(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1800]OT[5x30 byo-yomi] DT[2007-03-04]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[derPlumps [5k\]: hello mister professional derPlumps [5k\]: no audio yet derPlumps [5k\]: da kann ich endlich mal aufs klo Scribe [-\]: Nihao Zhang Zhujiu Laoshi TomoyoHime [2k\]: morning onion80 [6k\]: oui NinBo [-\]: hi yes ligo [?\]: hi thoel [?\]: yes, good morning Student89 [6k\]: hi TomoyoHime [2k\]: ^-^ Loud n clear SimonM [4k\]: hi BokeGaeru [?\]: yes we can BlueOcean [2d\]: good morning coudi20: yes Launchpad [?\]: yes ligo [?\]: super Student89 [6k\]: yes JiT [7k\]: ok 4 voice mariosbank [5k\]: Ni Hao Jujo!!! Scribe [-\]: 1951 October game hansb [1d?\]: iwamoto smudge [6k\]: Sakata coudi20: kitani? BlueOcean [2d\]: takagawa ligo [?\]: shuko hansb [1d?\]: hashimoto Scribe [-\]: Between Wu Qingyuan and Segoe Kensaku derPlumps [5k\]: das intressiert doch keine sau :) Scribe [-\]: Hosai ligo [?\]: kuran... Scribe [-\]: Between Wu Qingyuan and Fujisawa Hosai sajmon [2k\]: what is naidan? Jadeite [16k?\]: 2 dan sajmon [2k\]: oh coudi20: 9 dan Jadeite [16k?\]: oh maybe not ligo [?\]: 9 dan sajmon [2k\]: okay Scribe [-\]: two year negotiations prior to this match ] ;B[qd]C[Scribe [-\]: jubango game ] ;W[dc] ;B[pq] ;W[dq] ;B[od] (;W[qn]C[Scribe [-\]: today this pincer (r8) would be the way to play...black can create moyo on right/right top ] (;B[qp]C[Scribe [-\]: r6 is a rare move at that time ] ;W[qk]C[Scribe [-\]: however it was favored by Wu at this time Scribe [-\]: Black territory bigger than White in lower right, but whole board with black p16....p16 is not working well Scribe [-\]: p16 should be creating influence on right side, but white will settle there ] ;B[ce] ;W[dh] ;B[co] ;W[cl] (;B[dl] (;W[cm]C[Scribe [-\]: good for black in variation ] ;B[dm] ;W[dn]C[Scribe [-\]: this hane is hard on black ] (;B[ep] ;W[cn]C[Scribe [-\]: real game ] ;B[do] ;W[en] ;B[eq]C[Scribe [-\]: black takes corner and lets go of the side Scribe [-\]: result favors white a little mariosbank [5k\]: w corner look dead though Scribe [-\]: black has lost two stones Scribe [-\]: white lost one stone ] (;W[cd] ;B[gq] ;W[de] (;B[qi] ;W[jc]C[Scribe [-\]: right side smaller than the top Scribe [-\]: white has better game aaronaaron [10k\]: hi jujo Javaness [1d\]: oh ^^; TomoyoHime [2k\]: n b has 3 corners Scribe [-\]: no komi in jubango....lack of komi makes this okay for black mariosbank [5k\]: that problably changes the game- no komi ] (;B[ie]C[Scribe [-\]: must reduce ] ;W[mc] ;B[ld] (;W[je] ;B[lc] ;W[kf]C[aaronaaron [10k\]: who has lead mariosbank [5k\]: 13 hours! game problably 3 day game Scribe [-\]: game started at 8:30 each day, played till 5:00pm and one hour for lunch Scribe [-\]: sealed move at the end of each day Scribe [-\]: 13 hour game Scribe [-\]: three days Scribe [-\]: this is the position at the end of the first day ] (;B[dj]C[Javaness [1d\]: i think 13hour game is a bit boring ] ;W[mf] (;B[ne] ;W[fi]C[TomoyoHime [2k\]: hi jujo TomoyoHime [2k\]: w is big Scribe [-\]: white seeks to attack the three black stones TomoyoHime [2k\]: att while building moyo kakineko [14k\]: ouch Scribe [-\]: not a good direction of play for black ] ;B[fl] ;W[fm] ;B[ek] ;W[hp] (;B[hq] ;W[ip] (;B[iq] ;W[ck] (;B[jp]C[Scribe [-\]: 78 minutes by black considering this move ] ;W[jo] ;B[kp] ;W[hl] (;B[hi] ;W[gj]C[Scribe [-\]: in Seoul ] ;B[eh]C[Scribe [-\]: very difficult fighting Scribe [-\]: hard for Black ] ;W[ei] ;B[dg]C[Scribe [-\]: White can split Black and kill one group ] (;W[fh]C[Scribe [-\]: Black sacrificed ] ;B[eg] ;W[fg] (;B[di] ;W[ch] ;B[cg] ;W[bh]) (;B[ch] ;W[di] ;B[ee] ;W[cf] ;B[cg] ;W[be]) (;B[ee] ;W[ff] ;B[ef] ;W[ch]C[Scribe [-\]: actual game ] ;B[ed] ;W[dd] ;B[id] ;W[jd] (;B[gd] ;W[fb] ;B[ig] ;W[jh]C[mariosbank [5k\]: again hard for b Scribe [-\]: still hard for Black TomoyoHime [2k\]: w nice Scribe [-\]: hard to live ]) (;B[ec] (;W[db] ;B[ic]) (;W[gd]C[Scribe [-\]: Black seeks sente connection between E and J stones Scribe [-\]: Again White moves to cut Black Scribe [-\]: last move of the second day Scribe [-\]: Black thinks for 70 minutes on this sealed move gomasch [2d\]: really a full time job :) pel [3k\]: the pressure of losing a long game like this must be maddening coudi20: had to make a living (group ;-)) ] ;B[ge] ;W[fe] ;B[db] ;W[cb] ;B[fb] ;W[hb]C[Asumi [5d?\]: I wonder if Sai could turn this game around as B ;) Scribe [-\]: Again White seeks to kill Black group TomoyoHime [2k\]: lol ] (;B[bc]C[pel [3k\]: painfull to watch ] (;W[bb]C[SJC [10k\]: >< ] ;B[bd] ;W[be] ;B[cf]) (;W[bd] ;B[bb] ;W[da] ;B[eb] ;W[cc]C[kakineko [14k\]: mm... ] ;B[cf] ;W[ba] ;B[ab]C[gomasch [2d\]: (who was black again?) ] ;W[ad] ;B[ib] ;W[ic] ;B[gb] ;W[ha] ;B[bg] ;W[bh] ;B[be] ;W[ae] (;B[gc] ;W[hc] ;B[ql]C[Scribe [-\]: Black resigns kakineko [14k\]: Question. Why didn't black play at A14? ] ;W[fd]C[Scribe [-\]: actual game BlueOcean [2d\]: fujisawa hosai gomasch [2d\]: (thx) derPlumps [5k\]: lol ]) (;B[af]C[Luanda [7k\]: caused of c13 after it ? ] ;W[cg] ;B[df] ;W[ea] ;B[fa] ;W[gc]C[TomoyoHime [2k\]: ^-^ kakineko [14k\]: (O.O)!!! Scribe [-\]: Homework: Figure out the proper move for Black Asumi [5d?\]: A17??? Pasukaru [1k\]: yes a17 :) pasky [8k\]: I've been thinking about a17 as well, but.. Asumi [5d?\]: of course not gomasch [2d\]: b11? derPlumps [5k\]: cut d11 ? pasky [8k\]: b11 d11? kakineko [14k\]: Thank you!!. And good luck Jujo Scribe [-\]: Xiexie Laoshi TomoyoHime [2k\]: thank you for teaching Jadeite [16k?\]: thanks Jujo, and Ing foundation :) pel [3k\]: :) gomu2 [5k\]: thanksss BlueOcean [2d\]: thank you Alenchon [8k\]: thank you Teacher Asumi [5d?\]: xiexie jujo laoshi Javaness [1d\]: thank you jujo NinBo [-\]: thank you very much kakineko [14k\]: >.< thoel [?\]: thank you Scribe [-\]: Thanks to the Ing Goe Foundation reed338 [-\]: good luck with your game lupis [4k\]: thx and see you next time. pel [3k\]: thank you :) Luanda [7k\]: thank you Jujo gomu2 [5k\]: thanks lao shi TomoyoHime [2k\]: cya Javaness [1d\]: byebye pasky [8k\]: thanks, bye aNduri1 [9k\]: thanks for the lesson SJC [10k\]: bye! foxxdan [22k?\]: thx cya foyle [2k\]: thanx Sabai [5k\]: thx agui [4k\]: Thank you very much ] ;B[ca] ;W[da] ;B[ea]C[kakineko [14k\]: major ko ] ;W[ca]C[SJC [10k\]: fake eye kakineko [14k\]: ko to kill white ])) (;W[be] ;B[bb] ;W[cc] ;B[bd] ;W[cf] (;B[ca] ;W[gb]) (;B[gc] ;W[hc] ;B[fd] ;W[hd] ;B[ca]C[kakineko [14k\]: live ]))) (;B[bd] ;W[be] ;B[bc] ;W[cf]) (;B[cf] ;W[bc]))))) (;W[ch] ;B[ee])) (;B[gj] ;W[gi] ;B[hj] ;W[fj]C[Scribe [-\]: Korean Hangug Kiwon ] ;B[gk]C[BlueOcean [2d\]: have a good game ] ;W[ih] ;B[jj] ;W[lj]C[Scribe [-\]: Zhujiu your games are Chinese City League games ? ])) (;B[hl] ;W[jp]C[Scribe [-\]: demo of leaning attack by white against black stones on the bottom aiming at center black stones ])) (;B[hl] ;W[iq] ;B[jl]C[Scribe [-\]: white can live in corner so black must push along the bottom ] ;W[bq] ;B[bp] ;W[er]C[Scribe [-\]: now ko for live ] (;B[fr] ;W[cr]) (;B[cr] ;W[fr] ;B[dr] ;W[fq] ;B[fp] ;W[gp]C[Javaness [1d\]: ouch :< mariosbank [5k\]: wo kakineko [14k\]: <.< nice Scribe [-\]: cant lose these two stones/....too big ]))) (;B[hl] ;W[hq])) (;B[oi] ;W[md])) (;B[ig]C[kakineko [14k\]: Go seigen vs Fujisawa Hosai in 1951? ]) (;B[id] ;W[jd] ;B[if]C[Scribe [-\]: top is more important than the left side ] ;W[hb] ;B[ic] ;W[ib] ;B[kb]C[Scribe [-\]: top is greater reduction of white than the left side moves ])) (;W[lc] ;B[ic] ;W[ib] ;B[jd] ;W[kc] ;B[hc]C[Scribe [-\]: black plan ])) (;B[lc] ;W[je])) (;B[jc]C[Javaness [1d\]: is R11 no good for black? Scribe [-\]: biggest move ] ;W[qh] ;B[gc])) (;W[bq] ;B[bp]C[Scribe [-\]: white has aji ] ;W[er] ;B[fr]C[Scribe [-\]: to live ] ;W[cr])) (;B[cn] ;W[do] ;B[ck] ;W[bk] ;B[cp] ;W[dp] ;B[cj] ;W[bn] ;B[bo] ;W[bm] ;B[cq] ;W[dk] ;B[ek] ;W[dj] ;B[ci] ;W[ej]C[Scribe [-\]: balck can live in corner but white has this cut at d9 ] ;B[fl] ;W[ch] ;B[bj] (;W[al] ;B[bh] ;W[an] ;B[dr]C[Scribe [-\]: both white and black live on side ] ;W[er] ;B[br] ;W[ds] ;B[cr] ;W[fm] ;B[gl] (;W[en]) (;W[gj] ;B[cg] ;W[ik])) (;W[di] ;B[ak] ;W[bl] ;B[bh] (;W[bg] ;B[an]) (;W[ai] (;B[bi] ;W[bg]) (;B[ah] ;W[bg] ;B[an] ;W[ag] ;B[am]C[Scribe [-\]: drop two stones get big cutting white stones ]))))) (;W[dk]C[Scribe [-\]: the top is big ] ;B[cm])) (;B[gc]C[Scribe [-\]: more common moves begin with Black g17...better ] ;W[cd] (;B[kc]) (;B[jc] ;W[de]))) (;B[ql] ;W[qq] ;B[qp] ;W[pp] ;B[rq] ;W[qr] ;B[po] ;W[op] ;B[qo] ;W[rr] ;B[no] ;W[oo] ;B[on] ;W[oq] ;B[pn])) (;W[qo]))