(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1800]OT[5x30 byo-yomi] DT[2007-01-14]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/] ;B[qd] ;W[pp]C[ZCXVas: hi ] ;B[dq] ;W[nd] ;B[oc] ;W[dn] (;B[co]) (;B[fp] ;W[dc] ;B[od] ;W[ne] ;B[oe] ;W[nf] ;B[nc] ;W[cf] ;B[ic] ;W[gc] ;B[kc] ;W[cp] ;B[cq] ;W[ck] ;B[of] ;W[qj] ;B[ng] ;W[qm] ;B[jq] ;W[oq] ;B[mq] ;W[mg] ;B[mh] ;W[nh] ;B[og] (;W[lg]) (;W[jd] ;B[id] ;W[lg] ;B[mi] ;W[jg]C[CcB [6k\]: hi ] ;B[bp]C[danettte [2k\]: hi ] ;W[ip] ;B[jp] ;W[io]C[manakem10 [1k?\]: hello, no audio? ] ;B[iq] ;W[gp] ;B[gq] ;W[go] ;B[fq]C[ZCXVas: setting up ] ;W[oj] ;B[oi] ;W[nj] ;B[ni]C[manakem10 [1k?\]: ok, thx ] ;W[kd] ;B[lc] ;W[co] ;B[qh] ;W[gg] ;B[gi] ;W[jj]C[danettte [2k\]: who s white ? ] ;B[dk] ;W[dj] ;B[cj]C[Scribe [-\]: Jujo is setting up the game...once he is finished there will be audio ] ;W[ek] ;B[dl] ;W[cl] ;B[ej] ;W[di] ;B[el] ;W[fk] ;B[fl] ;W[gk] ;B[gl] ;W[hk] ;B[cm] ;W[bj] ;B[ci] ;W[ch] ;B[bk] ;W[bi] ;B[bl] ;W[hl] ;B[fo] ;W[fn] ;B[en] ;W[cj] ;B[dm] ;W[gm] ;B[hm] ;W[eo] ;B[em] ;W[bo] ;B[bq] ;W[hb] ;B[ib] ;W[he] ;B[ie] ;W[hf] ;B[kh] ;W[kg] ;B[qq] ;W[qp] ;B[qn] ;W[rn] ;B[qk] ;W[rj] ;B[ro] ;W[pn] ;B[pj] ;W[pk] ;B[pi] ;W[qo] ;B[rk] ;W[ki] ;B[rl] ;W[ql] ;B[or] ;W[nr] ;B[pr] ;W[nq] ;B[rr] ;W[rp] ;B[rq]C[shindou01 [9k\]: YO ZCXVas: hello yayoyi [1k\]: hi :) shindou01 [9k\]: yes ZCXVas: yes maltar [4k\]: yes Inui [8k\]: yes:D fab [-\]: hello etl3 [?\]: Morning. Bodo212 [8k\]: good afternoon - can hear Scribe [-\]: Nihao Jujo Laoshi agui [4k\]: Hello zierzo [3k\]: hi shindou01 [9k\]: must be some kind of pro game shindou01 [9k\]: just a guess fab [-\]: Go Seigen vs Kitani shindou01 [9k\]: is fab right ? Scribe [-\]: Wu ChingYuan plays Black Scribe [-\]: Wu's first jubango, first game Scribe [-\]: White is Kitani Scribe [-\]: 1938 September....not the second jubango ? the first was in 1933-34 ? Scribe [-\]: 1939 September shindou01 [9k\]: there was no handi so they must be at the same rank i guess Scribe [-\]: not the second jubango ? the first was in 1933-34 ? Scribe [-\]: jubango started in 1933 lasted only 6 games, three wins each. discontinuted after Kitani promoted to 6-dan fab [-\]: Scribe : the correct chinese name is Wu Qing Yuan (aka Go Seigen) Scribe [-\]: Wu QingYuan....(sorry my error) Scribe [-\]: In the 1939-40 jubango...all ten games were completed Scribe [-\]: ju == japanese for 10 Scribe [-\]: this is the position on the third day. no komi ] (;W[ri] (;B[rh]C[Scribe [-\]: White is slightly favored ]) (;B[ok] ;W[pl] ;B[rh] ;W[kn]C[windupbird [4d\]: s11 the sealed move?^_^ ])) (;W[sh]C[Scribe [-\]: white t12 is not correct, there is a better move OketsuPRO [?\]: s13 etl3 [?\]: S11? ] (;B[sg] ;W[si] ;B[rg]C[Scribe [-\]: two point difference compared to s11 sequence ]) (;B[rg]C[fab [-\]: T10 ? ] ;W[si]) (;B[sj]C[etl3 [?\]: Ahh ] (;W[ri] ;B[rh] ;W[sg] ;B[qi]C[Pascal [2k\]: ko ] ;W[si] ;B[sf]C[etl3 [?\]: noko ]) (;W[si] ;B[sl]C[Scribe [-\]: t10 is an excellent move etl3 [?\]: oh, that ko? ] ;W[sk] ;B[fb] ;W[gb]C[Pascal [2k\]: yes ] ;B[sj] ;W[ri] ;B[rh]C[etl3 [?\]: nevermind, then ] ;W[sg] ;B[rg] ;W[sf] ;B[rf] (;W[sk] ;B[qi] ;W[se] ;B[sd]) (;W[sd] ;B[re] ;W[se] ;B[rd] (;W[rc] ;B[rb] ;W[qc] ;B[qb] ;W[pc] ;B[sb] ;W[sc] ;B[pb] ;W[rm] ;B[ok] ;W[pl] (;B[sk] ;W[cc]) (;B[pd] ;W[sk] ;B[cc]C[Reiter [2k\]: who is playing? Pascal [2k\]: the ko is big dal [-\]: Wu and Kitani Reiter [2k\]: ranks? Pascal [2k\]: professional Reiter [2k\]: ..... Reiter [2k\]: that i know dal [-\]: well Go Seigen was 5p at this time I guess.. Reiter [2k\]: ok ill just enjoy the game ] (;W[db] ;B[sj] ;W[sq]C[Scribe [-\]: white loss in corner is greater the black loss in ko ] ;B[sr] ;W[sk] ;B[cb]C[Pascal [2k\]: t7 Scribe [-\]: Wu spent 30 minutes evaluating this position Reiter [2k\]: very messy game ] ;W[sm]C[Reiter [2k\]: they didnt continue the game? Intake [1d\]: funny story Jadeite [-\]: newspapers don't change much :) Reiter [2k\]: who won in the end? ] (;B[dd]C[Scribe [-\]: game very close....little better for Black Scribe [-\]: Black can live in the upper left using the outside hane of d16 ] (;W[cd] (;B[ec] ;W[ed] ;B[de] ;W[eb] ;B[ce] ;W[be] ;B[bd] ;W[bf]C[Scribe [-\]: Black dies ]) (;B[ce] (;W[bd] ;B[be] ;W[de] ;B[ed] ;W[bc] ;B[bb]C[Scribe [-\]: Best move for Black is this sequence ] ;W[bf] ;B[ac] ;W[ae] ;B[eb]C[Pascal [2k\]: like the oder one ]) (;W[be] ;B[bd] ;W[bf] ;B[ec]C[Scribe [-\]: again black lives ]))) (;W[ed] (;B[cd] ;W[be]) (;B[ce] ;W[be] ;B[bd]C[Reiter [2k\]: white win didnt he? ] ;W[bf]C[windupbird [4d\]: ko? Reiter [2k\]: won* etl3 [?\]: L group is dead ] (;B[ab] ;W[ba]C[etl3 [?\]: L group cannot be saved ]) (;B[bb] ;W[ac] ;B[ad] ;W[ca] ;B[ba] ;W[ab]) (;B[ad] ;W[ca] ;B[ba] ;W[ab])) (;B[bd] ;W[be]) (;B[be]C[Scribe [-\]: Black must not connect solid at c16 or at c15 or at b16...both Black moves die Blackstorm [3k?\]: 15 b is the basic Reiter [2k\]: it didnt go that way do ] (;W[ce] ;B[cd] ;W[bf] ;B[da] ;W[ec] ;B[ad]C[Scribe [-\]: b15 is only choice, black needs more room to live in the corner etl3 [?\]: ko ] ;W[ca] (;B[ba]C[etl3 [?\]: oh, wait, that's alive ] ;W[ab]C[etl3 [?\]: right ]) (;B[bb] ;W[af] ;B[ac]C[Scribe [-\]: Lives etl3 [?\]: alive ])) (;W[bf]C[Reiter [2k\]: did it? ] ;B[ce]C[Scribe [-\]: also alive ]) (;W[cd]C[Reiter [2k\]: yeah ] ;B[bd] ;W[ce] ;B[bb] ;W[ab]C[Reiter [2k\]: thats more reasonable isnt it? ] ;B[ca]C[Scribe [-\]: black lived... ] ;W[da] ;B[bf] ;W[ac] ;B[ad] ;W[bg] ;B[af]C[Scribe [-\]: same basic shape as lower right when black turns at b18 ] ;W[ld] ;B[md] ;W[me] ;B[mc] ;W[ke] ;B[mr] ;W[ms] ;B[ls] ;W[ns] ;B[lr]C[Scribe [-\]: White n9 is small ] ;W[mk]C[Reiter [2k\]: l10 ] ;B[kj]C[Reiter [2k\]: :DDDDDDDDD ] ;W[lj] ;B[kk]C[Scribe [-\]: White n9 is wrong move Reiter [2k\]: kidding i have the game :P ] ;W[li] ;B[lh] ;W[jh] ;B[kn] ;W[jn]C[Scribe [-\]: Black expected two win by 2 or 3 points given correct play ] (;B[km] ;W[ko] ;B[jo] (;W[lo] ;B[in]) (;W[jm] ;B[lo])) (;B[jo]C[Scribe [-\]: Black played k5 first ] (;W[km] ;B[jm]C[Reiter [2k\]: j7 Reiter [2k\]: would be ko there ] (;W[in] (;B[im]) (;B[lm]C[etl3 [?\]: White has L5 ] ;W[kl]C[Reiter [2k\]: yeah big mistake ] ;B[ll] ;W[jl]C[Reiter [2k\]: where will white die? ] (;B[lk]) (;B[jk] ;W[il] ;B[lk]C[etl3 [?\]: M9 is sente ] ;W[mj] ;B[mn] ;W[ik]))) (;W[im] ;B[in]C[Reiter [2k\]: lol i ahve the game :D Reiter [2k\]: have* windupbird [4d\]: m6? ] ;W[bm] ;B[bn] ;W[am]C[Reiter [2k\]: yes ] ;B[an] ;W[cn]C[Reiter [2k\]: eye stealling ] ;B[al] ;W[bm] ;B[am] ;W[hn] (;B[lm]C[etl3 [?\]: Ahhhh ] ;W[fm]) (;B[ep] ;W[jn]C[Principe [6k\]: wowo Scribe [-\]: but after White plays double hane at L7 Principe [6k\]: wow* ] ;B[de] ;W[ec] ;B[in]C[Reiter [2k\]: thats so nice speaking1 [7k\]: oooooooh ] ;W[os] ;B[ps] ;W[jn] ;B[cg] ;W[dg]C[Scribe [-\]: white capture at h6 is sente after squeeze on left edge ] (;B[pq] ;W[rs]) (;B[in] ;W[pq] ;B[rs] ;W[jn]C[Pascal [2k\]: no ] ;B[mj] ;W[lk]C[Pascal [2k\]: s1 is better ] ;B[in]C[Pascal [2k\]: no? ] ;W[qr] ;B[qs] ;W[jn] ;B[nk] ;W[ln] ;B[in] ;W[ba] ;B[bc] ;W[jn] ;B[hd] ;W[gd] ;B[in]C[Pascal [2k\]: i is the same ;-p ] ;W[ag] ;B[aa] ;W[jn] ;B[ko] ;W[jl]C[etl3 [?\]: wow.. Reiter [2k\]: j14 Scribe [-\]: White wins the ko Scribe [-\]: White ahead by two points on the board Kerrick [8k\]: movie? Kerrick [8k\]: was it "the go player"? Jadeite [-\]: is the Wu film finished ? Scribe [-\]: Game latest till nearly midnight on the second day SJC [10k\]: yea wu qing yuan? Scribe [-\]: third day Reiter [2k\]: im prity sure that if there wil ever be a go movie its going to be shibumi Scribe [-\]: Xiexie Jujo Laoshi etl3 [?\]: Xie Xie Zhujiu Laoshi Reiter [2k\]: thanks! Scribe [-\]: Thanks to the Ing Goe Foundation OketsuPRO [?\]: thx sufi [6k?\]: thank yu ofor your expert review of this famous game Bodo212 [8k\]: thx to you Principe [6k\]: thx au2 [1d\]: Thank you for the lecture TotoroShan [1k\]: thanks to you krynn [9k\]: thank you! Asumi [5d?\]: xiexie ni Reiter [2k\]: bye kiyosumi [2d\]: thank you agui [4k\]: Thanks TCHATTE [3k\]: thank you Jadeite [-\]: thank you Jujo :) au2 [1d\]: THANKS TO ING FOUNDATION Winters [4k\]: thanks au2 [1d\]: bye bye agui [4k\]: bye emot [3k?\]: Mainichi Shinbun. the newspaper comp. sponsoring today's IGS TCHATTE [3k\]: bye Asumi [5d?\]: zai jian butterdish: bye - thank you SJC [10k\]: jujo laoshi, xia xia ni moodam: Thank you emot [3k?\]: bye ])))) (;W[jm] ;B[km])))))) (;B[cd] ;W[be])) (;W[sm] ;B[db]))) (;W[sb] ;B[rc] ;W[sc] ;B[rb]))))))))