(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[0.00] PW[White]PB[Black]DT[2007-04-22]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[yithril [1d\]: yay guo juan Folamour [2k\]: hello ! agui [4k\]: Hello pelister [13k\]: hi Asumi [5d?\]: Ni hao Shana [5k\]: helloo~ MrShintou [-\]: Hello Guo Juan!! gofanatik [14k?\]: hello thinktwice [?\]: hi Codexus [6k\]: hello! Folamour [2k\]: fine Scribe [-\]: Hello Guo Juan Laoshi IamNoob [14k\]: see us? Baalza [2k\]: hi jpladet [11k\]: hello Scribe [-\]: Ni hao Bodo212 [8k\]: hello Scribe [-\]: Nihao! Batavia [5k\]: howdy petro [1k\]: or race to the stake? Ranout: how do you keep motivated for making goood moves? ] (;B[pd]C[Asumi [5d?\]: never use principle: first cut, than think ] ;W[dc] ;B[pp]C[Scribe [-\]: Game two 4k on KGS ] ;W[eq]LB[cp:A]C[Scribe [-\]: e3 less common now immortal [5k\]: clear Asumi [5d?\]: prefers* ] (;B[do]C[Hu [6k\]: Your comment is unfunny, goddontblessyou for it. icebucket [-\]: I like D5 better ^^ partisan [4k\]: the book: break through to shodan" says, play sansan if to attack a 3-5 SlickShot [5k\]: i think she said she likes d5 earlier Asumi [5d?\]: it appeared in Chou-Yoda Normito game derPlumps [3k\]: ranking is important :) partisan [4k\]: sometimes iam really sad then :( ignus [3k\]: ranking is not improtant Ranout: it's about my honour Asumi [5d?\]: W C4 after this Asumi [5d?\]: and BC5 ] ;W[cp] ;B[co] (;W[dp]TR[co][do][cp][dp]C[derPlumps [3k\]: haha yithril [1d\]: e5 SlickShot [5k\]: why d4? MrShintou [-\]: e5 godblessme [7k\]: oh, sorry about that, i truely feel her voice is cutie Shana [5k\]: e5 Uberdude [1d\]: e5 mantelus [1d\]: f5? f4? PrzemekS [1k\]: e5 Javaness [1d\]: F5 derPlumps [3k\]: e5 ? IamNoob [14k\]: D8? kajti [7k\]: f4?? ScarletFox [11k\]: isn't it hane two stones blindly? sushi1 [?\]: d9 shodan2b [11k\]: f4 Mokuma [-\]: e5 Uberdude [1d\]: e5 ouch aaronaaron [9k\]: ohci SlickShot [5k\]: lol Scribe [-\]: Not a good move....e3 is already there....not the time to play at e4 ] (;B[ep]C[quasigoose [-\]: ??? cynewulf [-\]: aiya MrShintou [-\]: hehe derPlumps [3k\]: b wanted w to pass :D Uberdude [1d\]: ;-) aaronaaron [9k\]: [ aaronaaron [9k\]: \] Uberdude [1d\]: aaronaaron, of course, she is pro ] (;W[eo]C[aaronaaron [9k\]: brb ] ;B[fp]C[Scribe [-\]: Double hane powerful against 2, 3 or 4 stones SlickShot [5k\]: not all pros were inseis MrShintou [-\]: she went to go school obviously ] ;W[fq] ;B[gp] ;W[en] ;B[bp] ;W[bq] ;B[cm] ;W[bo] ;B[bn] ;W[ap]C[MrShintou [-\]: insei just means student ] ;B[dm] ;W[gn]C[MrShintou [-\]: i believe. barbapapa [6k\]: please dont talk here :/ clemi [?\]: add more pressure on white group ] (;B[gq]C[xevad [3k\]: not hurting already strong group and white can surround black spectralwt [1k\]: A is good shape godblessme [7k\]: because w is alive already on left buttom corner icebucket [-\]: W is alive. G3 is a wasted move Scribe [-\]: Black must run at j4 with his weaker group ] (;W[dn] ;B[cn] ;W[fl]C[pugh [7k\]: e9 onnenpeli [?\]: why not? petro [1k\]: L4 yithril [1d\]: d10..ish ] (;B[de]C[thoel [?\]: D10 derPlumps [3k\]: d9 Scribe [-\]: d15 is too far derPlumps [3k\]: 9d derPlumps [3k\]: d9 icebucket [-\]: pincer onnenpeli [?\]: d10 yithril [1d\]: c13 kajti [7k\]: c13 Sonni [1k\]: d10 ScarletFox [11k\]: C9 or D10 matt32 [12k\]: d9 Baobei [-\]: pincer d15 J074r0kun6 [2d\]: i like d12 swiatelko [-\]: d12 pugh [7k\]: d13 SlickShot [5k\]: d10 derPlumps [3k\]: pincer the heavier group Bodo212 [8k\]: d 10 xevad [3k\]: I would play C9 petro [1k\]: D11 lemuria [1d\]: further ...i like c11 partisan [4k\]: d12 i would Angrolfin [5k\]: d13 thoel [?\]: D9 icebucket [-\]: D12 lemuria [1d\]: take the point black wants to play Baobei [-\]: d13 ? BornToGo [3k\]: D11 ? smudge [5k\]: only one move! pelister [13k\]: d10 SlickShot [5k\]: d10 agui [4k\]: D9 onnenpeli [?\]: a19 yithril [1d\]: c10? ] (;W[cj]TR[cj][fl]C[kajti [7k\]: c9:? Baobei [-\]: d10 is bad shape derPlumps [3k\]: broken shape MrShintou [-\]: low IamNoob [14k\]: no the lion chase the hunter ] ;B[ek]C[mantelus [1d\]: split Scribe [-\]: c10 is wrong move...shape is bad...white is split ] ;W[el] ;B[dk] ;W[dl] ;B[ck] ;W[cl] ;B[bl] ;W[bj] ;B[bk]C[Scribe [-\]: better to die than live like that ] ;W[cg] (;B[ec] ;W[dd] ;B[ed] ;W[ce]C[icebucket [-\]: inside vs Outside ] ;B[df] ;W[cf] ;B[eh] ;W[eg] ;B[dg] ;W[dh] ;B[ef] ;W[fg] ;B[di] ;W[ch] ;B[fh] ;W[ff] ;B[ee] ;W[gh] ;B[gi] ;W[hh] ;B[hi]C[derPlumps [3k\]: nice shape partisan [4k\]: bah ] ;W[fi] ;B[ei] ;W[fj] ;B[fk] ;W[gj]C[derPlumps [3k\]: game over ] ;B[gk]C[Asumi [5d?\]: hunter becomes rabbit Ranout: yeah 3 weak groups for white, need at least 4 to win :) Baobei [-\]: or rabbit become a bear ] ;W[hj] ;B[ii]LB[gh:3][gj:2][en:1]C[derPlumps [3k\]: do we really want to watch it to the end? Scribe [-\]: White is broken....too many weak groups icebucket [-\]: strengthen your group. Take away your opponent eyes before going for the kill. derPlumps [3k\]: looks like blitz game partisan [4k\]: guojuan.: what about a sansan attack against a 3-5 stone? Bodo212 [8k\]: no thank you Asumi [5d?\]: play urgent moves first, big moves later agui [4k\]: Clear Thanks ! partisan [4k\]: i heard its always ok clemi [?\]: yes clear ] ;W[ij] ;B[gl] ;W[gm] ;B[il] ;W[gd] ;B[gc] ;W[hc] ;B[hd] ;W[he] ;B[id] ;W[fc] ;B[ge] ;W[fd] ;B[fe] ;W[gf] ;B[fb]) (;B[cc]C[aaronaaron [9k\]: wats q Scribe [-\]: e17 is a typical mistake from 20k to 1k ])) (;W[dk]C[derPlumps [3k\]: no one knew this before? Scribe [-\]: d9 is the only move erestor [2k\]: b MrShintou [-\]: I have to go do something and must leave early, but thank you for the lecteur ] ;B[bk]LB[bj:A][cj:B]C[robau [6k\]: i did :)( pugh [7k\]: b e9 c11 thoel [?\]: C10 kajti [7k\]: b10? derPlumps [3k\]: thanks robau Shikasta [4k\]: b swiatelko [-\]: b godblessme [7k\]: B agui [4k\]: B MrShintou [-\]: B pelister [13k\]: b SlickShot [5k\]: a thoel [?\]: B Bodo212 [8k\]: b smudge [5k\]: b robau [6k\]: b onnenpeli [?\]: a looks cool ruger [5k\]: B ] (;W[bj] ;B[cj] ;W[ck] ;B[bi] ;W[bl] ;B[aj] ;W[cl]C[robau [6k\]: ah ;) ] ;B[kp]C[aaronaaron [9k\]: \] quasigoose [-\]: and later ko aji Scribe [-\]: black sacrifices with joy ! Scribe [-\]: drops a heavy load Baobei [-\]: *white ]) (;W[cj]C[derPlumps [3k\]: lol aaronaaron [9k\]: dang spilled my orange j ] ;B[bj] ;W[ci] ;B[bi] ;W[ch] ;B[bh] ;W[cg]C[aaronaaron [9k\]: brb SlickShot [5k\]: lol Scribe [-\]: c10 forces black to suffer on the second line ])) (;W[dj]C[derPlumps [3k\]: split again robau [6k\]: E9? sawasdee [1d?\]: E9 mantelus [1d\]: e9 petro [1k\]: there is a hole Shikasta [4k\]: e9 capricorne [12k\]: too far SunFlowers [8k\]: e9 ] ;B[ek]C[kajti [7k\]: e9 ] ;W[el]C[icebucket [-\]: elephant eye agui [4k\]: E9 matt32 [12k\]: b10 mantelus [1d\]: d9 petro [1k\]: D9 Baobei [-\]: d9 ? thoel [?\]: D9 SunFlowers [8k\]: extend? ] ;B[dk] ;W[dl]C[Scribe [-\]: d10 is wrong move.....e9 punishes white by splitting her mantelus [1d\]: c9 spectralwt [1k\]: attack with keima ] (;B[ck]C[MrShintou [-\]: c8 petro [1k\]: C9 Ranout: strecth and conect over B8 Scribe [-\]: c9 is only move fro Black Saiclops [?\]: thanks for the ladder tip...wonderful ]) (;B[cl] ;W[ck] ;B[cj] ;W[bk] (;B[bj]C[MrShintou [-\]: very neat did not know that ] (;W[ej]C[Scribe [-\]: white destroyes derPlumps [3k\]: take the other hoshi ] ;AB[jj]C[quasigoose [-\]: q16->k10 partisan [4k\]: o nice trick :) mantelus [1d\]: ooh cool Javaness [1d\]: nice SlickShot [5k\]: interesting spectralwt [1k\]: nice Codexus [6k\]: nice tip SunFlowers [8k\]: cool erestor [2k\]: very good ] (;B[fk] ;W[gk] ;B[fj] ;W[fi]C[derPlumps [3k\]: lol ] ;B[gj] ;W[hj] ;B[gi] ;W[gh]C[partisan [4k\]: new to me. wow ] ;B[hi] ;W[ii]C[SlickShot [5k\]: hm ]) (;AE[pd][jj]AB[oc][qd]C[derPlumps [3k\]: :DD mantelus [1d\]: tricky :) Wolf84 [5k\]: but if you read to the end your reading will be eventually better no? :-) MrShintou [-\]: oh Ranout: be carefull to dislocate 3rd line stones! MrShintou [-\]: h11 mantelus [1d\]: l10 and k11? derPlumps [3k\]: doesnt work on 3rd line really MrShintou [-\]: waits j11 * SunFlowers [8k\]: move it around the tengen Javaness [1d\]: just move them to tengen too ScarletFox [11k\]: l10 / j 11? aaronaaron [9k\]: sai does tooo MrShintou [-\]: you put a stone at j11 and l10 Javaness [1d\]: K11 and L10 thoel [?\]: slide on diagonal mantelus [1d\]: ay xevad [3k\]: there we go icebucket [-\]: lol derPlumps [3k\]: p17 could not break the ladder SunFlowers [8k\]: lol ])) (;AB[di])) (;AB[di])))) (;B[dj] ;W[ch] ;B[ei] ;W[jp] ;B[io] ;W[jo] ;B[in]) (;B[cj]C[Scribe [-\]: Black stones need help ]) (;B[ci])) (;W[jp])) (;B[ip]LB[ip:A][gq:B]C[derPlumps [3k\]: sensei.net? Uberdude [1d\]: b not sente on corner icebucket [-\]: plz. focus on lession yithril [1d\]: A affects the g6 stones more robau [6k\]: if white plays at A you have big pressure petro [1k\]: B is not sente xevad [3k\]: B leaves black still weak ScarletFox [11k\]: B is a weaker group Ranout: B not sente towards corner Javaness [1d\]: A is double purpose move Jadeite [14k?\]: get out pugh [7k\]: w plays A if b plays B Ranout: A since you want to run ahead ! Scribe [-\]: g3 only good if white corner is weak...but this white corrner is extremely strong ])) (;W[fp] ;B[eo] ;W[gq]C[icebucket [-\]: professional 5p see info in sensei.net Ranout: strange question to ask a chinese person if she has been student in japan ])) (;B[eo]C[agui [4k\]: E5 aaronaaron [9k\]: nice kame [2k\]: scarletfox, E4 is a different shape from "the head of two stones" SlickShot [5k\]: what if white doesn't play f4 after b e5? Scribe [-\]: Principle...if not necessary dont allow cutting points in your shape Angrolfin [5k\]: what if white plays in left side? yithril [1d\]: make as many as you can ] (;W[fp]C[icebucket [-\]: ... ] ;B[ck]LB[ck:7][co:3][do:1][eo:5][cp:2][dp:4][fp:6]C[shodan2b [11k\]: aww Scribe [-\]: a joseki shodan2b [11k\]: :) derPlumps [3k\]: c9 not far enough? Scribe [-\]: E5 is the move ]) (;AW[nc][jd]AB[pf]C[derPlumps [3k\]: make as many what? yithril [1d\]: cutting points ] ;W[] ;B[lc] ;W[ld]C[yithril [1d\]: in youir opponents shape derPlumps [3k\]: ok Scribe [-\]: Create as many cutting as possible in your opponent's shape ] ;B[kd] (;W[ke] ;B[kc] ;W[md]LB[je:1][le:2] ;B[jc] ;W[id] ;B[hc]) (;W[kc] ;B[ke] ;W[lb] ;AW[dj] ;B[jc] ;W[mc] ;B[id] ;W[je]C[icebucket [-\]: 1) Minimize your own cutting points. 2) Maximaze opponent's cutting pnts ]))) (;B[fo]C[Uberdude [1d\]: e5 Shikasta [4k\]: e5 derPlumps [3k\]: cut? ] ;W[eo] ;B[en]C[yithril [1d\]: weaker shape ] ;W[ep]LB[dn:2][fn:1]C[onnenpeli [?\]: e6 mantelus [1d\]: yes Bodo212 [8k\]: yes Sonni [1k\]: yes mantelus [1d\]: sounds good pelister [13k\]: yes SlickShot [5k\]: yes IamNoob [14k\]: very logicel asrael [4k\]: sure Shikasta [4k\]: yup Walas [2k\]: aye Folamour [2k\]: yes Aret [3k\]: yes derPlumps [3k\]: sounds like taken from a 30 k book agui [4k\]: yes derPlumps [3k\]: very true thoel [?\]: yes, makes sense lupis [3k\]: very clear derPlumps [3k\]: very clear ScarletFox [11k\]: good for me :-) robau [6k\]: yes icebucket [-\]: Yeap. icebucket [-\]: makes good shape. derPlumps [3k\]: but w has an empty triangle :) ]) (;B[ck]TR[co][do][cp][dp]C[Scribe [-\]: head hurts ] ;W[eo]) (;AE[eq]C[Ranout: never apply rules if the circumstances vary partisan [4k\]: so double hane if ladder works? ] (;B[ep] ;W[eq]C[aaronaaron [9k\]: i lovee pros! mantelus [1d\]: f3! petro [1k\]: F3 yithril [1d\]: connect Javaness [1d\]: hane again MrShintou [-\]: E5 ScarletFox [11k\]: double hane aaronaaron [9k\]: b gets wall Uberdude [1d\]: d3! ] (;B[fq]C[agui [4k\]: F3 kame [2k\]: f3 of course clemi [?\]: double hane onnenpeli [?\]: f4? Scribe [-\]: Very Good move aaronaaron [9k\]: lol Scribe [-\]: White cries SlickShot [5k\]: lol Uberdude [1d\]: resign! ] ;W[fp] ;B[eo]C[Javaness [1d\]: poor white ] ;W[gq]C[robau [6k\]: haha this lesson is great! IamNoob [14k\]: d 3 kajti [7k\]: f2 pugh [7k\]: d3 Angrolfin [5k\]: d3 icebucket [-\]: F2 Baobei [-\]: d3 ? aaronaaron [9k\]: d3 matt32 [12k\]: d3 Javaness [1d\]: black should punish white yithril [1d\]: f2 thoel [?\]: exten quasigoose [-\]: f2 partisan [4k\]: f2 aaronaaron [9k\]: decent MrShintou [-\]: F2 ] (;B[fr]C[aaronaaron [9k\]: w gets ponniki smudge [5k\]: never sacrifice one stone when you can sacrifice two! ] (;W[nc] ;B[nd] ;W[md] ;B[oc] ;W[ne] ;B[od] ;W[mg] ;B[mc] ;W[ld]C[Scribe [-\]: Never sacrifice a single stone...it creates eyeshape for the opponent ] (;B[nb]) (;B[] (;W[nb] (;B[mb] ;W[lb] ;B[ob] ;W[lc] ;B[na]LB[lb:1][lc:2]C[Uberdude [1d\]: n18 at m18 ? ]) (;B[lb] ;W[jc] ;B[mb])) (;W[lc] ;B[nb] ;W[lb]C[Scribe [-\]: Adding a second sacrifice stone, gains forcing moves ] ;B[mb]))) (;W[er] ;B[gr] ;W[hq]C[yithril [1d\]: g4 ] ;B[gp] ;W[fo]C[yithril [1d\]: g4 Javaness [1d\]: J3 pelister [13k\]: b4 thoel [?\]: H2 aaronaaron [9k\]: d3 yithril [1d\]: h4 Ranout: H4 onnenpeli [?\]: h4 petro [1k\]: H4 pugh [7k\]: h4 ] ;B[hp]C[agui [4k\]: H4 ] ;W[hr]C[partisan [4k\]: h4 and ladder# ] ;B[fn]C[aaronaaron [9k\]: yesssssssssssssssssssss ])) (;B[dq] ;W[fr] ;B[cq])) (;B[fp] ;W[fq]C[derPlumps [3k\]: hane petro [1k\]: G4 swiatelko [-\]: g4 SlickShot [5k\]: g4? Javaness [1d\]: hane pugh [7k\]: g4 thoel [?\]: nobi onnenpeli [?\]: b4 kajti [7k\]: b4 yithril [1d\]: g4 barbapapa [6k\]: g4 petro [1k\]: ad infinitum derPlumps [3k\]: press to 2nd line ] ;B[gp]C[clemi [?\]: nobi g4 ] ;W[gq]C[derPlumps [3k\]: why not hane icebucket [-\]: keep walking the dog. petro [1k\]: H4 ] ;B[hp]C[aaronaaron [9k\]: nobi? pugh [7k\]: h4 kajti [7k\]: b4 IamNoob [14k\]: h3 kame [2k\]: H4 ])) (;AW[ep]AB[eo]C[icebucket [-\]: yes aaronaaron [9k\]: were u insei guojuan? Uberdude [1d\]: double hane regardless ] (;B[fp] ;W[fq] ;B[gq]) (;AW[fp]AB[fo] ;B[gp] ;W[gq] ;B[hq])))) (;W[bp] ;B[fo]C[partisan [4k\]: f3? spectralwt [1k\]: d3 derPlumps [3k\]: d3? ] (;W[ep] ;B[eo]C[Scribe [-\]: Guo Juan likes to play high positions and attack move ] ;W[bo]C[Scribe [-\]: more ] (;B[cm]) (;B[de]C[partisan [4k\]: ok^ ] ;W[] ;B[gq])) (;W[]C[Ranout: D3 sacrifice to squueze i think ] ;B[dq] ;W[dp] ;B[ep]C[ragkgs [3k\]: is the teacher reading any of these comments? ] (;W[dr] ;B[fq] ;W[er]) (;W[fq] ;B[cq] ;W[bq] ;B[br] ;W[ar]LB[cr:A][bs:B]C[badlooking [4d\]: ko Ranout: this ko xevad [3k\]: ragkgs yes Ranout: hanami ko for black SlickShot [5k\]: a badlooking [4d\]: a pugh [7k\]: B ] (;B[cr] ;W[bs] ;B[cs]C[pinpingho [-\]: b ] ;W[dr]) (;B[bs]C[xevad [3k\]: B better ] ;W[dr] ;B[cr]C[Ranout: yeah if blak wins ko now he has more on the lower side ] ;W[es] ;B[bo]C[SlickShot [5k\]: man, i am lousey SlickShot [5k\]: lousy ] ;W[cs] ;B[ds] ;W[] ;B[er]C[xevad [3k\]: black take first so better for black ]) (;AB[cm] (;B[bs] ;W[dr] ;B[cr] (;W[es] ;B[bo] ;W[cs] ;B[ds] ;W[] ;B[er]) (;W[ds]C[agui [4k\]: E2 erestor [2k\]: e2 ragkgs [3k\]: cut thoel [?\]: E2 lemuria [1d\]: e2 magari [5k\]: E2? thinktwice [?\]: e2 ] ;B[er]C[Angrolfin [5k\]: a3 backpacker [2k\]: e2 SlickShot [5k\]: e2 ] ;W[fr] ;B[bo]C[Ranout: E2 to make approachproblem for white ])) (;B[cr] ;W[bs] ;B[cs] ;W[dr] ;B[as] ;W[] ;B[aq] ;W[er] ;B[bo]C[Ranout: yes each point counts SlickShot [5k\]: aww Ranout: thx guo Asumi [5d?\]: xiexie ragkgs [3k\]: thank you Codexus [6k\]: thanks for the lesson ScarletFox [11k\]: thanks :-) Walas [2k\]: thanks Calyx [2k\]: thx Alenchon [7k\]: thank you Teacher SlickShot [5k\]: thanks for the lesson onnenpeli [?\]: blaah partisan [4k\]: thank you! backpacker [2k\]: thank you James83 [15k\]: thank you agui [4k\]: Thank you very much !! GoPenguin [3k?\]: thank you Baobei [-\]: thx for the lesson kame [2k\]: thank yoU! matt32 [12k\]: thx erestor [2k\]: thank you thoel [?\]: thank you Shikasta [4k\]: great lecture thxs xushibagua [4k\]: xie xie guo laoshi Seeguu [5k\]: thanks ruger [5k\]: thank you Bodo212 [8k\]: thanks - thinktwice [?\]: thank you for the less sawasdee [1d?\]: Thanks Expendable [12k\]: Thank you MarcVaUSA [12k\]: Thanks for making it useful for a 12k like me! lupis [3k\]: thank you for the lecture magari [5k\]: Thanks thinktwice [?\]: *lesson vLuca [7k\]: thankyou guojuan Scribe [-\]: Xiexie Guo Juan Laoshi ives [5k\]: thank you! rCr [5k\]: thank you and enjoy cycling amsterdam Scribe [-\]: Thanks to the Ing Goe Foundation J074r0kun6 [2d\]: thx lemuria [1d\]: thank you very much ! Ranout: take a nice icecream to sweat it off pugh [7k\]: thanks Guojuan kajti [7k\]: thank you very much ])))))) (;B[cp]C[Asumi [5d?\]: Yoda Normito likes 5-3 and 5-4 Asumi [5d?\]: Norimoto* IamNoob [14k\]: c5 will make it funner godblessme [7k\]: her voice is funny ^^ ] ;W[dn] (;B[ep] ;W[dp]C[lupis [3k\]: you see 5-3 a lot on kgs ] ;B[do]C[pasky [7k\]: taisha, mwahaha ] ;W[dq] (;B[co] ;W[eo]C[Folamour [2k\]: taisha ! ] ;B[fp] ;W[cq]C[petro [1k\]: mess guojuan [5p\]: da xie mantelus [1d\]: the joseki with 100 variations :) aaronaaron [9k\]: ow derPlumps [3k\]: +0 Uberdude [1d\]: 100000000 ]) (;B[eo]C[aaronaaron [9k\]: she sounds smart shodan2b [11k\]: she is SlickShot [5k\]: lol ] ;W[co]C[godblessme [7k\]: taisha? ] ;B[cn] ;W[bo] ;B[dm] ;W[gq] ;B[en] ;W[bp] ;B[ce])) (;B[do] ;W[eo] ;B[cn] ;W[dm]C[MrShintou [-\]: awww be nice ] ;B[cm] ;W[dl] ;B[cl] ;W[dk] ;B[cj])) (;B[cq] ;W[do]C[partisan [4k\]: more easy isnt it? ] ;B[co] (;W[cn] ;B[dp] ;W[ep] ;B[bn] ;W[dn]C[derPlumps [3k\]: very low ] ;B[bm] ;W[cr] ;B[br] ;W[bp] ;B[cp] ;W[dr] ;B[bq]C[partisan [4k\]: o ]) (;W[dn] ;B[cn]C[partisan [4k\]: ok ] (;W[cm]C[Scribe [-\]: White hane makes Black difficult ]) (;W[dm]))) (;B[cj] (;W[cp]C[icebucket [-\]: 66 ] ;B[ce]C[partisan [4k\]: nice ]) (;W[ce]C[Ranout: maybe this loses 2 pts Asumi [5d?\]: one more Q? derPlumps [3k\]: if you dont want to play corner joseki, just let the opponent make 4 shimari :) ] (;B[cq] ;W[do]) (;B[co]C[xevad [3k\]: =) ] ;W[cq] ;B[dm]C[SlickShot [5k\]: is that too passive? xevad [3k\]: this is how I play ]) (;B[jc] (;W[cp] ;B[cm]) (;W[cl]C[Asumi [5d?\]: Cho U perefrs D5 after W E3, is it better? ]))))) (;AW[dc][gc][nc][nd][cf][dn][cq]AB[jc][oc][pd][pf][pj][fp][jp][pp]LB[lc:B][je:C][nf:A]TR[jc][nc][nd]C[vLuca [7k\]: hi Scribe [-\]: Opening Questions to begin Xorax [3d\]: kill! Scribe [-\]: Two areas of interest: the left side and the lower right MrShintou [-\]: R3! yithril [1d\]: top right Scribe [-\]: but neither are these are urgent smudge [5k\]: top Folamour [2k\]: upper side agui [4k\]: top side Uberdude [1d\]: o17 group Asumi [5d?\]: W 2 stones Shana [5k\]: top yithril [1d\]: o17 stones Baalza [2k\]: R3 gofanatik [14k?\]: top side Scribe [-\]: The urgent area is the top side IamNoob [14k\]: top center? Scribe [-\]: the two stones are weak derPlumps [3k\]: m17 Folamour [2k\]: k15 ? yithril [1d\]: C gofanatik [14k?\]: c GoPenguin [3k?\]: hi agui [4k\]: C onnenpeli [?\]: c erestor [2k\]: C Shana [5k\]: c Kamisama [4k\]: L15 also ok? derPlumps [3k\]: b Folamour [2k\]: C Sonni [1k\]: c Mysterio [9k\]: c pelister [13k\]: C petro [1k\]: C ruger [5k\]: A thinktwice [?\]: c IamNoob [14k\]: i see c Bodo212 [8k\]: c Plunder [3k\]: C Angrolfin [5k\]: c smudge [5k\]: b looks over-concentrated TotoroShan [1d\]: a MrShintou [-\]: B onnenpeli [?\]: attackkk agui [4k\]: Would L15 be ok ? ] ;B[]C[icebucket [-\]: Ah.. I see. Race to the steak! :) partisan [4k\]: yes Bodo212 [8k\]: yes ] (;W[je]C[kobuz [-\]: C looks like handicap move SlickShot [5k\]: pressure Uberdude [1d\]: what about L16 Scribe [-\]: k15 is the best move, runs faster to center and interferes with Black's running ligo [?\]: cap icebucket [-\]: guojuan[5p\]: Theory is don't run with your enemy together. Uberdude [1d\]: cut around m16 ligo [?\]: get cut petro [1k\]: what about black L15? pugh [7k\]: o18 Batavia [5k\]: black cutting K15 and O16 appart? ] ;B[ke]C[gofanatik [14k?\]: knights move? Scribe [-\]: One item to be careful about when playing a capping move...the contact move on the side of the cap Kamisama [4k\]: L16 quasigoose [-\]: l16 SunFlowers [8k\]: l16 yithril [1d\]: l16 IamNoob [14k\]: L16 Javaness [1d\]: cut pugh [7k\]: m15 ScarletFox [11k\]: l16 kobuz [-\]: windmill ? Mysterio [9k\]: k16 Mysterio [9k\]: l16 ] (;W[kf] ;B[le] ;W[jd] ;B[kc]) (;W[kd]C[partisan [4k\]: this i would have played for sure .( Scribe [-\]: L16 is very strong move ] ;B[jd] ;W[ld]C[smudge [5k\]: close your eyes and cut! ])) (;W[nf] ;B[jf]) (;W[lc] ;B[je] ;W[le] ;B[jg]) (;W[kd]C[Scribe [-\]: White walks ahead ] ;B[jd] ;W[ke] ;B[je] ;W[kf] (;B[ig] ;W[kh] ;B[ii] ;W[kj]TR[ii][kj]C[Nezrif [3k\]: 1 minute per move sounds like alot of time to me ^^ Scribe [-\]: L16 is simpler way to play ]) (;B[jf] ;W[kg] ;B[jg] ;W[kh] ;B[] ;W[jh]))) (;AW[cc][jc][dd][fd][pl][po][ep][qp][eq][pq]AB[oc][bd][qd][cf][dh][dn][qo][cp][dq][iq][lq]LB[mc:A][qi:B][cj:C]C[icebucket [-\]: stake steak same no? ^^ partisan [4k\]: lovely:) SlickShot [5k\]: lol erestor [2k\]: :) kame [2k\]: play go outside partisan [4k\]: same here in berlin Asumi [5d?\]: nice to play Weiqi in the park asrael [4k\]: :) Codexus [6k\]: :D derPlumps [3k\]: guo gets money for sitting at home, we all dont onnenpeli [?\]: yes we are all nerds petro [1k\]: play go in the garden partisan [4k\]: i waited a weak for your lesson, cant go out now ^^ Scribe [-\]: How many kilometers ? Asumi [5d?\]: here weather is wonderful, everything green, and blossoming Uberdude [1d\]: watching people play cricket outside is enough exercise for me :p Kamisama [4k\]: its warm here in eindhoven aswell :) ScarletFox [11k\]: Biking in Amsterdam is great :-) Shana [5k\]: some dont know how to ride a bike... JYPPZ [7k\]: and buy tulips Ranout: H5 barbapapa [6k\]: my guess is g4 agui [4k\]: H5 Folamour [2k\]: c5 ! for w Javaness [1d\]: F5 Mokuma [-\]: H4 Scribe [-\]: Lower left is the urgent area yithril [1d\]: c5? Shikasta [4k\]: h4 agui [4k\]: H5 erestor [2k\]: H5 SlickShot [5k\]: h4 petro [1k\]: H5 Codexus [6k\]: h4 Javaness [1d\]: oh it's white derPlumps [3k\]: B MrShintou [-\]: H4 quasigoose [-\]: h4 yithril [1d\]: f6 Kamisama [4k\]: H5 Scribe [-\]: How should White play in the lower left ? pasky [7k\]: g6 Angrolfin [5k\]: f6 Mysterio [9k\]: c Sonni [1k\]: h4 Bodo212 [8k\]: h4 Ranout: H4 is good lazy blitz :) TotoroShan [1d\]: ok pasky [7k\]: and g6? ;-) IamNoob [14k\]: we love hats ] ;B[]C[quasigoose [-\]: B is strong on bottom so ok to make him strong SlickShot [5k\]: before you had j5 for black ] (;W[hp]C[icebucket [-\]: we are young and stupid. So we brave it! J6 and hope for the best. shodan2b [11k\]: lol Scribe [-\]: H5 is not good here, White will lose shape ] ;B[ip] ;W[ho] ;B[io] ;W[hn] ;B[jm] ;W[hl]) (;W[gq]C[Scribe [-\]: White H4 lets White walk ahead ] ;B[fn] ;W[go] ;B[hm]C[Scribe [-\]: White g3 is too slow ]) (;W[en]C[Scribe [-\]: E6 is worst move ] ;B[dm] ;W[em] ;B[el]C[Ranout: spoil C5 aji ]) (;W[ho]C[icebucket [-\]: fighting is necessary :) Making order out of Chaos is art. ] ;B[io]C[Scribe [-\]: E6 helps Black build left side and Black walks ahead barbapapa [6k\]: h6 pugh [7k\]: h6 MrShintou [-\]: j6 SlickShot [5k\]: h4 agui [4k\]: H4 icebucket [-\]: J6 Sajko [13k?\]: H6 sushi1 [?\]: f6 petro [1k\]: J6 yithril [1d\]: j6 smudge [5k\]: h6. walk ahead onnenpeli [?\]: h6 SlickShot [5k\]: lol Javaness [1d\]: fight like a squirrel IamNoob [14k\]: mass = fun! mantelus [1d\]: ;-) mantelus [1d\]: mess is good ] (;W[in]C[TotoroShan [1d\]: h4 IamNoob [14k\]: h4 sushi1 [?\]: f6 pelister [13k\]: h4 ] ;B[hn]C[petro [1k\]: J4 ] ;W[go] ;B[jo]) (;W[hn] ;B[hp] ;W[fo] ;B[gp] ;W[fm] ;B[dl]))))