko etl3: D2 ko.. Grimley [4k\]: start at d2 ] (;B[ds]CR[ds]C[Scribe [-\]: d1 is good for White ! ] ;W[dr]CR[dr] ;B[es]CR[es] ;W[cs]CR[cs]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: so much homework ] ;B[as]CR[as]C[murky: no ]) (;B[dr]CR[dr] (;W[cr]CR[cr] ;B[ds]CR[ds]) (;W[ds]CR[ds] ;B[es]CR[es]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: d1 ] ;W[cr]CR[cr]))) (;W[gq]CR[gq]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: cut and thrust ] ;B[hq]CR[hq] ;W[hp]CR[hp]C[playmore [1d\]: b troubles ])) (;B[hq]CR[hq] ;W[hr]CR[hr] ;B[jq]CR[jq] ;W[fl]CR[fl] ;B[dl]CR[dl] ;W[in]CR[in]LB[bq:A]C[Scribe [-\]: black is weak kerem74 [19k\]: weak rayen [6k\]: the group is doing nothing SitaRam [1k?\]: painfull prise for b SitaRam [1k?\]: yes ouigkmy [17k\]: yes agui [7k?\]: yes thanks terry99 [22k\]: ok ])) (;B[dl]CR[dl]))))) (;B[sb]CR[sb] ;W[rc]CR[rc] ;B[rb]CR[rb] ;W[rd]CR[rd]C[rayen [6k\]: :) ] ;B[qc]CR[qc] ;W[qd]CR[qd] ;B[pb]CR[pb] ;W[pd]CR[pd] ;B[ra]CR[ra] ;W[oc]CR[oc] ;B[aa]CR[aa]C[Scribe [-\]: p19 no longer kills due to liberty at p18 ] (;W[ob]CR[ob]LB[oa:D][pa:C][qb:B][pc:A]C[agui [7k?\]: yes bigfish [?\]: 4 ways to kill SitaRam [1k?\]: 3 bigfish [?\]: 4 terry99 [22k\]: 0 SitaRam [1k?\]: 4 Quinn [9k\]: 4 Grimley [4k\]: 4 SitaRam [1k?\]: sorry etl3: I see 4. ]) (;W[nb]CR[nb] ;B[ab]CR[ab] ;W[mc]CR[mc]C[etl3: 3 rayen [6k\]: 3 Grimley [4k\]: 3 bigfish [?\]: 3 SitaRam [1k?\]: 5 Quinn [9k\]: still 4 ] ;B[ac]CR[ac] (;W[qb]CR[qb]C[binky [13k\]: b is alive? ]) (;W[pc]CR[pc]) (;W[pa]CR[pa]) (;W[oa]CR[oa] ;B[pa]CR[pa] ;W[qb]CR[qb]C[bigfish [?\]: P17 ] ;B[pc]CR[pc]C[bigfish [?\]: Q17 rayen [6k\]: 3 :) ])) (;W[nc]CR[nc] ;B[ab]CR[ab] ;W[mb]CR[mb] ;B[ba]CR[ba] ;W[lc]CR[lc]C[rayen [6k\]: :P etl3: 3 ljl [14k\]: 3 bigfish [?\]: 2 rayen [6k\]: 3 agui [7k?\]: 3 bigfish [?\]: 1 is ko Kennabee [5k\]: 2 terry99 [22k\]: 4 rayen [6k\]: 2 etl3: 2.. Grimley [4k\]: 2 SitaRam [1k?\]: 2 kills SitaRam [1k?\]: one is ko ] ;B[bb]CR[bb] (;W[qb]CR[qb]) (;W[pc]CR[pc]) (;W[pa]CR[pa] ;B[ob]CR[ob] ;W[pc]CR[pc] ;B[qa]CR[qa]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: yes Rafghost2 [29k?\]: yes Scribe [-\]: only two now. q18 no longer works due to extra space on top SitaRam [1k?\]: yes ljl [14k\]: that does not kill? Scribe [-\]: q18 creates ko agui [7k?\]: yes ] (;W[nb]CR[nb]) (;W[rs]CR[rs]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: ko time ] ;B[qr]CR[qr] ;W[rr]CR[rr] ;B[pr]CR[pr] ;W[qq]CR[qq] ;B[pq]CR[pq] ;W[qp]CR[qp] ;B[pp]CR[pp] ;W[ca]CR[ca] ;B[qo]CR[qo] ;W[ac]CR[ac] ;B[qn]CR[qn] ;W[ro]CR[ro] (;B[cc]CR[cc]) (;B[rm]CR[rm] ;W[bc]CR[bc] ;B[ql]CR[ql]C[etl3: dead Rafghost2 [29k?\]: s4 Quinn [9k\]: atari in upper left! terry99 [22k\]: t3 ] ;W[bs]CR[bs]C[etl3: T2! ] ;B[cr]CR[cr] ;W[br]CR[br] ;B[dr]CR[dr] ;W[cq]CR[cq]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: p19 ] ;B[dq]CR[dq] ;W[cp]CR[cp] ;B[dp]CR[dp] ;W[da]CR[da] ;B[co]CR[co] ;W[db]CR[db] ;B[cn]CR[cn] ;W[ea]CR[ea] ;B[cl]CR[cl] ;W[eb]CR[eb] ;B[bm]CR[bm]LB[fn:B][nn:A]C[Scribe [-\]: Black to play in lower right . White to play in lower left mofmog [20k?\]: oh hah terry99 [22k\]: l3 rayen [6k\]: A dead terry99 [22k\]: yeah kerem74 [19k\]: yes kerem74 [19k\]: t5 etl3: Dead! rayen [6k\]: dead agui [7k?\]: dead etl3: T2 rayen [6k\]: T2 kills rayen [6k\]: 2 agui [7k?\]: T5 rayen [6k\]: 2 ways from t2 ljl [14k\]: t3 etl3: 1 way from T2 ] ;W[fa]CR[fa]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: one eye Grimley [4k\]: t4 after t3 is ko etl3: White B4? quasigoose [-\]: A4 kerem74 [19k\]: a3 etl3: B4? agui [7k?\]: B4 Grimley [4k\]: white b4 etl3: ko SitaRam [1k?\]: dead agui [7k?\]: alive quasigoose [-\]: sry A4 dont work selvina [16k?\]: akive Scribe [-\]: a4 is shape move but not applicable here Quinn [9k\]: w dies in gote? :D etl3: Haha, I think it's a ko SitaRam [1k?\]: w is dead etl3: I think it's ko.. ] (;B[sr]CR[sr] ;W[sq]CR[sq]C[etl3: S4? hansb [5k?\]: S4 SitaRam [1k?\]: dead ] ;B[rp]CR[rp] ;W[rq]CR[rq]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: s4 ] ;B[so]CR[so]C[kerem74 [19k\]: s4 ]) (;B[so]CR[so] (;W[rp]CR[rp]) (;W[sp]CR[sp] ;B[sr]CR[sr] ;W[sn]CR[sn]C[rayen [6k\]: you can also T4 after T3 :) ])) (;B[fb]CR[fb]C[Rafghost2 [29k?\]: w dead jjermann [18k\]: lol ] (;W[bo]CR[bo]C[etl3: NO SitaRam [1k?\]: no selvina [16k?\]: no ljl [14k\]: no agui [7k?\]: no GrandYan [6k?\]: No etl3: we covered it Rafghost2 [29k?\]: no hansb [5k?\]: sure ]) (;W[aq]CR[aq]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: dead ] ;B[bp]CR[bp]C[etl3: no ]) (;W[ap]CR[ap] ;B[bp]CR[bp] ;W[bq]CR[bq]C[ljl [14k\]: b4 ] ;B[bo]CR[bo]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: dead etl3: B4 is only move ]) (;W[bp]CR[bp]LB[gn:B][mn:A]C[Grimley [4k\]: alive Quinn [9k\]: me Quinn [9k\]: a4? agui [7k?\]: me rayen [6k\]: A3 etl3: A4 start a ko Rafghost2 [29k?\]: ko kerem74 [19k\]: t2 SitaRam [1k?\]: yes kerem74 [19k\]: yeah ] (;B[aq]CR[aq]C[fantomas27 [19k\]: a4 ] ;W[ar]CR[ar] ;B[ap]CR[ap]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: dead ] (;W[ao]CR[ao] ;B[bo]CR[bo]) (;W[bo]CR[bo]C[etl3: one too far. SitaRam [1k?\]: alive Scribe [-\]: capture three to create an eye rayen [6k\]: alive ^^ Rafghost2 [29k?\]: good for w ])) (;B[ap]CR[ap] (;W[ao]CR[ao] ;B[aq]CR[aq] ;W[ar]CR[ar] ;B[bo]CR[bo]) (;W[bo]CR[bo]C[etl3: A2 ko Quinn [9k\]: a2 Quinn [9k\]: ko kerem74 [19k\]: a3 ] (;B[ar]CR[ar]C[binky [13k\]: A 3 Kokology [3k?\]: a2 ] ;W[aq]CR[aq]C[Scribe [-\]: ko ]) (;B[aq]CR[aq] ;W[ar]CR[ar]) (;B[ao]CR[ao] ;W[an]CR[an] ;B[aq]CR[aq] ;W[bn]CR[bn])))))))))) (;B[aa]CR[aa]C[GrandYan [6k?\]: Homework. Lovely. Scribe [-\]: New Homework ! ] ;W[ba]CR[ba] ;B[ab]CR[ab] ;W[bb]CR[bb]C[SitaRam [1k?\]: !!! ] ;B[ac]CR[ac] ;W[bc]CR[bc] ;B[ad]CR[ad] ;W[db]CR[db] ;B[bd]CR[bd] ;W[ec]CR[ec] ;B[cd]CR[cd] ;W[fc]CR[fc] ;B[dd]CR[dd] ;W[gb]CR[gb] ;B[gc]CR[gc] ;AB[ib][hc][jc][ed][fd]C[murky: funny shape etl3: black agui [7k?\]: black kerem74 [19k\]: w GrandYan [6k?\]: Both maybe? jjermann [18k\]: black to live *g* Rafghost2 [29k?\]: w SitaRam [1k?\]: to kill murky: B turn to attack jjermann [18k\]: sure ;) murky: thank you so much etl3: Thank you for the lecture GrandYan [6k?\]: Thank you. SitaRam [1k?\]: thx you too bplayer55 [12k\]: thank you agui [7k?\]: Thank you very much kerem74 [19k\]: thanks xDarigaaz [7k?\]: thank you ACErose [24k\]: tyhank you fantomas27 [19k\]: thx Kennabee [5k\]: Thanks ouigkmy [17k\]: thank you quasigoose [-\]: thank you SitaRam [1k?\]: thx scribe selvina [16k?\]: thanks darjeeling [?\]: Thanks for the lesson Scribe [-\]: Xiexie Mingjiu Laoshi au2 [3k\]: thank you Rafghost2 [29k?\]: thank you very much zee [10k\]: thanks to you and the ING Foundation hansili [10k\]: thank you Scribe binky [13k\]: thank you mingjiu SitaRam [1k?\]: see you xDarigaaz [7k?\]: bye Scribe [-\]: Thanks to the Ing Goe Foundation agui [7k?\]: See you darjeeling [?\]: Goodbye jjermann [18k\]: bye bplayer55 [12k\]: bye SitaRam [1k?\]: bye Kennabee [5k\]: CU GrandYan [6k?\]: See you. binky [13k\]: bye au2 [3k\]: thanks to Ing Foundation fantomas27 [19k\]: bye etl3: Bye terry99 [22k\]: thank you au2 [3k\]: thanks to Scribe murky: bye terry99 [22k\]: bye troll [2k\]: thanks Rafghost2 [29k?\]: sajonara ]))