(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50] PW[mingjiu]PB[mingjiu]WR[7p]BR[7p]DT[2006-06-18]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[agui [6k?\]: yes ] (;B[hs]CR[hs] ;W[ir]CR[ir] ;B[hr]CR[hr] (;W[hq]CR[hq]C[Hiul [14k\]: hi ] ;B[gq]CR[gq] ;W[hp]CR[hp] ;B[gp]CR[gp] ;W[go]CR[go] ;B[fr]CR[fr] ;W[gn]CR[gn] ;B[fo]CR[fo] ;W[fn]CR[fn] ;B[eo]CR[eo] ;W[fp]CR[fp]C[Mysterious [22k\]: Hello. ] ;B[dr]CR[dr] ;W[en]CR[en] ;B[dq]CR[dq] ;W[dn]CR[dn] ;B[dp]CR[dp] ;W[co]CR[co] ;B[aa]CR[aa] ;W[cr]CR[cr] ;B[ab]CR[ab] ;W[br]CR[br] ;B[ba]CR[ba] ;W[bp]CR[bp] ;B[bb]CR[bb] ;W[jq]CR[jq] ;B[ac]CR[ac] ;W[ds]CR[ds] ;B[bc]CR[bc]C[murky: Hello, Sansei IcancerI [23k?\]: 老师好 ]) (;W[iq]CR[iq] ;B[fr]CR[fr]C[xDarigaaz [7k?\]: Hi ] ;W[hp]CR[hp] ;B[gq]CR[gq] ;W[go]CR[go] ;B[gp]CR[gp] ;W[gn]CR[gn] ;B[fo]CR[fo] ;W[fn]CR[fn] ;B[eo]CR[eo] ;W[en]CR[en] ;B[dp]CR[dp] ;W[dn]CR[dn] ;B[dq]CR[dq] ;W[co]CR[co] ;B[dr]CR[dr] ;AW[io][bp][fp][br][cr][ds][is]C[tukan [14k\]: greetings agui [6k?\]: Hello Ordiac [8k\]: hi Hu [13k?\]: Good morning MingJiu, sound is fine. jjermann [19k\]: yes tablescrap [8k?\]: Hi :) Ordiac [8k\]: yep agui [6k?\]: yes xDarigaaz [7k?\]: yes ouigkmy [17k\]: yes, audio good Hiul [14k\]: yes IcancerI [23k?\]: hello Mysterious [22k\]: yes Scribe [-\]: Nihao Laoshi Scribe [-\]: Homework ! hansb [5k?\]: i did hansb [5k?\]: F1 kills Ordiac [8k\]: f1 looks like it Hiul [14k\]: i wasn't here last lesson so ... TT_TT IcancerI [23k?\]: f1 Hiul [14k\]: no i don't think f1 but i'm 14k IcancerI [23k?\]: agui [6k?\]: if dead not with F1 fonly [8k\]: e3* Mysterious [22k\]: H3 ? ] (;W[fs]CR[fs]C[agui [6k?\]: G1 hansb [5k?\]: black dies fonly [8k\]: ko Hu [13k?\]: White fries an egg. Hiul [14k\]: ko agui [6k?\]: if dead not with F1 Hiul [14k\]: ... ] (;B[gs]CR[gs] ;W[es]CR[es]C[Hiul [14k\]: f1 ] ;B[er]CR[er] ;W[cs]CR[cs]C[Hiul [14k\]: h3 Zef [25k?\]: H3 Hiul [14k\]: no fantomas27 [19k\]: F3 flush [-\]: b plays e1 instead Hiul [14k\]: ^^' agui [6k?\]: ahhh, nice ! ]) (;B[es]CR[es]C[noel [10k\]: ko is better thank live in gote? fonly [8k\]: no Hiul [14k\]: no ] ;W[er]CR[er] ;B[eq]CR[eq]C[hansb [5k?\]: ko Hu [13k?\]: H3 agui [6k?\]: connect IcancerI [23k?\]: d5 tukan [14k\]: if white connects black is alive ] ;W[hq]CR[hq]) (;B[er]CR[er] ;W[es]CR[es])) (;W[eq]CR[eq]) (;W[hq]CR[hq] ;B[es]CR[es]C[Karamfil [14k\]: ^^ Ordiac [8k\]: looka alive ]) (;W[gr]CR[gr] ;B[es]CR[es]) (;W[fq]CR[fq]C[ouigkmy [17k\]: white e1? ] ;B[es]CR[es]))) (;B[dp]CR[dp] (;W[pp]CR[pp] ;B[dd]CR[dd] ;W[pc]CR[pc] ;B[pe]CR[pe] (;W[nd]CR[nd] ;B[qc]CR[qc]C[Karamfil [14k\]: yaaaay a game ^0^ Zef [25k?\]: yes hansb [5k?\]: R18 ivanho [9k\]: R16? mallow [9k?\]: R18 MRei [?\]: r18 noel [10k\]: R18 agui [6k?\]: R18 Zef [25k?\]: R18 Chalx [6k\]: r18 etl3: 1 Pianist [?\]: P18 :) ] (;W[qb]CR[qb] ;B[qd]CR[qd] (;W[ob]CR[ob] (;B[qi]CR[qi]C[Scribe [-\]: joseki as well as r12 joseki ]) (;B[qh]CR[qh])) (;W[rb]CR[rb]C[Scribe [-\]: joseki ] ;B[qi]CR[qi]C[Karamfil [14k\]: S18 :D Scribe [-\]: joseki ])) (;W[qd]CR[qd]C[etl3: I do chrpa [6k\]: me not noel [10k\]: i don't Vanya [10k?\]: what if not S15 but R14 for black Scribe [-\]: bad move, not joseki Scribe [-\]: white must r18 ] ;B[pd]CR[pd] ;W[rc]CR[rc]C[Pianist [?\]: trick move :) Karamfil [14k\]: damn me i havent studied ootaka moku josekis Vanya [10k?\]: R18 ivanho [9k\]: R18? etl3: extend hansb [5k?\]: R18 = extend Karamfil [14k\]: extend noel [10k\]: i extend ] (;B[oc]CR[oc]) (;B[qb]CR[qb]C[Scribe [-\]: trick move Pianist [?\]: s17 bad ] (;W[oc]CR[oc]C[Ordiac [8k\]: "never give away just one stone"? etl3: R15 Vanya [10k?\]: S16 MRei [?\]: r15 Hiul [14k\]: B s16 noel [10k\]: S15 Karamfil [14k\]: r15 ;) hansb [5k?\]: R15? etl3: R15 Pianist [?\]: r15 ] (;B[rd]CR[rd] ;W[qe]CR[qe]C[etl3: R15 ] ;B[re]CR[re] ;W[qf]CR[qf] ;B[rb]CR[rb] ;W[pf]CR[pf]C[Karamfil [14k\]: hmm etl3: bad for black tukan [14k\]: haha white nice :) reed338 [?\]: looks terrible fonly [8k\]: white is happy^^ MRei [?\]: very bad for black etl3: Black R15 dantesx [24k\]: heh agui [6k?\]: for white noel [10k\]: i think white :) Karamfil [14k\]: white fcourse Scribe [-\]: black resigns by playing this way ? Karamfil [14k\]: it is obviously obvious ;D ]) (;B[qe]CR[qe] ;W[rd]CR[rd] ;B[rb]CR[rb] ;W[re]CR[re] ;B[rf]CR[rf]C[etl3: black kills white Pianist [?\]: w dies Karamfil [14k\]: ya me too :P ] ;W[rg]CR[rg]C[Hiul [14k\]: b kills w Vanya [10k?\]: black kills first fonly [8k\]: i hope black kilss white:) ] (;B[sf]CR[sf] ;W[qf]CR[qf] ;B[qg]CR[qg]C[ivanho [9k\]: :D ] ;W[pf]CR[pf]C[Pianist [?\]: T14 is wrong ]) (;B[qf]CR[qf] ;W[sf]CR[sf]TR[rc][qd][rd][re]C[Pianist [?\]: T15 Vanya [10k?\]: T15 toepk [30k?\]: T16 dantesx [24k\]: t15 defenitely agui [6k?\]: T15 etl3: Start at t15 MRei [?\]: t15 ] ;B[se]CR[se] ;W[sd]CR[sd]C[etl3: T18 Vanya [10k?\]: T18 agui [6k?\]: T18 ] ;B[sb]CR[sb] ;W[sg]CR[sg]C[Ordiac [8k\]: aha t17 ? noel [10k\]: R12 ] ;B[sc]CR[sc] ;W[se]CR[se]LB[qn:A]C[Karamfil [14k\]: hahah :D Pianist [?\]: R12 MRei [?\]: r12 Vanya [10k?\]: R12 etl3: R12 Karamfil [14k\]: R13 Scribe [-\]: allows white breaker in lower right ] (;B[qh]CR[qh] ;W[ri]CR[ri]C[dantesx [24k\]: s12 Karamfil [14k\]: 12* ] ;B[rh]CR[rh]C[etl3: S12 ] ;W[sh]CR[sh]C[Karamfil [14k\]: *white ] ;B[qg]CR[qg] ;W[si]CR[si] ;B[qj]CR[qj] ;W[rk]CR[rk]C[etl3: yes ] ;B[rj]CR[rj]C[Vanya [10k?\]: again and again ] ;W[sj]CR[sj] ;B[qi]CR[qi] ;W[sk]CR[sk]C[fonly [8k\]: heheheh ] ;B[ql]CR[ql]C[dantesx [24k\]: keeps repeating until bottom agui [6k?\]: :)))) etl3: haha Zef [25k?\]: (nice) Pianist [?\]: w is 100k Karamfil [14k\]: and make that niiiiice wall while killing black :D ]) (;C[Scribe [-\]: need better way to kill Zark [3k\]: r13 ] ;B[]C[hansb [5k?\]: RR12 then R11 ] ;W[qn]CR[qn]C[etl3: R11? Scribe [-\]: same as net vs ladder....net better kill hansb [5k?\]: R12 first Karamfil [14k\]: and so :P there still white be blacks wall :P playmore [1d\]: R13 agui [6k?\]: S11 Scribe [-\]: see Lessons in the Fundamentals of Go Pianist [?\]: cannot kill now mallow [9k?\]: but even if it doesn't die...err... etl3: R11? mallow [9k?\]: I think white doesn't get so much out of the deal Vanya [10k?\]: R11 ? dantesx [24k\]: hehe Karamfil [14k\]: ^^ ] ;B[qh]CR[qh]C[dantesx [24k\]: this is difficult Pianist [?\]: no way to kill ] ;W[ri]CR[ri]C[Scribe [-\]: atari at r13 helps white to repair a defect ] ;B[rh]CR[rh] ;W[sh]CR[sh]C[hansb [5k?\]: R11 ] (;B[qg]CR[qg] ;W[si]CR[si] ;B[qj]CR[qj] ;W[rk]CR[rk] ;B[rj]CR[rj] ;W[sj]CR[sj] ;B[qi]CR[qi] ;W[sk]CR[sk] ;B[ql]CR[ql] ;W[rm]CR[rm]) (;B[qi]CR[qi] ;W[rj]CR[rj] ;B[qk]CR[qk]C[Karamfil [14k\]: :D Pianist [?\]: haha etl3: S8? ] (;W[rk]CR[rk] ;B[si]CR[si] ;W[sj]CR[sj] ;B[qg]CR[qg] ;W[si]CR[si] ;B[rl]CR[rl]C[agui [6k?\]: ahhhh dantesx [24k\]: white's dead ]) (;W[rm]CR[rm]C[etl3: S8 is damezumari.. ]) (;W[rl]CR[rl] ;B[rk]CR[rk] ;W[sk]CR[sk] ;B[qj]CR[qj]LB[qn:A]C[Karamfil [14k\]: no wai :P Ordiac [8k\]: aargh etl3: dead Karamfil [14k\]: T10 Karamfil [14k\]: :D Vanya [10k?\]: nice technique Karamfil [14k\]: and i meant no way for white to live :D LPDavid [16k\]: But it's still good for black to run it all the way and build the wall ? ])))))) (;W[pb]CR[pb]LB[nc:C][oc:A][nd:B]C[Mysterious [22k\]: S18 ? dantesx [24k\]: black is caught? etl3: R16 etl3: R156 etl3: I like R15 ] (;B[rd]CR[rd]C[Karamfil [14k\]: :D ] ;W[qe]CR[qe] (;B[re]CR[re]C[etl3: no ] ;W[qf]CR[qf] ;B[rb]CR[rb]) (;B[rb]CR[rb]C[etl3: no Hiul [14k\]: shisho r14 ] (;W[re]CR[re] ;B[sc]CR[sc]C[Mysterious [22k\]: Q14 etl3: Q14? Karamfil [14k\]: R13 :) ] (;W[pf]CR[pf]C[Vanya [10k?\]: Q14 Vanya [10k?\]: T15 ] ;B[oe]CR[oe]LB[oc:B][qf:A]C[Karamfil [14k\]: r3 feels better Scribe [-\]: two cutting points that white must defend Karamfil [14k\]: *r13 noel [10k\]: for black agui [6k?\]: for black chrpa [6k\]: good for black MRei [?\]: not bad for black Mysterious [22k\]: good for all :) dantesx [24k\]: 3 extra liberties Vanya [10k?\]: T15 is sente to eliminate one cutting point dantesx [24k\]: good for black defenitely agui [6k?\]: :)))) Karamfil [14k\]: white :P fonly [8k\]: WHİTEE Mysterious [22k\]: for both ] (;W[od]CR[od] ;B[ne]CR[ne]C[Grimley [5k\]: vanya that doesn't help ] ;W[md]CR[md]C[Vanya [10k?\]: yes, i see ] ;B[qf]CR[qf]) (;W[nf]CR[nf] (;B[oc]CR[oc] ;W[od]CR[od] ;B[ob]CR[ob] ;W[of]CR[of]C[Vanya [10k?\]: sorry ] ;B[pa]CR[pa] ;W[pc]CR[pc] ;B[pb]CR[pb] ;W[ne]CR[ne]C[Karamfil [14k\]: awww kawaiii :D Scribe [-\]: good for white agui [6k?\]: yes Mysterious [22k\]: no ivanho [9k\]: yeah me too :) dantesx [24k\]: black is closed off murky: ok for W ]) (;B[of]CR[of]C[fonly [8k\]: :P Karamfil [14k\]: ara ara noel [10k\]: :) etl3: punch a hole in the tower shape Scribe [-\]: white has big problem jjermann [19k\]: if white plays T15 first, black won't answer T16? ] ;W[og]CR[og]C[dantesx [24k\]: doesn't look good for w ] (;B[qf]CR[qf] ;W[pg]CR[pg] ;B[rf]CR[rf] ;W[ne]CR[ne] ;B[se]CR[se]) (;B[pg]CR[pg] ;W[qf]CR[qf] ;B[ng]CR[ng] ;W[oh]CR[oh] ;B[ne]CR[ne]C[Karamfil [14k\]: any ways huge white wall is coming ;D ])))) (;W[qg]CR[qg] ;B[oc]CR[oc] ;W[ob]CR[ob] ;B[nc]CR[nc] ;W[od]CR[od]) (;W[od]CR[od] ;B[pf]CR[pf] ;W[qg]CR[qg] ;B[nf]CR[nf] ;W[ld]CR[ld] ;B[pi]CR[pi])) (;W[qf]CR[qf] ;B[pf]CR[pf]C[hansb [5k?\]: R13 ]))) (;B[qe]CR[qe]C[etl3: R15^ ] ;W[rd]CR[rd]C[etl3: The S15 ] ;B[oc]CR[oc] ;W[ob]CR[ob] ;B[nc]CR[nc]C[Scribe [-\]: good enough for black ] ;W[od]CR[od]C[Pianist [?\]: s17 is bad ] ;B[mc]CR[mc]C[agui [6k?\]: no ] ;W[md]CR[md] ;B[lc]CR[lc] ;W[rb]CR[rb] ;B[ld]CR[ld]C[etl3: M15 Mysterious [22k\]: O14 ? ])) (;W[rb]CR[rb] ;B[qe]CR[qe] ;W[rd]CR[rd] ;B[oc]CR[oc] ;W[pb]CR[pb] ;B[ob]CR[ob] ;W[qa]CR[qa] ;B[od]CR[od]C[Pianist [?\]: w resigns noel [10k\]: good for black agui [6k?\]: good for black ouigkmy [17k\]: good for b ])))) (;W[nc]CR[nc] ;B[qc]CR[qc] ;W[qd]CR[qd]C[Pianist [?\]: :) etl3: Q16 Pianist [?\]: not so tricky Karamfil [14k\]: nope thanks :) ouigkmy [17k\]: no, thanks noel [10k\]: no thank you FransCV [10k\]: thanks agui [6k?\]: no thanks xDarigaaz [7k?\]: clear ] ;B[pd]CR[pd] ;W[rc]CR[rc] ;B[qb]CR[qb]C[hansb [5k?\]: which of thhe two? ] (;W[pb]CR[pb]C[Pianist [?\]: R15 etl3: R15 hansb [5k?\]: R15 Pianist [?\]: give up 2 stones, then extend ivanho [9k\]: black R15 Pianist [?\]: simple agui [6k?\]: yes thanks ] (;B[rd]CR[rd]C[chrpa [6k\]: yes ] ;W[qe]CR[qe] ;B[rb]CR[rb] ;W[qf]CR[qf] ;B[pf]CR[pf] ;W[qg]CR[qg] ;B[pg]CR[pg] ;W[qh]CR[qh] ;B[ph]CR[ph] ;W[qi]CR[qi] ;B[qa]CR[qa]C[Scribe [-\]: good for white ]) (;B[qe]CR[qe]C[etl3: got it! ] ;W[rd]CR[rd] ;B[re]CR[re] ;W[rb]CR[rb]C[Scribe [-\]: joseki ] (;B[qj]CR[qj]C[Pianist [?\]: even Mysterious [22k\]: B etl3: not joseki etl3: too good for black ]) (;B[qi]CR[qi]))) (;W[od]CR[od]C[Pianist [?\]: P16 Pianist [?\]: P16 leads to a complicated variation hansb [5k?\]: P15 etl3: R15 noel [10k\]: S16 ] (;B[qe]CR[qe] ;W[rd]CR[rd] (;B[re]CR[re] ;W[rb]CR[rb]LB[pb:A][od:B]C[Pianist [?\]: no longer good for b etl3: Don't play at S15 ]) (;B[rb]CR[rb] ;W[re]CR[re] ;B[rf]CR[rf] ;W[qf]CR[qf] ;B[rg]CR[rg] ;W[pf]CR[pf] ;B[oe]CR[oe] ;W[nf]CR[nf] ;B[nd]CR[nd]C[ouigkmy [17k\]: aaa, o16 ;\] ])) (;B[pb]CR[pb]C[Karamfil [14k\]: aww u tricky 7p XD ] ;W[oc]CR[oc] (;B[qe]CR[qe] ;W[rd]CR[rd] ;B[rb]CR[rb]C[etl3: YEs ] ;W[re]CR[re] ;B[rf]CR[rf]LB[od:A]C[Karamfil [14k\]: thats sooo nice ^^ Pianist [?\]: w will cut here ouigkmy [17k\]: net ] (;W[rg]CR[rg]C[Pianist [?\]: no ] ;B[qf]CR[qf] ;W[sf]CR[sf] ;B[se]CR[se] ;W[sd]CR[sd]C[Karamfil [14k\]: hmm ] ;B[sb]CR[sb] ;W[sg]CR[sg] ;B[qh]CR[qh] ;W[ri]CR[ri] ;B[rh]CR[rh] ;W[sh]CR[sh] ;B[qi]CR[qi] ;W[rj]CR[rj] ;B[sc]CR[sc] ;W[se]CR[se] ;B[qk]CR[qk]) (;W[qf]CR[qf] ;B[rg]CR[rg] (;W[qg]CR[qg] ;B[se]CR[se]C[Karamfil [14k\]: ladder is for blakc ;) Pianist [?\]: R13 should be Q14 Pianist [?\]: then net Karamfil [14k\]: 7p is always right :P ]) (;W[pf]CR[pf] ;B[oe]CR[oe] ;W[nf]CR[nf]C[Karamfil [14k\]: hmm Karamfil [14k\]: :D etl3: loose ladder ]))) (;B[rd]CR[rd] ;W[qe]CR[qe] ;B[re]CR[re] ;W[qf]CR[qf] ;B[rb]CR[rb])) (;B[rd]CR[rd] ;W[qe]CR[qe]C[hansb [5k?\]: P15 ] ;B[re]CR[re] ;W[qf]CR[qf] ;B[pb]CR[pb] ;W[oc]CR[oc] ;B[rb]CR[rb] ;W[of]CR[of]LB[pb:A][rf:B]C[Karamfil [14k\]: but that influence... ouigkmy [17k\]: good for b ? Pianist [?\]: cannot s18 Pianist [?\]: must fight Pianist [?\]: :) noel [10k\]: black still has aji Karamfil [14k\]: isnt it even? Pianist [?\]: horrible for b hansb [5k?\]: 'good enough for black' ])))) (;W[pc]CR[pc] ;B[pq]CR[pq] ;W[dc]CR[dc] ;B[de]CR[de] ;W[ce]CR[ce] ;B[cf]CR[cf] ;W[cd]CR[cd] ;B[df]CR[df] ;W[fc]CR[fc] ;B[cj]CR[cj] ;W[qo]CR[qo] ;B[pe]CR[pe] ;W[nc]CR[nc] ;B[qc]CR[qc] ;W[qd]CR[qd] ;B[pd]CR[pd] ;W[rc]CR[rc] ;B[qb]CR[qb] ;W[pb]CR[pb] ;B[qe]CR[qe] ;W[rd]CR[rd] ;B[re]CR[re] ;W[rb]CR[rb] ;B[qj]CR[qj]LB[bb:C][sc:D][re:F][bf:E][gg:A][nh:B]C[Scribe [-\]: compare the upper left and upper right results Scribe [-\]: upper right is too good for black Karamfil [14k\]: C :) kerem74 [18k\]: c etl3: C MRei [?\]: c noel [10k\]: C is bigger Hiul [14k\]: c Karamfil [14k\]: and in D corner white is overconcentrated MRei [?\]: b Mysterious [22k\]: a ivanho [9k\]: B part is bigger Hiul [14k\]: b mallow [9k?\]: B Karamfil [14k\]: B is stronger Scribe [-\]: upper right, white corner is smaller AND black side is larger noel [10k\]: B is stronger Jadeite [18k?\]: B side stronger noel [10k\]: not anymore Hiul [14k\]: no ivanho [9k\]: no, its pervectly clear to me :D etl3: nope ])) (;B[ba]CR[ba]C[Hiul [14k\]: homework ^^ ] ;W[ca]CR[ca] ;B[cb]CR[cb]C[Karamfil [14k\]: homework homework xD ] ;W[db]CR[db] ;B[bc]CR[bc] ;W[eb]CR[eb] ;B[dc]CR[dc] ;W[fc]CR[fc] ;B[ec]CR[ec] ;W[fd]CR[fd] ;B[ed]CR[ed] (;W[fe]CR[fe]) (;W[ge]CR[ge] ;B[ee]CR[ee] ;W[hd]CR[hd] ;B[ff]CR[ff] ;W[hc]CR[hc] ;B[ib]CR[ib] ;W[hb]CR[hb] ;B[jc]CR[jc] ;AB[jd][ie][gf][hf]C[Karamfil [14k\]: ya black to kill ;D guojuan [5p\]: I am here :) etl3: Thank you Scribe [-\]: Homework ! noel [10k\]: thank you for the lesson tukan [14k\]: thank you very much, have a nice week xDarigaaz [7k?\]: thank you very much Chalx [6k\]: thanks mingjiu Hiul [14k\]: thx agui [6k?\]: Thank you very much !! jjermann [19k\]: thx wholeboard [7k\]: thanks! guojuan [5p\]: thanks MRei [?\]: thank you chrpa [6k\]: thank you Scribe [-\]: Xiexie Mingjiu Laoshi ! ManMachine [-\]: zankju bye Zef [25k?\]: thanks ! ivanho [9k\]: thank you and to ing emot [10k\]: Thank you Karamfil [14k\]: thanks you very much :D gesuto [6k\]: thank you Chiodus [17k\]: thank Ordiac [8k\]: thx IcancerI [23k?\]: danke agui [6k?\]: See you Hu [13k?\]: Thanks! aleph0 [-\]: thx kerem74 [18k\]: thxx Zark [3k\]: thank you soupspoon: cheerio ivanho [9k\]: bye inte [?\]: thank you kerem74 [18k\]: saol noel [10k\]: bye Karamfil [14k\]: bye bye :D chrpa [6k\]: bye tukan [14k\]: Děkuji jjermann [19k\]: bye ])))