(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1800]OT[5x30 byo-yomi] DT[2006-12-10]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[Scribe [-\]: no komi game ] ;B[pd]C[agui [4k\]: no audio Akamaru [3d\]: turn it on ] ;W[dp] ;B[pp] ;W[dd]C[agui [4k\]: How ? partisan [6k\]: agui leave the game and come back ] ;B[fq]C[Akamaru [3d\]: file/set preferences ] ;W[dn] ;B[jp] ;W[qn]C[Creslin [6k\]: Yes it [1d?\]: yes, hi Snaipe [21k\]: yes Hu [6k\]: Hello, sound is clear sneer [3d\]: yes jpladet [13k\]: good evening Akamaru [3d\]: hi=) manakem10 [4k?\]: hi, yes, we can hear Chrille [12k\]: good morning Fabiano [-\]: yes Bodo212 [8k\]: good afternoon - yes sound good Scribe [-\]: Wu vs Kitani Scribe [-\]: 26 December 1941 it [1d?\]: kitani = black? Scribe [-\]: game spanned three days it [1d?\]: thx Scribe [-\]: Kitani is White; Wu is Black it [1d?\]: because of ww2 it [1d?\]: world war Creslin [6k\]: world war Fabiano [-\]: world war Javaness [1d\]: world war 2 ligo [?\]: accident Javaness [1d\]: mrs koichi Fabiano [-\]: izumi? Fabiano [-\]: kobayashi izumi? Scribe [-\]: Kobayashi Koichi student of Kitani Scribe [-\]: married Kitani's daughter Fabiano [-\]: oh, ok seidelin [2k\]: nice Scribe [-\]: Game was scheduled for 23 Decmember, game was delayed several days due to birth of Kitani Reiko agui [4k\]: I've made it 4 timesmes Scribe [-\]: Wu preferred fast fuseki by staking a corner position in one move using either 4x4 or 3x3 moves ] ;B[ql]C[Javaness [1d\]: like fixed placement? ] (;W[qq]C[Scribe [-\]: block at r4 is wrong ] (;B[pq] ;W[qp] ;B[po] ;W[rn]C[Scribe [-\]: this fuseki became very popular in the 1980's particularly with Takemiya ] ;B[om]C[Scribe [-\]: usual for white to enter corner at the 3x3 after the one space pincer ]) (;B[qp]C[Scribe [-\]: wrong direction of play Fabiano [-\]: because k4 AndreAy [2k\]: because of k4 Creslin [6k\]: Because of the K4 stone sneer [3d\]: k4 is crying ] ;W[pq]C[yfh2 [3k?\]: otherwise, K4 less useful ] ;B[op] ;W[rp]C[etl3 [?\]: K4 would be inefficient. ] ;B[ro] ;W[rq] ;B[qo]C[Truc [4k?\]: r8 is too close and low ] ;W[nq]C[VincentV [2k?\]: this side has more aji AndreAy [2k\]: r8 too near AndreAy [2k\]: k4 has no use Akamaru [3d\]: i have seen this in professional game, but r8 at q10 or so then Saradan [4k\]: not using k 4 butterdish: k4 is not useful Akamaru [3d\]: but was different position lower left anyways..:) Scribe [-\]: r8 is good, the problem is that k4 and f3 are out of position Scribe [-\]: can not be used well Scribe [-\]: right side is a small area compared to the bottom ])) (;W[on]C[Scribe [-\]: game ] ;B[np] ;W[pk] (;B[pl]C[wiigii [10k?\]: but if black has the Upper Left corner he can cut? ] (;W[ol] ;B[ok]C[whendrik [-\]: ladder AndreAy [2k\]: ladder for W Fabiano [-\]: r9 Vanya [3k\]: r9 AndreAy [2k\]: p10 egemen [-\]: r3 Fabiano [-\]: seems ok for both ] (;W[qk]C[lgalfaso2 [1d\]: P10 and O8 icebucket [13k\]: great for B :D ] ;B[om] ;W[nl] ;B[pm] ;W[nm] ;B[pn]) (;W[pi]) (;W[oj] ;B[nk]C[AndreAy [2k\]: o8 ] ;W[nl]C[lgalfaso2 [1d\]: then O8 ] ;B[pj] ;W[qk] ;B[qj] ;W[rk] ;B[rl] ;W[rj]C[lgalfaso2 [1d\]: shicho ] (;B[ri]C[etl3 [?\]: ladder? AndreAy [2k\]: r11 ] ;W[qi] ;B[pi] ;W[mk]C[partisan [6k\]: o nice+ Scribe [-\]: ladder works for white ]) (;B[qh]C[Scribe [-\]: due to ladder black can not block white ] ;W[mk]) (;B[qi] ;W[ri] ;B[qh] ;W[rh] ;B[qg]C[Scribe [-\]: best black can do ] ;W[rg] (;B[rf]) (;B[qf] ;W[ml]C[Scribe [-\]: not good for black Scribe [-\]: the three are too big ])))) (;W[qk] ;B[ol]C[wiigii [10k?\]: no Akamaru [3d\]: no, white p8 Akamaru [3d\]: then black r9 wiigii [10k?\]: white blocks then black gets R9 jitsu [4k\]: q8 p8 r9 they meant i think? icebucket [13k\]: wait back. Scribe [-\]: white is split jjermann [5k?\]: Q8 P8 R9 Fabiano [-\]: the other joseki they mean AndreAy [2k\]: no, W p8, B r9 ])) (;B[qo]C[Scribe [-\]: without the ladder black can not play q8 in place of r5 ] (;W[qk]C[AndreAy [2k\]: why not r9 after q8? Scribe [-\]: may pros prefer black in this joseki ] ;B[rn]C[jjermann [5k?\]: I also only know r9 after Q8... ] ;W[qm]C[Scribe [-\]: basic joseki ]) (;W[rn] ;B[pl]C[icebucket [13k\]: here ] (;W[om]C[icebucket [13k\]: W P8 ]) (;W[ol]C[icebucket [13k\]: B R9 ] ;B[qk] (;W[pj] ;B[qj]C[Scribe [-\]: very common joseki ] ;W[pi] ;B[qh] ;W[om]C[Scribe [-\]: pretty even wiigii [10k?\]: this is what we meant... does the R5 S6 exchange need to be played first? jjermann [5k?\]: now black got the big corner _and_ saved the pincer stone? lgalfaso2 [1d\]: do pros prefer b in the other variation even with O4 and not O3? Scribe [-\]: r5/s6 is not mandatory but useful for Black Scribe [-\]: hmmmm...right top corner needs black defense, else white plays the san-san ? seidelin [2k\]: lol sneer [3d\]: haha Javaness [1d\]: no go board ^^ sneer [3d\]: hilarious hikaru834 [-\]: 你好!! ]) (;W[ok]C[etl3 [?\]: whoa ] ;B[pj]C[Scribe [-\]: white connection is kitani style....thick ] ;W[mn] (;B[mo]C[etl3 [?\]: Is White really ok here? Scribe [-\]: o7 is very move by Black Scribe [-\]: severe ] (;W[ln] ;B[nm] (;W[om] ;B[nn]) (;W[nn] ;B[pm]C[AndreAy [2k\]: cool :-) icebucket [13k\]: nice ])) (;W[oq] ;B[op] ;W[qq] ;B[pq] (;W[rp]) (;W[pr] ;B[or] ;W[qr] (;B[nq] ;W[ro]C[Scribe [-\]: best result for white ]) (;B[ro] ;W[nq] ;B[mq] ;W[nr]C[Scribe [-\]: black must split white ] ;B[mr] ;W[os]C[Scribe [-\]: outside white without eye shape, can be attacked ] ;B[ln] ;W[pm] ;B[oj] ;W[lm] (;B[mm] ;W[ml] ;B[nn] ;W[nm] ;B[mn] ;W[mj]) (;B[mj] ;W[ml] ;B[kn] ;W[km]C[etl3 [?\]: F5 matchbox2: k16 Fabiano [-\]: n17 icebucket [13k\]: no top seidelin [2k\]: o7 AndreAy [2k\]: k6 Chachi [3k\]: F16 bbuurman [15k?\]: K7 lgalfaso2 [1d\]: L10 Scribe [-\]: Question? Where should Black play next ? partisan [6k\]: k16 xushibagua [6k\]: n17? nando [-\]: o17 Javaness [1d\]: K16 egemen [-\]: k16 icebucket [13k\]: K16 backpacker [3k\]: K butterdish: L9 backpacker [3k\]: K7 Truc [4k?\]: L10 nicat [2k\]: r16 Inuikun [1k\]: o7 Chrille [12k\]: o7 Scribe [-\]: q17 does not secure the right side. R16 is THE move ] (;B[qd]C[Javaness [1d\]: (^_^) Scribe [-\]: great move icebucket [13k\]: pad on the back. :P partisan [6k\]: ^^ Scribe [-\]: r16 protects both the corner and the right side AndreAy [2k\]: o16 Javaness [1d\]: F17 sneer [3d\]: o15 partisan [6k\]: k17 Fabiano [-\]: j17 EroSennin [4k\]: l17 Baudzo [5k\]: k17 Chachi [3k\]: k17 matchbox2: c10 EroSennin [4k\]: L17 Ogronom [4k\]: o11 bbuurman [15k?\]: F17 mallow [-\]: o13 Inuikun [1k\]: k16 xushibagua [6k\]: tengen ArsMagica [5k\]: o17 backpacker [3k\]: K6 whendrik [-\]: N17 bbuurman [15k?\]: D3 imdark [9k\]: K17. jjermann [5k?\]: H3 backpacker [3k\]: K17 imdark [9k\]: ? seidelin [2k\]: C16 Javaness [1d\]: R11 egemen [-\]: p13?:) hikaru834 [-\]: h4 icebucket [13k\]: G5 Templar [6k?\]: D10 Hu [6k\]: G5 Fabiano [-\]: o16 TotoroShan [2k\]: D3 ] ;W[ri]C[Javaness [1d\]: i was only joking ^^ Truc [4k?\]: wow etl3 [?\]: Wah partisan [6k\]: nice! AndreAy [2k\]: overplay icebucket [13k\]: T9 ] ;B[qj] ;W[ph]C[seidelin [2k\]: great Scribe [-\]: very hard for black to kill this white! ] ;B[nh] ;W[pf]C[CommandoBA [3k\]: s13 ] ;B[rf]C[icebucket [13k\]: W runs out of B S13 ] ;W[nf] (;B[qg] ;W[oh] ;B[qh]C[jjermann [5k?\]: 3rd line territory ^^ ] ;W[md]C[AndreAy [2k\]: Can B not attack and get territory by doing so? partisan [6k\]: is this sabaki? ]) (;B[mc]C[Scribe [-\]: server reduction of black territory nicat [2k\]: can bl sacrifice the 3 stonea after r11? Scribe [-\]: end of first day of play AndreAy [2k\]: an envelope Scribe [-\]: White next move is sealed move Hu [6k\]: sealed move ] ;W[qg]C[Javaness [1d\]: i think it's beter than tournament icebucket [13k\]: When is the book coming out jujo? Javaness [1d\]: Thank you jujo Hu [6k\]: Thank you! Creslin [6k\]: Thank you very much for your time EroSennin [4k\]: thanks alot for the lesson too sneer [3d\]: thank you partisan [6k\]: what book? Snaipe [21k\]: thanks a lot toepk [5k?\]: thank you backpacker [3k\]: Thank you!!!! icebucket [13k\]: alirght thx! Winters [4k\]: thanks bbuurman [15k?\]: thank you ruger [7k\]: thx Akamaru [3d\]: thank you backpacker [3k\]: bye TotoroShan [2k\]: thanks a lot xushibagua [6k\]: thank you whendrik [-\]: Bye Bye Javaness [1d\]: Thank you Ing Foundation jjermann [5k?\]: thank you Akamaru [3d\]: bye xushibagua [6k\]: xie xie sneer [3d\]: bye seidelin [2k\]: thanks octopus [1d\]: thank you jujo, very interesting manakem10 [4k?\]: thank you jjermann [5k?\]: bye sheeryjay [5k\]: thanks Cutrone [6k\]: thank you Javaness [1d\]: bye now Scribe [-\]: Xiexie Jujo Bodo212 [8k\]: thanks - to srcibe too AndreAy [2k\]: thank you Krt [1d\]: thx icebucket [13k\]: :D guest110 [?\]: thx butterdish: thanks jujo hansili [4k\]: thank you ja [4k\]: xie xie Snaipe [21k\]: thanks to scribe AkiraTohya [-\]: thx babukun [2d\]: Thank you and bye Tulipan [6k\]: thx bbuurman [15k?\]: thaks jujo Ogronom [4k\]: thx chrpa [1k\]: thank you icebucket [13k\]: thx and happy Holidays to everone backpacker [3k\]: bye Tulipan [6k\]: bye matchbox2: thx bye etl3 [?\]: bye butterdish: thanks Scribe and Ing foundation too ])) (;B[nc]C[matchbox2: wow ] ;W[rd]) (;B[pc] ;W[qe])))))) (;B[lp]C[Akamaru [3d\]: w won this game:) sneer [3d\]: better follow- up? ] ;W[ph]C[etl3 [?\]: o_o ])))))))