(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2] RU[NZ]SZ[19]KM[7.00]TM[3600]OT[25/600 Canadian] DT[2007-01-07]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[DanielFox [4k\]: 腹 ] (;B[qc] ;W[rc] ;B[rd] ;W[qd] ;B[re] ;W[qe] ;B[qf] ;W[sd] ;B[rf] ;W[pc] ;B[pe] ;W[pd] ;B[oe] ;W[ob] ;B[nb] ;W[oc] ;B[nc] ;W[] ;B[nd] ;W[] ;B[lb]C[grumpfl [6k\]: hi LeStratege [10k\]: hi MRei [1d\]: hi guojuan [5p\]: no audio Asumi [5d?\]: Hello, Happy New Year everyone LeStratege [10k\]: well you to Hu [6k\]: Happy New Year! Audio is good. Asumi [5d?\]: This is a problem with nice tesuji grumpfl [6k\]: sound ok linconnu [2k\]: thx splice [8k\]: happy new year! Bodo212 [8k\]: can hear - good afternoon agui [4k\]: Hello XSpanier [10k\]: i have no soundcard cant hear xD Asumi [5d?\]: exit game and enter again Asumi [5d?\]: ah, sorry, no car :( Asumi [5d?\]: card* XSpanier [10k\]: silence is golden xD Asumi [5d?\]: while waiting, see Guo Juan's book: http://img172.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=80439_DSCF1628_small_122_371lo.JPG gomasch [2d\]: r18 Asumi [5d?\]: W dies Dakre [2d?\]: W dies Dakre [2d?\]: i agree with r18 ;) mandark [1d\]: w alive seidelin [2k\]: ko Budzoli: r18 i believe LPDavid [6k\]: R18, W S18, black Q19 kill i think Asumi [5d?\]: sorry, one may think I shouldn't kibitz, but 'm not 5d, I just was lucky to beat a 4d ;) MRei [1d\]: how about s18? ] ;W[]C[Asumi [5d?\]: is there a chinese term for T18 tesuji? Asumi [5d?\]: it appears in many problems ] (;B[qb]C[Kamisama [5k\]: who's turn Asumi [5d?\]: R18 ] ;W[rb]C[Dakre [2d?\]: r19 for black in answer to s18 now Asumi [5d?\]: R19 ligo [?\]: q19 LeStratege [10k\]: if w s19 ? ] (;B[qa]C[Asumi [5d?\]: again an odd 2-1 point behaviour :) ] (;W[pa]C[Dakre [2d?\]: t18 JiT [7k\]: T17 andree [8k\]: t17 ko? ] (;B[sc] ;W[sb]C[MRei [1d\]: t18 ] ;B[ra] ;W[pb]C[LeStratege [10k\]: t15 ]) (;B[se] ;W[sb]C[LeStratege [10k\]: after t17 ]) (;B[sb]C[kiyosumi [2d\]: ko Asumi [5d?\]: W dies Dakre [2d?\]: w dies Asumi [5d?\]: yea Asumi [5d?\]: can't atari Asumi [5d?\]: from either side mandark [1d\]: seki andree [8k\]: s19 Asumi [5d?\]: W t17 ruger [6k\]: ws19 Asumi [5d?\]: B atari andree [8k\]: for black Dakre [2d?\]: w dead :) Plunder [4k\]: dead gomasch [2d\]: b needs ko probably ] (;W[ra]C[sprang [-\]: white T19? ] ;B[sc]) (;W[sc]C[ParrotHead [7k\]: 1 eye Asumi [5d?\]: T15 Plunder [4k\]: T15 kiyosumi [2d\]: s19 kiyosumi [2d\]: o AndreyL [3k\]: t15 linconnu [2k\]: s19 xue [6k\]: T15 Kangur [-\]: T15 Asumi [5d?\]: T15, then P16 ] (;B[ra]C[MysticoN [3d\]: b can kill ] ;W[sa]C[Asumi [5d?\]: T15 and P16 then Asumi [5d?\]: no ]) (;B[se] ;W[sa] ;B[od]C[Asumi [5d?\]: damezumari linconnu [2k\]: no ])))) (;W[ra]C[Asumi [5d?\]: T18 ] ;B[sb]) (;W[pb]C[xue [6k\]: P19 xue [6k\]: oops xue [6k\]: sorry >__< Asumi [5d?\]: again the same idea ] (;B[oa] ;W[ra]) (;B[sb]C[Asumi [5d?\]: T18 ] ;W[sc] ;B[se] ;W[sa] ;B[od]))) (;B[pa]C[ligo [?\]: q19 bad Ten [6d\]: R19 for me, too ] (;W[pb]) (;W[oa] ;B[na]))) (;B[rb] ;W[qb] ;B[sb] ;W[sc]) (;B[pa] (;W[oa] ;B[qb] ;W[rb] ;B[od]) (;W[qb] ;B[oa] ;W[qa]))) (;B[pd] ;W[dp] ;B[qp]C[Asumi [5d?\]: two 5 dans ] ;W[dc]C[celotaped [5k\]: as usual ^^ titoom [-\]: 5p or 5d ? ] ;B[fq]C[celotaped [5k\]: 5d titoom [-\]: ok ] ;W[hq] ;B[oq] ;W[qj] ;B[de] (;W[gd] ;B[cc] ;W[cb] ;B[cd] ;W[eb] ;B[ci]LB[fd:A][gd:B]C[agui [4k\]: better for white hansb [1k?\]: harder for white to invade maltar [4k\]: why is e18 necessary JiT [7k\]: territory oriented vs attack sprang [-\]: B leaves more aji behind MysticoN [3d\]: leaves aji for later agui [4k\]: no more territory but expands faster ] ;W[ck]C[xushibagua [5k\]: c11 at v12? Jadeite [-\]: no titoom [-\]: f16 instead od g16 ? xushibagua [5k\]: c12 agui [4k\]: perhaps no MysticoN [3d\]: yes agui [4k\]: yes JiT [7k\]: no ;) xushibagua [5k\]: yes Budzoli: yes xue [6k\]: yes Creslin [5k\]: Why white does not respond F18 against F17? titoom [-\]: what means a sunday move please ? ] (;B[] ;W[cg] ;B[ed] (;W[eg] ;B[fc] ;W[gc] ;B[fb] ;W[gb] ;B[ea] ;W[bc] ;B[ba]) (;W[fc] ;B[dh] ;W[dg] ;B[eg] ;W[bi] ;B[bj] ;W[bh] ;B[cj] ;W[ef] ;B[df] ;W[be] ;B[ff])) (;B[ei]C[linconnu [2k\]: no MRei [1d\]: no ] ;W[cn] (;B[ed] ;W[fc]TR[ed][ei]) (;B[ql] ;W[qf] ;B[nc] ;W[rd] ;B[qh] ;W[of]C[agui [4k\]: S12 ] (;B[qc] ;W[pi]LB[lc:A] ;B[jq] ;W[dq]LB[lc:A] (;B[ic]LB[bb:D][gc:C][kc:B][lc:A][ed:F][oo:E]C[xushibagua [5k\]: too far? agui [4k\]: M17 MysticoN [3d\]: seems sente linconnu [2k\]: m17 ? ligo [?\]: h4 Kamisama [5k\]: m17 JiT [7k\]: w L17 hansb [1k?\]: G17? maltar [4k\]: b k17 Creslin [5k\]: B18? MysticoN [3d\]: g17 seems slow .. but protect weakness seidelin [2k\]: P5 bun: e16 Budzoli: b18 what the.... Hallo [4k\]: l17 xushibagua [5k\]: A Kamisama [5k\]: wrong moment to attack seidelin :/ ouigkmy [7k\]: k5? maltar [4k\]: h17 gomasch [2d\]: n16? ruger [6k\]: h17 Javaness [1d\]: N17 MRei [1d\]: a celotaped [5k\]: k16 MysticoN [3d\]: becuase of f17 xue [6k\]: P5?? ] (;W[lc]C[JiT [7k\]: B L16 ? ] ;B[ne]C[agui [4k\]: no ] ;W[jd] ;B[id] ;W[ie] ;B[jc] ;W[kd] ;B[gb] ;W[gc] ;B[he] ;W[hd] ;B[hb]) (;W[kc] ;B[ie]) (;W[gc]) (;W[ed]) (;W[] (;B[fc] ;W[gc] ;B[fb] ;W[gb]C[xushibagua [5k\]: c or f make g16 very bad move MysticoN [3d\]: ah MysticoN [3d\]: missread :( ]) (;B[gb] ;W[gc]) (;B[]C[Creslin [5k\]: g4? ] (;W[lc]) (;W[oo]) (;W[gp]TR[fq][hq]))) (;W[gp]LB[lq:A]TR[jq]C[hansili [3k\]: urgent move Zelda23 [6k\]: but how to atack J17 stone? sprang [-\]: no, thanks for explaining hansili [3k\]: white still has A ] ;B[jo] ;W[oo]LB[jo:B][gp:A]) (;W[ip] ;B[jp] ;W[io] ;B[kn]) (;W[id] (;B[jd] (;W[ie] ;B[hc] ;W[gc] ;B[gp]LB[lc:A][gp:B]TR[gc][hc][ic][id][jd][ie]) (;W[hd] ;B[kc])) (;B[hc] (;W[gp]) (;W[gc] (;B[jd] ;W[hd] ;B[jc] ;W[gp]LB[qc:C][gd:B][ei:A][pi:D][gp:E]C[seidelin [2k\]: no sufi [6k?\]: no sprang [-\]: no, thanks Bodo212 [8k\]: thx ]) (;B[hd] ;W[he] ;B[jd] ;W[ie] ;B[jc]LB[ge:A])) (;W[hd] ;B[gc] ;W[fd] ;B[kc] ;W[gp])))) (;B[ph] ;W[oh] ;B[oi] ;W[nh] ;B[oj] ;W[qi] (;B[qk]) (;B[pk] ;W[oo]))) (;B[pi] ;W[qc] ;B[kc]C[xushibagua [5k\]: this way linconnu [2k\]: this one MysticoN [3d\]: I like this one yithril [1k\]: i like this one too ]))) (;B[fo]C[xushibagua [5k\]: c6 ])) (;W[fd] ;B[cc] ;W[cb] ;B[cd] ;W[eb] ;B[ci]C[Creslin [5k\]: W tries to take more territory ])) (;B[rb] (;W[qb]) (;W[rc] ;B[qc] ;W[sd] ;B[qb] ;W[qd] ;B[pd] ;W[qe] ;B[pe] ;W[rf] ;B[pf] ;W[qg] ;B[pg] ;W[rh] ;B[qh] ;W[sh] ;B[qi] ;W[] ;B[ri] ;W[] ;B[si]C[Asumi [5d?\]: xiexie ni, laoshi Creslin [5k\]: Thank you very much sufi [6k?\]: thank yuo Teacher titoom [-\]: thanks sprang [-\]: thanks! DanielFox [4k\]: thanks guojuan [5p\]: thanks mingjiu kiyosumi [2d\]: thx BigElefant [10k\]: thanks Wingz8718 [18k?\]: thankz Soul [4k\]: thank you xue [6k\]: xiexie Plunder [4k\]: thanks Ogronom [5k\]: thanks MRei [1d\]: thank you Walas [3k\]: thanks maltar [4k\]: thank you ruger [6k\]: thank you zeko [8k\]: thank you very much linconnu [2k\]: thx wsstadium2 [5k\]: xiexie LPDavid [6k\]: Thanks you bun: tx dangos [?\]: thx galaxie [18k\]: thank you splice [8k\]: thank you guojuan [5p\]: I am here YohAsakura [17k\]: thanks maltar [4k\]: bye titoom [-\]: see you gomasch [2d\]: thanks ])))