(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[0.50]TM[1800]
PW[mingjiu]PB[mingjiu]WR[7p]BR[7p]DT[2006-06-21]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[cio [?\]: yes
FransCV [11k\]: no
agui [6k?\]: yes what if black plays q2 instead of R3
]
(;B[pd]BL[1798]
;W[dp]WL[1794]
;B[pq]BL[1798]
;W[dc]WL[1784]
;B[fq]BL[1796]
;W[hq]WL[1781]
;B[cq]BL[1794]
;W[dq]WL[1776]C[cio [?\]: if im white, how do i counter this opening
]
;B[cp]BL[1793]C[jjermann [15k\]: Rafhost2: w a18 is a ko
]
;W[do]WL[1765]C[cio [?\]: i usually play this opening as black
]
;B[dr]BL[1793]
;W[er]WL[1758]
;B[cr]BL[1793]
;W[eq]WL[1758]
;B[cn]BL[1793]C[Janus37 [5k\]: yeah, a game !
]
;W[po]WL[1757]
;B[qo]BL[1791]C[Cornak [13k\]: :)
]
(;W[pp]WL[1756]
;B[qp]BL[1790]
;W[oq]WL[1756]C[agui [6k?\]: Q2
Scribe [-\]: After connect Difficult for white to convert bottom into territory
]
(;B[pn]BL[1788]C[whendrik [12k\]: no
]
;W[qq]WL[1756]
;B[pr]BL[1787]C[whendrik [12k\]: i want to play O3
]
;W[rq]WL[1753]
;B[or]BL[1785]LB[np:B][nq:A]C[whendrik [12k\]: nadare
FransCV [11k\]: nadare
etl3 [?\]: O4
whendrik [12k\]: depends on ladder
FransCV [11k\]: o3
Scribe [-\]: Who knows this joseki...What is white's next move ?
Rafghost2 [20k\]: o3
whendrik [12k\]: 2
agui [6k?\]: 2
whendrik [12k\]: O3 and O4
agui [6k?\]: o3 -o4
Reveal [1k?\]: R6
Pasukaru [7k\]: r6?
pel [8k\]: o3 if white has the ladder
emot [10k\]: r6
Janus37 [5k\]: o5
Scribe [-\]: To play at o3 the ladder by black must be broken
][whendrik [12k\]: nadare
FransCV [11k\]: nadare
etl3 [?\]: O4
whendrik [12k\]: depends on ladder
FransCV [11k\]: o3
Scribe [-\]: Who knows this joseki...What is white's next move ?
Rafghost2 [20k\]: o3
whendrik [12k\]: 2
agui [6k?\]: 2
whendrik [12k\]: O3 and O4
agui [6k?\]: o3 -o4
Reveal [1k?\]: R6
Pasukaru [7k\]: r6?
pel [8k\]: o3 if white has the ladder
][whendrik [12k\]: nadare
FransCV [11k\]: nadare
etl3 [?\]: O4
whendrik [12k\]: depends on ladder
FransCV [11k\]: o3
Scribe [-\]: Who knows this joseki...What is white's next move ?
Rafghost2 [20k\]: o3
whendrik [12k\]: 2
agui [6k?\]: 2
whendrik [12k\]: O3 and O4
agui [6k?\]: o3 -o4
Reveal [1k?\]: R6
Pasukaru [7k\]: r6?
pel [8k\]: o3 if white has the ladder
]
(;W[np]WL[1752]C[whendrik [12k\]: O3
Rafghost2 [20k\]: o3
agui [6k?\]: o3
whendrik [12k\]: Shouldn't Black play 03 instead of R5?
Scribe [-\]: Result is better for White after cut at r6
]
(;B[nq]BL[1784]C[whendrik [12k\]: R6
Scribe [-\]: Black kills White with s2
]
(;W[qn]WL[1751]C[agui [6k?\]: R6
Scribe [-\]: White must cut
whendrik [12k\]: P4
]
;B[op]BL[1782]
;W[oo]WL[1750]C[etl3 [?\]: P4
Blackstorm [8k?\]: yes :P
]
(;B[mp]BL[1780]C[cio [?\]: white
]
;W[no]WL[1727]
;B[mo]BL[1755]
(;W[om]WL[1644]
;B[pm]BL[1738]
;W[qm]WL[1595]
;B[pl]BL[1735]
(;W[nm]WL[1589]C[clemi [21k?\]: yes
seidelin [9k\]: no
]
;B[ql]BL[1732]
;W[ro]WL[1586]
;B[rm]BL[1731]
;W[rn]WL[1583]
(;B[jq]BL[1721]
;W[pi]WL[1513]
;B[qg]BL[1716]
;W[qh]WL[1505]
;B[nk]BL[1699]
(;W[ok]WL[1464]
(;B[ol]BL[1696]
;W[nl]WL[1463]
(;B[qj]BL[1632]
(;W[oj]WL[1457]
;B[rh]BL[1630]
(;W[mk]WL[1454]
(;B[qi]BL[1626]TR[pd][nk][cn][mo][po][ro][mp][pp][qq][rq]
;W[ph]WL[1450]
;B[de]BL[1613]
;W[fd]WL[1436]
;B[cc]BL[1610]
;W[cb]WL[1422]
;B[cd]BL[1609]
;W[eb]WL[1420]
;B[dh]BL[1593]C[cio [?\]: yes
]
;W[cj]WL[1330]
;B[ci]BL[1584]
;W[dj]WL[1318]
;B[fh]BL[1567]
;W[em]WL[1316]
;B[hc]BL[1556]
;W[jc]WL[1192]
;B[he]BL[1546]
;W[mc]WL[1191]
;B[fc]BL[1539]
;W[ed]WL[1181]
;B[fb]BL[1513]
;W[bc]WL[1175]
;B[bd]BL[1512]
;W[ac]WL[1174]
;B[ad]BL[1487]
;W[ba]WL[1143]
;B[oc]BL[1461]
;W[gd]WL[1128]
;B[ic]BL[1451]
;W[jd]WL[1120]
;B[ie]BL[1450]
;W[eg]WL[1087]
;B[eh]BL[1443]
;W[cm]WL[956]
;B[bm]BL[1433]
;W[cl]WL[948]
;B[bn]BL[1394]
;W[lq]WL[742]
;B[mq]BL[1337]
(;W[jp]WL[598]
(;B[kq]BL[1272]
(;W[kp]WL[579]
;B[lr]BL[1257]C[cio [?\]: i can hear now
cio [?\]: yes
cio [?\]: yes
]
(;W[jm]WL[568]LB[ea:C][ab:A][bb:B]C[cio [?\]: yes
]
(;B[kf]BL[1217]
;W[me]WL[561]
;B[pg]BL[1198]
(;W[nj]WL[551]
;B[mg]BL[1194]
(;W[lf]WL[545]
;B[lg]BL[1191]
;W[ke]WL[544]
;B[jf]BL[1185]
;W[nb]WL[543]
;B[ob]BL[1182]
;W[gj]WL[490]
(;B[lb]BL[1174]
;W[kb]WL[461]
;B[mb]BL[1089]
;W[lc]WL[457]
;B[nc]BL[1088]
;W[la]WL[454]
;B[na]BL[1087]
;W[ib]WL[454]
;B[hb]BL[1086]
;W[ja]WL[453]
;B[dn]BL[1078]
;W[en]WL[451]
;B[fr]BL[985]
;W[fp]WL[309]
;B[gp]BL[960]
;W[gq]WL[296]
;B[es]BL[914]
;W[gr]WL[295]
;B[fs]BL[910]
;W[fo]WL[291]
;B[ip]BL[904]
;W[iq]WL[144]
;B[io]BL[900]
;W[in]WL[143]
;B[jo]BL[888]
;)
(;B[ij]CR[ij]
;W[hi]CR[hi]
;B[mf]CR[mf]
;W[le]CR[le]
(;B[cf]CR[cf])
(;B[ji]CR[ji]
;W[hl]CR[hl]
;B[iq]CR[iq]
;W[ip]CR[ip]
;B[hr]CR[hr]
;W[gq]CR[gq]
;B[gr]CR[gr]
;W[fr]CR[fr]
;B[kn]CR[kn]
;W[jn]CR[jn]
;B[hk]CR[hk]
;W[gk]CR[gk]
;B[il]CR[il]
;W[im]CR[im]
;B[dn]CR[dn]
;W[en]CR[en]
;B[jb]CR[jb]
;W[kb]CR[kb]
;B[ib]CR[ib]
;W[lb]CR[lb]
;B[ff]CR[ff]
;W[dd]CR[dd]
;B[cf]CR[cf]C[cio [?\]: i see
cio [?\]: no questions
])))
(;W[nb]CR[nb]
;B[ob]CR[ob]))
(;W[mg]CR[mg]
;B[ff]CR[ff]
(;W[iq]CR[iq])
(;W[qc]CR[qc]
;B[pb]CR[pb]
;W[rf]CR[rf]
;B[rg]CR[rg]
;W[qb]CR[qb]C[cio [?\]: ok
cio [?\]: no
cio [?\]: no questions
cio [?\]: no
cio [?\]: no
cio [?\]: i didnt do it yet
cio [?\]: i did not do hw yet
cio [?\]: yes
cio [?\]: next time
cio [?\]: friday same time?
cio [?\]: 9:00?
mingjiu [7p\]: 9:15a.m
cio [?\]: 9:00a.m. is fine
cio [?\]: i wake up at 7
cio [?\]: i have to go to the east coast, so i have to change time zone
cio [?\]: ok
])))
(;B[ff]CR[ff]
;W[dd]CR[dd]
;B[cf]CR[cf]TR[jc][mc][jd][oj][mk][ok]
(;W[hk]CR[hk])
(;W[ik]CR[ik]
;B[iq]CR[iq]
;W[ip]CR[ip]
;B[hr]CR[hr]
;W[gq]CR[gq]
;B[gr]CR[gr]
;W[fr]CR[fr]
;B[fp]CR[fp]
;W[go]CR[go]
;B[dn]CR[dn]
;W[en]CR[en]
;B[gj]CR[gj]
;W[gl]CR[gl]
;B[pg]CR[pg]TR[jc][mc][jd][bg][aq][ks]C[cio [?\]: no questions
]))
(;B[iq]CR[iq]
;W[ip]CR[ip]
;B[hr]CR[hr]))
(;W[ff]CR[ff]
;B[cf]CR[cf]
;W[gg]CR[gg]TR[hc][ic][jc][mc][jd][he][ie])
(;W[gf]CR[gf]LB[jc:C][mc:E][jd:D][lf:A][qf:B]))
(;W[iq]CR[iq]C[cio [?\]: hello?
]))
(;B[iq]CR[iq]))
(;W[kq]CR[kq]))
(;B[oc]CR[oc]
;W[ri]CR[ri]
;B[qi]CR[qi]
;W[ph]CR[ph]
;B[rg]CR[rg]
;W[rk]CR[rk]
;B[qk]CR[qk]
;W[rl]CR[rl]
;B[rj]CR[rj]TR[rg][rm]))
(;W[pg]CR[pg]
;B[qf]CR[qf]
;W[mk]CR[mk]
;B[oc]CR[oc]C[cio [?\]: no question
]))
(;W[rg]CR[rg]
;B[oj]CR[oj]
;W[qf]CR[qf]
;B[nc]CR[nc]
;W[mk]CR[mk]
;B[nj]CR[nj]TR[qg][mk][ok][jq][nq][qq][rq][or]))
(;B[oj]CR[oj]
(;W[rg]CR[rg])
(;W[pg]CR[pg])
(;W[pk]CR[pk]
;B[pj]CR[pj]
;W[qk]CR[qk]
;B[qj]CR[qj]
;W[rk]CR[rk]
;B[rj]CR[rj]
;W[rl]CR[rl]
;B[pg]CR[pg])))
(;B[oj]CR[oj]C[cio [?\]: yes
]
(;W[pk]CR[pk]
;B[pj]CR[pj]
;W[qk]CR[qk]
;B[qj]CR[qj]
;W[rk]CR[rk]
;B[rj]CR[rj]
(;W[rl]CR[rl]
;B[pg]TR[pg][qg][qh][pi][si][sj][sk][pl][ql][sl][pm][rm][sm][pn][qq][rq])
(;W[pg]CR[pg]
;B[qf]CR[qf]
;W[rh]CR[rh]
;B[mi]CR[mi]
;W[ng]CR[ng]
(;B[rl]CR[rl]
;W[ol]CR[ol]
;B[sk]CR[sk])
(;B[nd]CR[nd])))
(;W[pj]CR[pj]
;B[ol]CR[ol]
;W[pk]CR[pk]
;B[nl]CR[nl])))
(;W[pg]CR[pg]
;B[qf]CR[qf]
(;W[nh]CR[nh]
;B[qj]CR[qj]
;W[rh]CR[rh]
;B[lk]CR[lk]
;W[ln]CR[ln]
;B[lh]CR[lh]
(;W[ok]CR[ok])
(;W[mi]CR[mi]))
(;W[qj]CR[qj]
;B[ol]CR[ol])))
(;B[kq]CR[kq]
;W[pi]CR[pi]
;B[ol]CR[ol]))
(;W[mn]CR[mn]
;B[ln]CR[ln]
;W[mm]CR[mm]
(;B[ol]CR[ol]
;W[ro]CR[ro])
(;B[ql]CR[ql]
;W[ro]CR[ro]TR[mm][mn]
;B[kq]CR[kq]
(;W[lo]CR[lo]
;B[ko]CR[ko]
;W[mq]CR[mq]
;B[lp]CR[lp]
;W[nr]CR[nr])
(;W[pi]CR[pi]
;B[ol]CR[ol]))))
(;W[pm]CR[pm]
;B[on]CR[on]
;W[nn]CR[nn]
;B[om]CR[om]
;W[nm]CR[nm]
;B[ol]CR[ol]
;W[nl]CR[nl]
;B[qm]CR[qm]
;W[rn]CR[rn]
;B[rm]CR[rm]
;W[ro]CR[ro]
;B[ok]CR[ok]
;W[lr]CR[lr]))
(;B[no]CR[no]C[Blackstorm [8k?\]: no
]
;W[on]CR[on]C[FransCV [11k\]: yes
]
;B[mp]CR[mp]C[Scribe [-\]: Black has a lot of territory now
]
;W[pm]LB[gp:A]TR[pm][cn][on][qn][rn][do][no][oo][po][cp][dp][mp][op][pp][cq][dq][eq][hq][nq][pq][cr][dr][er][or][pr]C[Scribe [-\]: Joseki
Nezumi [6k?\]: who play?
etl3 [?\]: black
pel [8k\]: equal?
Pasukaru [7k\]: b
seidelin [9k\]: k3
gotobigo [?\]: even
Scribe [-\]: Whole better who gained from this joseki ?
agui [6k?\]: for black
clemi [21k?\]: better for white ?
tablescrap [8k?\]: good for w
Cornak [13k\]: good for black
FransCV [11k\]: b
etl3 [?\]: Black gained
Scribe [-\]: Whole Board ?
Domsablos [20k?\]: P5 good for white because the right side is bigger?
Cornak [13k\]: because white's influence is countered
etl3 [?\]: what happened to white's wall?
pel [8k\]: perhaps black sente is bigger?
whendrik [12k\]: low stone
Blackstorm [8k?\]: black alive white not
Scribe [-\]: White gave territory to Black in lower left to gain wall
ljl [13k\]: blacks wall faces white?
Scribe [-\]: White gained on right side
Scribe [-\]: White right side larger than black lower left
Scribe [-\]: bottom is damaged for both
]
;B[jq]CR[jq]LB[fr:A]TR[cn][cp][cq][cr][dr]
;W[]
;B[fr]CR[fr]
;W[fp]CR[fp]
(;B[gp]CR[gp]
;W[gq]CR[gq])
(;B[hr]CR[hr]
;W[gp]CR[gp])))
(;W[op]CR[op]C[whendrik [12k\]: no
agui [6k?\]: no
brx [8k?\]: o5
Scribe [-\]: How can Black punish White p4 ?
]
(;B[mp]CR[mp]
;W[no]CR[no]
;B[qm]CR[qm]
;W[mq]CR[mq]
;B[nr]CR[nr]
;W[mr]CR[mr]
;B[rr]CR[rr]C[FransCV [11k\]: b
])
(;B[no]CR[no]C[brx [8k?\]: no sorry
])))
(;B[no]CR[no]C[Jefia [13k\]: yeah
agui [6k?\]: no
rayen [6k\]: yea
Scribe [-\]: Also joseki
]
(;W[mp]CR[mp]
;B[on]CR[on]
;W[op]CR[op]C[Jefia [13k\]: L5 
jjermann [15k\]: S2?
agui [6k?\]: n2
etl3 [?\]: R6?
saodiseng [1d\]: s2
rayen [6k\]: S2 
FransCV [11k\]: s2
ljl [13k\]: r11
FransCV [11k\]: oh
Scribe [-\]: Joseki move is s4
]
(;B[mr]CR[mr]C[whendrik [12k\]: S2
]
;W[qn]CR[qn]C[rayen [6k\]: uh oh
])
(;B[rr]CR[rr]C[Janus37 [5k\]: s2 r6
Janus37 [5k\]: no ,
Janus37 [5k\]: ?
clemi [21k?\]: Q6 become a good gut for white...
agui [6k?\]: R6
etl3 [?\]: What about R6 cut?
saodiseng [1d\]: s2 doesnt work
Nezumi [6k?\]: R6 
LemoNT [-\]: R6 cuts
saodiseng [1d\]: white r6
clemi [21k?\]: r6 sorry
]
(;W[qr]CR[qr]
;B[qs]CR[qs]
;W[sr]CR[sr]
;B[rs]CR[rs])
(;W[qn]CR[qn]
;B[rn]CR[rn]
;W[qr]CR[qr]
(;B[qs]CR[qs]
;W[ro]CR[ro]
;B[qm]CR[qm]
;W[rp]CR[rp]C[jjermann [15k\]: houps
rayen [6k\]: oh right
rayen [6k\]: now b 2 and w 3
])
(;B[rp]CR[rp]C[agui [6k?\]: white increasses liberties
]
;W[rs]CR[rs]
;B[qm]CR[qm]
;W[nr]CR[nr])))
(;B[rp]CR[rp]
(;W[qr]CR[qr]
;B[nr]CR[nr]
;W[mr]CR[mr]
;B[rs]CR[rs]C[Scribe [-\]: Joseki move is s4
]
;W[qs]CR[qs]
;B[sq]CR[sq])
(;W[qn]CR[qn]
;B[rn]CR[rn]C[whendrik [12k\]: Is this the right joseki to start for b?
]
;W[qm]CR[qm]C[Blackstorm [8k?\]: no
jjermann [15k\]: Janus37: Q9 not the best in this situation I suppose?
]
;B[rr]CR[rr]
;W[rm]CR[rm]C[ljl [13k\]: dos not that hur the p6 set?
Janus37 [5k\]: ok
]
(;B[so]CR[so]C[Scribe [-\]: Black has two ways t5 and r2
Scribe [-\]: r2 no aji left but 2 or 3 points smaller than t5
]
(;W[sl]CR[sl]C[Scribe [-\]: possibly sente for white at t8
Scribe [-\]: as a result of t5
]
;B[mr]CR[mr])
(;W[pk]CR[pk]C[tablescrap [8k?\]: w much better
]
;B[mm]CR[mm]C[ljl [13k\]: 02?
whendrik [12k\]: I like w
rayen [6k\]: I like black
Pasukaru [7k\]: good for w
FransCV [11k\]: white
FransCV [11k\]: oh
tablescrap [8k?\]: dang
]
(;W[qh]CR[qh]
;B[ip]CR[ip]
;W[iq]CR[iq]
;B[kp]CR[kp])
(;W[kp]CR[kp]
;B[qi]CR[qi]C[Scribe [-\]: Result is good for Black
]))
(;W[qi]CR[qi]C[Scribe [-\]: Result is good for White  
]
;B[mm]CR[mm]C[Janus37 [5k\]: so Q9 not the best .
]
;W[kp]CR[kp]C[Janus37 [5k\]: ?
Scribe [-\]: Better for White
]))
(;B[qr]CR[qr]))))
(;W[nr]CR[nr]
;B[oo]CR[oo]
;W[op]CR[op]
;B[mp]CR[mp]
;W[nq]CR[nq]
;B[mq]CR[mq]C[Scribe [-\]: White dies
])))
(;W[nq]CR[nq]C[etl3 [?\]: so white has to play B
]
;B[nr]CR[nr]
;W[qn]CR[qn]
;B[oo]CR[oo]
;W[op]CR[op]
;B[mq]CR[mq]
;W[np]CR[np]
;B[no]CR[no]C[Rafghost2 [20k\]: b
rayen [6k\]: b
ljl [13k\]: black
agui [6k?\]: for black 
brx [8k?\]: w
etl3 [?\]: black
gotobigo [?\]: black
Pasukaru [7k\]: b
Tamvana [?\]: w
FransCV [11k\]: b
Janus37 [5k\]: b :)
Reveal [1k?\]: slightly better for B
])
(;W[mp]CR[mp]C[ljl [13k\]: p5
]))
(;B[qq]CR[qq]C[cio [?\]: if im white
Scribe [-\]: Simple
agui [6k?\]: Is black Q2 possible instead of R3 ?
]
;W[pn]CR[pn]
(;B[or]CR[or]
(;W[nq]CR[nq]
;B[nr]CR[nr]
(;W[lq]CR[lq]
;B[mq]CR[mq]
;W[mp]CR[mp]
;B[mr]CR[mr]
;W[lp]CR[lp]
;B[qm]CR[qm])
(;W[mq]CR[mq]
;B[qm]CR[qm]LB[jq:A]C[Rafghost2 [20k\]: w
jjermann [15k\]: black
rayen [6k\]: I like black
Nezumi [6k?\]: black
etl3 [?\]: White
whendrik [12k\]: w
jjermann [15k\]: black has 2 corners
Blackstorm [8k?\]: better for w
FransCV [11k\]: b
agui [6k?\]: even
jjermann [15k\]: 3
tablescrap [8k?\]: looks even to me
sonly [7k\]: both:)
Rafghost2 [20k\]: W
jjermann [15k\]: sorry 3 corners ;)
whendrik [12k\]: but w has sente now
Pasukaru [7k\]: black has nice cash
]
(;W[ol]CR[ol])
(;W[mr]CR[mr])))
(;W[nr]CR[nr]C[Blackstorm [8k?\]: this joseki belongs to cho hun hyoen :P
]))
(;B[qm]CR[qm]C[playmore [1d\]: what if O4 at P2?
]
(;W[np]CR[np]
;B[jq]CR[jq]C[cio [?\]: no
Scribe [-\]: Not good for White
]
;W[lq]CR[lq]C[Nezumi [6k?\]: K5 
]
;B[fr]CR[fr]
(;W[fs]CR[fs]
(;B[hr]CR[hr]C[pel [8k\]: ouch
]
(;W[gr]CR[gr]
;B[gq]CR[gq]
;W[gs]CR[gs]
;B[hp]CR[hp]
;W[iq]CR[iq]C[saodiseng [1d\]: ladder?
]
;B[ip]CR[ip]
;W[ir]CR[ir]
;B[jr]CR[jr]
;W[is]CR[is]C[saodiseng [1d\]: black has ladder?
]
;B[js]CR[js]
;W[hs]CR[hs]
(;B[ko]CR[ko])
(;B[jo]CR[jo]C[FransCV [11k\]: good for b
Janus37 [5k\]: ouch
etl3 [?\]: black
jjermann [15k\]: terrible for white?
pel [8k\]: nice reduction :>
Nezumi [6k?\]: bad for w
agui [6k?\]: good for black
Blackstorm [8k?\]: to nice for b
]
;W[gp]CR[gp]
;B[go]CR[go])
(;B[ds]CR[ds]
;W[gp]CR[gp]
;B[fp]CR[fp]
;W[es]CR[es]
;B[go]CR[go]
;W[jp]CR[jp]))
(;W[ir]CR[ir]
;B[gs]CR[gs]
;W[es]CR[es]
;B[iq]CR[iq]
;W[gq]CR[gq]
;B[jr]CR[jr]
;W[gr]CR[gr]
;B[is]CR[is])
(;W[fp]CR[fp]
;B[gr]CR[gr]
;W[gp]CR[gp]
;B[iq]CR[iq]
(;W[io]CR[io]
(;B[gs]CR[gs]
;W[es]CR[es]
;B[is]CR[is])
(;B[kr]CR[kr]))
(;W[ce]CR[ce]
;B[gs]CR[gs]
;W[es]CR[es]
;B[is]CR[is])))
(;B[gs]CR[gs]
;W[es]CR[es]
;B[hr]CR[hr]
;W[fp]CR[fp]))
(;W[fp]CR[fp]C[agui [6k?\]: F4
]
(;B[es]CR[es])
(;B[hr]CR[hr]C[cio [?\]: no
cio [?\]: no
]
;W[ir]CR[ir]
;B[iq]CR[iq]
;W[gr]CR[gr]
;B[gq]CR[gq]
;W[hs]CR[hs]
;B[hp]CR[hp]
;W[gp]CR[gp]
(;B[mq]CR[mq]
;W[fs]CR[fs]
;B[mp]CR[mp])
(;B[hr]CR[hr]C[whendrik [12k\]: no ko threads
Scribe [-\]: very heavy ko for white
Scribe [-\]: ko takes place within white's area
]
(;W[lo]CR[lo])
(;W[nc]CR[nc]C[Janus37 [5k\]: c5
agui [6k?\]: C5
]
;B[pf]CR[pf]
;W[hq]CR[hq]
;B[mq]CR[mq]
;W[mp]CR[mp]
;B[lr]CR[lr]C[jjermann [15k\]: G1 no local threat?
])))
(;B[gp]CR[gp]
;W[gq]CR[gq]
(;B[es]CR[es]
;W[go]CR[go]C[saodiseng [1d\]: ladder from before
])
(;B[fo]CR[fo]
;W[fs]CR[fs]
;B[ep]CR[ep]
;W[gr]CR[gr]C[Scribe [-\]: good for white
])))
(;W[hr]CR[hr]
;B[es]CR[es]))
(;W[kq]CR[kq]
;B[or]CR[or]
;W[nq]CR[nq]
;B[nr]CR[nr]
;W[mq]CR[mq]C[Nezumi [6k?\]: its good, for black :<
])
(;W[or]CR[or]
;B[jq]CR[jq])))
(;B[qn]CR[qn]
;W[pn]CR[pn]
;B[pm]CR[pm]
;W[qq]CR[qq]
;B[pr]CR[pr]
;W[rq]CR[rq]
;B[qr]CR[qr]))
(;W[qn]CR[qn]
;B[qp]CR[qp]C[cio [?\]: no question
]
;W[pm]CR[pm]
;B[nq]CR[nq]
;W[qi]CR[qi]C[cio [?\]: no
]))
(;B[bb]CR[bb]
;W[bd]CR[bd]
;B[bc]CR[bc]
;W[ad]CR[ad]
;B[cc]CR[cc]
;W[cd]CR[cd]
;B[eb]CR[eb]
;W[dd]CR[dd]
;B[fb]CR[fb]
;W[ec]CR[ec]
;AW[gb][gc][ed]C[Tarkam [?\]: hi master :)
gotobigo [?\]: yes
LemoNT [-\]: yes
Tarkam [?\]: yes :)
pel [8k\]: yep
LemoNT [-\]: yes
pel [8k\]: yep
Rafghost2 [20k\]: konnichiwa sensei
clemi [21k?\]: hello
LemoNT [-\]: ko
pel [8k\]: black dead
FransCV [11k\]: i think ko
pel [8k\]: D18 
LemoNT [-\]: D18
jjermann [15k\]: D18
FransCV [11k\]: d18
Rafghost2 [20k\]: d18
]
;B[]
;W[db]CR[db]
;B[dc]CR[dc]C[pel [8k\]: D19 
]
;W[da]CR[da]C[FransCV [11k\]: d19
pel [8k\]: C19 or C18 
LemoNT [-\]: C19
Tamvana [?\]: c19
FransCV [11k\]: c19
jjermann [15k\]: what does black do after white B19 instead of D19
Rafghost2 [20k\]: black is dead, not?
FransCV [11k\]: ko
]
(;B[ca]CR[ca]C[pel [8k\]: B19 
gotobigo [?\]: F19
LemoNT [-\]: B19
LemoNT [-\]: B19
jjermann [15k\]: B19 right away instead of D19?
etl3 [?\]: A17
seidelin [9k\]: a18
LemoNT [-\]: yes
Pasukaru [7k\]: b19
LemoNT [-\]: B19
agui [6k?\]: A19
Tamvana [?\]: a19
Rafghost2 [20k\]: a19
Pasukaru [7k\]: b19
gotobigo [?\]: E19
seidelin [9k\]: a18
Pasukaru [7k\]: b19
FransCV [11k\]: a18
manakem10 [11k?\]: hello
etl3 [?\]: F17?
Janus37 [5k\]: f17 ?
etl3 [?\]: but
etl3 [?\]: why doesn't black play A17?
etl3 [?\]: Instead of C19?
]
(;W[fa]CR[fa]
(;B[cb]CR[cb]
;W[ab]CR[ab]C[gotobigo [?\]: cant be all
etl3 [?\]: no..
])
(;B[ac]CR[ac]
(;W[aa]CR[aa]
;B[cb]CR[cb])
(;W[fc]CR[fc]
;B[aa]CR[aa])))
(;W[ac]CR[ac]
;B[ab]CR[ab]
;W[ba]CR[ba]
(;B[aa]CR[aa]
;W[fc]CR[fc])
(;B[ea]CR[ea]C[etl3 [?\]: >_<
]))
(;W[aa]CR[aa]C[seidelin [9k\]: a18
]
(;B[cb]CR[cb]C[gotobigo [?\]: E19
]
;W[ac]CR[ac])
(;B[ea]CR[ea]))
(;W[ab]CR[ab]
;B[ac]CR[ac]C[seidelin [9k\]: =(
]
(;W[aa]CR[aa]
;B[ea]CR[ea]C[seidelin [9k\]: then f19
])
(;W[fa]CR[fa]C[Rafghost2 [20k\]: no chance
]
;B[aa]CR[aa]))
(;W[cb]CR[cb])
(;W[ba]CR[ba]
(;B[ea]CR[ea]
;W[ab]CR[ab]C[etl3 [?\]: oh...
])
(;B[aa]CR[aa]
;W[ac]CR[ac]
;B[ab]CR[ab]C[etl3 [?\]: dead
]
;W[fc]CR[fc])))
(;B[ac]CR[ac]
(;W[fc]CR[fc]C[LemoNT [-\]: F19
FransCV [11k\]: b19
]
;B[ca]CR[ca]C[ljl [13k\]: c19
])
(;W[ab]CR[ab]
;B[ca]CR[ca]
;W[aa]CR[aa]
;B[ea]CR[ea])
(;W[ba]CR[ba]C[jjermann [15k\]: ko?
]
;B[aa]CR[aa]C[FransCV [11k\]: c18
clemi [21k?\]: yes
LemoNT [-\]: yes
agui [6k?\]: yes thanks
FransCV [11k\]: yeah
FransCV [11k\]: then c18
LemoNT [-\]: nope need to fight out the ko fight
LemoNT [-\]: if black wins ko fight black lives
Rafghost2 [20k\]: but w a18
]
(;W[cb]CR[cb])
(;W[ab]CR[ab]C[Rafghost2 [20k\]: dead
jjermann [15k\]: ko, not dead ;)
]))
(;W[cb]CR[cb]C[etl3 [?\]: XD e19
ljl [13k\]: c19
FransCV [11k\]: no
])
(;W[ca]CR[ca]
;B[ba]CR[ba]
;W[ab]CR[ab]
;B[ea]CR[ea])))
(;B[rc]CR[rc]
;W[rb]CR[rb]C[Scribe [-\]: New Homework !
]
;B[qc]CR[qc]C[Blackstorm [8k?\]: nice homework ;P
playgo [8k\]: too hard
]
;W[qb]CR[qb]
;B[pd]CR[pd]
;W[pc]CR[pc]
;B[qe]CR[qe]
;W[ob]CR[ob]
;B[nd]CR[nd]
;W[nb]CR[nb]
;B[md]CR[md]
;W[nc]CR[nc]
;B[mc]CR[mc]
;W[aa]CR[aa]
;B[mb]CR[mb]
;W[ab]CR[ab]
;B[kb]CR[kb]C[Scribe [-\]: Black to play
LemoNT [-\]: Q19
FransCV [11k\]: b to play?
FransCV [11k\]: ok
Blackstorm [8k?\]: t 18 :P
pel [8k\]: never really thought about it before - but the saying "what ever does not kill you makes you stronger" applies very well to go :)
Janus37 [5k\]: hah :)
clemi [21k?\]: ok, thx for the homework
rayen [6k\]: thx
Soul [11k\]: thanks for the nice lesson!
FransCV [11k\]: tnx
Blackstorm [8k?\]: thx
Slarty [-\]: thank you
brx [8k?\]: thank you!
kirschi [13k\]: thanks
FransCV [11k\]: cu next week
Janus37 [5k\]: thanks a lot !!!
hansili [9k\]: thank you!
agui [6k?\]: Thank you very much
etl3 [?\]: Thank you
Rafghost2 [20k\]: arigatou gozaimashita
reed338 [?\]: thank you
Tarkam [?\]: TRHNKS SENSEI
ljl [13k\]: thx
Scribe [-\]: Xiexie Mingjiu
clemi [21k?\]: thank you and see you next week
Tamvana [?\]: Thank you!
LemoNT [-\]: xiexie mingjiu laoshi
Scribe [-\]: Thanks to the Ing Goe Foundation
Soul [11k\]: bye
]))